laurarichardson said:

Prince is not light enough to be mixed? That's some truly stupid shit. I know some Italians who are darker than Prince. I know biracial people who are a LOT darker than Prince.

Rhondab said:

Prince is mixed either way.

Yeah, Prince could be considered mixed, he is light enough. And Rhonda, is your mailman white?

ChristopherTracyParade said:

I get the joke...and

that's so unfunny....

My chile would beat ya ass talkin' bout her momma like that....

Repoman said:

here we go with this crap AGAIN...

Rhondab said:

Just some SHOCK treatment for ya!

Rhondab said:

Are you trying to say that he's not mixed?

RepoMan said:

I didn't say anything....


Just that folks hate to call prince or any lighter skinned person black...


funny how things change.

Rhondab said:

Why call them something which they are not? If you're mixed, but have more black features that doesn't mean you are black.

RepoMan said:

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He is not mixed. Both his parents are black. If you check the gallery I think they have a picture of his birth certificate.

In the good old USA if you look black you are black.

RepoMan said:

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The only thing stupid is the idea that evey light skinned black person is half white. If both your parents are black you are black. It does not matter if your great grand parent was white. Why can't black people just be happy with who they are.

laurarichardson said:

Who's talking about half? Who's talking about white? I'm talking about MIXED.



Now THAT is some ignorant shit.

Prince's race is being discussed again? In this thread? Y'all too funny. It's been what 28 years and people still asking the same question. There's some question that his mom's dad was Cherokee, outside of that he's black, his words not mine.

Everyone KNOWS that Prince is one color and but one ONLy color...and that color is ...
















Paisley.

We interrupt this discussion to announce that Prince has never, is not now nor he is likely to ever record a song called Malcom X-Mess.

Carry on.

thesexofit said:

If Prince were white do U think Warners would have given him a hard time with promotion? Look at the BS Madonna was releasing! Look at the BS she's releasing now. Compare Madonna's work 2 Prince's work. Even in the '90s Prince kicked her ass with half ass releases but Madonna is their golden child and that brawd is so weak now that it doesn't make any cents. Prince influenced the 80's R&B and what the hell did Madonna do?

BEAUGARDE said:

She sold a whole fucking lot of albums. That's what she did. Some people just don't seem to understand that what record companies are interested in first and foremost is making money.

The second thing which I would like to point out is that Prince was never mistreated by WB in any way. He had the best deal in the industry.

laurarichardson said:

Awesome. That must mean I'm white.


Three cheers for fucked up American logic!

Rhondab said:

I honestly never once gave a thought to what race Prince might be before I came to the Org, since you can't always tell just by looking at someone and it really doesn't matter anyway. Imagine my surprise when I came across debates like these: "He's black!" "He's mixed!" "He's Filipino!""No, Goddammit! He's a Hobbit!"


Prince fans make me laugh.

OH

GAT

DAYUM!!!



Muthafuckas kill me wanting to claim P b/c he's talented, beautiful & gifted. Well guess what mutha muthas? He's a talented, beautiful, gifted BLACK man Deal with it

LAWD!! Rhonda, help!!

meow85 said:

RepoMan said:

I second the first, people need to realise that record companies want to make loads of money.

Not so sure about the latter. He may have had the biggest deal but that doesn't mean he was treated well.

And perhabs Madonna never bitched against WB about not owning her masters AFTER she signed the deal. That will guarantee you a conflict and no promotion of your already rather weak albums.


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Abrazo said:

The thing is that when Prince signed that contract he had been in the music business for more than a decade. He knew exactly what the deal was. Prince wasn't mistreated.

Abrazo said:

Basing your self image on how others perceive you is a dumbass thing to do.

NouveauDance said:

It garnered Oscar nominations. I am sure you are in a very small minority if you are referring to the Spike Lee film starring Denzel Washington. That film was excellent and I was proud of Prince for putting up money to back it.

RepoMan said:

Selling albums doesnt mean shit. Brittany Spears sold alot of albums and she makes shit. In fact, Madonna sold alot of albums under the same pretense that Spears does: blonde white woman who take on a slut image to get on the charts

laurarichardson said:

I’m sure he coulda called and asked?



Is there something to be inferred by the “it’s a movie” comment by you and Aftershock?
Does the “it’s a movie” apply to Malcom X to? It is a “movie”, a movie which inaccurately depicted a factious character essentially playing the role of Malcolm’s brother. If someone didn’t read the biography it’s a good chance they would believe the narrative of the movie.
Isn’t a reasonable possibility that someone who didn’t know Prince’s mother (Mattie) was a Black woman might think she was a white woman ala Olga Karlatos, and thus infer he was mixed? Did Prince have control over who was cast or not?



Then why so much discussion over his race? Then why is there hundreds of topics on his background here, and this is supposedly from Prince fans.

PleasurePrinciple said:

Why don’t many people know he his BLACK. Why these lyrics?

I just can't believe all the things people say
Am I black or white? Am I straight or gay?

Who are all these people saying these unbelievable things? It seems Prince has heard about this controversy and not you.



He didn’t dwell on the fact his ass was Black. Which is only something he could pull off because he is so light skinned. He tried everything to present an inter-racial theme to his music, visually aswell. Prince helped commercially integrate music, not by being a black man playing music, but by being mixed in every way.





for sure, and what works on his fellow Black race has he delivered with as much fervor and quality as his intergrationist themes, or religious for that matter? I love Dear Mr Man and SOTT, I don't mind when he get's political, but racially and politically Prince is a lightweight.

RepoMan said:

I guess that was kinda my point, she sold more records b'cuz of better promotion from Warners not b'cuz her music is better

RepoMan said:

Maybe not in terms of the contract itself (tho' you don't know for sure whether WB kept its part of the bargain) but maybe yes in terms of treating him with respect and without being racist. I don't know that for sure, but neither do we know for sure that he was treated well in all respects as you seem to claim.

meow85 said:

OdysseyMiles said:

Keep in mind that Spike had a lot of people against him and still pulled it off about as well as anyone else could have. From what I understand, the Nation of Islam told him straight up to be careful of what he says about Elijah Muhammad and the theories surrounding Malcolm's assassination. Tons of people did NOT want that movie made at all. Choosing Denzel (due to his darker complexion) as the lead was also debated heavily.

I could have done without the whole "I am Malcolm X." ending, but it didn't taint my view of the film overall.

My point is, Spike did succeed in changing the public's perception of Malcolm X. with the film. I'm sure it got people to read the autobiography and other books written on him and at least see him in a different light. Most people have a lot of misguided perceptions about him.