Its interesting that some people think that "editing" Prince is a wholly bad thing. Personally, I think that if he comes out with stuff that sounds different and new (eg - no bass on When Doves Cry) then he should be left alone. Some things work, some things don't.

Where he DOES need editing is on the work that is just plain dull (most of Musicality for example). Its kind of difficult to get excited about some of that stuff. Get thee back to the studio!!!!!

When you listen to the Black album, lot of Sign Of The Times, hell even Batman tonnes of stuff on there just does not sound like anything else - noises, production etc.... Nowadays I think that a guitar sounds too much like a guitar, drums sound too much like drums, keyboards sound like the same ole same ole. Its hard to explain but...anyway, I hope you don't all hate me for these comments!!! (...maybe a few pwople will even understand!)

GoldiesParade said:

He had that with Wendy and Lisa, flame if you want, but it's true.

Bono just wishes he were a rock star. Funny, because at one time he was.....then he opened his mouth. I like Bono and U2, and he might see some of phil lynott in prince, but bono is about as interesting as Britney spears now. You can't be corporate and be prince at the same time.

lilgish said:

can i use that last line as my new sig?

And with these remarks, my long-standing hatred for Bono comes to an end. I have hated U2 and Bono since 1987, when the greatest travesty in the history of the Grammy's occurred, namely Sign O' The Times losing to The Joshua Tree. Okay, I knew it was going to happen but damn it, that was Prince's shot at the best album, his most ambitious album to date (and still). Seeing Prince jilted in the audience as those wankers went up on stage pissed me off to no end. (And to paraphrase the man, Prince could do what U2 did on The Joshua Tree but they could not do Housequake). Anyway I have always thought of Bono as a pretentious, moronic airbag bastard since then (even though I did dig Achtung Baby) but now, I will forgive him.

Bono's respect for the man is obvious and heart-felt and I think his comments are dead on. And I agree that Prince has needed an editor from time to time but with Prince getting the final veto power. There are things that he has done that an outsider (i.e. someone who doesn't live in his purple brain) might have knocked down that turned out to be absolutely genius. There are also experiements that Prince has had that have fallen flat on their ass. Whether there is anybody out there who could have been able to tell the difference is the question.

GottaLetitgo said:

If an artist winning or losing a fake award bothers you this much for so you long you have severe issues. But I'm sure Bono will appreciate you forgiving him

GottaLetitgo said:

You felt that strongly about him for all this time JUST because of that? That wasn't hatred, that was a grudge!

That aside, I find it ironic that all this time Bono held him in high regard and P was the one shooting his mouth off back then acting like a petulant child with that moronic quote. I always thought that was one of the lamest things he ever said - not to mention more than a little childish.

Still, times change eh.

laurarichardson said:

That sentence makes as much sense as the statement you were TRYING to make The truth hurts dear laura.

Its interesting that some people think that "editing" Prince is a wholly bad thing. Personally, I think that if he comes out with stuff that sounds different and new (eg - no bass on When Doves Cry) then he should be left alone. Some things work, some things don't.

Where he DOES need editing is on the work that is just plain dull (most of Musicality for example). Its kind of difficult to get excited about some of that stuff. Get thee back to the studio!!!!!

When you listen to the Black album, lot of Sign Of The Times, hell even Batman tonnes of stuff on there just does not sound like anything else - noises, production etc.... Nowadays I think that a guitar sounds too much like a guitar, drums sound too much like drums, keyboards sound like the same ole same ole. Its hard to explain but...anyway, I hope you don't all hate me for these comments!!! (...maybe a few pwople will even understand!)

DiamondGirl said:

you need to head over to housequake or to our associated artist section and read the statements from people like dez, jesse, morris, andre and dr. fink. you would be suprised to find out which songs and which quitar riffs or synth riffs are contributed to people *other* then prince...

and when i state my pleasure with wendy and lisa's contributions to prince's legacy, its not a negative..its positive energy..

its negative energy for someone to respond back that wendy and lisa suck.

but i know you know that. your just trying to be a smart ass now arent you?

...W&L alienated P's RnB fan base.
Witness the drop-off in sales on ATWIAD and Parade...

laurarichardson said:

you really think W&L are the reason for the drop in sales?

DiamondGirl said:

lol.. i think ur being selective - picking out a 10 year segment, and it would be to assume that over that whole 10 years prince did all his expression without music and didn't release any music whatsoever - which is obviously not true... i said 'over the whole course' it 'would be fair to say' that he has done 'most' of his expression through music. - thats not selective in the slightest.. thats encompassing
[Edited 4/28/05 15:27pm]

Editor- Hey man, you need to put some bass on "When Doves Cry."
Prince- Ok.


I don't see it happening. He's like Stephen King, no ones editing him.

musicologyphd said:

Its all right musciologyphd! Relax! We've been given the all clear. We can take our thumbs out of our butts and take a chill pill. Oh and look over there in Sudan! Do you see what I see? A mother and child have just been killed by a militia. Now there's something worth expanding passionate energy on, don't you think?

TheFrog said:

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I think they were responsible for some of the drop in sales. P is responsible as well he let them do a lot of the work on those two CD's.

I think W&L are talented as side people. I by know means think they are at P's level as showman or having a grasp on popular music. Maybe they don't want to have grasp on popular music. Let's be honest their post P work has not exactly flown off the music store racks. Sales are not everything but at some point you do have sale records and if you don't over a long period of time maybe the public is not feeling your music.

You guys bitch the Musicology is so awful but let's be honest it is a nice safe pop record and if P gave some of those songs to other artist everybody would be raving about how great they are.

P does his non-commercial stuff i.e NEWS and TRC and people bitch he puts out something commercial people bitch. Failing to realize that he knows how to play the music game. Sell some records and still maintain some integrity as an artist.
[Edited 4/29/05 5:27am]

laurarichardson said:

well, okay then, but i think it's unfair to point to W&L (or Prince for hanging with W&L) as being the sole reason for the drop in sales post-Purple Rain. A large reason for the drop in sales was that neither ATWIAD nor Parade were musically "other Purple Rains". And in terms of quality, ATWIAD and Parade are right up there among his best.

musicology is a nice, safe pop record, you're right. i doubt that people would be raving about the tunes if they'd gone elsewhere, though. it's hard to say - sometimes other people do prince's songs better than he does himself.

won't catch me bitching about TRC. lyrically, it's irritating at times (and offensive at times) but musically it's totally outstanding on the whole.

but i agree to some extent - W&L certainly don't make the world go around. But they did have a hand in some of the greatest music our little fella's ever released.


[Edited 4/29/05 6:15am]

tony50 said:

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I lot of people on this board don't understand that a lot of stuff P did would never have come out if he had a producer. He does things that suck but, he is going to be the one responsible for the good and the bad. He can never blame a producer for a CD bombing or during well.

He is his on man and you got to respect that in a industry filled with artist who nothing more than a producer's toy or pet project for the moment.

Some of you may want to also check you hatred on RnB music.

laurarichardson said:

RnB blows today. Anyone hating it is not that far off base. The majority (that means most - not all) of RnB and hip hop are cultural and muscial poison

Bono's respect for the man is obvious and heart-felt and I think his comments are dead on. And I agree that Prince has needed an editor from time to time but with Prince getting the final veto power. There are things that he has done that an outsider (i.e. someone who doesn't live in his purple brain) might have knocked down that turned out to be absolutely genius. There are also experiements that Prince has had that have fallen flat on their ass. Whether there is anybody out there who could have been able to tell the difference is the question.