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if teenagers can't open their mind (who are into jessica simpson and all that bubble gum crap) then they are truly missing out. |
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loisclark88 said: I'm 17. Been a fan since I was 6 or so, but really got into him last year and started buying all of his albums. All of my friends don't like him and say, "You like that gay fag?"
 I don't get it. Prince is amazing.  Okay, isn't it redundant to say "gay fag"? Dumbasses. Kids suck. They don't know what to listen to. Sit them down, shut them up, and have them listen from For You to Black Album and teach their asses something.  Who's gonna stop 200 Balloons?
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Prince really isn't a video star & he's not seen enough. Had he spent more time supporting & promoting his albums he would have more exposure. Most of his videos R of him performing a song and not doing the latest dances, fighting gangs and werewolves or in some outer space or underwater adventure.  |
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BEAUGARDE said: Prince really isn't a video star & he's not seen enough. Had he spent more time supporting & promoting his albums he would have more exposure. Most of his videos R of him performing a song and not doing the latest dances, fighting gangs and werewolves or in some outer space or underwater adventure.
Not seen enough????? Prince in the last 10 years has been on the tonight show several times, today alot of times, tons of european shows, vh1 specials, the view, mtv shows (trl), muppet show, ellen, oprah, letterman, vibe, B.E.T, (theres more). But when it comes right down to it prince wants his music to speak for him. |
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renfield said: wasitgood4u said: Some people like to recreate history after their own image! It's sad to see Prince fans, who might once have been out there, sitting around like old fogies saying: "remember when.." and "kids these days..." and "that's not music, that's just noise...", "back in my day..."
I lived through the 80s. I was into Prince coz he was an alternative from all the crap that most of my teenage friends were into. The 80s was the most conformist decade I've encountered (save the 50s maybe, but I obviously wasn't around then). And actually, P was not THAT alternative. I mean, I chose an alternative that was on MTV and in the charts (actually, we didn't have MTV in Australia, but the idea's the same). There was REAL alternative music going on that I got exposed to only when I was in my late teens. The 90s, on the other hand, were a time when alternative became mainstream. It opened things up wide, coz the record execs realized that, not only could they not completely control popular taste, they didn't even understand it. Unfortunately, by the mid-90s that had prettty much begun to die, and the late 90s became blandness incorporated, as it has continued to today. But that doesn't mean that alternative music isn't out there. That's my point: in general the mass-consumption music sux. And in general, most teens are more worried about conforming than music-appreciation. That's always been the same. Finally, I'm only talking about my experience, and I'm sure ther are plenty of other stories. It's the media and big business who like to package things into neat, coherent boxes. Life is not organized into decades, and at every point in time, millions of different things are happening to different people 
Isn't it sad seeing Prince fans, who grew up wanting to be in the "new breed," whining and crying about how bad these kids today are? I'm 30, and I discovered Prince in 1983. I've been a fan ever since. Vainandy, I respect your point about 70s and 80s artists looking different and being unique, and I loved that about those artists too, but being 17 the year grunge and gangsta rap broke (1992) I understand why stars started to look like normal people. Those unique stars of the 80s just got to be too unique. Look back at 1992-3: Prince changed his name to an unpronouncable symbol, Michael Jackson was accused of child molestation, Madonna released a picture book of her naked with animals and Vanilla Ice, George Michael quit making videos and retreated from celebrity, Bono became McPhisto or whatever, and all the hair bands sank to cartoonish lows like "Cherry Pie." Kids didn't see these stars as unique artists, they saw them as out-of-touch whackos. And while I love all of those artists, truth be told, they were out-of-touch whackos. Teens wanted artists they could relate to, who felt the same things they did. The angst and confusion of Nirvana, the anger of Ice Cube, and even the quiet self-expression of artists like Sarah McLachlan. People loved artists who expressed what they couldn't, not geeks in red plastic hats singing "Whip It." That's why music is cyclical. When things got too heavy in the late 60s-early 70s, disco and funk happened because people needed to lighten up. Then that party lasted too long and people got hung-over. And after all the grunge rockers and gangsta rappers got too serious and literally started killing themselves or being murdered, people needed to lighten up again. That's why Hanson and NSync happened. So now that party's lasted a bit too long, and it's time for something serious again. Anyway, my long-winded point is: don't crap on the music of any other generation because you don't understand it. It's not meant for you anyway. Absolutely I think Prince is far more talented and vital to music history than, say, 50 Cent. But I can see why a kid would relate to 50 Cent in 2005 and not Prince albums from 20 years ago. One day though they'll understand. Really, when you guys were 14 or 15, how much did you care about the music of 25 years before? Why would a teenager today know Missy Elliott sampled Cybortron? I didn't know the song "Tramp" by Lowell Fulsom when Prince used it for "7." Serious music fans have to have time to discover all that has come before. You're not going to know every record ever recorded when you're 15. In 1985 I loved Prince, I wasn't interested in James Brown and the Beatles. As I got a little older I realized why those artists are legends and I began to dig their music. Hell, I'm a huge Bing Crosby fan. Let teenagers have their moment and discover all the music from yesterday in their own time. After all it's an awful lot to catch up on. And thanks to anybody who read all of the above.  Renfield has made the most candid post here so far. 
