dARKNitie why must u ask others 2 supply u with their joys of the RC go and get u own fukin juices, u b a parasite sukin on the blood of the inspired go and listen 2 what gets u off and stop tryin 2 pidgeon hole the man and his followers and the relationship between him and them!! If u dont get it u aint gonna get it from no 1 else, have u even listened 2 P and the ethos of his music? 4 u 2 ask what it is that u miss makes me think u r taking the piss. How dare u judge those who do get it as 'having a syndrome'? get the fuck!!

i don't own trc but i heard it and i was quite pleased. i really surprised and pleased because i like jazz and when trc came out i didn't know that my hero was also inclined to sway towards jazz (maybe most of you knew). i like it and to say it's a classic is true. and maybe i'm not much of a fan but i'm more faithful to music. if it isn't good music to me it just isn't. if i don't like it i'm not buying it and i don't care who it is. sorry prince.

SPOOKYGAS said:

word!

this thread is fuuuuuny!

This thread is another "devisive for the sake of being devisive" thread that smacks of the kind of musical elitism exhibited by many haters round here...

The fact is, to many, (myself included), TRC is musically stunning; it's funky, organic, complex, amazingly produced and beautifully played, with a great combination of experimentation and melody. Sorry if those aren't good enough reasons for you.

What does it matter? Music hits you or it doesn't; sometimes it grabs you by the heart, sometimes by the head, and sometimes by the groin. Sometimes, it just grabs you... Do we really need to justify/quantify it?

I think there might be a latent religious/theological bias at the core of this thread, otherwise, what do you care why someone likes something? Sad that you can't simply alllow people to enjoy Prince's music without acting as the "thought police". Funny how self-important the initial post here comes off. "I'm enlightened..."

"Fake Deep Sydrome", indeed.

I love The Rainbow Children, just cause I DO, and if you or anyone else don't like it, they can kiss my rainbow colored beehind!

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naw,..... just name some more albums you like so i could make fun of you some more.

SPOOKYGAS said:

i b not b tryin 2 b pigeon b holen b tha b man b so b either b u b ststin b ur opinion b or ub gettin the b fuk off . word up 2 yo motha.

Sorry, I got lost in the moment. Calm yourself stinkypants, this wasnt meant to get your spooky panties in a wad, I just wanted to elicit passionate responses about TRC. So, I shouldnt want to here others peoples opinions on Prince's music? Then why read or post anything? I think you forgot what a forum actually is. I do not wish to pigeon hole the man. Im glad he always attempts to branch out. Im just not feelin this one and thats OK. Because Im good enough, smart enough, and doggonit, people like me.

Oh yeah.....you might have "I eat too much chocolate before I post syndrome"

For me, it's simple. The fullness of the music gets me. The melodies on TRC seem to be completely packed with music, not an inch sounds empty or hollow or over produced. TRC is a masterpiece because of the different tempos, the instruments and maybe the lyrics. TRC is an extremely moody album to me and one of P's most personal. Every instrument played seems to have been played as if it were the only one on the song. It's like every session was recorded starting at 3 in the morning or something. TRC has a very omnious presence in my CD collection of Prince's.
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Well, being new to this forum its nice to see that there are healthy discussions about his music, as i find it hard to talk about it with my immediate group of friends who have branded me a "gayblade" for liking him. With regards to the rainbow children i have to say it is a great peice of work both experimentally and definately shows he is able to work on another level in terms of sound, and to listen to the album from start to finish without skipping is amazing. On a tangent to this, i wish he would integrate more blues into his work which seems to be mainly jazz orientated as i really enjoyed the blues medley on the rave dvd and the bonus track on alladin.

Rainbow Children is probably my most fave Prince cd ever.
It just flows so organically and takes you on a trip (it's really quite an interesting album to put on when you're tripping), the trip ends in sheer positivity and makes you wanna crave for more of this music...
The instrumentation is terrific, the singing is terrific and yes even the Voice adds a certain flavour to it... Musically this is Prince's best album in a long long time.....

I just love it and yes I do spin it quite often (more than others...)

starbuck said:

You'd have to be high to even tollerate that shit album.

