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Thread started 10/21/04 12:44am

jkj10

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Prince too religious?

Will Prince ever cut that God crap?...
Just as convinced as Prince is that ther's a God,I'm convinced ther isn't any,so don't bother me with that "God is love,love is God"crap..
You won't hear me sing :"girls and boys,please don't love God above"
He should give himself more credit for what he's done,instead of giving all the credits to God..
But I guess it's a part of American culture,giving thanks to God on your albums..Am I wrong?
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Reply #1 posted 10/21/04 12:56am

Emancipation88

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jkj10 said:

Prince too religious?




He should give himself more credit for what he's done,instead of giving all the credits to God..


He's not giving God credit for his work, his Thanking God for what his got.
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Reply #2 posted 10/21/04 1:06am

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"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."
-- Karl Marx,
Introduction to A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, 1844
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Reply #3 posted 10/21/04 1:48am

TheFrog

jkj10 said:

You won't hear me sing


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Reply #4 posted 10/21/04 4:00am

jkj10

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So,I guess I must be one of those few atheist prince fans.?
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Reply #5 posted 10/21/04 4:03am

jkj10

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avelvetsweat said:

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."
-- Karl Marx,
Introduction to A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, 1844

You like the religious Dylan too?...pff
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Reply #6 posted 10/21/04 4:11am

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I don't agree with his relgion, but I don't mind him expressing it - I mean if he puts his life in his art, isn't that a good thing?

It's not like him singing about God is a new thing.
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Reply #7 posted 10/21/04 4:43am

jkj10

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NouveauDance said:

I don't agree with his relgion, but I don't mind him expressing it - I mean if he puts his life in his art, isn't that a good thing?

It's not like him singing about God is a new thing.

True....I only wished he wouldn't sing about it in concert,though.
I mean..The Christ??It would be great in a gospel church...But not on my evening out,please..
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Reply #8 posted 10/21/04 4:52am

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I agree that Prince has gotten a little too religious lately to the point of sounding "preachy" but there is nothing wrong with giving thanks to God on all the albums. He cannot give himself credit for what he's done without giving credit to God for giving him the talent in the first place. Without his God given talent, he would be a nobody. He MUST give credit to God.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #9 posted 10/21/04 5:10am

mzflash

A man's religion is his own decision. If Prince can use his belief in God to multiply sales and at the same time get the word out that he is a spiritual man then that's good business.

What has bothered me about his religious quest is the way it's alienated some fans. Prince can make such powerful music and in the past it oozed with love in the inclusion of everyone. Love is large enough that it has the capacity to encompass everyone.

Lately it feels like in some of Prince's new music that "love" can/will only be shared with certain ones. I admit it. I miss the loving feeling that Prince gave to us in his earlier music. It was a beam of light, a ray of hope. I'm holding out, sure that one day, love will find a way.
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Reply #10 posted 10/21/04 8:10am

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Prince is OK singing about God... until he comes off as preaching his beliefs on you.

Otherwise, nothing wrong with acknowledging our creator, whether you believe in him or not.
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Reply #11 posted 10/21/04 8:16am

raveon2tnek

jkj10 said:

NouveauDance said:

I don't agree with his relgion, but I don't mind him expressing it - I mean if he puts his life in his art, isn't that a good thing?

It's not like him singing about God is a new thing.

True....I only wished he wouldn't sing about it in concert,though.
I mean..The Christ??It would be great in a gospel church...But not on my evening out,please..


its funny how u atheists end up mentioning christ in utterances!
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Reply #12 posted 10/21/04 9:21am

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NouveauDance said:

I don't agree with his relgion, but I don't mind him expressing it - I mean if he puts his life in his art, isn't that a good thing?

It's not like him singing about God is a new thing.


Simply put and true
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Reply #13 posted 10/21/04 9:23am

andykeen

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PRINCE has been rligious all hes life man, he has always sung about god, U sure U've got the rite kid?