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susannah said: satanass said: r u joking with that question? its a HUGE difference well it shouldnt be. age is irrelevant. the time music came out is irrelevant too. you can get into certain music at any time, and find out the scene at that time, the reasons the music came out, every single factor. you wouldnt tell an art critic that for liking the old masters! we cant help when were born, we can only try to educate ourselves in whatever ways we feel the need to. TRUE DAT !!! cause JB's "Cold Sweat" STILL kicks ass... "Who gon' clean up all deez Flowers" ----Eddie Murphy as mr. clarence | |
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wallysafford said: The compilation should be called:
Green Virgin Teenager it could be part of a 2 disc set...the other for older people called(I couldn't pass this up) Filthy Rich Yuppie [Edited 9/12/05 7:29am] | |
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: Hotlegs said: Well, as I've said before , Legs has been a admiring his music since 78'. Now, with that being said, I must point out from day one that I've noticed his music is always been quite complex for some to catch on teens and adults alike (if you're too
 you simply won't get it). So, that's why till this day some teenagers don't dig it b/c its for the grown and sexy. His music always has been for the grown and sexy and will continue to be even minus the swear words.Excellent point Ms. Legs...I got into Prince when I was 17 although I was familiar with his music, considering that I grew up during the 1980s and my older sis played his records. I didn't really "GET" or appreciate Prince's genius until my taste began to mature and I started to have more life experience. I'm 27 now and Prince is one of my all time favs because his music speaks to me on so many levels. I just think his stuff goes over most peoples heads or they will not give it a chance because of his appearance or because his albums are far too eclectic for most people. Thankfully my taste matured and so will many others. But if they don't "get it" who cares, the masses rarely appreciate anything of substance on a DEEP level. I agree with alot of this as well. I want to add that many of his songs need his backstory to support them. Like some of them, taken out of the context of his career, miss something. Some things U don't get, or they have less meaning if U don't know the gossip behind them. | |
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renfield said: wasitgood4u said: Some people like to recreate history after their own image! It's sad to see Prince fans, who might once have been out there, sitting around like old fogies saying: "remember when.." and "kids these days..." and "that's not music, that's just noise...", "back in my day..."
I lived through the 80s. I was into Prince coz he was an alternative from all the crap that most of my teenage friends were into. The 80s was the most conformist decade I've encountered (save the 50s maybe, but I obviously wasn't around then). And actually, P was not THAT alternative. I mean, I chose an alternative that was on MTV and in the charts (actually, we didn't have MTV in Australia, but the idea's the same). There was REAL alternative music going on that I got exposed to only when I was in my late teens. The 90s, on the other hand, were a time when alternative became mainstream. It opened things up wide, coz the record execs realized that, not only could they not completely control popular taste, they didn't even understand it. Unfortunately, by the mid-90s that had prettty much begun to die, and the late 90s became blandness incorporated, as it has continued to today. But that doesn't mean that alternative music isn't out there. That's my point: in general the mass-consumption music sux. And in general, most teens are more worried about conforming than music-appreciation. That's always been the same. Finally, I'm only talking about my experience, and I'm sure ther are plenty of other stories. It's the media and big business who like to package things into neat, coherent boxes. Life is not organized into decades, and at every point in time, millions of different things are happening to different people
Isn't it sad seeing Prince fans, who grew up wanting to be in the "new breed," whining and crying about how bad these kids today are? I'm 30, and I discovered Prince in 1983. I've been a fan ever since. Vainandy, I respect your point about 70s and 80s artists looking different and being unique, and I loved that about those artists too, but being 17 the year grunge and gangsta rap broke (1992) I understand why stars started to look like normal people. Those unique stars of the 80s just got to be too unique. Look back at 1992-3: Prince changed his name to an unpronouncable symbol, Michael Jackson was accused of child molestation, Madonna released a picture book of her naked with animals and Vanilla Ice, George Michael quit making videos and retreated from celebrity, Bono became McPhisto or whatever, and all the hair bands sank to cartoonish lows like "Cherry Pie." Kids didn't see these stars as unique artists, they saw them as out-of-touch whackos. And while I love all of those artists, truth be told, they were out-of-touch whackos. Teens wanted artists they could relate to, who felt the same things they did. The angst and confusion of Nirvana, the anger of Ice Cube, and even the quiet self-expression of artists like Sarah McLachlan. People loved artists who expressed what they couldn't, not geeks in red plastic hats singing "Whip It." That's why music is cyclical. When things got too heavy in the late 60s-early 70s, disco and funk happened because people needed to lighten up. Then that party lasted too long and people got hung-over. And after all the grunge rockers and gangsta rappers got too serious and literally started killing themselves or being murdered, people needed to lighten up again. That's why Hanson and NSync happened. So now that party's lasted a bit too long, and it's time for something serious again. Anyway, my long-winded point is: don't crap on the music of any other generation because you don't understand it. It's not meant for you anyway. Absolutely I think Prince is far more talented and vital to music history than, say, 50 Cent. But I can see why a kid would relate to 50 Cent in 2005 and not Prince albums from 20 years ago. One day though they'll understand. Really, when you guys were 14 or 15, how much did you care about the music of 25 years before? Why would a teenager today know Missy Elliott sampled Cybortron? I didn't know the song "Tramp" by Lowell Fulsom when Prince used it for "7." Serious music fans have to have time to discover all that has come before. You're not going to know every record ever recorded when you're 15. In 1985 I loved Prince, I wasn't interested in James Brown and the Beatles. As I got a little older I realized why those artists are legends and I began to dig their music. Hell, I'm a huge Bing Crosby fan. Let teenagers have their moment and discover all the music from yesterday in their own time. After all it's an awful lot to catch up on. And thanks to anybody who read all of the above. And the 34-year-old Prince fan stands up and applauds...Let these kids live a little... | |
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When I was in High School my friends used to make fun of him, I got into him at 11 years old. I saw one of his videos and I was like who the hell is he. I didn't feel right watching his video though, but I couldn't take my eyes off of him. Don't worry i'm sure there are pleanty of teens out there who dig Prince.
