Moonwalkbjrain said:

Lemme guess: George Michael was a shock to you, too...

ThreadBare said:

hhaha very funny...george michael is different...its not often u here people talk about him without the word gay being in the same sentence...i don't really hear people talk about rashaan..so there ya go!

tevin was in graffiti bridge. not UTCM.

I'm sorry but comparing prince to mozart or even Duke Ellington is blasphemous. Sure he's made tons of songs but quantity shouldn't matter and I think Duke, Mozart and many others have him beat in that respect while still retaining consistent quality. Prince may be the greatest artist of his generation (or one of them) but he's not the greatest artist of all time by any means. There may be a lot more prince music than jimi, james brown, or many others, but that doesn't mean he's a superior musician.

langebleu said:

Different times for differnt folks one might say. In those days it was quite common to have chosen and endeavored extensively in a trade or art by the age of 10-12. Plus Mozart was certainly pressured by his father to "practice". Playing for kings and the like certainly kept food on the table. By the time of Prince children that age by law had to spend 8 hours a day engaging in school studies. Face it Prince is probably the re-incarnation of Mozart, just richer and hopefully healthier.

and based on the true content of many of the most respected dead artists one can not say that if there output were not controlled they would have still been considered consistently quality creators. Prince has no controls these days which is why his output of quality material is sometimes saturated by his whimsical ones.

But we as Prince fans would probably pay to hear him screw Mani
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Soulchild82 said:

whatever. based on the death as a catapult to rock legend status Kurt Cobain is considered to a straight GOD (NOT!) Don't get me wrong, I think Jimmi was the master guitar player, but despite his untimely end who is to say that he had anymore creativity left in him. Prince like Jimmi was very influencial within a very short time. Don't forget that "1999" considered by many to have influenced the whole of 80's and some 90's artist/music was his 5th LP in his 5th year on the scene. Talk about setting the stage. Not even the Quincy Jones mega record "Thriller" influence music as much.

giotto said:

You had to say it better than me Giotto? nuff said

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pennylover said:

it's according how you look at art, from which field. Michelagelo was magnificent with human form and color, but the other artist you mentioned delved deep in to the human condition telling the story in a more powerful way. They could paint too

"Prince has certainly been as prolific and as genius as Mozart. Perhaps even more so if one truly goes over the entire body of his work."


LOL. Even though its apples and oranges, what you say is absolutely obsurred.

Mozart was writing an opera at age 10 or something. Which is harder and takes more talent, a rock tune or a symphony?

In fact, if you are a fan of Mozart, I'd bet you wouldn't be able to say "ah, that M piece sucked." Where as P has been at a point of making like one or two good songs an album for the last 10 years.

That was just a truly obsurred, yes OBSURRED statement.

The problem with the arguments most post in this thread is based on thier on very oppionated views of what they consider to be genius.

I'm reasonably certain for every pice of work which made the cut... there was four more balled up in the trash or burned in the fire which Mozart didn't think was worthy. And if my history is correct.. not every piece he did was considered as phenominal as some others.

A genuis can mean many things and is measured by many standards... not just one and definately not be anyone person.

I consider prince to be a genuis because according not only to many fans .. but also according to the very industry and his many peers...whom all given a choice of one word of three words to discribe Prince... genuis is always one of them.

True Mozart did things at age 10 that his contemporaries hadn't accomplished till much later in life. This only means he was a child prodigy.

Just because you would put Prince in the same big ass room with Mozart, Beethoven, Duke Ellington, Hendrex and the list could go on and on... Steavie Wonder, Bach, Ray Charles, Paul McCarthy, etc etc etc... does not make you crazy or out of their mind.

They were and are all geniuses measured by the times and areas for which their genius shone bright. They have all made permanent marks for the better to thier respective craft in all its musical granduer.

There is a line which defines a genuis from the rest of us ordinary joes. Wether you clear the line by an inch or by a mile... you're still there.. you are genius. To state that he is more a genuis or she is less is flat out silly... its like saying you are a little pregnant. fact is either you are pregant or not. Dont matter if your nine emonths or two weeks.. your still pregant.

Prince is a genius
Tevin Cambell is gay and in the R&B / urban music market which TC would cater too most, his being outgoingly gay may not go over well unlike other musical markets.

what a scandalous thread


Rashaan Patterson??

lmas said:

Wow, that was so well put, the only thing left to say is...

BRAVO!

QuakeXLE said:

Rockability said:

What is truly ABSURD is that just like your inabilty to spell out the extreme points that you are trying to make, your closed minded belief is what keeps you from seeing what I am saying. You my young friend are one of those people who needs a "hook" in every song in order to call it a great song, don't you? In fact you probably one of those Prince listeners who have only listened to released material. But hey I'm still in love with Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Debussy, Wagner, Borodin, Orff, Mussorgsky music as much as I am with Prince, Wonder, Mayfield, Beatles, Hendrix, Ellington, Davis, Coltrane, Public Enemy, Beatie Boys, and Joplin music. Well maybe Prince Music is my fav
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