EXACTLY.



I have always respected Bono as a performer, as well as the body of work done by U2. I also have always thought Bono was cool - & these quotes prove that to me. he comes across as being very unpretentious, something that is EXTREMELY rare among "superstars".


I also liked elbib's post - funny!

pretty much every U2 book I've looked at has Prince all up in it. U can say it's standard at this point.

musicologyphd said:

Funny you should mention Van Gogh...Bono mentions him, saying that he didn't HAVE to cut his ear off to be seen as brilliant...he already was.

As far as your comments about Bono as superficial and God's gift to charity, well...that comment was spoken like someone who knows very little of the whole story. You've formed an impression...and in my impression, it's unfair.

lilgish said:

will do.

If the post I read earlier is true...that Prince made a comment on his "Musicology" Tour to the tune of "I love U 2...but not the band" -- and if this comment suggests some kind of grudge, than I have to say as a rabid Prince fan that I take issue with his spirituality if it doesn't include FORGIVENESS, particularly for something that's not worth a grudge!

How many of us, as Prince fans, need the stamp of a Grammy to validate music as a masterpiece? Why should/does Prince need THAT? I love both U2 and Prince, and I think "Sign O The Times" is WAAAAY more innovative, important and wonderful than "The Joshua Tree" any day. Consequently, I'll take "Achtung Baby" over "Diamonds and Pearls." And so it goes...

If Prince still harbors bitterness over the 1987 Album of the Year Grammy -- and I don't think it's fair to assume that he TRULY does -- than I love Bono and U2 EVEN MORE for showing the true Christian characteristic of not having any bitterness back. In other words, I suspect that even if Prince walked around talking about how much he hates U2, Bono would still be telling everyone how awesome Prince is. I admire that. The fact is, I feel like I understand a little more now what Bono is about as a person. I admire Prince much more as a musician and artist, but have always held back on admiring him as a person. He's just been too elusive for my admiration in that area.

This could all be B.S., too. Prince may not even hate U2. And I'll still love both even if he does.


Keith/Kacey

It was propably only a not-so-clever remark to emphasis that he meant the fans, not the band.

Kacey725 said:

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I doubt he hates them. He could have been joking since he has shared a stage with Bono and gave him the scoop on the Master Tape issue

laurarichardson said:

You obviously don't know me very well and presume too much too.

kidcreole said:

you're close , I think he said "Prince could be just another song and dance man , but he's not , he so much more " . Prince really did deserve the grammy for Sign O The Times though , its full of excellent material , The Joshua Tree is 4 very good songs and the rest is just boring guff , such an over-rated album I think .

GottaLetitgo said:

Oooookay, you disliked Bono because his album beat out Prince's for an award that he had nothing to do with almost 20 years ago??!! LMAO!! You're talking as if YOU lost the award and that it was a conspiracy against you. Hopefully, your comment is all tongue-in-cheek!

alexnvrmnd said:

hey this is the org mate !!! lol

I love U2! And Bono is dead on it. Now, all I have to do is get a ticket for U2's May 7 concert here in Chicago.

U2 is only the SECOND greatest rock band in the world. (Number One? The Rolling Stones)

Prince is only the GREATEST artist (individual) in the world. I've been digging him since 1978.

Bono's an asshole. Talking about Prince like that.

alexnvrmnd said:

What happened to the right to dislike anybody anywhere at anytime for the most superficial of reasons? Is this not America? Is this not a democracy? Damn, I've disliked people for a lot less than stealing a Grammy from my favorite musician with a pretentious ridiculously overrated album.

But, as I said earlier in the thread, my therapist convnced me that my hatred stemmed not from the highway robbery that was the 1987 Grammys but rather Bono's insistence of wearing sunglasses that are way too big for his face.

I will not defend this anymore. I'm shallow, damn it! So sue me.

I mean, look at those damn things. Are they prescription? Is the sun that bright in Ireland? What is he trying to hide?