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Reply #14 posted 10/21/04 10:08am

Universaluv

mzflash said:

A man's religion is his own decision. If Prince can use his belief in God to multiply sales and at the same time get the word out that he is a spiritual man then that's good business.

What has bothered me about his religious quest is the way it's alienated some fans. Prince can make such powerful music and in the past it oozed with love in the inclusion of everyone. Love is large enough that it has the capacity to encompass everyone.

Lately it feels like in some of Prince's new music that "love" can/will only be shared with certain ones. I admit it. I miss the loving feeling that Prince gave to us in his earlier music. It was a beam of light, a ray of hope. I'm holding out, sure that one day, love will find a way.


One of the attributes of Prince's persona (don't know about the man) has been the sense that there was a fierce independence to his art. There was a "This is what I think and fuck you if you don't like it" kind of attitude that roped alot of fans in, especially in the early days. And there was also a vague, psuedo-religious aspect to his music that was pretty broad and undefined.

But,

Now that independence seems to have found its way into his religion. It's odd, but not really surprising, that it seems to "alienate" people. Personally, I don't give a crap whether anybody here or anywhere else has religious beliefs that are inclusive enough to encompass my own or that I am comfortable with.


Why should Prince be the exception?

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[Edited 10/21/04 10:10am]
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Reply #15 posted 10/21/04 10:16am

TurnItUp

jkj10 said:

Will Prince ever cut that God crap?...
Just as convinced as Prince is that ther's a God,I'm convinced ther isn't any,so don't bother me with that "God is love,love is God"crap..
You won't hear me sing :"girls and boys,please don't love God above"
He should give himself more credit for what he's done,instead of giving all the credits to God..
But I guess it's a part of American culture,giving thanks to God on your albums..Am I wrong?


Look just because you are an atheist and don't believe in God don't be goin' around speadin' that shit to nobody else. Just like nobody can force religion on you, you can't force your non-religion on nobody. When yaw get in trouble or danger comes your way ya'll the first muthaf**as to call out God and you don't even believe in HIM.

I don't think Prince cares nothin' about you not saying God is love, love is God and lastly, God ain't the crap. YOU ARE!

You got somethin' else to say, we can keep arguin' in circles till they put the lock on this mutha! mad
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Reply #16 posted 10/21/04 10:18am

TurnItUp

Emancipation88 said:

jkj10 said:

Prince too religious?




He should give himself more credit for what he's done,instead of giving all the credits to God..


He's not giving God credit for his work, his Thanking God for what his got.


Yes he is giving him the credit. Prince didn't do all that himself. God gave him the give to be a talent. None of us can't do nothin' without God. I ain't trying to hear you naysayers
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Reply #17 posted 10/21/04 10:19am

TurnItUp

TheBatman said:

Prince is OK singing about God... until he comes off as preaching his beliefs on you.

Otherwise, nothing wrong with acknowledging our creator, whether you believe in him or not.


Thank you. The best comment on this tread. I agree with U 100%
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Reply #18 posted 10/21/04 10:20am

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jkj10 said:

Will Prince ever cut that God crap?

obviously, no. he's been thankin god on his albums from the very beginning (i know full-well you've read the liner notes on each of his albums). once again, i don't see why ya'll are so bothered by this. neutral
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Reply #19 posted 10/21/04 10:55am

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jkj10 said:

Will Prince ever cut that God crap?...
Just as convinced as Prince is that ther's a God,I'm convinced ther isn't any,so don't bother me with that "God is love,love is God"crap..
You won't hear me sing :"girls and boys,please don't love God above"
He should give himself more credit for what he's done,instead of giving all the credits to God..
But I guess it's a part of American culture,giving thanks to God on your albums..Am I wrong?


I love that God crap. I love the balance that it brings to his music.Prince is a great musician with it or without it. But honestly, I don't think I would be as big a Prince fan without it. After a while I would have felt like, OK,OK, I get it. You're horny. Give it a rest.
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Reply #20 posted 10/21/04 11:38am

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Sorry, well not really.....but I love that Song. I don't necessarily see
it as religous.


