Prince had a good run while it lasted. I knew when the tour ended that the cd was going to follow also. The good thing about this is the exposure he had gotten from this tour. The bad thing is if it was not for the tour the cd would not have been so huge.

newpower99 said:[quote]For comparison purposes...some selections from the second half of the Top 200..

100 TEARS FOR FEARS|EVERYBODY LOVE 10073

101 * ALCHEMIST|1ST INFANTRY 9979

103 LYTTLE*KEVIN|KEVIN LYTTLE 9819

107 JONES*JIM|ON MY WAY TO CHURCH 9661

120 OUTKAST|SPEAKERBOXX-LOVE 8620

122 PRINCE|MUSICOLOGY 8407

126 SNOW PATROL|FINAL STRAW 8200
134 * CULLUM*JAMIE|TWENTYSOMETHING 7690

151 DEM FRANCHIZE B|DEM FRANCHIZE 6842
152 ROOTS|TIPPING POINT 6750

169 SCISSOR SISTERS|SCISSOR SISTER 6149
175 MARIE*TEENA|LA DONA 5653

194 B.G.|LIFE AFTER CASH MONEY 5137

200 50 CENT|GET RICH OR DIE TRYIN' 4969

Ok, it's fell a long way but musicolgy is in great company... Scissor Sisters and Snow Patrol are 2 of my favourite albums of this year!!!

It was just brilliant marketing.

Without the ticket sale CD's, Musicology would have tanked right away. It's not like it's a great album that stands on its own. I think even Prince knew that.

No offense, but some of you all are some 12:00 st8-up winny assed motherfuckers! OK, Musicology fell, and it probably would not have sold as many copies on its own as it did as part of a bundle package...can we get over this shit already? If the new single pushes the unit back into the top 10, so be it. If if doesn't, wtf? Let the shit go and quit your bitch ass whinning.
Reece

newpower99 said:[quote].... is the sound of Musicology dropping from #12 to #122 in its first post tour chart week. 23 week total with this weeks 8,000+ now at approx. 1,876,000


Ok, 1,876,000 cds. But does anybody know plus the concert copies?... and plus all around the world copies?. Lets see what happens the grammies (maybe) and the eurpean tour (probably)

Hardom said:

the 1,876,000 includes all US units moved , retail and concert. About 800,000 are retail sales the remaining were concert .

EvilWhiteMale said:

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Well the CD did sell a half a million without the concert give-away. So it was not a failure.

Right now a lot of artist who not even selling a half million would like to be in Prince's boots.

musicology was a HUGE success.. and the fact that its still selling 8,000 copies a week is insane!! think about it.. do you know anyone who bought it last week?
wtf thats nuts so long after it came out..

if anything this prooves people are actually into the new music if that many people are buying it that far away all the hype..

these are obviously people who did'nt go to the shows.

these are probably new fans.. or people who heard the cd from freinds who went to the show.

this is actually HUGE.

and you are small..

laurarichardson said:

Yeah, but this is PRINCE. I think it's a failure considering that he used to be such a megastar.

But with the way SoundScan has changed the way albums are counted, 500'000 is not really considered a successful benchmark. Yes it's true that many artist who release an album don't have a chance of ever seeing gold, much less platinum, for a musician of Prince's stature and relevence, and with hardly any airplay at all for songs from Musicology, it quite a dissapointment. And think about this scenario for a moment, had he not performed on the Grammy's or got the hype from the RRHOF show, this album would be right in the cheap dustbin with TRC and Rave un2 the Joy Fantastic. But honestly, is success on Billbaord's Top 200 really anything worthy anymore? If hacks like Ashlee Sillyton and Nelly can go No# 1 off the bat, it's quite sad.

