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Thread started 01/19/05 12:57am

meow85

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yes, it's another "Is Prince Gay?" thread, but please bear with me...

We all know THE question which keeps rearing it's ugly head again and again. Any recent threads on the matter are neither the first nor the last time it'll be brought up.


Well, *takes breath* here I go:

Prince may or may not be gay. Chances are, he's not. Or maybe he's bisexual. Who knows? Who cares? Not me.

What gets me though, are the fans who insist that there's no possible way he could be anything but 100% heterosexual. How can you be so sure? Unless you know him personally or have some access to the inner workings of his mind, you don't.

And as for the "proof":

Some say he can't be gay because he obviously loves women. Oh yeah? I have a close friend who "obviously" loves women. He's not quite 20 -and this is no exaggeration, believe me -has had sex with approximately 100 women. (He's lost count, classy bastard that he is.) He's also totally and only attracted to men.

Some say he can't be gay because he's said so himself. And? It's pretty well known Prince has said a lot of shit over the years that just plain wasn't true. So how can it be beyond the realm of possibility he's lying about this too?

Some say he can't be gay because evidence would've come out in the press by now. Not necessarily -there's a lot of gay people in the industry who for their own reasons have never come out, and especially if you're well-liked and respected like Prince is, it can be very easy to get people keep your secrets.

Some say he can't be gay because there would've been mention of it somewhere in his song lyrics. But it could be argued that it's already been hinted at, however vaguely. It's also possible that songs mentioning an attraction to other men never made it to album and are locked away in his vaults.

Some say he can't be gay because he belongs to a religion that says homosexuality is wrong. That's the worst "proof" I've heard -do said fans have any idea how many gay people are involved with religion in some way, including many that disapprove of homosexuality? That's like saying there are no Communists in the U.S. because it's frowned upon.




Does any of this prove Prince is gay? Hell no. All it proves is that those who continue to insist that there's no way their hero could be anything but straight, need to either get better arguments, or shut the fuck up.
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Reply #1 posted 01/19/05 1:20am

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meow85 said:

...Prince may or may not be gay. Chances are, he's not. Or maybe he's bisexual. Who knows? Who cares? Not me...


If the statement above is true, then... WHAT IS THE DAMN POINT OF THIS THREAD!?

confuse


Perhaps you should follow your other piece of sage advice and...

... shut the fuck up.



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Reply #2 posted 01/19/05 1:38am

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Read sleasy tell all books like Possessed by Alex Hahn. If there was anything gay going on, even a rumor, it would be in that book. Prince is glam, not gay. What makes u think he is gay? Because he wears makeup and weird close, so he "must be gay"? That does not make u gay. Prince is from the glam rock, new wave 80s. Should I list all of his women over the years.
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Reply #3 posted 01/19/05 1:39am

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meow85 said:

We all know THE question which keeps rearing it's ugly head again and again. Any recent threads on the matter are neither the first nor the last time it'll be brought up.


Well, *takes breath* here I go:

Prince may or may not be gay. Chances are, he's not. Or maybe he's bisexual. Who knows? Who cares? Not me.

What gets me though, are the fans who insist that there's no possible way he could be anything but 100% heterosexual. How can you be so sure? Unless you know him personally or have some access to the inner workings of his mind, you don't.

And as for the "proof":

Some say he can't be gay because he obviously loves women. Oh yeah? I have a close friend who "obviously" loves women. He's not quite 20 -and this is no exaggeration, believe me -has had sex with approximately 100 women. (He's lost count, classy bastard that he is.) He's also totally and only attracted to men.

Some say he can't be gay because he's said so himself. And? It's pretty well known Prince has said a lot of shit over the years that just plain wasn't true. So how can it be beyond the realm of possibility he's lying about this too?

Some say he can't be gay because evidence would've come out in the press by now. Not necessarily -there's a lot of gay people in the industry who for their own reasons have never come out, and especially if you're well-liked and respected like Prince is, it can be very easy to get people keep your secrets.

Some say he can't be gay because there would've been mention of it somewhere in his song lyrics. But it could be argued that it's already been hinted at, however vaguely. It's also possible that songs mentioning an attraction to other men never made it to album and are locked away in his vaults.

Some say he can't be gay because he belongs to a religion that says homosexuality is wrong. That's the worst "proof" I've heard -do said fans have any idea how many gay people are involved with religion in some way, including many that disapprove of homosexuality? That's like saying there are no Communists in the U.S. because it's frowned upon.




Does any of this prove Prince is gay? Hell no. All it proves is that those who continue to insist that there's no way their hero could be anything but straight, need to either get better arguments, or shut the fuck up.


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Reply #4 posted 01/19/05 1:56am

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He sings with a falsetto so he "must be gay"? That does not make u gay.
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Reply #5 posted 01/19/05 1:59am

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rudeboynpg said:

Read sleasy tell all books like Possessed by Alex Hahn. If there was anything gay going on, even a rumor, it would be in that book. Prince is glam, not gay. What makes u think he is gay? Because he wears makeup and weird close, so he "must be gay"? That does not make u gay. Prince is from the glam rock, new wave 80s. Should I list all of his women over the years.

