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Thread started 11/12/04 6:20pm

Snake

Princes Birth Chart: Take a peek

I was just courios how accurate Princes birthchart would be to his life and this is what it says. Just one version I can use other calculators to get other details.

I have various calculators on my page try them
http://members.migente.com/Atrologer/


His elements:
Signs of fire 4
Signs of earth 1
Signs of air 3
Signs of water 2

His Qualities
Signs cardinals 2
Signs fixed 4
Signs mutable 4

This birth chart shows the positions of the planets of Prince

The sun represents vitality, a sense of individuality and outward-shining creative energy.

Sun in Gemini

He is an opportunist. He can express himself easily and learns quickly. He is welcoming and gentle. He likes travel and intellectual work.

Weaknesses: a changeable and diffuse nature. Wastes energy by doing too many things. He lacks persistence in achieving set goals.

Gemini ascendant Scorpio

Sun in VII

Marriage or living together with someone of superior intelligence.

51 Trine Sun - Jupiter

He has high social ambitions, respects justice and the law. He is tolerant, optimistic, kindly. He has every chance for professional success in a strictly legal setting.

-88 Opposition Sun - Saturn

This implies slow intellectual development. The moon represents a reaction, unconscious pre-destination, and the self-image.

Moon in Pisces

Imaginative, sharp insights. He is impressionable, with an abundant imagination. Multiple births.

Weaknesses: troubles caused by too much sentimentality, worries, problems, unhealthy imagination, nervousness.

Moon in IV

He likes family life, peace and quiet: he likes to stay at home, surrounded by loved ones, in agreeable circumstances. Positively influenced by the mother.

-163 Square Moon - Mercury

He is happy in his imaginary world and thus is happy nowhere, because he can never find his ideal world - thus causing a lot of change, instability and also disquiet. He is a liar, a gossip and leaves himself open to criticism. His lies save him. If the other aspects allow, he can be a very good novelist.

105 Trine Moon - Neptune

-155 Opposition Moon - Pluto

He has problems in love. He is jealous, his self-esteem is often quickly held up to ridicule.

Mercury represents communication, Cartesian and logical spirit.

Mercury in Gemini

Quick and alert mind. Suited to lengthy research. Likes changes and travel, he is always on the search for novelty. Likes movement and commotion. Facility with the spoken word. He likes writing.

Weaknesses: excitable in the extreme, mental strain.

Mercury in VII

Hates being alone. He has lots of friends, likes to discuss and similarly has a lot of work friends. Likes to write.

178 Sextile Mercury - Mars

He likes to discuss, likes polemic. He has good judgement and is determined. He is a worker and has lots of energy. He has a lively intelligence and goes to the heart of things.

16 Sextile Mercury - Uranus

He is perspicacious, ingenious: he binds intelligence and originality together with genius. He likes literature, especially fiction. He is spontaneous in his friendships and knows how to take advantage of the situations that arise.

-41 Square Mercury - Pluto

He is impatient. He likes contradiction and is irascible. His arguments are noisy and animated.

Venus represents an interest for emotions and values, exchange and sharing with others.

Venus in Taurus

Amiability and fidelity. Likes to please and dress up. Earns a good living. He is generous but not extravagant. Affectionate, sensual and loving in nature, he likes the good things of Life, sensitive to beauty, melodious sounds, perfumes. Love arrives slowly, without passion but with force. Love is lasting.

Weaknesses: indolence, laziness, immoderate taste for pleasures of Life, gambling, entertainment and luxury.

Venus in VI

He is devoted to sick or poor people. Certainly works in a medical or social setting, where he meets their partner, who is a great help professionally.

-89 Square Venus - Uranus

He looks for new sensations in love and is often unsatisfied by affairs which quickly turn into purely conventional relationships. He likes novelty, adventure, the eccentric: he is frivolous, unstable, unfaithful. Marriage is not for him and, if he does throw himself into this adventure, it will end in divorce, written off as a youthful mistake. As a result of his numerous love affairs, he makes sure his line is continued.

-105 Opposition Venus - Neptune

He lacks self-confidence and his ideals are not easily to achieve. In love, he is unstable, unfaithful and deceitful. He is easy-going and follows others, he does not take the initiative.

