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Reply #90 posted 02/24/05 12:32pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

MetroArea said:

He's already high..... on Jesus.


barf



There are worse things!


Yeah, he could be high on Jehovah.





..... oh, wait neutral
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Reply #91 posted 02/24/05 12:54pm

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I'm way too late to this thread but I think drugs would spark a musical revolution. His music nowadays definitely feels like he's bored or uninspired. Drugs would get his creative juices flowing like mad.
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Reply #92 posted 02/24/05 12:57pm

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JediMaster said:

Its also rumoured that he was doing some light experimentation with drugs during the Come/Exodus/Gold era. Nothing too heavy, just pot, acid and whatnot. Don't know if its true, but it would certainly explain a few things!


Nothing too heavy!? Acid?! LSD is very heavy. I'd absolutely love to hear what he'd come up with while trippin nod
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Reply #93 posted 02/24/05 2:39pm

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People who are making statements about how drugs make you super creative have never had any real education about drugs. It is a generalization that drugs "make you creative". After a while,people who take drugs habitually don't really function well enough to maintain any creativity. Also, I assume a lot of you have been with people while they are high (or been high yourselves). It's about the farthest thing from actually being creative. At the time, everything seems genius-then you wake up the next morning and you look at what you thought was the fruit of your drug induced "creativity" and it is shit stains and incoherent scribbling.
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Reply #94 posted 02/24/05 3:08pm

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this fucken site has gone so downhill it aint funny
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Reply #95 posted 02/24/05 3:09pm

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origmnd said:

this fucken site has gone so downhill it aint funny


funny enough to keep you coming back! razz
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Reply #96 posted 02/24/05 5:44pm

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Anxiety said:

origmnd said:

this fucken site has gone so downhill it aint funny


funny enough to keep you coming back! razz


Get over it!! This site's namesake is what keeps us coming back, nothing more, nothing less. Ask Ben to just call it The Org and see what happens!
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Reply #97 posted 02/24/05 5:49pm

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vainandy said:

Some of the best music has definately been made by people that were on drugs. I remember in 1985, when Rick James told the press he was off of drugs (probably only for the moment lol ) and he released the album "Glow". People everywhere were hollering....."Somebody, please get this man some drugs!!!!" lol

As far as Prince goes, I've often wondered if he actually did experiment in the earlier days.

I realize we're joking here and this post is not to be taken seriously, but hell, drugs probably might get Prince out of this hole he's been in for years.


I really wish he would experiment a bit. As soon as Metallica sobered up, their music tanked.

Sex, drugs, and rock n' roll.
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Reply #98 posted 02/24/05 5:50pm

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vainandy said:



Amen! Here I am! That was me! I went strictly for the hits.


As did 99% of the audience members.
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Reply #99 posted 02/24/05 5:52pm

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gsh said:

I made a similar observation not so long ago at HQ - not sure if drugs are the answer, but P definitely needs some kind of demons to fight to start his creative juices flowing again. He's too bloody content by half - spiritually and emotionally, and it's BORING! His last great creative phase was 93-95 when he was wrangling with WB - no idea if he partook of any recreational pharmaceuticals during this period, but his troubles helped him make great music. Before that it was Black/Lovesexy period when it's rumoured of he was experimenting with Ecstacy, and that seemed to work out fine!
He's going into middle age all fluffy and happy and content to rest on his laurels and emulate his musical heros rather than be groundbreaking and forge a musical legacy. Great artists need some angst to fuel the creative drive, and he no longer has that.



I agree 100%.
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Reply #100 posted 02/24/05 5:55pm

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Mindflux said:

Great thread and some great comments!

Personally, I'd love to hear a Prince album inspired by an LSD/mushroom experience - it would be totally off the wall and astonishing, I suspect.

I also beleive that he has experimented (or,rather, dabbled) in the past and I think you can hear that sometimes in his music. I've listened to lots of him music whilst, shall we say, inspired by one chemical or another and there are some tunes where you hear such detail and references that you think he must have been out of it when making that!

All the best music I listen to was created by known drug-users - I don't believe its a short-cut (as someone here suggested), just a new door with a new path behind it.


I wish Prince would take that path. I'm not interested in the "user-friendly" Prince.
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Reply #101 posted 02/24/05 5:57pm

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Heiress said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



Nah, I think he'd be able to hang. He'd probably hit that studio and produce something wicked.


Or it might make him itchy all over, wandering around shopping malls babbling...


At least he'll do SOMETHING interesting.
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Reply #102 posted 02/24/05 5:58pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

I can't believe that people actually think it would be a good thing if Prince did drugs!

Normally, I would rant, curse and tell you all where to go! This time I won't, I will just leave you with two words that will hopefully make it crystal clear to you how bad of an idea that is!


Whitney Houston!!!


There's a difference between recreational use and abuse.
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Reply #103 posted 02/24/05 6:05pm

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Dissonance said:

This is the dumbest. stupidest thing I have every seen on this website!

Not only is it inacurate and uninforfomed. It is totally irisponsible!!!!!
Do you realize that there are impressionable, unexperience kids on this website!!!

