Trouble in paradise! Me thinks...

Krystal666 said:

Actually its pretty typical. I've seen really good-looking, chick magnet type men will go get plain janes because these women are devoted to them, will put up with their shit and will most likely stay their asses at home and they feel more secure. Mani isn't his first choice, nor really his type really, but she's safe and stable. She's reasonably pretty, reasonably intelligent, but doesn't challenge him with her wits, she lets him be himself and she puts up with it. I think she's pretty smart because chances are Prince isn't going to let go of her, even if he does ever play around on her, he will always come back home to her.

LQ

Krystal666 said:

You are absolutely true that Prince had the bigger committment, and he didn't stand up to it, because he divorced Mayte.
But I can't pat Mani on the back for hooking up with a married man. What she did was not honorable. You can't change that. And being married myself, I just think that was low. Now Mani is the missus, I bet your bottom dollar, that she wants all the other females to "respect" her marriage (the way she did NOT respect Mayte's marriage) and stay away from her husband... and you know what I saw to that....
"I got your back Mani"! Married people are off limits. God's law. Now if you are not a child of God... well then you got bigger problems.

LadyQ said:

Yup I think you are right. I think his past women were so beautiful, were told just how damn pretty they were and they started believing it themselves. And when Prince gives them shit (standing them up, fooling around, getting moody etc) they just had this attitude that "I am effing gorgeous, and I ain't going to take that from him" and stood up to him, and you know what happens sometimes when you stand up... you lose your seat.
I think Manuella is smart enough to know there is one star in the family (unlike Mayte, Vanity, Kim,etc) -- you don't see her in movies, videos, singing etc.,and also will look the other way if he is fooling around (unlike Susan, Susannah) . She has an advantage over the past women, Prince WANTS to do what Jehovah wants, so religion may just be the hook to tame him. Jill Jones seems similar to Mani (whatever, whenever), except she came along too soon. Prince wasn't ready to settle down.

prodigalfan said:

All in all, I only know from Prince and his relations, that what's here going around and I can read sowhereelse. Definitly I don't know how and what it did happend and does happen right now. And I wont loose to much energy in do think much more about it. We aren't so close nor so private together.

I just wanted to give my opinion to your comment, because I agree: marriage should been from both parts, are all implicated parts, respected.
Every man and every woman can say no, if it comes to a critical situation. To be a solitary person, doesn't means for me, to have the full freedom, if I'ld fall in love in a married man, to let it go on. No. I have to take, as solitary person, also a certain responsabilty over the things.
[Edited 2/22/05 6:23am]

LadyQ said:

Wow! I never thought of it that way. You really put it into perspective for me. I don't think Mani is horribly ugly but like you said she is not really what he went ga ga over before. Mayte she is not. I know she was super religious and that attracted Prince but it must be hard for him to resist sleeping with sexy women with no strings attached.

But if he is faithful to Mani he must masturbate to alot of porn then. Becuase men enjoy looking at beautiful naked women that are not their wives, yes even Jehovah witnesses. Did you ever see that Chris Rock skit? but honestly I can't see Prince being totally satisfied with that, even though alot of men are, just because he is used to getting whatever he wants.

In that sense I can definatly see them being married for a really long time. What is that one oldies song "If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, never make a pretty woman your wife so from my personal point of view get an ugly girl to marry you..."

Redayh said:

WHY?

SquirrelMeat said:

NO WAAAAY ! ! I hate the big baggy stuff - looks like something elementary school kids should wear. I like Prince's look. Suits him - he's always been to stylish for that look you suggest!!

sag10 said:

OMG..this is the VERY first thing that came to my mind when I saw this picture too!

Krystal666 said:

he went for the Extreme makeover look, somebody call ABC please!!!

prodigalfan said:

I understand what you are saying but sometimes even though people are married it is possible u could fall in love with someone eles. People should respect others marriages and but maybe she really fell in love with him even though he was married. It seems to be for the best because he seems really happy now. When he was with Mayte Prince seemed unhappy, stressed out and confused. Now he seems alot more down to earth. Just because someone is married doesn't mean they should stay married to that person if there is another person they really want to be with. Don't get me wrong I am sure Prince really loved Mayte, and I loved those two together if I were Prince I would have never let her go but Prince needs to do what makes him happy.

If I met Prince would I respect Mani and her marriage? Probably I mean I wouldn't go after the man but if he went after me than that is a totally diffrent story. How do we know Prince didn't chase Mani and not the other way around. Alot of girls say they would jump on Prince the second they see him but in reality few women would do that. I wouldn't. I would probably be too shy to even say anything to him. I would probably just stare in awe. Hell I wouldn't even have to sleep with him to be happy, I would be content just working for him, running around like his little bitch fetching him things just to watch him work and witness his true artistry at work. Props to Mani for getting the man she wanted She is a lucky girl to be married to such a wonderful man.

Krystal666 said:

according to people who knew her in college mani fell in love with prince a loong time before she ever met him in person. .. .. .

Well u can't really love someone unless u know them...I think they mean she was in lust with him (like me heh heha).

Krystal666 said:

Do you even understand the concept of marriage or what being married means (at least in the traditional sense)? Why ever get married in the first place then if you think you might come across someone else later on you'd rather be with? Because if you think being married means you'll never again meet anyone else you may feel attracted to, or even think "What if...?" about, you're mistaken. It happens. But when you make the choice to take on the commitment of marriage, that means you've decided to be commited to that one person.

