co-sign Stymie and this is the reason I want you a few others to be my baby's mama. I try to keep my ass out of this forum but it made my evening to see someone else say this.
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: because i know ya'll will be showing up to this thread soon enough:
...and co-sign on what stymie said. carry on. I can't see the image... but I'm hoping it's the "Fronter's Unite" | |
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you know what? i said it before and i'm sure i'll say it again, and i KNOW this is a very subjective, personal thing for me to say, but:
last year delivered every expectation i've ever had from being a prince fan. if i could go back in time and talk to me at 14 years old and tell myself what would be happening to me in the year 2004, young me would probably have a heart attack and die, so thank goodness there's no such thing as time travel. and i'm not just talking about the "close encounters" or the amazing concert experiences - i'm talking about the entire sense of community and feeling like there's something very intimate and genuine that prince and his camp helps foster in his fanbase. last summer was amazingly gratifying to me, and it paid for any frustration or alienation i might have ever felt toward the man in over 20 years of following him and buying his music and making sure to have a blank tape in the VCR whenever his crazy ass came on the television. after last year, really - honestly - everything's gonna be gravy. and i'll gladly sop it all up with a biscuit whenever it arrives. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: HiinEnkelte said: shit, go back and listen to big tall wall and shut up!
That's a bootleg and it is a sin to tell someone to feast their ears on unreleased music then why did you send them to me in a box called "imports" and corrupt a naive newbie like myself? Welcome to the New World Odor and
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Stymie said: Why doesn't he get to be human?
Because he's an android WRONG! He's an alien. Or a hobbit. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Stymie said: ...Why is it that when he talked about getting free from WB and he did, that we now want to hold him down and give us all the music we want? Damn. ...
His goal in getting free from WB to be able to release as more music more often, no? He welcomed the internet because it would allow him to pump music out as often as he wanted to, without even any manufacturing delays. And of course he's always talked about how he's constantly writing and recording new music...I guess the upshot is, a lot of us got spoiled by the pace of his output for so many years, now we're suffering withdrawls. "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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TheRealFiness said: Can Stymie get an amen and Right on from the congregation?....
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Moonwalkbjrain said: Stymie said: I hear ya, baby.
The internet has not changed the way I feel about Prince's music. I just waited for it. I get kinda frustrated sometimes reading some of the posts in this forum. Folx bitch and moan when he's not doing anything and then when he brings something out, maybe quite possibly to shut folx up, people bitch and moan about it. In the last three years, he's lost at least three people very close to him on top of having everyday problems that most of us go through. I don't want to know every aspect of his life cuz my life's really fucked up and I don't want you guys knowing about certain shit. I guess I kinda feel the guy doesn't owe us a damn thing. well if u think about it prince DOES owe us a bit. w/o us fans prince wouldnt have all the fame and fortune. he wouldnt live in a nice house, drive a fancy car or rock all them nice custome made clothes. | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: Stymie said: Many of you know that I do not post to this forum anymore. It mainly has to do with the fact that people like to add multiple accounts and come over and ask stupid assed questions (IMO), dis the man they claim to dig more than any other artist, trash his personal life and speculate about every little detail.
Why do we expect so much from him? Seriously, over the years he has lost so many people that were close to him. Any normal person would not be the same and would mourn but for us Prince fans, it's hurry up and do what the hell we want you to. Why doesn't he get to be human? Why is it that when he talked about getting free from WB and he did, that we now want to hold him down and give us all the music we want? Damn. For the longest time Prince has done what the fuck Prince wants to do. I, for one, am glad that that will continue to be the case. well wasnt the whole point of that to be able to release all the music he wants? | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Moonwalkbjrain said: well if u think about it prince DOES owe us a bit. w/o us fans prince wouldnt have all the fame and fortune. he wouldnt live in a nice house, drive a fancy car or rock all them nice custome made clothes.
if you think about it, he has paid us back...and rather handsomely, for the most part. he don't owe us jackshit. | |
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pkidwell said: i guess it's not that bad here because you came back.....and all you really have to do is stay away from the negative threads.....P doesn't give a rat's ass about those people anyways and either do a lot of us My opinion is that for the most part, this forum is terrible. This is probably only the second time this year I've even clicked on this forum. I stay completely the hell away from the Associated Artists forum for fear of the bash Larry and Mani threads.
