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Reply #30 posted 11/28/04 8:26am

ChadtheRTF

Shyt, I like the Lovesexy band better than the Revolution and the current NPG lineup.
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Reply #31 posted 11/28/04 8:38am

homeandmantel

The Revolution, far and away,...

its not about musicainship, its about music!
The Beatles wernt the greatest musicians, but they made great music,
get it.
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Reply #32 posted 11/28/04 8:40am

Pagey

I like both for different reasons.

I like the Revolution for their adventurous nature and their personality. Wendy & Lisa were/are artists in their own right and contributed enormous amounts of creativity to the songs. Prince never has had a tighter keyboard player than Fink. That boy could play!

However...

The NPG has John Blackwell...the best drummer Prince ever has played with (including Sheila...but thats a close one!) and Rhonda slams that bass.

So what am I saying...

In a perfect world I like The New Power Revolution.
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Reply #33 posted 11/28/04 6:36pm

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I think the Revolution is just more popular to real Prince fans. I mean, it appeared that everyone knew he had a guitarist named Wendy and a keyboardist named Lisa. How many people know the members of his band now. That brings me to this: His current band members are musicians in their own right. They've done their own music and can help Prince create the right sound. The Revolution was a basic group that Prince was the frontman and Mr. Everything for. They were right for him at the time, but now he has a solid band. I saw the show in August in DC for the first time - the NPG kicked ass from the first to the final second of the show.
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Reply #34 posted 11/28/04 6:38pm

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NPG are better Musicians. Revolution were a better band. Know what I'm saying? biggrin
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Reply #35 posted 11/28/04 6:39pm

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okay muthars think on it this way the only reason the revolution and the npg exist is beacause the man aint no fuckin octupuss!! he can play most things but 4 the sake of a tour he needs a band cause he aint got 12 arms 2 play the shit out of his sound, lets face it his best work has come from albums he locks himself away 2 record SOTT, MUSICOLOGY etc.. sure the bands are great (better than most of the shit out today) but the man bleeds the sound. no contest PRINCE rules over them both. can u dig it?
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Reply #36 posted 11/28/04 6:40pm

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well im a fan of them both but if i had 2 choose it would be the revolution cause even as a background band they got the crowd jumpin, npg does 2 but in a grown up jazzy type
all my friends call me prince all the women call me electric man cause baby when i plug into your socket i charge u like nobody can
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Reply #37 posted 11/28/04 10:07pm

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EverlastingNow said:


Parade!!! worship headbang LOVED Musicology but there ain't no touching the 86 Revolution live or in the studio!!


Parade RULES!
worship worship worship
The greatest thing Prince has ever done!!!!
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Reply #38 posted 11/28/04 10:27pm

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"lets face it his best work has come from albums he locks himself away 2 record SOTT, MUSICOLOGY".....

those two in one sentence as the best lol . SOTT I will agree to but Musicology naaaahh
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Reply #39 posted 11/29/04 12:02am

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I honestly can't see why anyone would say The Revolution here...I mean there's no way around it, The current NPG members r just more talented AND they have more personal style( I don't know about that Chance Howard dude though). Seriously, they perform the older Revolution...better...that the Revolution did, as well as playing and helping create the new shit.

I don't see how this is a contest.

All U have to do is Listen to Girl's and Boy's and Peach form the Aftershow CD...The revolution could have NEVER...not even in their imaginations...accomplished that. Yes I do consider thos trax accomplishments.
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Reply #40 posted 11/29/04 4:56am

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Revolution all the way. Great music, great era, great band.

Are the NPG comparatively better musicians? Probably, but that is really at the bottom of my list of things I look for in good pop music.


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Reply #41 posted 11/29/04 5:22am

TheFrog

The Revolution please. cool

the old music, the old fashioned way (none of this lets-arrange-every-song-with-horns shit)
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Reply #42 posted 11/29/04 8:09am

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TheNewPowerMan said:

The Revolution 1984 was:
Wendy Melvoin - guitar
Brown Mark - bass
Matt Fink & Lisa Coleman - keyboards
Bobby Z. Rivkin - drums

The New Power Generation 2004 is:
Mike Scott - guitar
Rhonda Smith - bass
Renato Neto - keyboards
Chance Howard - keyboards & vox
John Blackwell - drums
Maceo Parker & Candy Dulfer - sax
Greg Boyer - trombone

I like The New Power Generation definitely more than The Revolution. Which band do u prefer?

Npg2- great musicians.
Revolution-The real purple vibe!!!
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Reply #43 posted 11/29/04 8:11am

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the pre-revolution. the current npg band ain't too shabby, tho'.
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Reply #44 posted 11/29/04 8:20am

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The NPG has better musicianship and sound quality

but the Revolution had more personality seemed funner and more energetic
If you will, so will I
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Reply #45 posted 11/29/04 10:34pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

I honestly can't see why anyone would say The Revolution here...I mean there's no way around it, The current NPG members r just more talented AND they have more personal style( I don't know about that Chance Howard dude though). Seriously, they perform the older Revolution...better...that the Revolution did, as well as playing and helping create the new shit.

I don't see how this is a contest.

