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Reply #30 posted 04/12/05 8:54am

Novabreaker

ufoclub said:

Just the monsterous loop noise in Le Grind is AS funky. now add the bass line and the electronic drums... wait what about the low synth bass hook in Rockhard? These details are so original, and so funky.


I didn't say "funky", I said "funk". Yeah, sure - many of the cuts on "The Black Album" probably have a more infectuous groove than "Prettyman" does varying from listener to listener. However, whenever an expression such as "true" is used in conjunction with a musical genre, especially in a denotative sense (as in calling something a bit more left-of-the-field "TR000" or whatever) the alarm bells should be already ringing.
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Reply #31 posted 04/12/05 10:34am

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In my opinion, when people are listening to the radio and hear Prince doing some track in the JB-vain, they think, hey, this sounds quite funky, but they will never feel dared to find out who they were listening to, let alone 'buy it'.

I mean, i really think Prince makes the most impact with funk tracks that are original, have something 'special', some sparkle that makes you think: Hey, this is some original, funky track, lets find out who it is. Some examples:
- Automatic
- Erotic City
- Girls and Boys
- U got the Look
- Lovesexy
- Billy Jack Bitch
- I rock, therefore i am
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Reply #32 posted 04/12/05 11:00am

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Novabreaker said
MJ fans, aren't they so lovely when explicating on the essence of true funk... Gotta love'em.
[Edited 4/11/05 1:28am]


Ummm.....since u havent heard Jackson 5's "Git It Together" "Dancin Machine" the first 3 albums, plus "Looking Through The Windows" and tell me that they aint got no funk in it (b4 Prince was funkin it big time anyway) then u aint got no more 2 say.
Tell me "Shake Ya Body.." aint funky!!! Tell me "Workin Day & Night" aint funk! MJ's been funkin it up for many years b4 Prince, though he may not have been after Thriller but man, dont u dare say MJ never funked it up b4 with the brothers disbelief

Michael show me "How Funky Is Yo Chicken" from 'Third Album' dancing jig
[Edited 4/12/05 11:02am]
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Reply #33 posted 04/12/05 11:18am

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Novabreaker said:

destinyismine said:



Hey let's not start trippin'. Sure prettyman is a funny song but it surely doesn't surpass the genius of the Black Album.
jedi


The "genius" that was left unreleased, let's face it, because it was quite substandard compared to his output from the previous years. "Dead On It" was just as embarrassing now as it was first when Prince was still playing it back straight out of the preamps of his console. Sure, "The Black Album" might be cooler than anything Prince put out in the 90s or maybe anything he put out after making it, I just detest that people associate "coolness" so outrightly with plain silly childishness.


Looks like someone totally missed the point of that song. It's supposed to sound the way it does. It's a funny jab at rap.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #34 posted 04/12/05 11:55am

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dag said:

I love Prettyman - best song on the Rave album.


quite possibly! I have to think about that one.
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Reply #35 posted 04/12/05 12:15pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Novabreaker said
MJ fans, aren't they so lovely when explicating on the essence of true funk... Gotta love'em.
[Edited 4/11/05 1:28am]


Ummm.....since u havent heard Jackson 5's "Git It Together" "Dancin Machine" the first 3 albums, plus "Looking Through The Windows" and tell me that they aint got no funk in it (b4 Prince was funkin it big time anyway) then u aint got no more 2 say.
Tell me "Shake Ya Body.." aint funky!!! Tell me "Workin Day & Night" aint funk! MJ's been funkin it up for many years b4 Prince, though he may not have been after Thriller but man, dont u dare say MJ never funked it up b4 with the brothers disbelief

Michael show me "How Funky Is Yo Chicken" from 'Third Album' dancing jig
[Edited 4/12/05 11:02am]


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Schooled at Motown, further education via TSOP, graduated on Epic.

It's all good. biggrin
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Reply #36 posted 04/12/05 12:51pm

SexyBeautifulO
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I like it as a hidden track.

Without being a surprise, I don't think it would have made as big of an impression.

So much of its charm comes from being a joke and a secret.


I agree! I totally loved the surprise factor of it!
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Reply #37 posted 04/12/05 12:57pm

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PurpleKnight said:

Novabreaker said:



The "genius" that was left unreleased, let's face it, because it was quite substandard compared to his output from the previous years. "Dead On It" was just as embarrassing now as it was first when Prince was still playing it back straight out of the preamps of his console. Sure, "The Black Album" might be cooler than anything Prince put out in the 90s or maybe anything he put out after making it, I just detest that people associate "coolness" so outrightly with plain silly childishness.


Looks like someone totally missed the point of that song. It's supposed to sound the way it does. It's a funny jab at rap.


even worse, it looks like some people missed the point of Prettyman.
Its a funny jab at Prince and its funky as hell
If you will, so will I
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Reply #38 posted 04/12/05 5:33pm

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nothing before Black ALbum was better in my opinion, and, nothing since, it is still my favorite prince album. I only really took notice of prince as an artist as opposed to a pop star, and was inspired to start producing music and sound effects after I heard the BLack ALbum. It remains the most cohesive and solid song sequence he has put out, and Bob George alone creatively strips away other stuff he's done (He is painting a bare bones focussed narrative, in the voice of another character, and manages to self deprecate all over himself). It is simply sick in a good way. As a concept with its simple peach and black fonts with no name, no artist mentioned... it is simply brilliant and deep. sometimes the best art comes out of negative emotions.This was when we had "Like A Prayer" or "Bad" as to compare what the other superstars were doing. Prince was and is still a creative force that makes me drop my jaw. and I really think the Black ALbum is a peak so far.


Novabreaker said:

destinyismine said:



Hey let's not start trippin'. Sure prettyman is a funny song but it surely doesn't surpass the genius of the Black Album.
jedi


The "genius" that was left unreleased, let's face it, because it was quite substandard compared to his output from the previous years. "Dead On It" was just as embarrassing now as it was first when Prince was still playing it back straight out of the preamps of his console. Sure, "The Black Album" might be cooler than anything Prince put out in the 90s or maybe anything he put out after making it, I just detest that people associate "coolness" so outrightly with plain silly childishness.
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Reply #39 posted 04/14/05 7:59am

Novabreaker

PurpleKnight said:


Looks like someone totally missed the point of that song. It's supposed to sound the way it does. It's a funny jab at rap.


confused Yes. I thought so too when I was still, like, 14 years old myself.
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Reply #40 posted 04/14/05 1:32pm

Eroticist

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Prince's best comical song about himself is EASILY AND STILL "Movie Star"...way more clever than "Pretty Man"
Desire, it covers our faces
It happens in curious places
Your body, it covers my tower
Ecstasy is ours
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