BananaCologne said:

Tou frickin' che

I like U2.They are a good band & still do great shows. Bono always have a way with words & he definitely respects Prince. I like when other muscians give props to another even if they both may not share the same thoughts.

laurarichardson said:

NO MORE LARRY - the guy is still in the paisley park system, he should be banned for life !!!

well i think prince should have won r&b duo (screw aretha & george michael) & rnb song. U2 deserved album of the year cause they sold more copies than sing o the time.

im a fan of both U2 & prince & they are my rock idols

8up said:

Spot on. Bono's alright, but his comment just shows him that he is himself accustomed to making marketable products only. U2 has no doubt experimented during their career, but Prince just pretty much does what he wants. He rarely makes compromises (he does to a certain extent from time to time, but he is the closest thing to an underground musician the mainstream market has ever seen - even moreso than i.e. Beck). If Prince wants to make a silly commercial sounding track, like "Silly Game", he does it because that's the type of music he wants to make. When he's not compromising, he's not compromising in any directions.

Spot on! Novabreaker's comments show that he's very wise!

cabrao said:

- Ok, Larry joined Prince in the worst era of his career (the 97-2000 years)...but in the recent years, Prince´s music has been great again. It wasn´t Larry´s fault...Prince was uninspired at that time.

GREAT...never been a bono or u2 fan before this moment...u got a good head on your shoulders mr bono !!!

Since Prince based his whole career on not having an editor, it would be a big change for him if he had to deal with someone truly deserving of that title, i.e. someone who can veto stuff. I can't think of anyone who could do that effectively, given Prince's ego, history and intimidating talents. Thinking he could use an editor is not knowing him very well as well as disregarding the essence of his career, which is creative freedom. There are also practical reasons - few people can actually keep up with Prince. When you are prone to recording everything yourself in the middle of the night, you tend to be captain of your own ship for obvious reasons. What Prince can use and has used... is collaborators that are not afraid to speak out. He has benefited from surrounding himself with creative, knowledgeable musicians that have influenced his music and his taste.

At the end, Prince would not be half as celebrated if he had employed genuine coproducers consistently. Look at Madonna and how people believe she owes everything to her producers. For better and for worse, Prince is entirely responsbile for the records he released, and that will be an important consideration when all is said and done and it's time to say who truly expressed himself as an artist in our time..
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lilgish said:

you're right on the money with that one lilgish

Aerogram said:

Thank you. I'd hate for someone to try and edit my paintings. You have to take the good with the bad-- that's life. Besides, what some call bad others love. If it were up to me NPS wouldn't exist but some folks swear by it (losers ).

TheFrog said:[
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well, okay then, but i think it's unfair to point to W&L (or Prince for hanging with W&L) as being the sole reason for the drop in sales post-Purple Rain. A large reason for the drop in sales was that neither ATWIAD nor Parade were musically "other Purple Rains". And in terms of quality, ATWIAD and Parade are right up there among his best.

musicology is a nice, safe pop record, you're right. i doubt that people would be raving about the tunes if they'd gone elsewhere, though. it's hard to say - sometimes other people do prince's songs better than he does himself.

won't catch me bitching about TRC. lyrically, it's irritating at times (and offensive at times) but musically it's totally outstanding on the whole.

but i agree to some extent - W&L certainly don't make the world go around. But they did have a hand in some of the greatest music our little fella's ever released.


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C'mon now. ATWIAD is nowhere near PR or Parade in terms of quality.

I suspect those that feel he NEEDS W&L never really liked Prince to begin with. It's fine to miss them. Hell, sometimes I wish they would hook up again just for old time's sake and see what they could come up with. There's a difference though.

8up said:

Stephen King does have editors. Try again.

whodknee said:

im going to agree with everything you've just said (except for the highlighted part..hehehehe.

and your statement about the three of them working together..i hate how people say, "oh..been there, done that"....and i guess they say it because prince himself has made comments to that effect in the past.

but, these people have grown musically.....i think it would be earth shattering to hear what they can come up with today. one song. just one song would please me.

all three are geniuses in their own right.....and nobody should ever deny synergy like that.