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Thread started 06/03/05 7:00pm

Tiffypoo2004

prince with sexuality and spirtuality

what i dont seem to understand is why do some of prince's songs tie together the subject of sexuality and spirtuality. is it maybe because he was battling between singing " God's music and the devil music". what do u think? how is sexuality a spirtual thing that i cant seem to understand. neutral
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Reply #1 posted 06/03/05 7:23pm

sitruk7

It has to do with the never ending battle of who we are and who we want to be. That's one of the things that always interested me about Prince growing up, his honesty.
Though it's a good album ,but not a favorite,the Batman soundtrack is a great example of the human flesh vs spiritual war in my eyes as were the Purple Rain and Lovesexy tours.
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Reply #2 posted 06/03/05 9:10pm

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I always laugh when i hear that statement sexuality is spirituality in nature or somethin like that.... typical Gemini response ( im one myself lol ) 2 answer ur ques. i suppose its only " spiritual" when it's with ur husband/wife. Me personally, i dont connect the two in that way.I believe it is what it is and if ur a God-fearin person then u know how HE views all that so, come on now! Sex is Sex!! ~Tina
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Reply #3 posted 06/04/05 12:51am

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Tiffypoo2004 said:

what i dont seem to understand is why do some of prince's songs tie together the subject of sexuality and spirtuality. is it maybe because he was battling between singing " God's music and the devil music". what do u think? how is sexuality a spirtual thing that i cant seem to understand. neutral
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...it twists & intertwines N his mind....we R Spiritual Beings who inhabit flesh 4 sensual/carnel experiences...when U find balance = one expression enhances the other....

....the kama sutra offers suggestions on how this can B incorporated...its a matter of discovering these energies & their appropriate use...eye found it was more a thing of discipline than wide circulation~that's just B wink

...one can only hope he finds what he's been looking 4 & the Balance comes: then he's sure 2 have plenty of new tracks 2 explain it 2 everyone cool

speaking one of my lines, "every thought & action is done N the face of GOD!"

lest we 4get~GOD designed us, GOD was the one who came up with the idea of sex!
(can U eye MagiNe that conversation with the angels?) it is the origin of our Being! what a program! an amazing experience ~ 2 procreate generations & continue the dance of Life GOD gave all N the Beginning! oh yeah, N my world the sexual & Spiritual R deeply connected...4 B U can't get 2 one without the other~perhaps thats Y everyone who knows B will tell U eye speak N-U-EN-DO wink
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Reply #4 posted 06/04/05 4:58am

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I think it's because he was human. Most of us want to do right on this earth and leave here and go to a better place. However, we are all sinners and have sexual urges. Prince was just being real, admitting it, and not trying to put on an act that he was a sinfree person like so many other so-called religious people do.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #5 posted 06/04/05 10:08am

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vainandy said:

I think it's because he was human.



...he was human? Vainandy, R U gonna say something we don't generally talk about N mixed company lol
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Reply #6 posted 06/04/05 10:08am

babynoz

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Tiffypoo2004 said:

what i dont seem to understand is why do some of prince's songs tie together the subject of sexuality and spirtuality. is it maybe because he was battling between singing " God's music and the devil music". what do u think? how is sexuality a spirtual thing that i cant seem to understand. neutral
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...it twists & intertwines N his mind....we R Spiritual Beings who inhabit flesh 4 sensual/carnel experiences...when U find balance = one expression enhances the other....

....the kama sutra offers suggestions on how this can B incorporated...its a matter of discovering these energies & their appropriate use...eye found it was more a thing of discipline than wide circulation~that's just B wink

...one can only hope he finds what he's been looking 4 & the Balance comes: then he's sure 2 have plenty of new tracks 2 explain it 2 everyone cool

speaking one of my lines, "every thought & action is done N the face of GOD!"

lest we 4get~GOD designed us, GOD was the one who came up with the idea of sex!
(can U eye MagiNe that conversation with the angels?) it is the origin of our Being! what a program! an amazing experience ~ 2 procreate generations & continue the dance of Life GOD gave all N the Beginning! oh yeah, N my world the sexual & Spiritual R deeply connected...4 B U can't get 2 one without the other~perhaps thats Y everyone who knows B will tell U eye speak N-U-EN-DO wink



Good points B.

This is the very nature of life force (spiritual/sexual) energy. I do sense that P had this energy powerfully awakened in him at an early age, (if not from birth) and has been striving to balance it ever since. I believe he'll get there B. He's already come very close.

By the grace of God we will all achieve this Oneness.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #7 posted 06/04/05 12:08pm

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I think it's a fantastic example of how many mainstream man-made religions, have tried to make sex an un-Godly, or unnatural, act.

Prince's fusing of the sexual and spiritual, is nowhere near an original artistic statement, but I think it is put across extremely well in his music.