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Reply #6 posted 01/19/05 2:07am

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Let's try this again.

I'm not trying to prove anything about Prince's sexuality.

I'm just pointing out how weak the arguments are of those who insist he couldn't possibly be gay.



I meant this as a serious post, and so far with only 4 replies, I've had the "proof" arguments repeated back at me, told to shut up, and told everything I've said is wrong.



Fuck...

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Reply #7 posted 01/19/05 2:12am

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meow85 said:

rudeboynpg said:

Read sleasy tell all books like Possessed by Alex Hahn. If there was anything gay going on, even a rumor, it would be in that book. Prince is glam, not gay. What makes u think he is gay? Because he wears makeup and weird close, so he "must be gay"? That does not make u gay. Prince is from the glam rock, new wave 80s. Should I list all of his women over the years.

Did you even read my post?
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It seems like u have a personal problem with Prince and gay stereo tips.
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Reply #8 posted 01/19/05 2:16am

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meow85 said:

Let's try this again.

I'm not trying to prove anything about Prince's sexuality.

I'm just pointing out how weak the arguments are of those who insist he couldn't possibly be gay.



I meant this as a serious post, and so far with only 4 replies, I've had the "proof" arguments repeated back at me, told to shut up, and told everything I've said is wrong.



Fuck...

sigh



Your gay argument is totally week.
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Reply #9 posted 01/19/05 2:20am

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rudeboynpg said:

meow85 said:

Let's try this again.

I'm not trying to prove anything about Prince's sexuality.

I'm just pointing out how weak the arguments are of those who insist he couldn't possibly be gay.



I meant this as a serious post, and so far with only 4 replies, I've had the "proof" arguments repeated back at me, told to shut up, and told everything I've said is wrong.



Fuck...

sigh



Your gay argument is totally week.


I'm not making any gay argument.
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Reply #10 posted 01/19/05 2:20am

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rudeboynpg said:

meow85 said:


Did you even read my post?
[Edited 1/19/05 2:03am]



It seems like u have a personal problem with Prince and gay stereo tips.

whofarted


Right then.....
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Reply #11 posted 01/19/05 2:21am

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meow85 said:

Some say he can't be gay because evidence would've come out in the press by now. Not necessarily -there's a lot of gay people in the industry who for their own reasons have never come out,and especially if you're well-liked and respected like Prince is, it can be very easy to get people keep your secrets.



Yes,he's respected,but he has also pissed off and alienated alot of people (managers,bandmembers,ex-lovers,former employees,etc).If he really was gay,don't you think some of these people would have went straight to the tabloids with their exclusive tales? Surely,by now,we would have heard about "Prince's Secret Gay Life",if it was indeed true.
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Reply #12 posted 01/19/05 2:22am

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DavidEye said:

meow85 said:

Some say he can't be gay because evidence would've come out in the press by now. Not necessarily -there's a lot of gay people in the industry who for their own reasons have never come out,and especially if you're well-liked and respected like Prince is, it can be very easy to get people keep your secrets.



Yes,he's respected,but he has also pissed off and alienated alot of people (managers,bandmembers,ex-lovers,former employees,etc).If he really was gay,don't you think some of these people would have went straight to the tabloids with their exclusive tales? Surely,by now,we would have heard about "Prince's Secret Gay Life",if it was indeed true.


Good Lord. You apparently didn't read my post either. Lemme repeat myself then:


Does any of this prove Prince is gay? Hell no. All it proves is that those who continue to insist that there's no way their hero could be anything but straight, need to either get better arguments, or shut the fuck up.
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Reply #13 posted 01/19/05 2:24am

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meow85 said:

Some say he can't be gay because evidence would've come out in the press by now. Not necessarily -there's a lot of gay people in the industry who for their own reasons have never come out,and especially if you're well-liked and respected like Prince is, it can be very easy to get people keep your secrets.



Yes,he's respected,but he has also pissed off and alienated alot of people (managers,bandmembers,ex-lovers,former employees,etc).If he really was gay,don't you think some of these people would have went straight to the tabloids with their exclusive tales? Surely,by now,we would have heard about "Prince's Secret Gay Life",if it was indeed true.


Exactly
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Reply #14 posted 01/19/05 2:30am

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Free your mind for the stereo types of society. Thats what Uptown's all about: "She's just a crazy little mixed up dame. She's just a victim of society and all it's dreams. Now where I come from we dont let society tell us how it's supposed to be. Our clothes, our hair, we dont care!"
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Reply #15 posted 01/19/05 2:37am

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misty2k said:

meow85 said:

...Prince may or may not be gay. Chances are, he's not. Or maybe he's bisexual. Who knows? Who cares? Not me...


If the statement above is true, then... WHAT IS THE DAMN POINT OF THIS THREAD!?