Byron said:

Nah. He just has the habit of showing up in pro-TRC threads to not only trash the album, but those who dig it.

jpav said:

jpav said:

Maybe you are enlightened. I appreciate the passion you exude for this album. That is why I started this thread. If you could, post a picture of your "rainbow colored ass". Just for the gallery and my amusement. I dont have any latent religious/theological bias. Im also not the thought police. I gave my opinion on my view of TRC and its impact on Prince fans, and you are giving yours.

Well done

Another question while staying on this topic.
Is there any other Prince album that reaches either end of the fan spectrum, ie Love/Hate, than The Rainbow Children?

Another day, another crap inflammatory thread.

I LOVE the Rainbow Children.

I still spin it A LOT.

Why create threads like this unless you want to piss people off who have different taste than you?

mrdespues said:

Dont respond if you dont want to. If nobody cares to respond to my "crap inflammatory thread" then it will simply go away, and then I would rethink the posting of such threads. I got several responses that I hoped for. Im glad you love it and spin it. Give er hell mrdespues.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Evil, i see you dissing this album quite alot, what Prince albums do u like?

DarkKnight1 said:

Why can't you just accept that everybody has a different taste ??!!

At the end of the day everyone has different tastes in artists, albums, blah, blah, blah but I'll try to explain why I like the Rainbow Children. In my opinion its the best thing hes done since The Truth. I only started getting into Prince around 1989 after the Batman film. I bought some of his back catalogue and fell in love with his music, the energy, the vibe. Then I bought Graffiti Bridge which I didn;t like much with the exception of Joy in Repition, We Can Funk. After that everything started to go so commercial and plasticy (sp.) - D&P, Symbol (even though I do have a soft spot for this album), NPS, etc (just my two cents so don't shoot me). I really started to lose interest around NPS, Crystal Ball. I didn't buy any Prince records for a while until the Rainbow Children as released and this is the CD that encouraged me back to the fold. I think its quite an experimental record, not for music in general but for Prince. I liked the jazz fusion thing and the whole album felt really organic - I think the production is fantastic. Someone else made a comment here a while ago which I totally agree with - TRC sounds like he had some fire in his belly when he made it, like it had a purpose. He was no longer coasting or trying to be too commercial. Even the God-like voice doesn't annoy me!!! I love this album and believe me it gets just as much play as Dirty Mind, 1999, Parade, etc.

Sorry for the incoherent explanation but I tend to think sideways!!!

DarkKnight1 said:

like you TRC is the ONLY album in Prince's whole catalog that i just don't like..i have listened to it so many times to try and get the feel and i can't..which has always disturbed me because i have been a Prince fan since i was 15 and have liked everything...who knows maybe one day i will feel it i dont know...to me it seems like many people here like the album because it is an underdog album..i think some fans here thinlkthey have found some hidden gem because this is Prince's least successful album..i dont know.i'm sure if TRC would have sold as many copies as Musicology many people would be called it "shit" too

psykosoul said:

Oh, I so absolutely agree with you on that one. It hits the gist of what I was thinking perfectly.

I remember installing myself at the computer, commencing to download the TRC album when
it was first made available on the site.

I didn't quite know what to expect since I had heard "The Work" but nothing else from the cd
yet and I must say "The Work" is one of those songs that I kinda like but am not thrilled with.

So, I don't know, I guess I had installed myself to hearing another "Rave" "My Medallion" &
"Daisy Chain" type of album. You know, lots of drummachines, smooth and easy with the kind
of chorus you can sing along to the first time you hear it.

Because that is what Prince was dangerously close to becoming with "Rave Un2 The Joy" and
certainly "New Power Soul". It was too easy. A song started and ended on the same vibe with
little or no surprises or jawdropping moments.

When downloading the album off NPGMC proved to be a hell I got frustrated. I had a very
slow modem and it took me more than 5 hours to download it, only to have it abort in the
last stages. It took me another 3 hours to finally download it off of someone's mirrorlink
provided to me by email.

I was everything at that moment, except happy and pleased to go and listen to a new Prince
album. In fact, I was pissed off completely. I was angry because of the download time and
the failed attempt and thought to myself "oh here we go, another plastic album, what the
hell is all the hassle about anyway?"

