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Thread started 02/22/05 11:09pm

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Has Prince met Vanity in awhile?

Hard to believe Vanity was a coke sniffin seductress whom became an abstinent evangelical preacher.

If there was anybody you'dbelieve wouldn't become religous and "clean" it would be Vanity or anybody who'd hung out with Prince.

I know Prince has a combined religosexual attitude but Vanitywent from Nasty GIrl to Church Girl.

She totally rejects her prior lifestyle and doesn't cuss, drink,fornicate, she doesn't even listen to music. Odd who the must unholy become the most holy.

Denise Matthews as she likes to be called is no longer going by Vanity. SHe says Vanity means worthlessness.

So what I want to know is does Vanity(Denise) call or hangout with Prince anymore? She still like him or has she sworn never to come around him?

You can checkout Vanity....Denises site www.denisematthews.com
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Reply #1 posted 02/22/05 11:18pm

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They probably have... but I not like how they used to...
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Reply #2 posted 02/22/05 11:47pm

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Prince now a Jehova's Witness and Vanity now a born-again Christian evangelist. I could acutally see the two of them sitting down and talkin about the old days and how, when and why they changed their lifestyles.

But Vanity, I do believe will remain a Christian evangelist, but why I feel like Prince's religion is subject to change at any minute?
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Reply #3 posted 02/23/05 12:23am

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I hear they still keep in touch, but I'd be surprised if it involved much more than a phone call or a card more than once a year or so. Vanity did get married not too long ago, but has since been divorced. And I believe, like OnionJuice, that Denise will remain a Christian evangelist (and has been for around 10 years now), whereas we'll still see Prince go through some major spiritual changes.
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Reply #4 posted 02/23/05 12:25am

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It is sad to me that she has replaced one addiction (drugs and reckless lifestyle) with another (christian evangelical preacher) - she, like many evangelicals, seem to have so much drama in their lives then look to be "saved" from their once spicy ways. She had a very troubling childhood which most likely led to her psychological and physical dependencies.

In my opinion - clarity and truth of reality doesn't come from the haze of drugs and superficial activities -nor does it come from deluded rapture of worship and dualistic views. In every moment we have an opportunity to be the most caring, compassionate, open minded and generous person we can be.

I hope Prince and Vanity are still friends and will sing together again someday. cloud9

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Reply #5 posted 02/23/05 1:34am

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OceanOfViolets said:

I hope Prince and Vanity are still friends and will sing together again someday


*YURGH!* I would hope they NEVER make music again!

This is the pair that brought us cheap sluts who like (at least) 7" dicks and openly like to use monster vibrators - Imagine the insipid dirge they would create if they made music in 2005 after their strict religious 're-awakenings'! evillol


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Reply #6 posted 02/23/05 1:41am

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MetroArea said:

OceanOfViolets said:

I hope Prince and Vanity are still friends and will sing together again someday


*YURGH!* I would hope they NEVER make music again!

This is the pair that brought us cheap sluts who like (at least) 7" dicks and openly like to use monster vibrators - Imagine the insipid dirge they would create if they made music in 2005 after their strict religious 're-awakenings'! evillol


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LAWL! evillol
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Reply #7 posted 02/23/05 1:42am

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OceanOfViolets said:

It is sad to me that she has replaced one addiction (drugs and reckless lifestyle) with another (christian evangelical preacher) - she, like many evangelicals, seem to have so much drama in their lives then look to be "saved" from their once spicy ways.

but with her (and many others) it's a bit more different than simply just latching on to religion...she almost died, man.
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Reply #8 posted 02/23/05 3:27am

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DId know she had a troubled childhood. But That will lead you to overt behaviour
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Reply #9 posted 02/23/05 4:49am

VanitySixx

It would be sooooo cool if they did meet and he got rid of Mani machinegun to get back with Vanity again kisses.
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Reply #10 posted 02/23/05 5:39am

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I don't really care if they still keep in touch,but I just want "Vibrator" to be released someday lol


maybe they could remaster the 'Vanity 6' CD and add bonus tracks like "Vibrator" and Vanity's version of "Sex Shooter"?
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Reply #11 posted 02/23/05 10:53am

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Vanity's version of "Sex Shooter" would be off the chain!!! But from what i know (which is none) she does not "like" the old person she was so i would think that she wouldn't want to keep in touch with the person that reminded her of that other person. In other words i think she stays clear of Prince. Besides i think he is married to her mini-me.
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Reply #12 posted 02/23/05 10:54am

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dearlybeloved said:

In other words i think she stays clear of Prince. Besides i think he is married to her mini-me.

mini-me lol
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Reply #13 posted 02/23/05 10:56am

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So now her new goal in life is to have zero fun. That's...uh...really inspiring. neutral
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Reply #14 posted 02/23/05 10:58am

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PurpleKnight said:

So now her new goal in life is to have zero fun. That's...uh...really inspiring. neutral


Now i wouldn't call throwing up til your kidney's try to come out fun but to each his own...
lol
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Reply #15 posted 02/23/05 11:00am

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dearlybeloved said:

PurpleKnight said:

So now her new goal in life is to have zero fun. That's...uh...really inspiring. neutral


Now i wouldn't call throwing up til your kidney's try to come out fun but to each his own...
lol


lol It's not that...It's just, no music? What does she do for fun then, play Boggle?