2 Trine Venus - Pluto

His emotional and sex life is powerful and rich. He lives out truly passionate love affairs.

-3 Opposition Venus - Ascendant

He goes to excess in his pleasures, frequents doubtful company. He lacks good taste. He is very spendthrift, but spreads his money around his circle. His friends are more self-interested than sincere.

Mars represents the desire for action and physical energy.

Mars in Aries

He is aggressive, offensive, impulsive, provoking. He is bold and adventurous.

Weaknesses: aggressiveness, boldness that can lead to violence, or to an accident, but certainly leads to problems.

Mars in IV

Quick decisions, he has a lot of things on his plate and wants to climb the social ladder. He will succeed through phenomenal work-rate. Stormy family life, where his aggressiveness shows itself.

Jupiter represents expansion and grace.

Jupiter in Libra

A high liver with a sweet, attractive and sunny disposition. Likes justice, which he trusts. He knows how to forgive completely.

Weaknesses: he can have problems, because he gets involved in doubtful situations through trusting too much.

Jupiter in XI

He is cooperative, organizes everyone. He climbs the social ladder thanks to help from friends and acquaintances who are chosen, not for their qualities, but for the advantages they can bring. He achieves his objectives.

147 Sextile Jupiter - Saturn

He is serious, patient, honest, hard-working, orderly. His judgement is good and he thinks over things. He pursues his objectives to the bitter end, always knowing when to choose the right moment. He is upright and respects the law.

Saturn represents contraction and effort.

Saturn in Sagittarius

He has his own way of thinking about a subject, he has his own ideas about things. He respects society and its rules guide his conduct.

Weaknesses: hard, unforgiving, rigorous, insensitive and sometimes inhuman. A limited and narrow mind.

Saturn in II

If he is rich, will always give the impression of being in financial difficulties. If he is broke, he gives the same impression - this time with reason. He has difficulty earning money: his work is tiresome and laborious.

6 Trine Saturn - Pluto

He perseveres, achieves his projects through hard work.

Uranus represents individual liberty, egoistic liberty.

Uranus in Leo

He is self-contained, resolute, tenacious. Likes freedom of action and independence.

Uranus in IX

Interested in humanity. He is highly intellectual. He travels a lot. His mind is always alert, even when sleeping, during which time he often resolves the problems of the previous day.

Neptune represents transcendental liberty, non-egoistic liberty.

Neptune in Scorpio

Investigation, inquiry, secrets.

Neptune in XII

He likes isolation, a withdrawn life, dreams and meditation. He has little desire for action.

31 Sextile Neptune - Pluto

Pluto represents transformations, mutations and elimination.

Pluto in Leo

Gives him all his strength.

House I is the area of self identity. The ascendant is a symbol of how one acts in life. It is the image of the personality as seen by other, and the attitude that one has of life.

Gemini ascendant Scorpio

Ascendant in Scorpio

Emotional life certainly very changeable. Lovers will come and go, and then come back again. Sexuality is very important for him, for his stability.

House II is the area of material security.

House II in Sagittarius

Social success in one of the professions or in an import/export company dealing regularly with foreign countries.

House III is the area of social and intellectual learning.

House III in Capricorn

Nothing is left to chance, everything is calculated, dissected slowly and methodically, twice rather than once, in peace and quiet by himself. He is introverted, and doesn't speak about his plans until they are underway.

House IV is the area of action and emotion.

House IV in Aquarius

He will leave the family home reasonably young. Likes liberty, wants a life that is out-of-the-ordinary, and certainly one that does not correspond with mum and dad's.

House V is the area of self-security.

House V in Aries

Full of initiative. Things are done to the full, with energy, vigor and strength of purpose: It is the same with love life. Children will be hardy and rarely ill.

House VI is the area of learning by material transaction.

House VI in Aries

Ability to command, knows how to take up his responsibilities at work. Weak point: headaches, fevers.

House VII is the area of social et intellectual action.

House VII in Taurus

Marries for love but also well financially. A peaceful union even if exchange of ideas isn't always smooth.

House VIII is the area of emotional security and of security of the soul.