I do agree that Prince doesn't give a rat's ass but believe me, someone in the camp is reading this stuff. Just like on the Quake and Princefams. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: this right here:
SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: [...]If Prince stopped recording altogether starting today, we will have been blessed beyond what many other fans could ever hope and wish for.[...]
...should be more n'well enough for ya'll to fathom. like i'd mentioned a few posts up, he doesn't owe us jackshit. why? i'll tell ya why: the brotha's cranked out an obscene amount of stuff within the past 27+ years he's been on wax. an absolutely obscene amount--if his albums, their respective singles, outtakes and the like were moon pies, we'd have all been dead of sugar shock and overworked digestive systems by now. he's spoiled us to death, but yet n'still some of you act as if either it ain't enough or that it ain't simply good enough for ya'll and i don't see exactly why that is. to me, the brotha's "paid" me back more than enough and then some...and even then, i still got shit left over that i can either take, leave, or simply give away and share with other folks. those of you who seriously believe that prince owes you something, the term you never miss the water till the well runs dry is gonna hit you HARD sooner or later. "don't get my blood pressure up!" edit [Edited 11/3/05 12:34pm] | |
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Moonwalkbjrain said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: if you think about it, he has paid us back...and rather handsomely, for the most part. he don't owe us jackshit. how about respect? when i read the "he dont owe us anything" stuff i couldnt help but think about housequake and the fan with the camera. he doesnt owe us more music, this much is true. if he stopped recording today i'd be a happy camper - but he DOES owe us respect, we - especially yall older fans - put him where he is As far as respect: yeah, he owes some of us respect but what do you do when the people who cliam most to love you dis you, your family, your friends on a public website, steal your music and bootleg it, bitch and moan about the lack of output but, upon getting that output, bitch and moan about it? Respect for us? Respect him. [Edited 11/4/05 10:02am] | |
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psykosoul said: co-sign Stymie and this is the reason I want you a few others to be my baby's mama. I try to keep my ass out of this forum but it made my evening to see someone else say this.
NuPwrSoul said it best "Yall are Prince fans... not stockholders"... I miss Nu's ass over here. | |
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Stymie said: pkidwell said: i guess it's not that bad here because you came back.....and all you really have to do is stay away from the negative threads.....P doesn't give a rat's ass about those people anyways and either do a lot of us My opinion is that for the most part, this forum is terrible. This is probably only the second time this year I've even clicked on this forum. I stay completely the hell away from the Associated Artists forum for fear of the bash Larry and Mani threads.
I do agree that Prince doesn't give a rat's ass but believe me, someone in the camp is reading this stuff. Just like on the Quake and Princefams. you know what, i love you dearly but i'm going to have to disagree with you. this forum was MUCH WORSE in previous years than it has been over the past year and a half. i'm not going to say that when ben brought in me and the others in the "mod squad" that we were able to wave a magic wand and make the org all things to all people. but speaking for myself, i've taken a lot of care to make people think about the things they post. i've deleted a LOT of nonsense from this forum over the past couple of years, and i've challenged a lot of people on the same tired ol' "larry is evil", "prince's new music sucks", "mani is a stalker" kind of crap and hopefully helped some people see things from a different perspective. all of this, PLUS i have to say we've done a great job of respecting the wishes of prince's camp by keeping file-sharing and bootleg trading out of the threads on this forum. i know people who have left the site because i won't let them trash and slander prince they way they'd like. and of course, there are people like you who think that i'm probably TOO lenient with what i allow people to say on this forum. i've made peace with the fact that as a mod, i will NEVER please everyone. all i can do is be confident of my own standards, carry out what i think are the best decisions, and if i make a mistake, hopefully learn from it and move on. i don't think this forum is terrible. it is what it is. i'm sorry you disagree. | |
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CandaceS said: Stymie said: ...Why is it that when he talked about getting free from WB and he did, that we now want to hold him down and give us all the music we want? Damn. ...
