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Reply #30 posted 08/07/05 2:36am

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thebige said:

Aerogram said:

You should get it, but be warned that it's no Sign O' the Times.


Well at least on the Aladdin DVD the performances you see are the ones that you hear, unlike Sign O' The Times, which is performance footage mixed with re-staged footage from Paisley Park with an overdubbed, re-recorded soundtrack! That movie has more tinkering done to it than The Song Remains The Same, which is saying something!!

Buy the Aladdin DVD, it's worth it. Certainly a better, more "real", live document than either Sign or Rave.

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I have to say that the overdubbing and obvious playbacking in SOTT is spoiling a lot of the fun for me nowadays, it is just not "live". Too bad he did that.
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Reply #31 posted 08/07/05 3:14am

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funkaholic1972 said:

thebige said:



Well at least on the Aladdin DVD the performances you see are the ones that you hear, unlike Sign O' The Times, which is performance footage mixed with re-staged footage from Paisley Park with an overdubbed, re-recorded soundtrack! That movie has more tinkering done to it than The Song Remains The Same, which is saying something!!

Buy the Aladdin DVD, it's worth it. Certainly a better, more "real", live document than either Sign or Rave.

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I have to say that the overdubbing and obvious playbacking in SOTT is spoiling a lot of the fun for me nowadays, it is just not "live". Too bad he did that.

This overdubbing annoyed me the first time I saw the movie in the theatre in 1988 ..... I even saw the movie in the sped-up version in a theatre (just like moonraker's Wonderboy, the dutch DVD and the english VHS) ...

Overdubbed and out of speed in a movie-theatre! ... that was a great disappointment.

By the way ... the greatest disappointment followed years later, when I received the "Miles from the park" DVD ...
"It's gonna be a beautiful night" isn't just overdubbed ...
It's actually lip-synched !!!!!

Damned ... I always thought the voice was so simular during all concerts ....
it's fucking lip-synched! ... can you imagin this ... Prince was fakin' it ...
I'm glad I haven't noticed this more often, do you?
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Reply #32 posted 08/07/05 6:40am

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Yeah , i felt cheated when i heard SOTT was overdubbed
Is Miles From The Park the same as 'Paisley Park '87' ?
(starts with a long drum solo by Sheila E)
I have that too , haven't played it much yet , tho'
Why would he lipsynch and overdub that ?
It wasn't officialy released was it ?
Or you meant while performing it ? confuse
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Reply #33 posted 08/07/05 9:47am

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Dewrede said:

Yeah , i felt cheated when i heard SOTT was overdubbed
Is Miles From The Park the same as 'Paisley Park '87' ?
(starts with a long drum solo by Sheila E)
I have that too , haven't played it much yet , tho'
Why would he lipsynch and overdub that ?
It wasn't officialy released was it ?
Or you meant while performing it ? confuse
[Edited 8/7/05 7:05am]

yes indeed ... I mean while performing it!
(Miles from the park is the dec. 31th 1987 concert = Paisley Park '87)
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Reply #34 posted 08/07/05 10:08am

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OK , that sucks indeed , haven't seen that part yet (but i noticed Miles while forwarding it)
(i have a few videos i have only seen half of boxed)
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Reply #35 posted 08/07/05 10:33am

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First of all, believe everyone that posted above saying the quality of picture and sound sucks. That said, it's cheap to purchase and will surely go out of print. So as a testament to this part of Prince's career, it's not definitive... but it's the only official release. If you're curious and have a little "Prince" cash, get it... but take it for what it is, a sort of official bootleg.
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Reply #36 posted 08/07/05 10:43am

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thanks smile
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Reply #37 posted 08/09/05 11:13am

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Buy it. Not the greatest show, but if you like Prince and want another pro show concert, then get it. I got another one at Walmart's for $10. That's cheap for a dvd concert. I still liked it even though he edited it. I heard the real concert was fantastic!!! and the aftershow too.
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Reply #38 posted 08/09/05 11:19am

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Thanks
Here in Holland (The Netherlands) it's 20 Euros , i'll buy it
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Reply #39 posted 08/09/05 12:46pm

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Dewrede said:

Thanks
Here in Holland (The Netherlands) it's 20 Euros , i'll buy it

Van Leest: 15,00 euro
met een pasje 13,50 euro
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Reply #40 posted 08/09/05 4:17pm

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Dank je smile , had eigenlijk alleen maar bij Free Record shop gekeken
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Reply #41 posted 08/09/05 5:16pm

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SANSKER7 said:

Buy it. Not the greatest show, but if you like Prince and want another pro show concert, then get it. I got another one at Walmart's for $10. That's cheap for a dvd concert. I still liked it even though he edited it. I heard the real concert was fantastic!!! and the aftershow too.