All U have to do is Listen to Girl's and Boy's and Peach form the Aftershow CD...The revolution could have NEVER...not even in their imaginations...accomplished that. Yes I do consider thos trax accomplishments.
[Edited 11/29/04 0:04am]


The new band is tight and amazing musicians and I love them, but they don't have the magic the Revolution had. Wendy and Lisa's vocals on the Parade tour are unmatched and don't get me started on the funk they'd bring to Head or the beauty of Mountains live. There has been many NPG's, but only ONE Revolution.
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Reply #46 posted 11/29/04 11:03pm

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The "Revolution" Prince makes the "NPG" Prince look like a bitch.
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Reply #47 posted 11/29/04 11:43pm

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EverlastingNow said:

BobGeorge909 said:

I honestly can't see why anyone would say The Revolution here...I mean there's no way around it, The current NPG members r just more talented AND they have more personal style( I don't know about that Chance Howard dude though). Seriously, they perform the older Revolution...better...that the Revolution did, as well as playing and helping create the new shit.

I don't see how this is a contest.

All U have to do is Listen to Girl's and Boy's and Peach form the Aftershow CD...The revolution could have NEVER...not even in their imaginations...accomplished that. Yes I do consider thos trax accomplishments.
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The new band is tight and amazing musicians and I love them, but they don't have the magic the Revolution had. Wendy and Lisa's vocals on the Parade tour are unmatched and don't get me started on the funk they'd bring to Head or the beauty of Mountains live. There has been many NPG's, but only ONE Revolution.





U know...U're right. The new Band doesn't have any "magic"....








...CUZ THEY DON'T NEED ANY "magic." They're that good to begin with. Maybe if what makes a band good and creative is a couple of half dressed chicks who can play guitar and keyboards, then yeah...Revolution wins. Otherwise, bother someone else with your argument.


Who plays better drums...Bobby Z or Blackwell....Blackwell

Who Plays Better Keys...Fink or Renato....it's close, but Renato

Who plays better Bass...Brown Mark(on ya draws) or Rhonda....That's an easy win for Rhonda

Lisa Might win versus Chance...but their positions rn't integral enuff to matter...plus that CHance dude gets on my nerves. Chance doesn't seem to have a purpose but to look fat. So Yes...Lisa Deffinately wins that one.

Better rhythm...Miko or Scott...Scott wins...even without putting curtains on the brim of his hat.



For the most part...the NPG musicians r older and more accomplished. There is no way the Revolution can win...they were a bunch of coked out kids....Yeah, they had energy and a great band leader...but that was it.



Look at it this way. Would U hope that Prince and his band got better after 20 years...or worse. Anyone's band (who stayed in the business the whole time) would be better based on experience alone. Remember 20 years...that's a LONG time to be playing to end up with a band that's worse than when U started.

PS: after I posted this I reliased Miko wasn't in the revolution but that curtain joke is too funny to take out. I'm pretty sure though that Scott can pummel those revolution guitarist.
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Reply #48 posted 11/29/04 11:51pm

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paisleypark4 said:

soulyacolia said:

If it hadn't been for The Revolution there would be no NPG nod


Yet, if it wasnt for the dismandling of Revolution there would be no NPG..think about it differently..

And yes (2 me)..NPG 04 is ahead of Revolution. He wouldve been so washed up if he still had them in the group.



I COMPLETELY agree with you on this.
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Reply #49 posted 11/29/04 11:52pm

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As songwriters, no Prince band yet can beat The Revolution in all its forms (Andre Cymone, Dez Dickerson, Lisa Coleman, Wendy Melvoin, Mark Brown, Matt Fink, and Bobby "river run dry" Z.) -- ALL of whom have gone on to produce and write songs for others. I'd much rather listen to their music than the jazz-lite of NPG (tho they are much-respected musicians). The recent Musicology tour had the NPG playing mostly Revolution songs... and that says what?
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Reply #50 posted 11/29/04 11:58pm

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Snap said:

As songwriters, no Prince band yet can beat The Revolution in all its forms (Andre Cymone, Dez Dickerson, Lisa Coleman, Wendy Melvoin, Mark Brown, Matt Fink, and Bobby "river run dry" Z.) -- ALL of whom have gone on to produce and write songs for others. I'd much rather listen to their music than the jazz-lite of NPG (tho they are much-respected musicians). The recent Musicology tour had the NPG playing mostly Revolution songs... and that says what?


It says that was when Prince was most popular. It doesn't say a lot about his level of talent or the level of talent in his band. It does say a lot about the marketing division at Warners. Brittany Spears got about that popular...even more popular...does that mean she's a great performer or songwriter? Can her backup dancers out dance other backup dancers?
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Reply #51 posted 11/30/04 12:21am

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BobGeorge909 said:

Snap said:

As songwriters, no Prince band yet can beat The Revolution in all its forms (Andre Cymone, Dez Dickerson, Lisa Coleman, Wendy Melvoin, Mark Brown, Matt Fink, and Bobby "river run dry" Z.) -- ALL of whom have gone on to produce and write songs for others. I'd much rather listen to their music than the jazz-lite of NPG (tho they are much-respected musicians). The recent Musicology tour had the NPG playing mostly Revolution songs... and that says what?


