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Thread started 08/18/04 2:39pm

pstarr

Should Prince have a producer other than Himself on the next album?

Should Prince let someone else produce one of his albums. What do you guys think?
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Reply #1 posted 08/18/04 2:49pm

Moonwalkbjrain

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yea jamie starr camille or christopher tracy
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Reply #2 posted 08/18/04 2:54pm

soulyacolia

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That's an interesting question. I would say no. He seems to have done ok so far. I think an outside producer would suggest things that Prince would just reject. He had an executive producer on For You and that relationship was from what I've read strained to say the least. Prince knows what he wants from his recording sessions he has enough experience to achieve what he wants alone.

He could however have more musicians to bounce off in the studio. Wendy and Lisa for example kicked him up the butt and gave him influences that he didn't previously have. That might improve his music. nod
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Reply #3 posted 08/18/04 3:11pm

andyman91

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I think the right producer could take Prince out of his own world and into our world, where his genius would be more apparent, sorta like what was done with the PR movie.

But I don't think he'd ever go for it.
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Reply #4 posted 08/18/04 3:20pm

NouveauDance

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Nahhh, he'd get some blinkered R&B/Urban/Hip-Hop producer in if he ever did it.

On second thoughts, it might be so bad, that it was good, like NPS.

As long as he didn't develop a taste for it.
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Reply #5 posted 08/18/04 3:25pm

Marrk

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It's not something he'll ever do or would even consider.
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Reply #6 posted 08/18/04 3:54pm

kev1n

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when diamonds & pearls came out a lot of people accused him of selling out his own music for popular trends...hiring an outside producer would do just that, we'd end up with Diamonds & pearls II or a faint attempt at Purple rain II

After rave, when the idea was again suggested, i think Prince took everyone by surprise with rainbow children & musicology, wich were amazing albums...the man as at his best by himself.
It was not in vain...it was in Minneapolis!
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Reply #7 posted 08/18/04 4:25pm

sosgemini

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id love to hear what daniel lanois or tchad blake would bring to the table...
Space for sale...
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Reply #8 posted 08/18/04 4:28pm

psykosoul

if he did, I'd wanna hear:

?uestlove & James Poyser
Raphael Saadiq
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Reply #9 posted 08/18/04 8:23pm

homeandmantel

Prince has to hang the keys to recording studio away, and not ever go back and waste anymore nice clean tape.
Just go and tour, and play somewhere.
The more he records the further he takes us from the memories of what he once was.
Instead of a producer, he needs people like he had in the old days to keep him from making a fool of himself, Or to tell him, UMMM thats nice, we'll put this song away in this pretty trash bin for later,(rainbow children.....heck every thing that got out since Steve Fragnoli or whatever his name was kept him in check) but keep up the good work.
And keep him from answering the door, he's a simple minded guy, someone might come by with some pamphelets on sunday and make a bible thumper out of him.
He needs to come here to Palm Springs california, and get some sun, play in the sunshine and just relax, play some golf. Have him give the keys to the vault to Warner Brothers and tell them to go nuts with the stuff, and have his check direct deposited to bank.

Gett some rest prince , you deserve it.
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Reply #10 posted 08/18/04 9:25pm

pstarr

psykosoul said:

if he did, I'd wanna hear:

?uestlove & James Poyser
Raphael Saadiq



I would love to hear what Rick rubin could do with him. I like your picks very much as well.
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Reply #11 posted 08/18/04 10:29pm

vainandy

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Never
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #12 posted 08/18/04 10:33pm

Emancipation88

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Why?
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Reply #13 posted 08/18/04 10:38pm

MrSquiggle

Didn't he already do this on Rave?
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Reply #14 posted 08/18/04 10:43pm

sloopydrew4u

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Translated: Should Prince sellout on his next album?

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
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Reply #15 posted 08/18/04 10:54pm

vainandy

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sloopydrew4u said:

Translated: Should Prince sellout on his next album?

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince


You hit the nail right on the head. That's exactly what Prince would be doing if he let someone else produce him.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #16 posted 08/18/04 10:58pm

sloopydrew4u

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vainandy said:



You hit the nail right on the head. That's exactly what Prince would be doing if he let someone else produce him.


I'd be so pissed Andy, we'd have to dance to someone other than Prince at our wedding reception. I'm serious, d00d, it would get under my skin!

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
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Reply #17 posted 08/18/04 11:05pm

vainandy

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sloopydrew4u said

I'd be so pissed Andy, we'd have to dance to someone other than Prince at our wedding reception. I'm serious, d00d, it would get under my skin!


I know it! Wouldn't that be horrible?
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #18 posted 08/18/04 11:07pm

sloopydrew4u

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vainandy said:

sloopydrew4u said

I'd be so pissed Andy, we'd have to dance to someone other than Prince at our wedding reception. I'm serious, d00d, it would get under my skin!


I know it! Wouldn't that be horrible?


I can only imagine! We'd find ourselves dancing to Bon Jovi. eek

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
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Reply #19 posted 08/18/04 11:26pm

vainandy

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sloopydrew4u said:

vainandy said:



I know it! Wouldn't that be horrible?


I can only imagine! We'd find ourselves dancing to Bon Jovi. eek


Just as long as it's not Whitney Houston. I'd file for divorce immediately!
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #20 posted 08/18/04 11:39pm

sloopydrew4u

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vainandy said:



I can only imagine! We'd find ourselves dancing to Bon Jovi. eek


Just as long as it's not Whitney Houston. I'd file for divorce immediately!


