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Thread started 12/13/04 8:15am

meltwithu

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1984 or 2004--Prince's best damn year ever?

I know the obvious choice would be 1984, with Purple Rain all over the map, Grammy's and Oscar, successful protege groups...but does it overshadow 2004, with his out-of left-field Musicology tour success, RRHOF induction ,6 Grammy nominations (this year's and next year's), and total reinvention of his image from crackpot egomaniac to savvy businessman? Eminem had a # 1 album and won Grammy and Oscar in the same year and i just don't see him being a froce in 20 years...Usher's been the beneficiary of some slick production in riding the charts, but will anybody care next year?
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Reply #1 posted 12/13/04 8:18am

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'84. the success was fresh then.
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Reply #2 posted 12/13/04 8:28am

GaryMF

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Without 1984 there would be no 2004.

2004 was exciting, but mainly when set against the backdrop of 10+ years of boring, anti-climactic activity, that the general public was pretty much unaware of.
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Reply #3 posted 12/13/04 8:34am

MoonCat

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Is there any question?

but 2004 is probaly second best shrug
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Reply #4 posted 12/13/04 8:41am

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1984 by miles and miles. 20 years ago, Prince actually fulfilled the potential for megastardom after a slow, steady cycle from wunderkind to underground darling to crossover artist to superstar.

BTW, MoonCat, I would humbly disagree. 1987, to me, was his second-best year ever.
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Reply #5 posted 12/13/04 8:43am

MoonCat

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Yeah thats true 1987 was big with Sign
Can 2004 be third best???
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Reply #6 posted 12/13/04 9:05am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

'84. the success was fresh then.

CO-SIIIIIGN. nod thumbs up!
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Reply #7 posted 12/13/04 9:07am

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GaryMF said:

Without 1984 there would be no 2004.


Excellent follow up to what Handsa stated! nod
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Reply #8 posted 12/13/04 9:17am

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meltwithu said:

1984 or 2004--Prince's best damn year ever?

Actually, I would go with 1988 as his best year ever.
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Reply #9 posted 12/13/04 10:10am

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1984!!!
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Reply #10 posted 12/13/04 10:10am

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Any year before 1984 is WAY better than 2004. 2004 has been the best year of the new millenium.
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Reply #11 posted 12/13/04 11:01am

namepeace

MoonCat said:

Yeah thats true 1987 was big with Sign
Can 2004 be third best???


Whatever u say, m'dear . . . with a face like that, how could I say no?
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Reply #12 posted 12/13/04 11:18am

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1984 is when Prince became a superstar, that only happens once. Purple Rain was #1 for 6 months from August 1984 to January 1985. Purple Rain sold 15 million copies. The film Purple Rain made 70 million became one of the biggest hit movies of 1984. Called the best rock film ever made. Prince won a Oscar. When Doves Cry sold 2 million. it became the biggest hit of 1984. Lets Go Crazy was #1. The Purple Rain tour made 30 million from Nov. 1984 to April 1985.
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Reply #13 posted 12/13/04 11:56am

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vainandy said:

Any year before 1984 is WAY better than 2004. 2004 has been the best year of the new millenium.



Co-sign with the cute guy calling himself vainandy...
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Reply #14 posted 12/13/04 11:57am

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look at it globally, then you'll see that 2004 wasn't that big. Outside the US Prince has hardly had any press-coverage, video- & radio-airplay in 2004. There was no buzz like there was in 1984. 2004 really isn't that big, and I don't get it when people around here are talking about some sort of 'comeback'.
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Reply #15 posted 12/13/04 11:58am

abierman

also, no international tour. Neither did 1984 have one, but there was a movie.....
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Reply #16 posted 12/13/04 12:02pm

namepeace

abierman said:

look at it globally, then you'll see that 2004 wasn't that big. Outside the US Prince has hardly had any press-coverage, video- & radio-airplay in 2004. There was no buzz like there was in 1984. 2004 really isn't that big, and I don't get it when people around here are talking about some sort of 'comeback'.


Outside the US, Prince has maintained a fairly consistent profile and seems to be more respected as an artist than in his own country.

But I do agree. Relatively speaking, 2004 wasn't HUGE "huge" in commercial terms. Prince's tour played to SRO crowds for months. But his vids didn't saturate the airwaves and he sold maybe a coupla million units. So it's more like 1991 with better buzz.

That being said, Prince emerged from the hinterlands of the wilderness in 2004. Few ever thought Prince would chart, make magazine covers, etc. the way he did. In recent years, selling 200,000 albums was considered a success. So from an image standpoint, it was a momentous year, and maybe a watershed year for the remainder of his career.
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Reply #17 posted 12/13/04 2:35pm

abierman

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Outside the US, Prince has maintained a fairly consistent profile and seems to be more respected as an artist than in his own country.