Even many who are open to recreational, or monitored drug experimentation realise that there are deadly risk with this and minors should not be expossed to it. Why would you throw this out like drugs are candy or something? This is not the place for this type of discussion. There are adult sites for discussing somethinmg like this.

Lets take a look at the artist who have experimented with drug use and where its taken them!

Elvis addicted to "Prescription drugs" - Embassessing pot belly - Depression - Death!

Jimi Hendrix - Couldn't manage his career or money - Poor live performances -Death (He made more money after his death, then when he was alive.)

Louis Armstrong - OD
Charlie Parker - OD
Billy Holiday - OD

How about bands who desentigrated becasue of drugs?

Nirvana
Van Halen
Motley Crue
The Doors
Led Zepplin

Do I need to go further? Someone help me remember some more. Lets list everyone we know who ruined their career or OD'd beacause of drugs!


Then maybe we should also list all the great music that has been created over the years BECAUSE OF drug use.

By the way, how many "kids" do you think visit this site?
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Reply #104 posted 02/24/05 6:13pm

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skywalker said:




It's not that I don't want to see your reasons. I am interested-send me an orgnote.

Maybe when you learn how to discuss thread topics and not those who post them.

That's your problem-because it does. 1+1+1=3 IS the MPLS sound.

Even if that's true, does that make it good?

This thread is starting to reveal how people feel about recreational drug use more than how they feel about Prince.

It's still in the right direction. Almost every post is relevant.

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Reply #105 posted 02/24/05 6:14pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:




How do you know the people that I mentioned didn't start out using in what you term as "responsible moderation"? Besides the artists I mentioned did use more than just coke, heroin, etc. They were weed smokers, and drinkers and pill poppers also. What you are suggesting is absurd on so many levels.


You're free to that opinion.
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Reply #106 posted 02/24/05 6:56pm

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I hope he never takes drugs 2 satisfy your curiosity.

Well I hope he does.

Drugs is not the solution and 2 even suggest he try it IMHO is sick. I have family members on crack and this whole thread suggesting that he try drugs really hurts.

Tell them "Crack is Wack." thumbs up!

I look at my love ones and what crack has done 2 them and 2 hear some of u suggest he try these drugs is unbelievable.

Well certainly no one is suggesting he smokes crack.

Look around and see what drugs have done 2 our people.

It's helped produce some great music.

Some can handle it and some can’t.

Survival of the fittest, baby.

If u don’t care 4 his music then listen 2 what turns u on.

I already do that. But I have the right to criticize and suggest new ideas.

I’m a black woman

Congratulations. How's that working out for ya?

and I love the fact that he’s not on drugs. So many of my people r dead and messed up behind the same DRUGS u feel may enhance his music or give it a boost 4 your own personal music pleasure.

If they can't be responsible, fuck em.

Maybe its ok 4 u but u have no idea what type of effect it may have on him. Maybe P tried drugs and didn’t like the feeling.

If that's the case, then he shouldn't. But he could at least drink absinthe foir a while.

Dissonance u have made such an important statement about young kids being on this web site. There r young kids today that look up 2 people like P and 2 think they r suggesting he try using drugs 4 there musical pleasure is so unbelievable.

Well, believe it.

It’s a shame this thread has lasted this long.

Meanwhile, you're contributing to it. evillol

How would one of u like 4 your kids or love ones who are into music or whatever 2 experiment with drugs, because someone believe they can do something better under the influence.

Free will.

It's the abuse of drugs that's the problem.


Evil u said u started a thread similar 2 this and it was locked, well I can see why!

Yeah, because some people like to jack threads and begin personal assaults.

U r out of line and need 2 go and play the music u like and leave it at that.

You gonna put me on time out, mommy?

Please don’t tell me anything about drugs.

LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) is one of the major drugs making up the hallucinogen class. LSD was discovered in 1938 and is one of the most potent mood-changing chemicals. It is manufactured from lysergic acid, which is found in ergot, a fungus that grows on rye and other grains.

Some can handle it and some can’t and I diffidently don’t need my musical hero 2 live up 2 your expectations and try using drugs that he can easily get hooked on.

Why do you seem so threatened?

If this were 2 happen u would be the first 2 sit back and laugh and talk shit about how weak he is 2 let drugs control him.

No, I'd find him weak if he allowed himself to be "controlled" by drugs.

Please, I hope no one get on me about my statement because this is a touchy subject 4 me.

Well you certainly got on US about OUR statements.

What I’m going thru 2 day with my family behind some sick ass drugs that started out as fun that turned into addition is nothing nice.

Sucks that they caused their family pain, but they should have known better.

I read this thread just 2 see where it was going and I’m shocked 2 see how people really feel about his music and him incorporating drugs into it.

If you don't like it, check out the NPGMC.

Evil! Another thing, just because Musicology is more R&B don’t knock his genius ability 2 get wild.

He hasn't been wild in years.

He’s already proven and shown the world what he is capable of doing. He’s the master and can satisfy your musical needs at any given moment.