His goal in getting free from WB to be able to release as more music more often, no? He welcomed the internet because it would allow him to pump music out as often as he wanted to, without even any manufacturing delays. And of course he's always talked about how he's constantly writing and recording new music...I guess the upshot is, a lot of us got spoiled by the pace of his output for so many years, now we're suffering withdrawls. I don't go through withdrawal like other Prince fans do so I guess I just don't understand it. Before the internet and since, I just wait. In the meantime, I listen to his other stuff and discover something I didn't hear before. He never bores me. | |
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Stymie said: pkidwell said: i guess it's not that bad here because you came back.....and all you really have to do is stay away from the negative threads.....P doesn't give a rat's ass about those people anyways and either do a lot of us My opinion is that for the most part, this forum is terrible. This is probably only the second time this year I've even clicked on this forum. I stay completely the hell away from the Associated Artists forum for fear of the bash Larry and Mani threads.
I do agree that Prince doesn't give a rat's ass but believe me, someone in the camp is reading this stuff. Just like on the Quake and Princefams. What's the camp? | |
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luv4all7 said: Stymie said: My opinion is that for the most part, this forum is terrible. This is probably only the second time this year I've even clicked on this forum. I stay completely the hell away from the Associated Artists forum for fear of the bash Larry and Mani threads.
I do agree that Prince doesn't give a rat's ass but believe me, someone in the camp is reading this stuff. Just like on the Quake and Princefams. What's the camp? | |
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HiinEnkelte said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: That's a bootleg and it is a sin to tell someone to feast their ears on unreleased music then why did you send them to me in a box called "imports" and corrupt a naive newbie like myself? Because I'm a sinner 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Stymie said: luv4all7 said: [/b]
What's the camp? Seriously | |
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luv4all7 said: Stymie said: Seriously the purple mafia, the paisley posse, the NPGFBI... | |
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Anxiety said: luv4all7 said: Seriously the purple mafia, the paisley posse, the NPGFBI... Lmao, remember the "Naysayers" These are da Nays o' wild hit me | |
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TheRealFiness said: Anxiety said: the purple mafia, the paisley posse, the NPGFBI... Lmao, remember the "Naysayers" These are da Nays o' wild hit me i'm pissed i never got my toast. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: this right here:
SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: [...]If Prince stopped recording altogether starting today, we will have been blessed beyond what many other fans could ever hope and wish for.[...]
...should be more n'well enough for ya'll to fathom. like i'd mentioned a few posts up, he doesn't owe us jackshit. why? i'll tell ya why: the brotha's cranked out an obscene amount of stuff within the past 27+ years he's been on wax. an absolutely obscene amount--if his albums, their respective singles, outtakes and the like were moon pies, we'd have all been dead of sugar shock and overworked digestive systems by now. he's spoiled us to death, but yet n'still some of you act as if either it ain't enough or that it ain't simply good enough for ya'll and i don't see exactly why that is. to me, the brotha's "paid" me back more than enough and then some...and even then, i still got shit left over that i can either take, leave, or simply give away and share with other folks. those of you who seriously believe that prince owes you something, the term you never miss the water till the well runs dry is gonna hit you HARD sooner or later. "don't get my blood pressure up!" edit [Edited 11/3/05 12:34pm] Preach it sista Preach!!!!! I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Stymie said: My opinion is that for the most part, this forum is terrible. This is probably only the second time this year I've even clicked on this forum. I stay completely the hell away from the Associated Artists forum for fear of the bash Larry and Mani threads.
