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Thread started 02/24/05 2:28pm

Anxiety

'She Spoke 2 Me' Appreciation Thread

Holy crap, I love this song - especially the long version on "Old Friends 4 Sale"...sometimes I think of that album as just one big glorified CD single for "She Spoke 2 Me", with all the other tracks being really generous b-sides.

Ok, I'm weird. So what. I love this song, so there.
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Reply #1 posted 02/24/05 2:46pm

Dewrede

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nodI Like the horns
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Reply #2 posted 02/24/05 2:48pm

Anxiety

i like the geeetar in it, too. smile
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Reply #3 posted 02/24/05 2:53pm

Dewrede

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yeah , the guitar in it is nice too
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Reply #4 posted 02/24/05 3:02pm

RiccoTheArtist

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She only spoke to me because baby I'm a STAR...LOL eek
love you baby but not like my guitar
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Reply #5 posted 02/24/05 3:04pm

Anxiety

RiccoTheArtist said:

She only spoke to me because baby I'm a STAR...LOL eek


hmmm Do U Lie? giggle
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Reply #6 posted 02/24/05 3:09pm

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Anxiety said:

RiccoTheArtist said:

She only spoke to me because baby I'm a STAR...LOL eek


hmmm Do U Lie? giggle



ha ha ha that was for Prince; not ME he he he
love you baby but not like my guitar
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Reply #7 posted 02/24/05 4:02pm

Anxiety

RiccoTheArtist said:

Anxiety said:



hmmm Do U Lie? giggle



ha ha ha that was for Prince; not ME he he he


razz
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Reply #8 posted 02/24/05 6:09pm

rockwilder

yeah,i like this,too.
"I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill"
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Reply #9 posted 02/24/05 6:23pm

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I just got done jammin' to that song like 3 minutes ago....
Doesn't it make you smile when you realize no one was there to see the stupid thing you just did?
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Reply #10 posted 02/24/05 7:25pm

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I loved this song when I first heard it on the Girl 6 soundtrack. About peed my pants to hear the "full" version on "The Vault."
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Reply #11 posted 02/24/05 7:26pm

sosgemini

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love it love it love it!!
Space for sale...
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Reply #12 posted 02/24/05 11:08pm

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sosgemini said:

love it love it love it!!

thumbs up!
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Reply #13 posted 02/25/05 2:00am

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It's a brilliant, jazzy piece of work but it ain't catchy.
Love you till you're dead

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Reply #14 posted 02/25/05 2:09am

NEFRETIRI

I also love it and 5 women too.
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Reply #15 posted 02/25/05 2:14am

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I like!
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Reply #16 posted 02/25/05 6:27am

Anxiety

dawn74 said:

It's a brilliant, jazzy piece of work but it ain't catchy.


then i must be listening to a different song with the same title, cuz the one i'm listening to is all kinds of catchy. smile
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Reply #17 posted 02/25/05 6:32am

kisscamille

Absolutely a great song. I love it!
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Reply #18 posted 02/25/05 8:30am

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Doozer said:

I loved this song when I first heard it on the Girl 6 soundtrack. About peed my pants to hear the "full" version on "The Vault."


For real. The extended version rocks my socks, bunches my panties, mashes my potatoes and waxes my legs. Get to that.
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Reply #19 posted 02/25/05 8:46am

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FunkMistress said:

Doozer said:

I loved this song when I first heard it on the Girl 6 soundtrack. About peed my pants to hear the "full" version on "The Vault."


For real. The extended version rocks my socks, bunches my panties, mashes my potatoes and waxes my legs. Get to that.



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Reply #20 posted 02/25/05 9:21am

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love this one and "when the lights go down".
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #21 posted 02/25/05 3:25pm

RealMusician

It's a nice track, and I kinda like the full version with the long instrumental section - but at the same time, it's painfully obvious that Prince's rhythm section aren't jazz musicians...

The swing feel is really stiff and awkward, and the instruments just doesn't sound right in this context, especially bass and drums.

I assume it's Sonny and Michael who are playing on this...?
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Reply #22 posted 02/25/05 3:27pm

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bow YES! It is song like these that remind me of why I love Prince in the first place!
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Reply #23 posted 02/25/05 5:03pm

Anxiety

RealMusician said:

It's a nice track, and I kinda like the full version with the long instrumental section - but at the same time, it's painfully obvious that Prince's rhythm section aren't jazz musicians...

The swing feel is really stiff and awkward, and the instruments just doesn't sound right in this context, especially bass and drums.

I assume it's Sonny and Michael who are playing on this...?


i don't have a jazz musician's ear, so i can't speak to any level of authenticity, other than to say that with prince's background, his take on the genre is what basquiat used to call "ignorant art".

all i know is that when i play it, it sounds good to my ignorant ear. lol
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Reply #24 posted 02/26/05 1:34am

RealMusician

Anxiety said:

RealMusician said:

It's a nice track, and I kinda like the full version with the long instrumental section - but at the same time, it's painfully obvious that Prince's rhythm section aren't jazz musicians...

The swing feel is really stiff and awkward, and the instruments just doesn't sound right in this context, especially bass and drums.