Of course if your marriage has irreperable problems and issues that have made both people miserable and bothe people can't (or don't want to) work things out, they should sever the ties and move on. But maybe that "severing" of the marriage, legally and in all other ways, should occur before one of the partners decides to take up with someone else?




The Prince and Mani issue aside (since I don't know the truth of their circumstances on how they came to be together), you'd really pursue a relationship with a married man who is STILL married? Nice. I guess you aren't looking for someone with integrity and respect for you. And how could you respect or, ever trust, the man were YOU to become his next wife? He might find someone better than you one day and not tell you how "bad" he thinks your marriage is and just start creeping around behind YOUR back. And on the flip side: you really think a married man would respect YOU, a woman who proves she'd mess around with a married person and have no problems with doing so? Cuz if you'd do it once, you'd do it again.

I guess I just will never understand people that don't think an unhappily married individual should: 1st) be honest with their spouse, 2nd) divorce said spouse, and THEN 3) "move on" and begin dating other people.

I truly hope one day if you ever marry, some woman doesn't see your husband and "want him" and that your husband isn't 'unhappy' with your marriand and low enough to mess around with her and leave you for her. But if that ever were to happen, I hope you're consistent enough to congratulate HER for "getting the man she wanted".

Again, my above comments aren't meant to be Prince/Mani specific. I just think you have an awfully warped and self-centered idea of what marriage means.

SnowQueen said:

Well first off I said I wouldn't go after Prince. But if he went after me I probably would let it happen. Not because I have something against Mani but because I am really attracted to him. Would I wanna break up their marriage no! But he is the person who is married. He shouldn't be trying to go after women in the first place! I think Mani and Prince really love eachother and I'm sure my girl Mayte got hurt but obviously things worked out for the best. He really seems happy. If you are the one who is married it is not accaptable sleeping going after someone eles but if you are the unattached one you did not promise a commitment to anybody. So I don't belive in denying love so yes it is acceptable sleeping with a married man. Don't worry P would never go after me anyway, I'm 5'6.

Krystal666 said:

Just because he's Prince? Okaaay.



Right. Yet you'd willingly be with a married men who'd run around and cheat on his wife.



No, the commitment isn't directy yours to honor but you're showing your own lack of integrity and self-respect by sleeping with a married man. But, if you're both so selfish - the man just wants the piece of a** and you are just getting what YOU want - then I guess it's a compatible relationship of two selfish users.



Unbelievable. "yes it is acceptable sleeping with a married man." All I can say is I foresee many years of hellish, shitty relationships and multiple divorces in your life.

And I'm hardly worried Prince would go after you.

SnowQueen said:

Well obviously Mani was just more than a piece of ass. They have been married for four years now. How can you stifle that kind of love between two people? Obvioulsy he felt geinuine love for her and didn't want a one night stand with her. I mean how misrable would our man be now if he was just going through the motions with Mayte and dening himself the one he knew would really make him happy?

SnowQueen said:

I get where you're coming from but the only reason he married Mayte at that time was becuase she was pregnant. And, that doesn't mean that he didn't care for her.

Further more I'm willing to bet that if Mayte had gone along with his change in life style fully (i.e., becoming a JW and being content with being his spouse rather than being a dancer, model, quasi singer, actress) she would still be in the picture. Mayte had other plans from the giddy up so her territory (so to speak) got invaded on. Mayte dropped the ball.
As for Mani being there to take her place, like Chris Rock says, "It's not right, but I understand."

Krystal666 said:

You keep turning this conversation into a specific Mani/Prince thing whereas I was talking more generally about the whole "marriage/cheating with a married man/respect" issue and hashing out Mani & Prince's businees isn't really what I wanted to do so I guess we'll just call this discussion a wash.

SnowQueen said:

Well I was using the Mani/Prince thing as an example and it seems appropriate since Prince is the only married man I would admire/like enough to sleep with. Sounds to me like you like Mani, and are pissed off that Mani and I probably share the same views on this kind of situation.

Krystal666 said:

You know, you really prove your character more and more with every post you make and with everything you say, and that's not a compliment.

Judging from your posts around here, you appear to be **much** more emotionally involved in Prince's private life than am I, so therefore maybe you get "pissed off" over aspects of his life that don't concern you & are none of your business...but I don't.

BTW, were I Mani I wouldn't appreciate anybody comparing me to themselves in such a way that assumes me to be an opportunistic, self-centered skank with no morals nor respect.

SnowQueen said:

LOL, ouch.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I TOLD YOU DAT BITCH CRAZY!

CalhounSq said:

SnowQueen said:

Ahhh, the Queen has spoken. Thanks for picking up where I left off. (school finals). This is exactly how I feel. I do have empathy for people stuck in a bad situation, and when love calls, sometimes you have to answer. But at least call a spade a spade. Don't encourage it!! Acknowledge it was wrong, or society has some serious issues, (Christian Conservatism movement aside)

Krystal666 said:

AND NOW WE COME TO THE NITTY GRITTY! You say you are 5'6, So am I! Does that mean MY husband is fair game? Or my sister's or sister-in-law??
That is what this dialogue is all about. If you feel that way, then the VP of sales at 3M is fair game even if he has a wife and 3.6 kids.

CalhounSq said:

Yeah, this gets me, too, calhoun. i just dont get it. Howcome whenever a black male star is dressed smartly in a suit he gets reffered to as being either a) 'pimping it up' (or words to that effect) or b) wearing a pimp suit?

A'int nothing remotely 'pimp' about Princes clothes in the picture above. He looks great and sucessful. Recognise, beeyatches!