great review

i love this album

Uptown is prolly my fave

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I also always thought it was a gunshot at the end of side 1. As for why it doesn't really sound like one, it's a demo!

You did it well. Oh yes. Great review. Sagittarius powa in da place

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

My gawd that's morbid. I've listened to this album a hundred times and never once did it sound like a gun firing. It's always sounded like a door shutting and locking to me.

Great review!

I know people disagree. But this is my favorite album.

I never considered, what I thought to be a gun shot, it being a door slam. I think you sold me on that.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

That's interesting. Never once did it sound like a door slamming to me.

why must DM keep bearing comparisons to Controversy?


Of all listeners, the supposedly experienced ones know that we might pick our favorites, but each album is remarkably different.

But I may be biased, cause i appreciate a DM way more than Contro...
Its a brilliant work-- cohesive and very much a themed work, just as much of his other albums tend to be.

But we're all entitled, i guess....



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sextonseven said:

I thought it sounds like someone throwing something into a trash can... but maybe thats just my imagination.

IT'S

A

DOOR

SLAMMING.

End of story.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I've gone on and on before about the sheer joy and musical genius of the way these two songs are paired together. It goes a little something like this:

Sister just grabs your attention with the insistent, punkish guitar and half-whispered vocals at the beginning. Once you figure out that this dude really is singing about what the fuck you thought he was singing about the song is kicking your ass up, down and sideways. As soon as you're sucked in and the song is climaxing (ohhhmuthafucka's'justamuthafuckacan'tyouunderstand!!) and you're wanting more (it's so wrong but it feels so right!) he leaves you hanging with those final whooping screams (ohhhhh sister! ohhhhh!) and it's over. Just like that. But wait - you can't even mourn the loss, because without giving you a chance to catch a breath, Partyup comes swaggering in and you can't even remember what just happened. The bassline has transfixed your senses and your booty. We don't give a damn, uh, we just wanna jam, partyup. That "uh" alone has hypnotic power, sucking you in. But the point when you really get that these songs have taken control of you is when the bottom first drops out on got to party down, babe/revolutionary rock 'n roll. Your ass involuntarily drops down to the floor and swings back up, and know you're just done. Give up, give in, 'cause we don't wanna fight no more!

...and I'm spent.

FunkMistress said:

and scene.

JediMaster said:

My ...

I tell ya, I've said this time and time again. When someone listens to an album like DM well after it's release, it's a bit daunting for them to find it groundbreaking when so many copycats have come out with their version(s) well afterwards. It takes the in-your-face-do-it-like-I-wanna attitude away from it. Therefore, the newbie tends to miss the whole point.



By the way, nice review, HCFS. Spot on...

I havent played this one in a while but your review was so entertaining I might
pull it out

makes me glad I was a teen during the Dirty Mind era..

no offense young ones..but if u were there ..u'd know what we "old folks" were talking about...

I've been listening to this album in the car a lot lately,
and I finally managed to sit through "Gotta Broken Heart",
for the first time in oh, 17 years lol.

It was one of the very select few Prince songs left that
I could not stand to listen to. Now, as always with them
kind of songs, it turned into a favorit.

But I have to say, since about 2 months this album, since
it's getting so much promotion for YOU, had been growing
on me. Indeed, it became one of my favorites very quickly
after I was able to digest it completely without skipping
a single song [my only condition for a Prince album being
titled "very very good indeed"].

In hindsight, much more so than the 1987 double album of
the same name, thís album was a true "Sign O The Times".
In a time when there were still boundaries to break and
envelopes to push in the world of music, Prince touched
upon a lot of those boundaries with this record.

It must have been so incredibly provoking and shocking at
that time in the US.

In fact, just how shocking Prince's music must have been
to audiences in the US, didn't fully hit me until I saw
one of those vintage "Oprah" shows from 1987, the year
Prince released the Black Album. It was a show about HIV
and AIDS and just listening to what people were telling
about sexuality and relationships, made me realise that
contrary to the message Prince was spreading, the crowds
on the street were laregely still unaware of such free
and liberated thoughts.

Funny though, how an old Oprah show finally hit it home
that his message and envelope pusshing was so much more
than just a catchphrase, but indeed a movement of it's
very own accord.

It made me appreciate his having the balls to cut an lp
raw and rough like "Dirty Mind" a thousand times more
than I had ever done before.

Now, I listen to "Head" with a renewed enthousiasm, and
a nasty grin across my face, knowing that whatever the
skanks and self-proclaimed pimps of today's popmusic may
throw our way regarding "daring" or "explicit" stuff,
they will never have or indeed need to have an ounce of
Prince's guts to do what they do.

Genre pushing and genre defying nastyness will forever be
kidstuff after the way the old pioneers, among which
Prince himself, paved the way and broke the music free
for self-expression on an unprecedented scale.

Bow down motherfucker, indeed, cuz here comes "Dirty Mind"
and it roars with a brachiosaural passion.

stand up, step back.

'When U Were Mine' revealed Prince to be the black Beatle

IstenSzek said:

this thread can end now.....nothing more 2 add

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

and there it be.

great songs and albums to need to be analyzed or justified. the fact that anyone feels the need to do both shows that the work itself may be lacking. there is nothing to get or not get. either you like it or you don't, but neither of those options have to do with any level of "understanding" of the work.

I like dirty mind, and I disagree with every word written in this review. I like it because it is good music. so, how could I like it and not get it.

dumbass said:

you spent your time readin my stuff and said all that merely to be the odd man out here, didnt'cha?

dumbass said:

Okay, I broke out my SenseFinder 3000 for this one, and it blew up.

Great review. The album was definately rebellious and also Prince in his first "fuck you" mode. Everything thing from the music, all pictures and artwork on the album, the mattress springs on the cover, the band looking like they are in a police line up, and also the raggedy typewriter font on the inside sleeve, add a sleaziness to the album as well.

I love your part about "Partyup" sounding like it was setting up a "To Be Continued" mood for the next album, "Controversy". I never would have thought about that but you are absolutely right.

I always thought it sounded like a jail cell door slamming.

vainandy said:

Hey VAIN!!!! It's been a while....

MidnightFunk said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

not at all. I like Dirty Mind, I just think it doesn't need to be analyzed. it's good. any "personal" interpretation of the work is just that..."personal" and doesn't neccessarily refelct the work itself.

my main gripe is with the defense that if you don't like it you just don't get it. there's nothing to get. of all of Prince's work, this is one of the least deep in meaning.

FunkMistress said:

anyone who needs a sense finder probably doesn't have the sense to operate it anyhow. I'm not sure how more simplistic I can make my argument.

dumbass said:

Signing it "from dumbass" should do the trick.

love

Dansa, eye really njoyed ur review (especially the aspect covering rebellion). Thank u 4 sharing...

love

I agree with some of what you say here. Although, i would argue that artists (particularly the successful ones) are expected by society to represent something which society at large is not. Artists and their statements are idependent from societal stricture by default. Thus, Prince walking around MPLS in his G-string singing how he fucked his sister is generally 'tolerated' (for want of a better word) by society more than if my father was to do the same. The message of both men is exactly the same, but Prince's stardom provides just a sense of 'distance' between both society and artist for them to mutually exist. In the mid-nineties, Prince often stepped out looking like a transvestite who put that shit on in the dark. However, society accepted it as 'thats just crazy Prince being Prince'. But, i i walked out in my neighbourhood wearing the same, i am not sure i would survive the day. So, princes daring must be questioned considering the security blanket that fame provides. is Princes Dirty Mind album more daring in 1980 than an ordinary member of society who was openly practising transvestitism in the same year?