89Flowers said:

I think you got it twisted. For an album with hardly any airplay it's not a disappointment but a success to go gold. Plus airplay is all about payola anyway. LA Reid almost went broke getting Outkast on the air this time around. You have to pay through the nose to get airplay. I don't call that successful. Plus sure Prince has a certain stature and relevance, but let's get real so does Madonna, Mariah and Whitney and the radio hardly plays them anymore AND their albums all were considered "disappointments" their last time out. Suffice it to say it ain't easy to get airplay OR to keep the attention of the mainstream audience.

EvilWhiteMale said:

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Prince is not any different then other artist who sales fell off after they got older. I don't see anyone giving the Rolling Stones or Bruce Springsteen a hard time. The radio will not play your music if your are over 40 years old. It just does not happen. I think his idea of combining the ticket and the cd is great for older acts and I bet you are going to see this continue with other groups. It does not matter if Billboard counts it. You just want to get the music to the fans and generate some excitement about your music.

Purplelicious said:

- Yes...2004 was Prince´s year
Of course, lots of us, fans, would like him to actually sell each record based on hit songs, not ticket sales.
But it was great to see his face on magazines, interviews, etc. Great to see he seems to be happy to.

EvilWhiteMale said:

agree... prince remains the baddest live performer EVER but musicology IS a weak album... wish the man would bring back some synths and rockin' guitar riffs... ill keep on buying the new stuff but the last prince cd i didn't trade-back for credit was gold experience.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Used to be? I guess you missed this year. Who is a mega star these days if not Prince? Respond if you want, but your answer will, not doubt, be the same tired crap. I know hat you'll say-Prince fell off in 199whatever, Musicology sucks,etc. Everyone else is having a good time, why do you seem hellbent to make people as miserable about Prince as you are? evilwhitemale- not just a clever nick name, it's a way of life perhaps?
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skywalker said:

you would even consider "evilwhitemale" to be a clever nickname? you're generous.

sloopydrew4u said:

well, i think "musicology" will still do a little damage in europe. "cinnamon girl" has some hit
potential imo--the song is short and catchy and accompanied by a not-at-all-bad video. and
here in holland it is getting pretty good airplay if i'm not mistaking. and isn't prince going to
tour around these parts?

that's life.

purpleone said:

- Cinnamon Girl is catchy and the video is real good, but I dont understand why Prince made such a soft production. A protest song deserved to be a more raw and agressive rock, not a 60s smooth rock...IMO of listener, of course.

lovemachine said:

Didn't they start doing that when Mariah and Janet were basically giving away singles to increase their chart life?

WildAndPeaceful said:

Synths and guitars

skywalker said:

Unless Prince is a friend or a member of your family,

This was bound to happen. Musicology was an ok album. The concert, great as it was, didn't really promote the songs on album which doesn't make sense in retrospect. He basically forced the cd down the consumers throat via a concert ticket package. I think Musicology would have stayed on the charts "legitimately" if he had played more of the songs from the album instead of a few. At first I thought it was cool how Prince got Sound Scan to count the proceeds from his concerts sales. I thought It was innovative, but now I think it's pointless. It was wonderful for him financially, popularity-wise. What it says to me is that that Musicology stayed on the charts because of a business deal, not because it was great. Can Prince make a GREAT album, without something strange tied to it??? He got his popularity resurge, I hope his next album kicks ass.....in a real sense.

steelyd said:

It's my understanding that Prince still would've given the album away even if Billboard didn't tie it in, only for the fact that it would put the music in people's hands. Not to sound whiny but it's hard to get people to buy music especially with downloading these days. Unless you're Ashlee Simpson, Hillary Duff or Usher, or a country act no one seems to be buying. So he gives the cd away, people listen, some tracks become favorites (As I suspect The Marrying Kind/If I Was the Man In Your Life most likely have) and he has an expanded set list for the future, all without the radio play he was never going to get.

The thing is people think Prince will get airplay with a great album. A smart fan would know that's not the case.

What is the week 24 info/numbers?

>>What is the week 24 info/numbers?<<


http://www.prince.org/msg/7/117525
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This drop show how 'thin' the album actually is. It is fun to listen to a couple of times but in the end it will stay in the casing.