And then I pressed "play". Seriously, from the first minute on my face went:



I couldn't believe my ears. The songs sounded so organic, so alive and they moved in all
kinds of directions. The title song alone just killed me and then it was followed by this piece
of heavenly coda. I was prepared to wet myself by that time.

Honestly, I loved this album from the very first minute, before I even considered what any
other people might think of it. And I still do.

I love the way it's put together. Even the deep voice doesn't bother me at all. In places it
is even very amusing (before the guitar solo on "The Everlasting Now").

It's a good, solid effort. Mixing many of his styles but also incorporating the styles of his
own idols more openly than on his previous records. And, as always with a good Prince cd,
it rambles and seems incoherent at places lol.

The guitar solo's, John's drumming, the ethereal intro to "Digital Garden", the introduction
to "Family Name", the spitting and screaming and blazing guitar on that cut, the slight and
breezy feel to "She Loves Me 4 Me", the naughty lyrics to "Mellow" (oh how larry must have
bit his lip) -it all just WORKS for me.

Not since "The Truth" had I been so utterly, childishly happy with a new Prince album. My
bad mood had lifted in minutes and I kept going "wooh this is just amazing, this is sooo
fucking good, this is aaaaargh"



Since you say you like almost all his music, I suspect that in the end, you will grow to
like this album since there simply is so much to like here.

Perhaps the over all impact of the album is just a bit much for you and you feel a bit
sick listening to all of it at once lol.

Why don't you try cracking it by programming the disc? Just listen to the 3 or 4 songs
that you really like and then once you're completely used to those, just add one or 2
more songs etc etc.

That's how I', usually able to get into albums that scare me off at first or that I simply
don't see the beauty of.

ok.here we go.....

TRC ALBUM:.TRASHED IT.didn't like it.

ONA.LIVE BOX SET:....it rocked.some songs from TRC sound better live.

i guess it depends on if the track is "studio" vs. "live"

at least for me.

starbuck said:

Every one in the 80's, then Half of the ones he did in the 90's.

psykosoul said:

DARK KNIGHT1 (let's hope there isn't a 2). Just compare the above argument to your own opinion and learn the difference between the two. The latter is well informed and interesting (and incidentally I agree with it) and the latter is rude, ignorant and dull.

DarkKnight1 said:

It's obvious to me that you think you're cute because you're calling some people out on something...whatever How dare you?

I certainly didn't hate TRC, but i wasn't blown away by it either. I appreciated that Prince was getting back to experimentation and live instruments. It was certainly different from what he had been doing for many years previous. It's not an album I can just put on and listen to all the time, but I think the great moments were truly great. One personal favorite of mine that no one else has mentioned is "The Sensual Everafter." I think the best thing Larry Graham ever did for Prince was the bassline to that song. But sometimes you need to hear a song in context. I had usually dismissed that song as a dull lite-jazz instrumental. Then one day I was driving through the mountains on a warm day with the windows down and started to feel the mellow vibe of that song. Then Prince's guitar hit around 2:15 and I fell in love. I rewound to that part 7 or 8 times. It was perfect in that moment, and I've loved it ever since. Sometimes your ears have to lose their expectations and be placed into a different context. I'm not saying a warm day will instantly make all of his albums better (I still just can't get into 'The Vault' or 'The Truth,' other than one or two songs each). But sometimes you hear things from a new perspective and learn to love them.

vivid said:

Hey Vivid(video?) Be sure to answer your phone when it rings. Saturday Night Live will be calling once they see your rapist wit (I hope there isnt a 2).
Anyways, I dont think that both can be the latter. Regardless, thanks for your participation in this rude, ignorant and dull topic.

SquarePeg said:

I dont think Im cute. I am attempting to call people out. I do have strong opinions on this album. Get offended if you wish. Sometimes thats the only way to elicit someones true convictions. Im getting some good feedback on my post so thats good enough for me. I have read some things that have also strengthened my opinions on this subject. RIGHT OR WRONG they are my opinions. Im not gonna lose any sleep over anyones opinions on me or this subject.

DarkKnight1 said:

la-di-da

well, here's my input for the record:

TRC IS A MASTERPIECE...I think it's one of the greatest albums Prince ever recorded, and I don't give a fuck who knows it