It says that was when Prince was most popular. It doesn't say a lot about his level of talent or the level of talent in his band. It does say a lot about the marketing division at Warners. Brittany Spears got about that popular...even more popular...does that mean she's a great performer or songwriter? Can her backup dancers out dance other backup dancers?
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Ah come on now, you're lying to yourself if you say that The Revolution songs aren't better (as a whole) than the NPG songs. Can you really compare anything Prince has done in the last few years with 1982 thru 1986?
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Reply #52 posted 11/30/04 1:13am

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I like them both. They were perfect for the period of time that they played with Prince.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #53 posted 11/30/04 1:34am

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BobGeorge909 said:

Chance doesn't seem to have a purpose but to look fat.

There is no way the Revolution can win...they were a bunch of coked out kids....



CLASSIC!! lol
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Reply #54 posted 11/30/04 4:01am

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I like both, but The Revolution period was the best.
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Reply #55 posted 11/30/04 8:06am

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NouveauDance said:

Revolution all the way. Great music, great era, great band.

Are the NPG comparatively better musicians? Probably, but that is really at the bottom of my list of things I look for in good pop music.


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Yes, why look for good musicians when listening to pop music (LOL).
People on this board complain about the crappy music that is out right now but obviously people on this board are pretty statisfied with it.
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Reply #56 posted 11/30/04 8:08am

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laurarichardson said:

NouveauDance said:

Revolution all the way. Great music, great era, great band.

Are the NPG comparatively better musicians? Probably, but that is really at the bottom of my list of things I look for in good pop music.


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Yes, why look for good musicians when listening to pop music (LOL).
People on this board complain about the crappy music that is out right now but obviously people on this board are pretty statisfied with it.


hey, nobody's going to claim that the greatest Punk bands were the tightest musicians.

it's not always about being tehnically proficient...
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Reply #57 posted 11/30/04 8:09am

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paisleypark4 said:

soulyacolia said:

If it hadn't been for The Revolution there would be no NPG nod


Yet, if it wasnt for the dismandling of Revolution there would be no NPG..think about it differently..

And yes (2 me)..NPG 04 is ahead of Revolution. He wouldve been so washed up if he still had them in the group.

i agree 110%
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Reply #58 posted 11/30/04 8:21am

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Ironically enough, I was just thinking about this on yesterday. The NPG is GREAT, but I will have to go with the Revolution. There was just something about them. To me, the NPG in all of it's forms has come across as a "backing" band for Prince. Musicians that work for Prince. The Revolution seemed to be a entity in of itself. It was a unit. It had a personality of it's own. The Revolution seemed as if they were actually a part of Prince. Even when Eric, Atlanta, Susannah, Mico, Jerome, Wally and Greg were added to the group, it still felt more "gelled" together than the NPG.

Musically speaking, I am still sticking with the Revolution. I love the NPG and their funky/jazzy style, but the Revolution just took me to a whole new level.
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Reply #59 posted 11/30/04 10:12pm

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BobGeorge909 said:

EverlastingNow said:




The new band is tight and amazing musicians and I love them, but they don't have the magic the Revolution had. Wendy and Lisa's vocals on the Parade tour are unmatched and don't get me started on the funk they'd bring to Head or the beauty of Mountains live. There has been many NPG's, but only ONE Revolution.





U know...U're right. The new Band doesn't have any "magic"....








...CUZ THEY DON'T NEED ANY "magic." They're that good to begin with. Maybe if what makes a band good and creative is a couple of half dressed chicks who can play guitar and keyboards, then yeah...Revolution wins. Otherwise, bother someone else with your argument.


Who plays better drums...Bobby Z or Blackwell....Blackwell

Who Plays Better Keys...Fink or Renato....it's close, but Renato

Who plays better Bass...Brown Mark(on ya draws) or Rhonda....That's an easy win for Rhonda

Lisa Might win versus Chance...but their positions rn't integral enuff to matter...plus that CHance dude gets on my nerves. Chance doesn't seem to have a purpose but to look fat. So Yes...Lisa Deffinately wins that one.

Better rhythm...Miko or Scott...Scott wins...even without putting curtains on the brim of his hat.



For the most part...the NPG musicians r older and more accomplished. There is no way the Revolution can win...they were a bunch of coked out kids....Yeah, they had energy and a great band leader...but that was it.



Look at it this way. Would U hope that Prince and his band got better after 20 years...or worse. Anyone's band (who stayed in the business the whole time) would be better based on experience alone. Remember 20 years...that's a LONG time to be playing to end up with a band that's worse than when U started.

PS: after I posted this I reliased Miko wasn't in the revolution but that curtain joke is too funny to take out. I'm pretty sure though that Scott can pummel those revolution guitarist.
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NPG is great but you could duplicate their sound with any session player, you just couldn't do that with the Revolution,sorry you lose.

P.S.

Your Miko curtain joke wasn't even funny so you kind of lost twice. lol Plus if you knew what you were talking about you'd know that Miko WAS in the Revolution!! guitar
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