That which you quoted was me stating my own position on the subject, for reasons of clarity.

The point of the thread was to address certain fans who insist he can't possibly be anything but straight, based on evidence that is shaky at best.

I'd thought I'd made that fairly clear.

Apparently not.




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Reply #16 posted 01/19/05 2:40am

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rudeboynpg said:

Free your mind for the stereo types of society. Thats what Uptown's all about: "She's just a crazy little mixed up dame. She's just a victim of society and all it's dreams. Now where I come from we dont let society tell us how it's supposed to be. Our clothes, our hair, we dont care!"

What the fuck are you talking about? Not once did I try to imply anything about Prince's sexuality, nor did I try to "prove" he's gay because of how he dresses.
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Reply #17 posted 01/19/05 2:45am

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rudeboynpg said:

He sings with a falsetto so he "must be gay"? That does not make u gay.

Did I say that anywhere?
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Reply #18 posted 01/19/05 2:59am

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meow85 said:

DavidEye said:




Yes,he's respected,but he has also pissed off and alienated alot of people (managers,bandmembers,ex-lovers,former employees,etc).If he really was gay,don't you think some of these people would have went straight to the tabloids with their exclusive tales? Surely,by now,we would have heard about "Prince's Secret Gay Life",if it was indeed true.


Good Lord. You apparently didn't read my post either. Lemme repeat myself then:


Does any of this prove Prince is gay? Hell no. All it proves is that those who continue to insist that there's no way their hero could be anything but straight, need to either get better arguments, or shut the fuck up.


It is u who has proved nothing. Your argument is empty. There is no reason to think he is gay. there is every reason to think and see that he is straight.
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Reply #19 posted 01/19/05 3:05am

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rudeboynpg said:

meow85 said:



Good Lord. You apparently didn't read my post either. Lemme repeat myself then:


Does any of this prove Prince is gay? Hell no. All it proves is that those who continue to insist that there's no way their hero could be anything but straight, need to either get better arguments, or shut the fuck up.


It is u who has proved nothing. Your argument is empty. There is no reason to think he is gay. there is every reason to think and see that he is straight.

I'm not trying to prove he's gay.

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Reply #20 posted 01/19/05 3:05am

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meow85 said:

rudeboynpg said:

He sings with a falsetto so he "must be gay"? That does not make u gay.

Did I say that anywhere?



What are u trying to say? That nobody knows anything about Prince? Thats bullsh*t.
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Reply #21 posted 01/19/05 3:07am

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meow85 said:

rudeboynpg said:

Free your mind for the stereo types of society. Thats what Uptown's all about: "She's just a crazy little mixed up dame. She's just a victim of society and all it's dreams. Now where I come from we dont let society tell us how it's supposed to be. Our clothes, our hair, we dont care!"

What the fuck are you talking about? Not once did I try to imply anything about Prince's sexuality, nor did I try to "prove" he's gay because of how he dresses.



What is your point?
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Reply #22 posted 01/19/05 3:10am

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Some days I love the Org.

Other days, orgers post crap apparently without bothering to read the initial post.





Fuck it. I'm sorry I decided to post my opinion. I'm sorry I dared say certain fans consider all angles. I'm sorry I created this thread.

Somebody lock this. I give up. sigh
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Reply #23 posted 01/19/05 3:16am

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meow85 said:

Some days I love the Org.

Other days, orgers post crap apparently without bothering to read the initial post.





Fuck it. I'm sorry I decided to post my opinion. I'm sorry I dared say certain fans consider all angles. I'm sorry I created this thread.

Somebody lock this. I give up. sigh


What opinion?
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Reply #24 posted 01/19/05 3:21am

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Prince is heterosexual.
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Reply #25 posted 01/19/05 3:28am

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wallysafford said:

Prince is heterosexual.

You're not going to attack me like everyone else has done so far, are you? confused
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Reply #27 posted 01/19/05 3:59am

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Someone please lock this thread. I'm sorry I even started it...
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Reply #28 posted 01/19/05 4:02am

DavidEye

Looks like this thread has gone downhill really quick lol

These types of discussions are tired anyway.Give it a rest.
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Reply #29 posted 01/19/05 4:37am

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meow85 said:

DavidEye said:




Yes,he's respected,but he has also pissed off and alienated alot of people (managers,bandmembers,ex-lovers,former employees,etc).If he really was gay,don't you think some of these people would have went straight to the tabloids with their exclusive tales? Surely,by now,we would have heard about "Prince's Secret Gay Life",if it was indeed true.


Good Lord. You apparently didn't read my post either. Lemme repeat myself then:


Does any of this prove Prince is gay? Hell no. All it proves is that those who continue to insist that there's no way their hero could be anything but straight, need to either get better arguments, or shut the fuck up.

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But David's argument is good. P has pissed off to many people. If was gay someone would have put it out a long time ago. I think dude has mental health issues that are far more serious than being gay but our society is more worried about what someone is doing in their bedroom than what is going on in their mind.
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