laurarichardson said:

I understand your point...But Raphael's Instant Vintage was one of 2002's best albums and was beloved by the critics, but criminally slept on my music fans....I would advise you to listen to the Vintage album and see why I made my statement...We all know Prince is an icon; I don't think anyone has ever said differently...The only Prince album in the last 15 years that holds up against it is the Gold album (mind you, P has made some good, underrated and decent albums along with some of his worst material since 1990)....Like most P fans on this site, I hope you are not making your statement without listening to an album first.....P is the most talented artist of his generation and an immortal whose legend will continue to grow over time, but he doesn't walk on water; His output from 1990 to 2005 has been good to lackluster, but never exceptionally great...and that's nothing to be ashamed of given the artistic streak the man had from 1980-1988, a streak that few artists will ever match...And I really don't know about the stuff about ripping off DMSR...That's a bit of a reach....
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murph said:

oh no..dont say that..cause your gonna be told to get in a timemachine and stop wishing for Purple Rain2..

....yes ,those other no names would never be anywhere without being in the rarified air of a Prince Roger Nelson.

murph, I have never heard the Instant Vintage album, but just as you and said critics rave over it others (critics included) raved over some Prince records in the 1990-1995 time period.I need to go out and find it because you have influenced my curious nature.

murph said:

I brought Instant Vintage the day it came out. I was extremly disapointed with it and disapointed with Raphel destrution of Lucy Pearl. If you know how he screwed that up he comes off as bigger butthead than Prince.

I don't think P walks on water but, I don't think Raphel is in P league.
Go back and listen to DMSR and Born Not To Know. It is a straight rip off.
Perhaps they meant it as a tribute or a inside joke.

sosgemini said:

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"p borrowered heavily from his bandmembers and didnt give them credit.."

Bandmates should have sought legal advice and quit.

"yes the written, arranged and produced by prince monicure is a huge joke..."

If you think so but, none of us really know do we. I guess we will start to ponder Stevie Wonder or Lenny Kravitz and anyone else that does it all.

"yes andre cymone went on to become a hot hot hot producer....."

He has not produced anything of note in over a decade. What are you talking about ?


"yes morris day wrote a prince song that became his first big hit.."

WTF are you talking about. I never read anything about Morris writing anything for P's first or second CD. If anyone is going to shout out for credit it would be Morris. Who is still performing 2 dozen songs that Prince wrote for him two decades ago.


"some witty, friendly, insightful responce to my comments.."

You will always get it back at you.

I don't know why you feel like it is your duty to slam old boy. We all know he can be an ass. It makes him a human being just like anybody else. The music industry appears to be a ruthless industry were everybody is constanly getting ripped off or ripping someone off because the whole industry was designed this way from the minute Edison invented the phonograph.

laurarichardson said:

if it's such "a rip off", how come your the only one that thinks so.

Theseofit must be on a holiday.

laurarichardson said:

im slamming the "old boy"...hey folks, am i slamming the "old boy"? or is laura reading into my posts what she wants to?

jbell said:

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I am not the only one. When I brought the TTT tape with BNTK on it me and all of my friends said Gee this sounds like DMSR.

If you have ears you can hear it.

sosgemini said:

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No, you are slamming him and using a lot of gossip to make your point. We only know one side of the story.

laurarichardson said:

sos said:



well, golly!! your right...i am slamming the man....gee, your good...

laurarichardson said:

sosgemini said:[quote]

laurarichardson said:

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Yea, you think he belongs in the RRHF. What would we all do if we did not have
Sos seal of approval.(LOL)

Let's just agree to disagree and realize that none of us really knows what goes on behind closed doors in Purple land.

laurarichardson said:

The breakup of Lucy Pearl had a lot more to do with Dawn's hard-to-work-with ass. She helped ruin Envogue and she took her same janky ways to Lucy Pearl and helped that fall.

TheCrucialExperience said:

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No Dawn said she was not paid and she almost lost her home waiting for Rapheal to pay her. The D.J in the group backed up her story.

laurarichardson said:

wallysafford said:

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Whatever dude. Anyone who thinks people don't get ripped off in the music industry needs to get their head out of the sand but, I think some of you like having your head in the sand.

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

Yeah, Shaheed said they were both headtrippin'. Dawn and her late arrivals to rehearsal and gigs and her diva demands and Ray wasn't doling out the paper to their liking.

To this day Shaheed frowns upon talking about his experience as a Lucy Pearl member.

Remember guys, Rapahel worked with Prince on the ONA Live CD so there appears to be no hard feelings.

ares said:

He also gives Prince some love on his Instant Vintage CD.

laurarichardson said:

good point.

Morris may have been uncredited for a song that Prince used.

The Time definitely used Prince's work for which he actively sought to go uncredited.

for the record, dawn said that she only intended to be a part of Lucy Pearl for one year...she left at the agreed upon time...and there is no mixed feelings...

Universaluv said:

no arguements here....and what song did morris right? somebody help me here..i cant remember it...

no arguements here....and what song did morris right? somebody help me here..i cant remember it...[/quote]



was'nt it party up.

jbell said:

was'nt it party up.[/quote]

was it?

UncleGrandpa said:

P and Ray are cool with one another. I don't think there was ever a conflict. They only declined to be in his band. Nothing wrong with that. They respect him as P has respect for Raphael. I've been to at least 2 shows in which P acknowledged Raphael in the audience to show respect, and one show where Raphael gave a shout out to Prince. Dude wasn't even there, but wanted to acknowledge P.

Anyone recall Ray's work on 'How Does It Feel?'? That was a tribute to Prince as was 'Tick Tock' I believe.

What work did Ray do on the One Night Alone disc?