The whole thing was fantastic from getting on line (I got there after 1pm) to leaving Studio 54 after 4 that morning. If for nothing else, what I wish was on the DVD that wasn't was him doing Power Fantastic during the show and it wasn't the piano segment. I almost cried during that song. It was so beautiful.
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Reply #42 posted 08/09/05 6:11pm

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purplecam said:

GustavoRibas said:


- Yes....too bad it wasn´t opened with the ´Rainbow Children´ song...it would have been great.Anyway I love this DVD...it shows a Prince focused on the music like never before (different from his other DVDs, where there was too much dancing and gimmicks). His band is great also. Lot better than Rave In2 the Year 2000. Definitely worth buying.

The underlined statement is one of the major disappointments with the DVD. Rainbow Children was the first song of the concert. I believe Pop Life was the second. There are quite a few songs that were not on the DVD that he played, including almost the entire piano section. The concert was about 3 hours long. That's why if a Musicology DVD comes out he BETTER put ALL the songs on there. Hopefully, enough people complained from the Aladddin DVD for them to do the right thing, if they release it pray


At this point why do you think there's gonna be a musicology DVD? confused
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Reply #43 posted 08/09/05 7:02pm

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GustavoRibas said:

Aerogram said:

You should get it, but be warned that it's no Sign O' the Times. The performances are great for the most part and the band makes this DVD a step above Rave On 2 the Year 2000. The song selection is left field, which is an advantage or a drawback depending on your Prince knowledge. The DVD definitely fails to recreate the feel of a Prince concert -- it's more a collection of concert clips than anything else. However, Strange Relationship, Whole Lotta Love, The Ride and Family Name are well worth your time and $$$.

- Yes....too bad it wasn´t opened with the ´Rainbow Children´ song...it would have been great.
Anyway I love this DVD...it shows a Prince focused on the music like never before (different from his other DVDs, where there was too much dancing and gimmicks). His band is great also. Lot better than Rave In2 the Year 2000. Definitely worth buying.

It is too bad RC wasn't on it. The song started with John Blackwell on drums, then Sheila, then Prince... so cool. I hated the DVD at first because it wasn't the whole show, which was phenomenal. But it has grown on me. And I'm in it -- gotta love that!!! BUY IT!
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Reply #44 posted 08/09/05 7:12pm

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This DVD SUCKS!

I was shocked at how unbelievably bad it was for an official release.

The camera angles are amateur at best, and the sound completely blows. It really is bootleg quality.

The editing is the biggest insult though. It's like the whole thing was randomly edited in 30 seconds.

There was absolutely zero effort put into this DVD. It's pretty clear from the inexcusable quality that it was just quickly made to cash in on his rabid fans.
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Reply #45 posted 08/09/05 9:06pm

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purplecam said:

SANSKER7 said:

Buy it. Not the greatest show, but if you like Prince and want another pro show concert, then get it. I got another one at Walmart's for $10. That's cheap for a dvd concert. I still liked it even though he edited it. I heard the real concert was fantastic!!! and the aftershow too.

The whole thing was fantastic from getting on line (I got there after 1pm) to leaving Studio 54 after 4 that morning. If for nothing else, what I wish was on the DVD that wasn't was him doing Power Fantastic during the show and it wasn't the piano segment. I almost cried during that song. It was so beautiful.


Pity Power Fantastic isn't on it indeed nod
I'd like too see him perform that live
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Reply #46 posted 08/09/05 9:07pm

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LisasBrush said:

GustavoRibas said:


- Yes....too bad it wasn´t opened with the ´Rainbow Children´ song...it would have been great.
Anyway I love this DVD...it shows a Prince focused on the music like never before (different from his other DVDs, where there was too much dancing and gimmicks). His band is great also. Lot better than Rave In2 the Year 2000. Definitely worth buying.

It is too bad RC wasn't on it. The song started with John Blackwell on drums, then Sheila, then Prince... so cool. I hated the DVD at first because it wasn't the whole show, which was phenomenal. But it has grown on me. And I'm in it -- gotta love that!!! BUY IT!


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Reply #47 posted 08/09/05 9:09pm

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PurpleKnight said:

This DVD SUCKS!

I was shocked at how unbelievably bad it was for an official release.

The camera angles are amateur at best, and the sound completely blows. It really is bootleg quality.

The editing is the biggest insult though. It's like the whole thing was randomly edited in 30 seconds.

There was absolutely zero effort put into this DVD. It's pretty clear from the inexcusable quality that it was just quickly made to cash in on his rabid fans.


The opinions on this DVD really vary smile
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Reply #48 posted 08/09/05 11:42pm

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ThataintFunky said:

Dewrede said:

Yeah , i felt cheated when i heard SOTT was overdubbed
Is Miles From The Park the same as 'Paisley Park '87' ?
(starts with a long drum solo by Sheila E)
I have that too , haven't played it much yet , tho'
Why would he lipsynch and overdub that ?
It wasn't officialy released was it ?
Or you meant while performing it ? confuse
[Edited 8/7/05 7:05am]

yes indeed ... I mean while performing it!
(Miles from the park is the dec. 31th 1987 concert = Paisley Park '87)


Hang on now... Only the SOTT movie/video was overdubbed/lipsynched. The actual Sign O The Times tour (including the aftershows and Miles gig) are the real thing. Heaven forbid you put such a nasty thought in my head!!

