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Thread started 05/20/05 10:21am

pkidwell

Question about Gold Nigga

I just bought one from Ebay but how can I tell if it is real and not a bootleg? Was this on NPG records?
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Reply #1 posted 05/20/05 11:56am

8up

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I don't know, mine's a homemade copy. It should be obvious though, if it's real. What's making you question it?
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Reply #2 posted 05/20/05 11:58am

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pkidwell said:

I just bought one from Ebay but how can I tell if it is real and not a bootleg? Was this on NPG records?
Yes it was on NPG Records.

But that won't necessarily tell you whether it's a boot (or pirate) - or not.

1. How many tracks are on it?
2. Tracklisting?
3. Any catalogue numbering / lettering?
4. Any stated country of manufacture?
5. Quality / images on cover and liner?
6. Colour of disc.

If you can provide these details then that should help.
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ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift.
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Reply #3 posted 05/20/05 2:21pm

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i have a 15 track version unopened for sale,,,, 150 buxx
frogadocious gone creepin,,yall know who he be , NO NEED 2 ASK SOMEBODY !
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Reply #4 posted 05/21/05 2:30am

metalorange

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langebleu said:

pkidwell said:

I just bought one from Ebay but how can I tell if it is real and not a bootleg? Was this on NPG records?
Yes it was on NPG Records.

But that won't necessarily tell you whether it's a boot (or pirate) - or not.

1. How many tracks are on it?
2. Tracklisting?
3. Any catalogue numbering / lettering?
4. Any stated country of manufacture?
5. Quality / images on cover and liner?
6. Colour of disc.

If you can provide these details then that should help.
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It's getting like antiques road-show around here
"Hmmm, an original Black Album vinyl edition - Oh yes, if you look here, you can see the catalogue number on the bottom, see? If it was in it's sealed wrapper, it would be worth £200, but in this condition, at auction, I would say £100, £150 for insurance purposes. But a lovely heirloom for your children, thanks for bringing it in... Next! Ah, the Goldnigga album, first pressing..."
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Reply #5 posted 05/21/05 4:44am

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metalorange said:

langebleu said:

Yes it was on NPG Records.

But that won't necessarily tell you whether it's a boot (or pirate) - or not.

1. How many tracks are on it?
2. Tracklisting?
3. Any catalogue numbering / lettering?
4. Any stated country of manufacture?
5. Quality / images on cover and liner?
6. Colour of disc.

If you can provide these details then that should help.
.


It's getting like antiques road-show around here
"Hmmm, an original Black Album vinyl edition - Oh yes, if you look here, you can see the catalogue number on the bottom, see? If it was in it's sealed wrapper, it would be worth £200, but in this condition, at auction, I would say £100, £150 for insurance purposes. But a lovely heirloom for your children, thanks for bringing it in... Next! Ah, the Goldnigga album, first pressing..."

"Yes ... now that would be worth something, Madam, but unfortunately it appears to have been signed by Tony M".
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smile
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Reply #6 posted 05/21/05 12:56pm

pkidwell

It has 15 tracks but no numbers anywhere and the disc itself looks odd. It says NPG and then right under that is says "the NEWPOWERGENERATION" upside down. The inner booklet is two pages with nothing in the middle. Thanks for your help
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Reply #7 posted 05/21/05 6:13pm

PANDURITO

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My NPGMC bought version has:

  • 15 tracks
  • A 4 panel foldout booklet with the lyrics to GoldNigga and 2Gether
  • No code numbers whatsoever
  • Golden CD with printed tracklist and,yes, the NEW POWER GENERATION upside down
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Reply #8 posted 05/22/05 2:16am

gsh

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The inner booklet is two pages with nothing in the middle. Thanks for your help
Pirate - an original has a fold out "booklet" with the lyrics to Gold Nigga on one side and 2Gether on the other.
Also, a legit 15 track version has ZOMAX OPTICAL-PLYMOUTH MN-Z10054 05651 >1005< etched on the inner ring of the disc.
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Reply #9 posted 05/22/05 5:06am

GoldiesParade

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Mine's got a hell of a nice thigh on the cover.
http://www.goldiesparade.co.uk/ - Prince discography, tour history, news and more.
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Reply #10 posted 05/23/05 8:16pm

pkidwell

Thanks.....I got a pirate version but the sound is still nice.
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Reply #11 posted 06/05/05 7:50am

jone70

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I just saw one that has 16 tracks..."Guess Who's Knockin'" which doesn't seem to be included in the other ones I've seen.
What's the story with that?
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #12 posted 06/05/05 9:26am

metalorange

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jone70 said:

I just saw one that has 16 tracks..."Guess Who's Knockin'" which doesn't seem to be included in the other ones I've seen.
What's the story with that?


It was on an early pressing. It was removed on later editions as it contains a sample of a Wings song and I guess they couldn't be bothered with all the royalty issues.
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Reply #13 posted 06/05/05 9:57am

jone70

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metalorange said:

jone70 said:

I just saw one that has 16 tracks..."Guess Who's Knockin'" which doesn't seem to be included in the other ones I've seen.
What's the story with that?


It was on an early pressing. It was removed on later editions as it contains a sample of a Wings song and I guess they couldn't be bothered with all the royalty issues.



So would the 16 track one be considered "original"? Is it more difficult to find than a 15 track album?

Also, if you look up the album on allmusic.com it lists 21 tracks:

Goldnigga, Pt. 1
Guess Who's Knocking
Oilcan
Segue
Deuce and a Quarter
Segue
Black MF in the House
Goldnigga, Pt. 2
Goldies Parade
Segue
Gether
Segue
Call the Law
Johnny
Segue
Goldnigga, Pt. 3
12 Inch Mix
Interview
Enlightenment
Jeep Mix
Instrumental

what's that all about?
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #14 posted 06/05/05 9:58am

Neversin

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pkidwell said:

I just bought one from Ebay but how can I tell if it is real and not a bootleg? Was this on NPG records?

There are two official 16 track versions (without barcode, label and manufacturing info) that have teh following in the inner ring of the discs:

Version 1: A logo of a circle with an A in it, "Disque Americ" "01S02GOLDNIGGA", under the Compact Disc logo it says "Made In Canada (This is the first pressing of the "GoldNigga" CD which was sold on various 1993 ACT II gigs in Europe and through 1-800-New Funk...)

Version 2: "MFG BY CINRAM USA NPG-GN 1019-12" (This was the second pressing sold at the NPG stores and 1-800-New Funk...)

Version 3: 15 track version that has the following in the inner ring: "ZOMAX OPTICAL-PLYMOUTH MN-Z10054 05651" (This is the third pressing that was sold online and through the NPG Stores...)

Neversin.
O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
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Reply #15 posted 06/05/05 10:00am

Neversin

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jone70 said:

Also, if you look up the album on allmusic.com it lists 21 tracks:

That's a pirate/bootleg which has the "2gether" single tacked to the end of the cd...

Neversin.
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“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

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Reply #16 posted 06/05/05 10:04am

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did someone say they have the black album on vinyl for sale????? drooling
You saw the apple
hanging on the tree,
But missed the orchid
in your gaze
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