If you've only visited this forum twice in 10 months or so, and perhaps never visit the other forums, how can you have any perspective on what people are saying here? Not every thread and post trashes Prince, his work, or others around him. There's a wide middle ground between sycophantic fawning and simply trashing. I think the vast majority of comments here fall in that middle ground. ...but believe me, someone in the camp is reading this stuff. Just like on the Quake and Princefams.
What difference does it make if they are? Am I supposed to be worried about something? We're just discussing things; folks are entitled to their opinions. It's a safe bet even the ones who seem very critical will immediately buy anything Prince releases. "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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Anxiety said: Stymie said: My opinion is that for the most part, this forum is terrible. This is probably only the second time this year I've even clicked on this forum. I stay completely the hell away from the Associated Artists forum for fear of the bash Larry and Mani threads.
I do agree that Prince doesn't give a rat's ass but believe me, someone in the camp is reading this stuff. Just like on the Quake and Princefams. you know what, i love you dearly but i'm going to have to disagree with you. this forum was MUCH WORSE in previous years than it has been over the past year and a half. i'm not going to say that when ben brought in me and the others in the "mod squad" that we were able to wave a magic wand and make the org all things to all people. but speaking for myself, i've taken a lot of care to make people think about the things they post. i've deleted a LOT of nonsense from this forum over the past couple of years, and i've challenged a lot of people on the same tired ol' "larry is evil", "prince's new music sucks", "mani is a stalker" kind of crap and hopefully helped some people see things from a different perspective. all of this, PLUS i have to say we've done a great job of respecting the wishes of prince's camp by keeping file-sharing and bootleg trading out of the threads on this forum. i know people who have left the site because i won't let them trash and slander prince they way they'd like. and of course, there are people like you who think that i'm probably TOO lenient with what i allow people to say on this forum. i've made peace with the fact that as a mod, i will NEVER please everyone. all i can do is be confident of my own standards, carry out what i think are the best decisions, and if i make a mistake, hopefully learn from it and move on. i don't think this forum is terrible. it is what it is. i'm sorry you disagree. There's good stuff here. You just have to check in often enough. Of course you don't have to open any threads that you know will end up offending you somehow... (As you see in Candace's sig, I've done that a time or two. ) I wish you could have seen my papers about Prince's spiritual utopias, and Camille, as well as that great thread about Prince's musical stylings. I should have printed and saved that one!! | |
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Heiress said: ... Of course you don't have to open any threads that you know will end up offending you somehow... (As you see in Candace's sig, I've done that a time or two. ) ...
?? "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 | |
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Stymie said: Moonwalkbjrain said: well wasnt the whole point of that to be able to release all the music he wants? umm well actually, i DID sorta just meet his ass today - not today, but i aint as long time as u might think , i get ur point tho, its just it seems like such a slice of bulls shit to know that he said i'm fighting for artistic freedom - to release what i want when i want, and now he's doin a bit of the opposit Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Stymie said: Moonwalkbjrain said: how about respect? when i read the "he dont owe us anything" stuff i couldnt help but think about housequake and the fan with the camera. he doesnt owe us more music, this much is true. if he stopped recording today i'd be a happy camper - but he DOES owe us respect, we - especially yall older fans - put him where he is As far as respect: yeah, he owes some of us respect but what do you do when the people who cliam most to love you dis you, your family, your friends on a public website, steal your music and bootleg it, bitch and moan about the lack of output but, upon getting that output, bitch and moan about it? Respect for us? Respect him. [Edited 11/4/05 10:02am] people are aloud opinions, if i dont like something what am i supposed to do keep my mouth shut? prince has put himself in the public eye - and while some things that are said i find pretty fucked up people are aloud to have opinions about him. that doesnt mean they dont respect him. i think my friends can be little bitches at times. doesnt mean i dont love or respect them, just means i think they can be bitches at times. i think prince should respect us cuz we put him where he is. he doesnt have to give us 10million songs, he doesnt have to kiss our assess, he doesnt have to be our friend, but he should respect us, cuz without us - especially the older fans, where would he be? what would he have? Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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