I assume it's Sonny and Michael who are playing on this...?


i don't have a jazz musician's ear, so i can't speak to any level of authenticity, other than to say that with prince's background, his take on the genre is what basquiat used to call "ignorant art".

all i know is that when i play it, it sounds good to my ignorant ear. lol


One important thing about it is that Prince (or his band) have never claimed to be jazz musicians, or labelled their own music as "jazz" - therefore, we shouldn't really judge it from that viewpoint either...

But I'm pretty sure that any true jazz musician who listened to the second half of the song would either laugh or simply just shake their head...
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Reply #25 posted 02/26/05 2:26am

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Anxiety said:

I love this song - especially the long version on "Old Friends 4 Sale"...sometimes I think of that album as just one big glorified CD single for "She Spoke 2 Me", with all the other tracks being really generous b-sides.


You're not alone. That's exactly how I feel. I'm often thinking "ooh, I gotta put on that CD with 'She Spoke 2 Me" on it!".

I've said this before and I'll say it again - "She Spoke 2 Me" is up there with "Purple Rain", "Kiss", "Adore", "Joy In Repetition" and "When Doves Cry".
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Reply #26 posted 02/26/05 9:31am

Anxiety

RealMusician said:



But I'm pretty sure that any true jazz musician who listened to the second half of the song would either laugh or simply just shake their head...


What do you think a true pop musician would do?
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Reply #27 posted 02/26/05 10:46am

RealMusician

Anxiety said:

RealMusician said:



But I'm pretty sure that any true jazz musician who listened to the second half of the song would either laugh or simply just shake their head...


What do you think a true pop musician would do?



Actually, I don't like to discuss music in such terms.

Prince has made some music over the years that I guess could be called "jazz-influenced" - or maybe even "jazz", depending on your definition of the word. Being a jazz musician myself, my opinion is that Prince has never been really close to the genre (by my definition), although he frequently uses some of its elements.

However, I must say that the extended version of "She Spoke 2 Me" is one of his most obvious efforts to actually create what is traditionally referred to as "jazz" music. When I listen to it, as a musician, and compared to other works in that genre, "She Spoke 2 Me" sounds a little bit stiff and clumsy..like they're pretending they can play jazz when they really can't.

On the other hand, if I listen to it as a pop record, r'n'b or whatever, I think it's pretty good, and the "jazz influences" are actually quite charming...so that's what I prefer to do!

"Maybe they can fool the untrained mind, but nobody I know gon' bite!"
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Reply #28 posted 02/26/05 11:06am

Anxiety

RealMusician said:

Anxiety said:



What do you think a true pop musician would do?



Actually, I don't like to discuss music in such terms.

Prince has made some music over the years that I guess could be called "jazz-influenced" - or maybe even "jazz", depending on your definition of the word. Being a jazz musician myself, my opinion is that Prince has never been really close to the genre (by my definition), although he frequently uses some of its elements.

However, I must say that the extended version of "She Spoke 2 Me" is one of his most obvious efforts to actually create what is traditionally referred to as "jazz" music. When I listen to it, as a musician, and compared to other works in that genre, "She Spoke 2 Me" sounds a little bit stiff and clumsy..like they're pretending they can play jazz when they really can't.

On the other hand, if I listen to it as a pop record, r'n'b or whatever, I think it's pretty good, and the "jazz influences" are actually quite charming...so that's what I prefer to do!

"Maybe they can fool the untrained mind, but nobody I know gon' bite!"


whenever i hear prince trying to make jazz sounds, i always think of it from the perspective of someone who makes pop music creating a homage to jazz. i never really consider the possibility that prince is actually trying to pass it off as 'legit' jazz, or that he even cares to. it's just the product of how he processes what he hears and who he's been influenced by. does that make any sense?
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Reply #29 posted 02/26/05 11:27am

RealMusician

Anxiety said:

RealMusician said:




Actually, I don't like to discuss music in such terms.

Prince has made some music over the years that I guess could be called "jazz-influenced" - or maybe even "jazz", depending on your definition of the word. Being a jazz musician myself, my opinion is that Prince has never been really close to the genre (by my definition), although he frequently uses some of its elements.

However, I must say that the extended version of "She Spoke 2 Me" is one of his most obvious efforts to actually create what is traditionally referred to as "jazz" music. When I listen to it, as a musician, and compared to other works in that genre, "She Spoke 2 Me" sounds a little bit stiff and clumsy..like they're pretending they can play jazz when they really can't.

On the other hand, if I listen to it as a pop record, r'n'b or whatever, I think it's pretty good, and the "jazz influences" are actually quite charming...so that's what I prefer to do!

"Maybe they can fool the untrained mind, but nobody I know gon' bite!"


whenever i hear prince trying to make jazz sounds, i always think of it from the perspective of someone who makes pop music creating a homage to jazz. i never really consider the possibility that prince is actually trying to pass it off as 'legit' jazz, or that he even cares to. it's just the product of how he processes what he hears and who he's been influenced by. does that make any sense?


Yeah, that's reasonable. It's just that being a musician myself, I can't help but notice such things...and I suspect other musicians would, as well.
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