Whilst Prince might be playing out the seeming opposite of "God" and Sex - I think what these themes in his music really show (most likely unknowingly considering his long-held religious views?) is the worrying propaganda and social control of major religions, who have successfully made sex into a taboo subject.

I dunno if I'm explaining myself very well - but essential Prince has often played out, in his music, the unseeming duality of sex and religion - he's fused them, suggested one is enhanced by the other and such.

What I'm suggesting is that he's not fusing them as such, he's just inadvertently showing the hypocrasy of religion.

Sex, creates life - so it's impossible to deny that sex is a natural act - So to say sex and God are not linked at the most base point is to ignore this: that sex is used to create life, not only that, we are driven to have sex, because it is biologically encoded in us to feel good when doing it.

So, even outside procreation, sex feels good - not because we want it to, or socially we are told it will feel good - but because it is hardwired in us to feel that way.

Who hard-wired us? Well, if you're a Christian, it's that big ol' dude in the sky, or if not, it's mother nature, or the great collective consciousness, or, whatever or however you personally express what "God" is, whatever metaphor you like to use - It created us to enjoy and have sex.

I think this is what Prince has written about in his songs, it's just his views have always been very rooted in Christian guilt and dogma.
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Reply #8 posted 06/04/05 12:26pm

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Reply #9 posted 06/04/05 1:19pm

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Today's music is a dead ass bore. It's too fast for the bed,and too slow for the floor. So I'm pulling out the funk from the stax of wax,because talent and rhythm is what today's music lacks.



headbang Nice rhymes,QueenB. Rap on witcha bad self rap on,sista'!! clapping headbang
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Reply #10 posted 06/04/05 1:31pm

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kookie said:

theoriginalQueenB's signature:
Today's music is a dead ass bore. It's too fast for the bed,and too slow for the floor. So I'm pulling out the funk from the stax of wax,because talent and rhythm is what today's music lacks.



headbang Nice rhymes,QueenB. Rap on witcha bad self rap on,sista'!! clapping headbang
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That's my signature.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #11 posted 06/04/05 1:45pm

Hotlegs

kookie said:

theoriginalQueenB's signature:
Today's music is a dead ass bore. It's too fast for the bed,and too slow for the floor. So I'm pulling out the funk from the stax of wax,because talent and rhythm is what today's music lacks.



headbang Nice rhymes,QueenB. Rap on witcha bad self rap on,sista'!! clapping headbang
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Reply #12 posted 06/04/05 2:27pm

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Sexuality is a God given gift to us all to use and enjoy.

for centuries before Christanity mankind worshiped the power Sexaulity had over us.

i personally think God wants to enjoy our sexual side, why else would he have given it to us. Also with in the Leather community good play envolves a deeper personal and spirtiual connection with the person that you are playing with.
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #13 posted 06/04/05 4:30pm

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That's my signature.



Oops. :redface: I'm sorry. and if you feel cheated and ignored about that don't be,cause you definitely got your revenge back already,I feel like a real heel.nod how embarrassing boxed
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Reply #14 posted 06/04/05 4:34pm

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headbang Nice rhymes,Vainandy, rap on, witcha bad, self rap on BROTHA'clapping

comfort hug vainandy: touched thumbs up!
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Reply #15 posted 06/04/05 10:15pm

batmanx

Tiffypoo2004 said:

what i dont seem to understand is why do some of prince's songs tie together the subject of sexuality and spirtuality. is it maybe because he was battling between singing " God's music and the devil music". what do u think? how is sexuality a spirtual thing that i cant seem to understand. neutral
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Sexy Music does not equal "devil music".

That's what made me love Prince. He could tie the two together so beautifully.
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Reply #16 posted 06/05/05 3:16am

Hotlegs

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Tiffypoo2004 said:

what i dont seem to understand is why do some of prince's songs tie together the subject of sexuality and spirtuality. is it maybe because he was battling between singing " God's music and the devil music". what do u think? how is sexuality a spirtual thing that i cant seem to understand. neutral
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Sexy Music does not equal "devil music".

That's what made me love Prince. He could tie the two together so beautifully.

Basically, Prince was able to tie Sensual and Gospel music together b/c they both come from the same place god. Both music form invoke emotions.
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Reply #17 posted 06/05/05 8:45am

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kookie said:

vainandy said:



That's my signature.



Oops. :redface: I'm sorry. and if you feel cheated and ignored about that don't be,cause you definitely got your revenge back already,I feel like a real heel.nod how embarrassing boxed


biggrin No problem.
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Reply #18 posted 06/05/05 10:15am

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because horny people that believe in God do exist!
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
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Reply #19 posted 06/05/05 10:16am

sitruk7

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because horny people that believe in God do exist!

Amen!
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