Well, I guess you mean that people kept going to his concerts whenever he would tour? But that's because of the fact that 99.9% of the people who have ever seen him perform live will always return to see him again, no matter what shite-record he might have released.....I know I think like that! But seriously, what was his last commercial hit in Europe? I think it was 'The Mist Beautiful Girl In The World', over 10 years ago!
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Musicology (04) is exciting because its Prince's first hit album since Diamonds And Pearls (1991) 13 years ago! The song Musicology is Prince's first hit single since Beautiful Girl (94) 10 years ago! So this year is Prince's most successful year since 1991 when Cream was a #1 hit.
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Reply #19 posted 12/13/04 4:32pm

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rudeboynpg said:

Musicology (04) is exciting because its Prince's first hit album since Diamonds And Pearls (1991) 13 years ago! The song Musicology is Prince's first hit single since Beautiful Girl (94) 10 years ago! So this year is Prince's most successful year since 1991 when Cream was a #1 hit.



in the States.....TMBGITW was an international hit, Prince's one & only number 1 hit in the Netherlands, for instance.....
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Reply #20 posted 12/13/04 4:46pm

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GaryMF said:

Without 1984 there would be no 2004.

2004 was exciting, but mainly when set against the backdrop of 10+ years of boring, anti-climactic activity, that the general public was pretty much unaware of.

i agree. it's true. and without 1984 there would be slim percent of the world known to his provocative antics b4 he turned Jahova on us. not that that's bad. but his personality totally changed. i really liked 1984 so much better, yet in 2004 he's beginning to grow on me.
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Reply #21 posted 12/13/04 4:51pm

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I think 1984 would easily be his best damn year ever. Then because of that banner year, 1985 would be next.
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Reply #22 posted 12/13/04 8:28pm

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1984 will always be his best year. 2004 has been great, but '84 holds a sweetness that '04 doesn't have.
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Reply #23 posted 12/13/04 8:34pm

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cinnamonjo said:

vainandy said:

Any year before 1984 is WAY better than 2004. 2004 has been the best year of the new millenium.



Co-sign with the cute guy calling himself vainandy...


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Reply #24 posted 12/13/04 10:45pm

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In terms of personal success, I think '04. I think he feels very accomplished this year in terms of his personal life. In terms of commercial success, '84.
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Reply #25 posted 12/14/04 12:44am

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I'd say 1984 for something completely different! nothing to compare it to. BUT I'd say as a live performer 2004! prince is 100 times better live now they he was in 1984. I think back then he wanted to do to much and then sometimes there would be moments that would fall flat. Now and really year after year Prince has become a better live performer. Now he is perfect biggrin
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Reply #26 posted 12/14/04 2:41am

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Musicology (04) is exciting because its Prince's first hit album since Diamonds And Pearls (1991) 13 years ago! The song Musicology is Prince's first hit single since Beautiful Girl (94) 10 years ago! So this year is Prince's most successful year since 1991 when Cream was a #1 hit.


Was Musicology a hit single? D&P had 3 or 4 hit singles and the album sold rather than being given away. The real success seems to have been the tour, at least in the states. Worldwide there has been some media coverage but 2004 can't compare to 1984 in any way. If he'd promoted outside of the states things might have been different but in '84 he didn't have to.
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Reply #27 posted 12/14/04 3:22am

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back in 1984 Prince was a bad-ass.
in 2004 he tried to "teach" the bad-asses of this generation how to be soft.
a little too wimpy in 2004 im afraid.
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Reply #28 posted 12/14/04 4:18am

abierman

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rudeboynpg said:

Musicology (04) is exciting because its Prince's first hit album since Diamonds And Pearls (1991) 13 years ago! The song Musicology is Prince's first hit single since Beautiful Girl (94) 10 years ago! So this year is Prince's most successful year since 1991 when Cream was a #1 hit.


Was Musicology a hit single? D&P had 3 or 4 hit singles and the album sold rather than being given away. The real success seems to have been the tour, at least in the states. Worldwide there has been some media coverage but 2004 can't compare to 1984 in any way. If he'd promoted outside of the states things might have been different but in '84 he didn't have to.



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Reply #29 posted 12/14/04 8:30am

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sisforscandalous said:

i agree. it's true. and without 1984 there would be slim percent of the world known to his provocative antics b4 he turned Jahova on us. not that that's bad. but his personality totally changed. i really liked 1984 so much better, yet in 2004 he's beginning to grow on me.


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