The no swearing thing has always been dumb to me too. Don't try to tell me Jesus didn't say the f word back in the day when he stubbed his toe.
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Reply #16 posted 02/23/05 11:33am

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OceanOfViolets said:

It is sad to me that she has replaced one addiction (drugs and reckless lifestyle) with another (christian evangelical preacher) - she, like many evangelicals, seem to have so much drama in their lives then look to be "saved" from their once spicy ways. She had a very troubling childhood which most likely led to her psychological and physical dependencies.

In my opinion - clarity and truth of reality doesn't come from the haze of drugs and superficial activities -nor does it come from deluded rapture of worship and dualistic views. In every moment we have an opportunity to be the most caring, compassionate, open minded and generous person we can be.

I hope Prince and Vanity are still friends and will sing together again someday. cloud9

heart 4U


This is what usually happens. At the church I attend, there are a lot of former drug abusers. Many of them are born-again Christians but take the religious aspect of that way too far. There's a difference between having a close relationship with God and playing too much into religiosity. But, hey, if it helps one to cope with their past and gives them positive motivation for the future, then good for them...

If it brings one peace, then I'm all for it...
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Reply #17 posted 02/23/05 11:54am

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PurpleKnight said:

dearlybeloved said:



Now i wouldn't call throwing up til your kidney's try to come out fun but to each his own...
lol


lol It's not that...It's just, no music? What does she do for fun then, play Boggle?


As much as I dug her back in the day, it's not exactly the loss of a great artist we're talking about here with Vanity. Even in her prime, her main talent had little to do with her music.
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Reply #18 posted 02/23/05 1:03pm

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laylow03 said:

OceanOfViolets said:

It is sad to me that she has replaced one addiction (drugs and reckless lifestyle) with another (christian evangelical preacher) - she, like many evangelicals, seem to have so much drama in their lives then look to be "saved" from their once spicy ways. She had a very troubling childhood which most likely led to her psychological and physical dependencies.

In my opinion - clarity and truth of reality doesn't come from the haze of drugs and superficial activities -nor does it come from deluded rapture of worship and dualistic views. In every moment we have an opportunity to be the most caring, compassionate, open minded and generous person we can be.

I hope Prince and Vanity are still friends and will sing together again someday. cloud9

heart 4U


This is what usually happens. At the church I attend, there are a lot of former drug abusers. Many of them are born-again Christians but take the religious aspect of that way too far. There's a difference between having a close relationship with God and playing too much into religiosity. But, hey, if it helps one to cope with their past and gives them positive motivation for the future, then good for them...

If it brings one peace, then I'm all for it...


Thats what I've found church to be. Lots of ex druggies,alchies and prisoners.
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Reply #19 posted 02/23/05 1:13pm

MidnightFunk

It bothers me that I read that many find that finding God is going from one addiction to another..but...sometimes that is the only time we are open to finding God..
And I agree sometimes people take it to the extreme, I remember when I first became a beliver, I threw out all my prince music..but then I realized that being a Christian does NOT mean changing EVERYTHING about your life . It means bringing God into all those areas of your life and finding out who HE created U to be..
So.. Congrats to Vanity and I hope she has found peace....
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MidnightFunk said:

It bothers me that I read that many find that finding God is going from one addiction to another..but...sometimes that is the only time we are open to finding God..
And I agree sometimes people take it to the extreme, I remember when I first became a beliver, I threw out all my prince music..but then I realized that being a Christian does NOT mean changing EVERYTHING about your life . It means bringing God into all those areas of your life and finding out who HE created U to be..
So.. Congrats to Vanity and I hope she has found peace....


PREACH ON MIDNIGHT FUNK! very well said.

PS that was the devil that told you to throw out your prince music. LOL!! just kidding.
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Reply #21 posted 02/23/05 1:27pm

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dearlybeloved said:

MidnightFunk said:

It bothers me that I read that many find that finding God is going from one addiction to another..but...sometimes that is the only time we are open to finding God..
And I agree sometimes people take it to the extreme, I remember when I first became a beliver, I threw out all my prince music..but then I realized that being a Christian does NOT mean changing EVERYTHING about your life . It means bringing God into all those areas of your life and finding out who HE created U to be..
So.. Congrats to Vanity and I hope she has found peace....