Oh, and as for the Aladdin DVD... Picture is SHITHOUSE, Music is BRILLIANT. As a fan though it's a must have (because official DVDs are rare as we have seen with the Musicology tour!!)
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Reply #49 posted 08/10/05 12:01am

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Love2tha9s said:

purplecam said:


The underlined statement is one of the major disappointments with the DVD. Rainbow Children was the first song of the concert. I believe Pop Life was the second. There are quite a few songs that were not on the DVD that he played, including almost the entire piano section. The concert was about 3 hours long. That's why if a Musicology DVD comes out he BETTER put ALL the songs on there. Hopefully, enough people complained from the Aladddin DVD for them to do the right thing, if they release it pray


At this point why do you think there's gonna be a musicology DVD? confused

Just being optimistic. I believe he's going to release it along with the new CD but I really don't know anything. A man can dream right? LOL
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Reply #50 posted 08/10/05 12:03am

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Dewrede said:

purplecam said:


The whole thing was fantastic from getting on line (I got there after 1pm) to leaving Studio 54 after 4 that morning. If for nothing else, what I wish was on the DVD that wasn't was him doing Power Fantastic during the show and it wasn't the piano segment. I almost cried during that song. It was so beautiful.


Pity Power Fantastic isn't on it indeed nod
I'd like too see him perform that live
[Edited 8/9/05 21:18pm]

I hope he does it again in future shows. I just look forward to seeing how this next tour will be. Maybe some more obscure songs.
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Reply #51 posted 08/10/05 12:05am

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LisasBrush said:

GustavoRibas said:


- Yes....too bad it wasn´t opened with the ´Rainbow Children´ song...it would have been great.
Anyway I love this DVD...it shows a Prince focused on the music like never before (different from his other DVDs, where there was too much dancing and gimmicks). His band is great also. Lot better than Rave In2 the Year 2000. Definitely worth buying.

It is too bad RC wasn't on it. The song started with John Blackwell on drums, then Sheila, then Prince... so cool. I hated the DVD at first because it wasn't the whole show, which was phenomenal. But it has grown on me. And I'm in it -- gotta love that!!! BUY IT!

I totally get where you're coming from, especially being there. I was scared to buy it after hearing all the complaints about the picture quality. It didn't bother me as much as I thought it would and I enjoyed it. I look at it to remember what a fun night I had. Great memories from that one show. biggrin
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Reply #52 posted 08/10/05 12:06am

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Me too , he should come to Europe soon !

(replying to your previous post)
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Reply #53 posted 08/10/05 12:23am

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You should get it, but be warned that it's no Sign O' the Times. The performances are great for the most part and the band makes this DVD a step above Rave On 2 the Year 2000. The song selection is left field, which is an advantage or a drawback depending on your Prince knowledge. The DVD definitely fails to recreate the feel of a Prince concert -- it's more a collection of concert clips than anything else. However, Strange Relationship, Whole Lotta Love, The Ride and Family Name are well worth your time and $$$.


Aerogram said: >> The performances are great for the most part and the band makes this DVD a step above Rave On 2 the Year 2000.

AT THIS STAGE, I cannot agree. Maybe it's becoz I got Alladin b 4 Rave Un2, but the second is so much more fun for me.

Alladin has some great jams/instrumentalality and all, but it some how lacks the FUN I c in Rave Un2.

I'll admit, maybe I'm a junkie 4 Prince's commercial type thang, as in Rave Un2. But 4 me, Prince has proved his musical skills a million times, (as in Alladin) and needs 2 re-connect with people's emotions, which at times I think he's lost. (Oh Lawd, sorry 4 the long-ness of this)
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Reply #54 posted 08/10/05 12:29am

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I think the Rave performance was a little too slick and overrehearsed
at times , therefore lacking spontaneity , i like it , tho;
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Reply #55 posted 08/10/05 4:11pm

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So does an "unofficial" version of the concert @ the Aladdin or One Night Alone Tour exist?
Just askin' wink
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Reply #56 posted 08/10/05 5:16pm

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Dewrede said:

I think the Rave performance was a little too slick and overrehearsed
at times , therefore lacking spontaneity , i like it , tho;
[Edited 8/10/05 1:02am]


Underrated.

The Rave DVD is my fave. Everyone I've played it for has loved it.
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Reply #57 posted 08/11/05 2:58am

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herb4 said:

Dewrede said:

I think the Rave performance was a little too slick and overrehearsed
at times , therefore lacking spontaneity , i like it , tho;
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Underrated.

The Rave DVD is my fave. Everyone I've played it for has loved it.


Really??? I would never show that DVD to friends, I don't think it is a good performance. When I first saw it I was embarrassed to see the once great Prince at such a lowpoint in his career. The band is bland, the audience is tame, the stage looks boring and Prince looks like a fool in these clothes (to me at least). I strongly dislike this DVD.
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Reply #58 posted 08/11/05 6:51am

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pimp it's so f**king Good! pimp2 Trust mei
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Reply #59 posted 08/11/05 7:51am

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it basically sucks

bad singing and shity sound and image

no annastesia also
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