House VIII in Gemini

If he is a writer, a painter or involved in another of the Arts, and if fame doesn't come when living, then it will come posthumously. Small inheritance from near relations. Take care of the lungs - if a smoker, then it is advisable to stop.

House IX is the area of learning that shapes the identity.

House IX in Cancer

Fertile imagination. He is easily influenced. Likes travel, especially cruises.

House X is the area of material action. The Mid-heaven represents the work one will do in his life, the place one will take in the world of society. It becomes more important as one grows older

House X in Leo

All the leadership qualities are there: authority, sense of organization, initiative, intelligence, but also thanks to outside help. He is a fighter.

House XI is the area of search for social and intellectual security.

House XI in Libra

Looks for friends among "well-placed" people, artists known even regionally, influential people in society, the social or political world, likes high class evenings.

House XII is the area of education and of emotion.


House XII in Libra

Marriage doesn't bring luck, honors come as he imagined they might.
We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced
when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #1 posted 11/12/04 7:42pm

meow85

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hmmm
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #2 posted 11/12/04 7:52pm

IBSTROLLIN

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confuse
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Reply #3 posted 11/12/04 7:59pm

darlinkia

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WTF...


very random


& i say "y???"


wacky
"...took my sex and my money...took all my self esteem...had the nerve 2 think it was funny...i never knew a bitch so mean"
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Reply #4 posted 11/12/04 8:07pm

babynoz

Hi Snake,

Your link isn't working for me but I have his chart, which I read some time ago. From reading your posts the placements seem correct but the reading is somewhat superficial. For example, when considering the qualities and elements you have to conclude;

Cardinal 2
Fixed 9
Mutable4

and

Fire 6
Air 4
Earth 1
Water 4

This is because you have to include the Part of Fortune, North Node, Chiron, MC and AC in the calculation, which makes the picture a bit clearer.

Furthermore when considering planet in sign and house you have to determine if the planet is dignified or debilitated, retrograde or direct as well as the aspects they make to one another. There's many more factors, but you get the idea.

Without putting too much of the man's "bidness" in the street, IMO, some key factors in his chart are Asc in Sco, Pluto conj the MC in Leo opp Moon in Pis
in the 4th. The Moon trines Jup and N Node in the 12th. Add to that Mars in Aries in the 5th trine Uranus and Part of Fortune in the 9th and you get an idea of the incredible power and turbulence within his being. The creative outlet for all of this energy is clearly seen as well.

Like I said, I don't want to get too personal on a public forum. Are you a serious astrologer? If so, you can drop me a note.
cool
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #5 posted 11/12/04 8:21pm

Dewrede

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This all seems quite complicated
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Reply #6 posted 11/12/04 8:33pm

Snake

Oh, I have that info I just didn't want to give more than could be understood.
All you have to do is copy paste the link. I'm surprised at how little mutable signs he has and how many Fixed. I can hear the Fire (passion) in his music and the Water (emotion) and his Cardinal signs are about right. Believe me it's a wonder he's become so accessable lately. My Girl friend has it worse. She's has a Pisces Rising & Moon In the 1st house with 2 cardinal signs,but she's a Leo so she's a show off to some extent but very pivate and hides her feelings. Just like he used to be.May be if this post gets popular I'l show a different calculation to shine more light on the subject.

babynoz said:

Hi Snake,

Your link isn't working for me but I have his chart, which I read some time ago. From reading your posts the placements seem correct but the reading is somewhat superficial. For example, when considering the qualities and elements you have to conclude;

Cardinal 2
Fixed 9
Mutable4

and

Fire 6
Air 4
Earth 1
Water 4

This is because you have to include the Part of Fortune, North Node, Chiron, MC and AC in the calculation, which makes the picture a bit clearer.

Furthermore when considering planet in sign and house you have to determine if the planet is dignified or debilitated, retrograde or direct as well as the aspects they make to one another. There's many more factors, but you get the idea.

Without putting too much of the man's "bidness" in the street, IMO, some key factors in his chart are Asc in Sco, Pluto conj the MC in Leo opp Moon in Pis
in the 4th. The Moon trines Jup and N Node in the 12th. Add to that Mars in Aries in the 5th trine Uranus and Part of Fortune in the 9th and you get an idea of the incredible power and turbulence within his being. The creative outlet for all of this energy is clearly seen as well.

