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Reply #60 posted 08/15/05 3:37am

Novabreaker

I meant 1978.

Fuck, what's in a year or two, let's say 1976.
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Reply #61 posted 08/15/05 7:10am

doeineffect

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HamsterHuey said:

Anxiety said:



one of my fave prince lyrics is still...


'when i'm workin' at my jobba
i'm the victim, yer the robba..'


giggle


You know, somehow Prince will never be known as an amazing poet. LoL He might worship Joni Mitchell, but the bug never caught.
Still, Mr Nelson's lyrics are all about the music. They have to fit, even if it has him singing he is a dog and you are a cat.



You have GOT to be joking!!!!!
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Reply #62 posted 08/15/05 7:43am

xpsiter

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Snap said:

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When folks were saying he wasn't black, and he didn't bother correcting them.


people define color differently
when wasn't Prince Black?
even so-called "white" albums like ATWIAD & Parade
are full of funky moments
and don't forget...
Prince's roots are in MPLS
how black is that?
we're all mostly a product of our influences
no need to correct the fools who'd say such things
the music has always spoken for itself
and if we're gonna be proud of anything
let it be because of what we do
and not because of our physical hue
[Edited 8/13/05 14:04pm]


Oh, SNAP! Preach! cool
I am MrVictor....
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Reply #63 posted 08/15/05 3:03pm

HamsterHuey

doeineffect said:

HamsterHuey said:

somehow Prince will never be known as an amazing poet.


You have GOT to be joking!!!!!


He has written lots of lyrics that appeal to me, but lyrics like "Lalala hehehee, I want u, u want me" just do not go down well with people that are used to the consistent high quality lyrics of peeps like Joni Mitchell.
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Reply #64 posted 08/15/05 7:13pm

weepingwall

prince is not a poet..
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Reply #65 posted 08/16/05 12:07am

HamsterHuey

weepingwall said:

prince is not a poet..


But he has had many a moment...
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Reply #66 posted 08/16/05 1:06am

Moonwalkbjrain

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weepingwall said:

prince is not a poet..


...cuz he dont wanna blow it!
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #67 posted 08/16/05 1:06am

weepingwall

Moonwalkbjrain said:

weepingwall said:

prince is not a poet..


...cuz he dont wanna blow it!




preach on..
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Reply #68 posted 08/16/05 1:23am

Moonwalkbjrain

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weepingwall said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:



...cuz he dont wanna blow it!




preach on..


..he dont care to win awards!
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #69 posted 08/16/05 1:36am

weepingwall

Moonwalkbjrain said:

weepingwall said:





preach on..


..he dont care to win awards!



no becuase he's a good musican

but not really a good lyricrist and or poet.. he has wrote good songs
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Reply #70 posted 08/16/05 2:50am

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4 fuck sake...y'all R trippin'...Music is about making money as well as getting all gooey eyed and spiritual u know...damn...I say if it sells ...do it, Prince could do an ad 4 Snapple and it'd still be funky


this is the bizniz...and u aint 2 far gone 2 see that shit yet

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Reply #71 posted 08/16/05 4:28am

Moonwalkbjrain

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weepingwall said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:



..he dont care to win awards!



no becuase he's a good musican

but not really a good lyricrist and or poet.. he has wrote good songs


wink u had me til ya said that


clear edit
[Edited 8/16/05 4:32am]
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #72 posted 08/16/05 6:13am

doeineffect

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HamsterHuey said:

doeineffect said:



You have GOT to be joking!!!!!


He has written lots of lyrics that appeal to me, but lyrics like "Lalala hehehee, I want u, u want me" just do not go down well with people that are used to the consistent high quality lyrics of peeps like Joni Mitchell.


He used those lyrics on a dare from Sheena Easton who didn't think he could do a song with those words. The fact that he made a great song out of that shows his lyrical genius.
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Reply #73 posted 08/16/05 6:49am

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cool Signing with Arista putting out Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic. Doing TRL that just looked desparate.
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Reply #74 posted 08/16/05 2:58pm

HamsterHuey

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

getting all gooey eyed


batting eyes
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Reply #75 posted 08/17/05 3:53am

meow85

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GangstaFam said:

Anxiety said:

but it was still very colorful and fun, and most of it was considered to be too "out there" even for TIM friggin' BURTON to put in the movie. i can see how some folks would see it as selling out, since prince is making music to conform to a WB franchise, but i kinda see it as a challenge, as he'd never really written a whole album of music for someone else's project before this, and the idea of the soundtrack being a kind of "narrative", with songs sung by characters from the film (and "gemini", of course), was a pretty inventive touch as well, i think.

no, it's not intended to be the lofty personal message that was "lovesexy" or the musical statement that was "sign 'o' the times", but it wasn't meant to be. though i do think that there's still plenty in the batman album that addresses the whole "dual identity" gemini issue that he'd been toying around with for years, so there's that to think about, too. shrug

What he said. I love the Batman album.

woot! Batman!