Now that's a scary statement.


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Reply #107 posted 02/24/05 6:57pm

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disbelief I'd rather have P put out a million crappy jazz albums than to see him OD.

once again people, buying his new stuff is optional
I doubt that he cares about whether he loses a few 80's fanatics
doing what he feels is right


OD on shrooms?

evillol

Now that would be comical.
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Reply #108 posted 02/24/05 6:59pm

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MetroArea said:

He's already high..... on Jesus.


barf



He's high on Larry G.
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Reply #109 posted 02/24/05 7:19pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I'm way too late to this thread but I think drugs would spark a musical revolution. His music nowadays definitely feels like he's bored or uninspired. Drugs would get his creative juices flowing like mad.


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Reply #110 posted 02/24/05 8:08pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

SexyBeautifulOne said:

I can't believe that people actually think it would be a good thing if Prince did drugs!

Normally, I would rant, curse and tell you all where to go! This time I won't, I will just leave you with two words that will hopefully make it crystal clear to you how bad of an idea that is!


Whitney Houston!!!


There's a difference between recreational use and abuse.


disbelief

Users think so anyway. rolleyes

Ask someone in recovery about that!
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Reply #111 posted 02/24/05 8:16pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

I can't believe that people actually think it would be a good thing if Prince did drugs!

Normally, I would rant, curse and tell you all where to go! This time I won't, I will just leave you with two words that will hopefully make it crystal clear to you how bad of an idea that is!


Whitney Houston!!!


Even drugs couldn't give little miss goodie two shoes rhythm. She's been hopeless from day one.
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Reply #112 posted 02/24/05 8:22pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



There's a difference between recreational use and abuse.


disbelief

Users think so anyway. rolleyes

Ask someone in recovery about that!


Not everyone who plays with drugs develops a problem with them.
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Reply #113 posted 02/24/05 8:42pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

SexyBeautifulOne said:



disbelief

Users think so anyway. rolleyes

Ask someone in recovery about that!


Not everyone who plays with drugs develops a problem with them.


Another user's argument. Who are you trying to convince us or yourself?
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Reply #114 posted 02/24/05 9:49pm

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funny enough to keep you coming back! razz


Get over it!! This site's namesake is what keeps us coming back, nothing more, nothing less. Ask Ben to just call it The Org and see what happens!


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Reply #115 posted 02/24/05 10:52pm

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"Maybe when you learn how to discuss thread topics and not those who post them."

Apparently you cannot get in depth about his music. I asked you to orgnote me so you could discuss what in his music is missing and you avoid it. Communicating in private doesn't give you enough attention does it? This thread relates directly to you---you are the guy who thinks Prince should do drugs to make EWM happy.


"Even if that's true, does that make it good?"

I've said it several times to you. You are the one who want Prince to get "back to his roots". I pointed out to you that a song, you claim to distain, 1+1+1=3 IS the MPLS sound--his roots. You've set up a whole thread (twice) about how you think the man should do drugs. You want him to get creative like "the good ol' days." He has revisited the MPLS sound in several instances lately, but you have failed to notice. Maybe it's not his sound you want to change, but his attitude? I don't know. I asked you give some insight about why a person would invest so much time in an artist he has hated for 10 years, but you refuse. You don't want to discuss it. Too busy trying to be "the rebel" of prince.org??? smile

"It's still in the right direction. Almost every post is relevant."

Yeah this is a good thread. No complaints.
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Reply #116 posted 02/24/05 11:14pm

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trying to be "the rebel" of prince.org??? smile


word on that.
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Reply #117 posted 02/24/05 11:54pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

thekidsgirl said:

disbelief I'd rather have P put out a million crappy jazz albums than to see him OD.

once again people, buying his new stuff is optional
I doubt that he cares about whether he loses a few 80's fanatics
doing what he feels is right


OD on shrooms?

evillol

Now that would be comical.

nod It takes a special kind of stupid to OD on shrooms. It's not exactly a drug you can accidently take too much of, unless you made a particularly potent tea. Don't do that and watch Ghostbusters, btw.
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Reply #118 posted 02/24/05 11:59pm

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SexyBeautifulOne said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



Not everyone who plays with drugs develops a problem with them.


Another user's argument. Who are you trying to convince us or yourself?


I believe he was trying to convince you, but you're clearly not getting it.

I drink, I smoke pot, I do shrooms. None of this is a regular habit for me though. I drink (not heavily) maybe once a week and the other two are usually only a few times a month. I never "need" to do any of this, but I do on occasion because, damn it, it's fun. It doesn't interfere with my relationships with my familr or friends, doesn't interfere with school, and doesn't interfere with work. Are you going to try to tell me I'm an addict?

Like Evil said, not everyone who plays with drugs develops a problem with them. And that's reality. Not every high school kid who has the odd toke is going to turn into a crackhead, not even most of them will.
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Reply #119 posted 02/25/05 12:11am

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Don't do that and watch Ghostbusters, btw.


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that cracks me up. i know exactly what you're talking about!

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