Ouch! Shot through the heart ... and you're to blame! lol

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
[This message was edited Wed Aug 18 23:39:55 2004 by sloopydrew4u]
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Reply #21 posted 08/18/04 11:59pm

vainandy

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sloopydrew4u said:

Ouch! Shot through the heart ... and you're to blame! lol


You give love....a bad name! lol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #22 posted 08/19/04 1:04am

Supernova

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Aiight you guys, this has become cornball...
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #23 posted 08/19/04 1:07am

sloopydrew4u

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Supernova said:

Aiight you guys, this has become cornball...


*gasp* but we're in LOVE!

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
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Reply #24 posted 08/19/04 1:18am

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I have responded to this and suggested this topic for years way back in 200o on the previous version of this site.

First one must ask what will the producer contribute. Will he or she "tone down" our little Prince? Will he/she have Prince sounding like the latest fave. that's if you approach this idea as someone who will change is style for the masses. I believe that Prince as well all know is a genius pure talent beyond - but even talent can smother itself. Having said that, I think that he does need a producer to take his genius to another level. And as I have stated in the past, (and I know someone will shoot me down for this again), I would like to see Prince hook up with Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre is producer extraordinaire - if he and Prince hooked up that could create a total new sound. Before you reply or attack me or think I want Prince sounding like a west coast rapper - think of Dr. Dre's beats and style in the studio. If not him, the producer of
Time Will Reveal by Above the Law - KMG The Illustrator, Producer.

Again think about Prince's, creativity and a producer like Dr. Dre.

Whendovescry2000 sees it, tells it and creates with it.
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Reply #25 posted 08/19/04 1:22am

BlaqueKnight

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vainandy said:



You hit the nail right on the head. That's exactly what Prince would be doing if he let someone else produce him.



What if Stevie Wonder produced him? Would he be selling out then? I think not.
Prince doesn't need another producer, Prince needs to spend some time amongst real people. It seems that everyone around him is on his payroll. His music is a reflection of his distance from the public. Perhaps he's no longer inspired? Maybe he SHOULD hang it up for a few years and just tour. Spread out his releases and get an objective ear around him...or he can continue on his "musical journey" or whatever he thinks he's on and you guys can keep buying downloads...whatever. Either way, he's probably NOT going for having a producer.
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Reply #26 posted 08/19/04 1:34am

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whendovescry2000 said:

I have responded to this and suggested this topic for years way back in 200o on the previous version of this site.

First one must ask what will the producer contribute. Will he or she "tone down" our little Prince? Will he/she have Prince sounding like the latest fave. that's if you approach this idea as someone who will change is style for the masses. I believe that Prince as well all know is a genius pure talent beyond - but even talent can smother itself. Having said that, I think that he does need a producer to take his genius to another level. And as I have stated in the past, (and I know someone will shoot me down for this again), I would like to see Prince hook up with Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre is producer extraordinaire - if he and Prince hooked up that could create a total new sound. Before you reply or attack me or think I want Prince sounding like a west coast rapper - think of Dr. Dre's beats and style in the studio. If not him, the producer of
Time Will Reveal by Above the Law - KMG The Illustrator, Producer.

Again think about Prince's, creativity and a producer like Dr. Dre.

Whendovescry2000 sees it, tells it and creates with it.



Actually, I could see that, too. Prince's beats are lame as hell these days. His fast jams aren't crackin' enough for the younger generation. They have been weened on a whole different style. A producer like Dre would fill in the blanks, and probably tone down some of those musical tangents Prince goes on. This would be if Prince wanted to drop hits. I don't think that's where Prince is trying to go. Dre's tracks are sophisticated enough to handle Prince's instrumentals. It could be interesting. I wouldn't hold my breath for it, though.
[This message was edited Thu Aug 19 1:35:55 2004 by BlaqueKnight]
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Reply #27 posted 08/19/04 2:28am

sloopydrew4u

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whendovescry2000 said:

First one must ask what will the producer contribute. Will he or she "tone down" our little Prince?


Prince has done that to himself. He don't need no outside help. I feel the last TRUE album he released was The Rainbow Children.

Will he/she have Prince sounding like the latest fave.


He tried like hell with Emancipation to sound like the current R&B onslaught of crap and did a pretty good job of it (the corporate radio just chose to ignore the selling of his artistic soul). That's why it's hard to get a single disc worth of decent tracks out of a 3 disc release.

I would like to see Prince hook up with Dr. Dre.


I'm a big fan of Dre's production work (I even admit to being an Eminem fan) but how do you put Prince's trademark sound together with Dre's trademark rap and hard-ass attitude? It's like putting Billy Joel and Elton John together. It would never happen. Oh, wait....

Part of me -- the part that has loved Prince's raps such as Pussy Control, agrees with your nutty idea. Prince is mellowing out FAR TOO MUCH in his old age. Maybe he needs a little attitude. Dre would prolly be better than Graham's brainwashing bullshit!

Luv & Peace,
Alex
Clubbin' in Mpls/A Night w. Prince
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Reply #28 posted 08/19/04 7:15am

jaypotton

NAH - Prince should just continue to write, play and produce everything himself because that is what sets him apart.

However, I would like to see another album like 1-800-NEW-FUNK that could have a few collaborations, perhaps one with Lenny, one with Jam & Lewis etc
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #29 posted 08/19/04 7:23am

bwnladybug

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A producer for Prince would be a waste of time. Maybe a collaborator, but a producer nah.
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