Hi everyone! so I dont usually start threads
due to fear of rejection but here goes...

I recently bought Chaos and Disorder and despite its
lack of popularity and acclaim, I really like it!
He really rocks on this album and that I love. I really enjoy his songs
with heavy guitar parts.

Im listening to it right now and I havent skipped a single track
Though Dig U Better Dead is on now, and Im wondering...
No I like it!

So I guess Im wondering what everybody else thinks!

I havent overanalyzed the lyrics yet,
so my opinion is solely based on the jam factor



and hey, Im jammin!
[Edited 11/11/04 12:42pm]

the album is pretty good if it wasnt 4 right the wrong.Songs like into the light and I like it there are imo better than most of the songs on Emancipation

"C&D" seems to be one of those overlooked albums - I dug it out recently and was surprised at how good it is as a whole.

My highlights - "Zannalee" (rocks live), "Chaos & Disorder" (love the screaming vocals on this one) and "Had U" (weird but wonderful - can't ever imagine Prince singing this live - but if he did, it would have to be sung in the dark, wouldn't it??)

Had U is full of creepy goodness
but too short! and Zannalee is probaly my fav
off this one so far (Im replaying it now)

in2 the light and i will are bloody classics
the most underrated prince album

I like it very much!

terribly underrated
with the right press and a good first single
could have been a hit (IMO)


but who needs hits when your Prince

This is a great,wait,very good album...Into the light is up lifting,i still love that track now. And HAD U.had cause to play again lately and YEP !!!
Zannalee again,makes me wanna lick myself.
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Nemo said:

[Edited 11/11/04 13:41pm]

i love the guitar-heavy songs
could do without the rest
i just don't get "i will" or "n2 the light"
"curious child" from Emancipation kills those two dead

It's amazing how many fans still give this album a stigma of 'oh it's all crap he just put out to fill his contract'.

This makes me think they consider it to be recorded with this in mind.

Much like the Black Album and it's so-called negativity, the source of C&D's mediocrity was not in the recording, but in the compilation of the CD.

True it was compiled as a quick filler, same goes for The Vault and Come, but the songs were not originally recorded for such purposes (like The Black Album, which is why I use that analogy).

There are some cracking tracks on C&D - one of my favourite 90s tracks, I Like It There, for example.

Looking at it, there really are very few bum-notes on the album - I Rock Therefore I Am, the synths and Rosie are great, but that God-awful ragga rapper, I dunno what Prince was thinking there!

Dig U Better Dead is pretty flacid, of course Right The Wrong, but to be honest, like Wedding Feast, there's a comic element to it's musical style (and to be honest, I can listen to RTW a lot more comfortably than I can Dig U Better Dead). Forget Had U, it's not even a song, like Orgasm.

So even after 3 ropey tracks, you're left with a kick ass rocker (I Like It There), a cute melodic pop track (Dinner With Delores), the anthemic Same December, the slightly over-produced blues of Zannalee, the rock-jam of the title track, and the beautiful, episodic balladry of I Will / Into The Light.

There's more tracks that I like on C&D than there is on Musicology.

i love it that every few weeks a C&D appreciation thread pops up...i think it's got some criminally underrated material on it, and even the dumb songs on it have a fair amount of fun and listenability to them.

Wow Nouveau, well said!
I agree all the way
and right now I would much rather hear
C&D over Musicology.
I hope the next album will have a more rock/funk edge
to it, cause IMO thats when hes at his best


PS thanks for all the responses everybody
I love that you guys can appriciate this one

Before I bought it I was afraid it was reguarded with
the same opinion of NPS and Jughead
glad its not

thekidsgirl said:

FUCK ALL THE HATERS!!!!! THIS ALBUM ROCKS!
[Edited 11/11/04 18:20pm]

Haaaaated it at first. But it really did grow on me. Think it's worst crime is that it's overarranged in places. But it's also overflowing with ideas.

It's a good album. Could have been absolutely great if he'd left off
those very very silly tracks (Right The Wrong/I Rock There4 I Am) &
had instead included "Empty Room" -like it was first intended, and
perhaps a song like "Calhoun Sq" or "Da Bang" or something.

Think about it:

01. Chaos & Disorder
02. I Like It There
03. Dinner With Delores
04. Same December
05. Calhoun Sq
06. Da Bang
07. Into The Light
08. I Will
09. Zanalee
10. Hide The Bone
11. Empty Room
12. Had U

Well, or at least something like that. I'm still amazed why he decided to
include a few of those awfull songs on that album when it's obvious that he
has dozens of brilliant tunes lying around.

I mean, something like "I Rock There4 I Am" is a work out at best, but it
should never have been included on this album. Sounds like a bad Diamonds &
Pearls outtake to me.

I usually only listen to the first two tracks on this album.

Both this album and Come are very underated...transitional period in his career...Zanalee is great as is Right the Wrong

This one doesn't quite get the attention it deserves.



(I dig it.)

I like Chaos & Disorder, too and just recently bought that and Scandalous Sex Suite. (Wanted the Japanese export edition, but hard as hell 2 find.) C &D is far from my favorte, but I like Into The Light, I Rock, There 4 I Am, I Will, Dig U Better Dead, & Had U. had U kinda creeprs me out a little, though. It reminds me a a sleazy man doing everything he could just to get some, and then dumping her afterward.

PageTurner said:

there's some freakin' phenomenally beautiful energy on both "come" and "chaos and disorder" - it was like some kind of pent-up, skeletal, multicolored temper tantrum of a funk stew that was bubbling out of the pot and making a mess on the stove. i didn't appreciate that era then as much as i do now (though i LOVED chaos and disorder when i first heard it because - finally! - a guitar-based prince album again!), but looking back on it, i can't deny there was a lot of good stuff happening musically.

Anxiety said:

I remember really loving those records. It was Emancipation that caused my faith in the man to begin to wane... ironically, @ the time it came out I really liked NPS, but hearing it now is like sticking sensitive parts of my body in a belt sander. Really I have to say that those two records were like a final dying burst of energy before a final decent into irrelevance. I kind of liked that NPG record that was only in Euro distribution during that time... "The Exodus Has Begun" was a real Parliament esq track. I still think it' both funky and funny AS HELL.

I really liked both Come and Chaos. Dinner With Dolores is a fave. The whole rock vibe was awesome. Dark is another favorite.

Miguel

I was amazed by the negative reviews for this album. It's his only rock album other than Purple Rain, so I figured it'd be a hit.

It's much more fun than Emancipation. I really thought he was on a roll releasing C&D, Emancipation, Crystal Ball, The Truth, & NPS (another underrated album IMO) within about a 2 year span.

I love Rainbow Children & like Musicology, but the Vaults didn't stay open, did they?

i would like to apoligize for hans's behavior.

NouveauDance said:

There you go again. Great post. I love it when I'm reading what I would think before I've thought it out if you know what I mean.

I just want to add on a personal note that this is my favorite Prince album for reasons I can't (and don't care to) explain. There's just something about it.

I also bought this 'album' recently, (cause I want to have them all)
and I heard it ones and any comparisation to Purple Rain is false.
My least favorite album.

It's marred--heavily marred--by tracks like Right the Wrong and I Rock, Therefore..., so it's hard to say it's a great "album." Yeah, there are a few standout tracks, but it's hardly a great album, or for that matter, even a very good album.

I honestly haven't listened to this album much; it's collecting dust...I may give it a spin soon...

I love this album! For the most part, its Prince the way I like him. Rockin hard and funky. Dinner With Delores is really underrated, IMO. I did, however, have to substitute Endorphin Machine and 319 for I Rock... and Dig u... Those two just sucked!