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kpowers said: BEAUGARDE said: Prince really isn't a video star & he's not seen enough. Had he spent more time supporting & promoting his albums he would have more exposure. Most of his videos R of him performing a song and not doing the latest dances, fighting gangs and werewolves or in some outer space or underwater adventure.
Not seen enough????? Prince in the last 10 years has been on the tonight show several times, today alot of times, tons of european shows, vh1 specials, the view, mtv shows (trl), muppet show, ellen, oprah, letterman, vibe, B.E.T, (theres more). But when it comes right down to it prince wants his music to speak for him. Do teenagers watch any of these shows? He needs 2 do a concert on MTV. But Prince has always had a strange relationship with MTV. My point is SUPPORT & PROMOTE the CD. When he was TRL for promoting "Rave" he gave them an undone copy of The Greatest Romance. Lets B 4real. If he really wanted 2 sell something then he should have had the remix with Eve as the video and it should have been the dopest that he has ever done. Not that lame ass shit! |
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 You have some teenagers who thought Purple Rain was Prince's 1st album. Some teens who just find him to be either strange or weird....& his music just do not appeal to them at all. He is just one of those artist that use to be big once to them. | |
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BEAUGARDE said: kpowers said: Not seen enough????? Prince in the last 10 years has been on the tonight show several times, today alot of times, tons of european shows, vh1 specials, the view, mtv shows (trl), muppet show, ellen, oprah, letterman, vibe, B.E.T, (theres more). But when it comes right down to it prince wants his music to speak for him. Do teenagers watch any of these shows? He needs 2 do a concert on MTV. But Prince has always had a strange relationship with MTV. My point is SUPPORT & PROMOTE the CD. When he was TRL for promoting "Rave" he gave them an undone copy of The Greatest Romance. Lets B 4real. If he really wanted 2 sell something then he should have had the remix with Eve as the video and it should have been the dopest that he has ever done. Not that lame ass shit! Well you said he needs to be on TV and I pointed it out to you that he has. Many of todays artist have appeared on many of the shows that I mentioned above (face it if you are a Jessica simpson fan and you find out she's going to be on the today show you will watch it even if it's not a show that you usually watch). I do agree with you that he should not of release "the greatest romance" from rave (I have mentioned that on many threads) but he should of release "so far so pleased" instead. |
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BEAUGARDE said: kpowers said: Not seen enough????? Prince in the last 10 years has been on the tonight show several times, today alot of times, tons of european shows, vh1 specials, the view, mtv shows (trl), muppet show, ellen, oprah, letterman, vibe, B.E.T, (theres more). But when it comes right down to it prince wants his music to speak for him. Do teenagers watch any of these shows? He needs 2 do a concert on MTV. But Prince has always had a strange relationship with MTV. My point is SUPPORT & PROMOTE the CD. When he was TRL for promoting "Rave" he gave them an undone copy of The Greatest Romance. Lets B 4real. If he really wanted 2 sell something then he should have had the remix with Eve as the video and it should have been the dopest that he has ever done. Not that lame ass shit! and he did do a mini concert on MTV to promote Musicology CD |
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I'm 22 and I had all those experiences myself (friends calling him faggot and stuff) but a lot of my friends really now music themselves and, while they don't listen to him like we here do, they know he's the shit when they see the RRHOF or whatever else. And the others know by now that I know my music, so they rather shut up. If they won't, just drop a song here and there. I assure you, they won't believe it's Prince if you play Da Bang, for example. [Edited 9/13/05 3:10am] | |
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Most young kids are in2 mass marketed packages that are commercial fodder, fortunately for P he don't fall into that box. | |
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well, most poeple don't instinctively like frilly femme music (that's anti cool rocknroll). A lot of Prince is an aquired taste through conditioning. We have been asimilated. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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