Like I said, I don't want to get too personal on a public forum. Are you a serious astrologer? If so, you can drop me a note.
cool
We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced
when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #7 posted 11/13/04 9:11am

yrh

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I always thought you get a more accurate reading if you know what time the person was born? Or do you know what time he was born? I like that. I will read more of it later. Thanks biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 11/13/04 4:29pm

babynoz

Hi Snake,

LOL, you would think there would be more mutable signs until you remember how determined and purposeful he can be. And it does kinda make up for the small amount of earth.

Do you think his recent trend of accessibility could have been activated by transit or is it something more permanent??

Since most have expressed utter confusion about this thread and the info is of a rather personal nature you could drop me a note.....I'd be interested to hear more of your insights. smile

PS., your friend is double Pisces w/ Leo sun? Do tell!
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #9 posted 11/13/04 4:32pm

babynoz

yrh said:

I always thought you get a more accurate reading if you know what time the person was born? Or do you know what time he was born? I like that. I will read more of it later. Thanks biggrin





Yes and yes. smile
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #10 posted 11/13/04 4:57pm

rainbowchild

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Get a life, man...too much time on your hands...
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #11 posted 11/13/04 6:40pm

Snake

Prince IS that YOU!!

rainbowchild said:

Get a life, man...too much time on your hands...
We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced
when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #12 posted 11/13/04 6:44pm

Snake

It said 6:45pm not exactly because I took the time and just used it. So
I'm just trying to remember at th moment. But te Time is known.
Because is rising sign is Scorpio
Mine is Gemini.

babynoz said:

yrh said:

I always thought you get a more accurate reading if you know what time the person was born? Or do you know what time he was born? I like that. I will read more of it later. Thanks biggrin





Yes and yes. smile
We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced
when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #13 posted 11/13/04 7:07pm

Mach

tried to go here
http://members.migente.com/Atrologer/

couldnt

sux
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Reply #14 posted 11/13/04 9:26pm

theoriginalQue
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...perhaps deeper than most folks can get 2 yet Beauteous 2 C...
...have U done a progression? people 4get we've been moving
through the galaxy & we're definately not N the same position
as calculations cast 2,000 years ago! did any of U see/feel
impact from Pluto retrograde during the middle of the year...
its influence might reflect Prince presenting a different view...
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Reply #15 posted 11/14/04 9:13am

CherrieMoonKis
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Im so in2 this stuff. woot! My sign is Scorpio with a rising of Virgo, Mars in Aries, Jupiter is Sag, Venus in Libra and Pluto in Scorpio. The rest of either in Gemini or Sag I believe.
peace & wildsign
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Reply #16 posted 11/14/04 10:23am

Snake

Oops I spelled it wrong in the link! This is it!
Paste it or click!

Mach said:

tried to go here
http://members.migente.com/Astrologer/

couldnt

sux
We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced
when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #17 posted 11/15/04 10:02am

Rebeka

I think you have to amalgamate some of the data, in it's raw form there will be contradictory elements.

I'd like to see the actual picture of the chart
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Reply #18 posted 11/15/04 12:26pm

Nila

babynoz said:

Hi Snake,

LOL, you would think there would be more mutable signs until you remember how determined and purposeful he can be. And it does kinda make up for the small amount of earth.

Do you think his recent trend of accessibility could have been activated by transit or is it something more permanent??

Since most have expressed utter confusion about this thread and the info is of a rather personal nature you could drop me a note.....I'd be interested to hear more of your insights. smile

PS., your friend is double Pisces w/ Leo sun? Do tell!


Hello, I don't really follow astrology, but I do think its interesting. I have noticed that Prince tends to open up when he is happier. Just like when he married his first wife, he did a TV interview with Oprah. He was a little more accessible then. Then as the realtionship fizzled, he went back to his introverted ways. I've also noticed that his writing is deeper (better in my opinion) when he is not the happiest in his life. Now he has a new wife and is happier and again he is more accessible. Just my opinion.
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