PREACH ON MIDNIGHT FUNK! very well said.

PS that was the devil that told you to throw out your prince music. LOL!! just kidding.




I think I just needed to purge everything related to a weird time in my life, and I was getting some pressure from some new friends....
I stripped down my life, found who I was.. and the Funk came back...
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Reply #22 posted 02/23/05 1:34pm

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OceanOfViolets said:

It is sad to me that she has replaced one addiction (drugs and reckless lifestyle) with another (christian evangelical preacher) - she, like many evangelicals, seem to have so much drama in their lives then look to be "saved" from their once spicy ways.

but with her (and many others) it's a bit more different than simply just latching on to religion...she almost died, man.


...and she got baptised by The Holy Spirit -- that's not delusion, that's for real if you even know -- and then to be used by God through your spiritual giftings... that's some awesome stuff right there! This ain't no joke.

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Reply #23 posted 02/23/05 1:36pm

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Snap said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


but with her (and many others) it's a bit more different than simply just latching on to religion...she almost died, man.


...and she got baptised by The Holy Spirit -- that's not delusion, that's for real if you even know -- and then to be used by God through your spiritual giftings... that's some awesome stuff right there! This ain't no joke.

pray



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Reply #24 posted 02/23/05 2:15pm

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Universaluv said:

PurpleKnight said:



lol It's not that...It's just, no music? What does she do for fun then, play Boggle?


As much as I dug her back in the day, it's not exactly the loss of a great artist we're talking about here with Vanity. Even in her prime, her main talent had little to do with her music.


I'm talking about the fact that she doesn't even listen to music, not that she doesn't wanna record anymore. What is up with that?

It's just the whole strict religion thing boggles my mind. You shouldn't need to chain yourself to a book of primitive rules to feel good and positive about yourself.

It's just another form of dependance, except this time she's sacrificing her mind instead of her body.

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Reply #25 posted 02/23/05 8:11pm

Snap

Come on now, we don't know all that. Don't start laying your religious stereotypes upon her. If I can find out the next television interview she's doing, I'll let you know. She's still pretty down to earth, but also very "heavenly" at the same time. wink
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Reply #26 posted 02/23/05 9:16pm

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Snap said:

Come on now, we don't know all that. Don't start laying your religious stereotypes upon her. If I can find out the next television interview she's doing, I'll let you know. She's still pretty down to earth, but also very "heavenly" at the same time. wink



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Reply #27 posted 02/23/05 9:34pm

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Reply #28 posted 02/23/05 11:45pm

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Snap said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


but with her (and many others) it's a bit more different than simply just latching on to religion...she almost died, man.


...and she got baptised by The Holy Spirit -- that's not delusion, that's for real if you even know -- and then to be used by God through your spiritual giftings... that's some awesome stuff right there! This ain't no joke.

pray



By "deluded rapture of worship" i just mean that many spend time in church singing, praying for help, praising Jesus, talking about their personal trials and tribulations, etc (ie: passive)

In a more practical sense people should realize spiritual nobility in everyone and make every moment a choice to help others, be compassionate and work towards the positive enhancement of all lives great and small. (ie: active)

Having a questing and open mind to explore all spiritual traditions, philosophies, psychological paradigns and archetypes, social morays and cultural differences would be the ideal. It takes fortitude to have "truth, no matter what that is" be ones goal, as opposed to have a personal "belief" as ones goal. It is disturbing to me only because more often than not, people just accept views of the universe simply based on what religion they were raised in or what race they are, or culture.

Maybe Denise has become a christian evangelist because that is only what all she was familiar with.
Her country, family, friends, race, sex, age, and so many variables shape (and can also limit) her views.
Even those who aren't religious or who don't believe in a God can be found praying for help in dire life and death circumstances. After her serious medical prolems, i notice she didn't become an Anglican preacher, a Quaker devotee, Islamic fundamentalist etc. ...

Prince also has a connection with JW because of his mother -
If she, or Larry Graham and that circle friends were of another spiritual tradition perhaps Prince would have been receptive or persuaded to those ideas as well. shrug It seems best to always have an open mind in all things.

I enjoyed Vanity's music (especially romantic voyage) and hope that she will realize that music is a tool to help inspire and also entertain. I'm hoping she will continue to be friends with Prince and have a musical relationship again.

If she is on tv again - please post the info. thanks a million biggrin

(i ramble a lot - sorry for the long post.) wink

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OceanOfViolets said:

Prince also has a connection with JW because of his mother[...]

the moms wasn't a jw.
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