I mean..The Christ??It would be great in a gospel church...But not on my evening out,please..[/quote]
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Reply #21 posted 10/21/04 11:57am

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YES

IT STOPPED HIM FROM CUSSING!

cussing is funky.
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Reply #22 posted 10/21/04 12:00pm

Fleshofmyflesh

jkj10 said:

Will Prince ever cut that God crap?...
Just as convinced as Prince is that ther's a God,I'm convinced ther isn't any,so don't bother me with that "God is love,love is God"crap..
You won't hear me sing :"girls and boys,please don't love God above"
He should give himself more credit for what he's done,instead of giving all the credits to God..
But I guess it's a part of American culture,giving thanks to God on your albums..Am I wrong?



U gonna burn in hell. campfire
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Reply #23 posted 10/21/04 12:01pm

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jkj10 said:

Will Prince ever cut that God crap?...
Just as convinced as Prince is that ther's a God,I'm convinced ther isn't any,so don't bother me with that "God is love,love is God"crap..
You won't hear me sing :"girls and boys,please don't love God above"
He should give himself more credit for what he's done,instead of giving all the credits to God..
But I guess it's a part of American culture,giving thanks to God on your albums..Am I wrong?



YES! You are WRONG!
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Reply #24 posted 10/21/04 12:10pm

mikek1

Jk10 is soooo correct. Religion is stupid and prince is over bearing these dayz. FUCK GOD.
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Reply #25 posted 10/21/04 12:10pm

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Ya'll have to understand that the 'JW' believe that that's what they are suppose to do. "WITNESS" I'ts obvious that is very important to him and is taking his religion seriously. He knows that pleasing GOD is more important than pleasing us.
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Reply #26 posted 10/21/04 12:12pm

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mikek1 said:

Jk10 is soooo correct. Religion is stupid and prince is over bearing these dayz. FUCK GOD.


Religion maybe stupid, but, knowing where you are with GOD, isn't!
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Reply #27 posted 10/21/04 12:40pm

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No Prince is not 2 religious. Thats his thing and there isn't anything wrong about how he feels. I love that in him and always will. He sings
from his heart about GOD.

Yes there is a GOD he's been there 4 me many of times.

Who do u think open ur eyes every day question question

Open ur cold heart and let the warmth in.

question
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Reply #28 posted 10/21/04 12:48pm

kdj997

jkj10 said:

NouveauDance said:

I don't agree with his relgion, but I don't mind him expressing it - I mean if he puts his life in his art, isn't that a good thing?

It's not like him singing about God is a new thing.

True....I only wished he wouldn't sing about it in concert,though.
I mean..The Christ??It would be great in a gospel church...But not on my evening out,please..


Um, theres a little thing called the first amendment, genius. Why should Prince censor himself? That's one of the things that add to his lore IMO. I'm not religious and it doesn't bother me. That's a very right wing mentality to feel that Prince should lay off of the religious themed lyrics because you're not religious. I loved his early philosophies on religion, like the "rap" at the end of "Let's Pretend We're Married" absolutely genius.
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Reply #29 posted 10/21/04 1:01pm

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I don't really have the right to say that Prince is "too religious" because, well... it's his life and his music and he can be however he wants to be or feels like he should be. Besides, he doesn't really care what I think, nor should he.

Personally though, I can say for sure that I would like Prince (and his music) more if he wasn't so overtly religious. Almost all of my favorite Prince moments are pre-JW. Since then he's been kind of annoying in the same way that lots of religious people are. If Rainbow Children had different lyrics then I would consider it a great album, because the music is good.

His religion doesn't spoil everything for me though. Illusion, Coma Pimp & Circumstance is one of the best Prince songs ever, and that's brand new with no swearing. Sure, if I had my way then I would prefer he not be so pro-Jesus, but he's still super-funky. In the end, that's what really matters from my perspective. As long as he stays funky, I remain a fan.

Even if he doesn't, I have earlier albums I can always listen to instead.
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