The album can definitely be considered a sell-out moment, but selling out doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing if the artist's heart goes into it as well as the desire for money. Prince clearly had fun working on the soundtrack, and that can be just as important as some of the grand proclamations and statements that appear on other albums he's done.

But Arms of Orion's still crap. ill Dude should've reconsidered that one.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #76 posted 08/17/05 3:58am

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i like the batman album, arms of orion isnt very good though, no1 in england though(album, not arms of orion (obviusly!!))
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Reply #77 posted 08/17/05 10:18am

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why is it considered selling out when you market your name and profit from it? i mean, you are in the "industry", you deserve the financial gain associated with your name IMO.
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Reply #78 posted 08/20/05 3:10am

meow85

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txladykat said:

why is it considered selling out when you market your name and profit from it? i mean, you are in the "industry", you deserve the financial gain associated with your name IMO.

Because in a perfect world art is made for art's sake and not for money. Unfortunately, given the way the industry works, in order to be a commercial success an artist has to pimp their name and image and make a fair chunk of money off of it to get any attention.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #79 posted 08/20/05 3:54am

Moonwalkbjrain

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meow85 said:

txladykat said:

why is it considered selling out when you market your name and profit from it? i mean, you are in the "industry", you deserve the financial gain associated with your name IMO.

Because in a perfect world art is made for art's sake and not for money. Unfortunately, given the way the industry works, in order to be a commercial success an artist has to pimp their name and image and make a fair chunk of money off of it to get any attention.


dude ur missing the point. yes in a PERFECT world art is made for arts sake. and in a PERFECT world money grows on trees and the streets are paved in gold. who the hell wants to be a starving artist???
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #80 posted 08/20/05 4:20am

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

meow85 said:


Because in a perfect world art is made for art's sake and not for money. Unfortunately, given the way the industry works, in order to be a commercial success an artist has to pimp their name and image and make a fair chunk of money off of it to get any attention.


dude ur missing the point. yes in a PERFECT world art is made for arts sake. and in a PERFECT world money grows on trees and the streets are paved in gold. who the hell wants to be a starving artist???

Not missing the point, and not a dude.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #81 posted 08/20/05 9:02am

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"Sell-out" is the dumbust fucking term ever. It was made up by someone who never received an opportunity to capitalize on any level of success. If selling out makes you millions of dollars. PLEASE...give me the chance to sell-out. Im broke as hell.
(Insert something clever here)
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Reply #82 posted 08/20/05 4:03pm

DiamondGirl

He sold out with Prince self titled. He then did it again with 1999 and Purple Rain.
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Reply #83 posted 08/20/05 11:09pm

Moonwalkbjrain

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DarkKnight1 said:

"Sell-out" is the dumbust fucking term ever. It was made up by someone who never received an opportunity to capitalize on any level of success. If selling out makes you millions of dollars. PLEASE...give me the chance to sell-out. Im broke as hell.


for real! i'll be a sell out right along with u!
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #84 posted 08/20/05 11:25pm

ThreadBare

M'boy said it all in that interview in France for the UTCM shoot: "You see these cufflinks? They cost money..."
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Reply #85 posted 10/10/05 10:13am

CreamyThighs

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i think he sold out three times in philly

lol
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Reply #86 posted 10/10/05 12:56pm

RodeoSchro

I don't know if this is a true sell-out, but he sure took a turn in a boring direction when he got all caught up in the fashion world. "The Versace Experience"?!?

Please...
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Reply #87 posted 10/10/05 12:59pm

VanitySixx

jbell said:

When folks were saying he wasn't black, and he didn't bother correcting them.


I was going to say ANY Prince song with rap on it wether it's Prince, Tony M, Sheila E whoever but, the above quote is a great example as well.

Also, I LOVE Lemon Crush! It's one of my favorites. biggrin
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Reply #88 posted 10/10/05 1:26pm

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LadyB0yCabDriver said:

4 fuck sake...y'all R trippin'...Music is about making money as well as getting all gooey eyed and spiritual u know...damn...I say if it sells ...do it, Prince could do an ad 4 Snapple and it'd still be funky


this is the bizniz...and u aint 2 far gone 2 see that shit yet



lol lol lol
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