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Reply #180 posted 03/21/02 2:14pm

SkletonKee

why am i invisioning bart simpson's evil twin brother that was cut off from bart as a kid and locked up in the attic.... they did this cause the doctor said he was the evil twin..but then they found out bart actually was..


i wonder if prince is actually the talentless twin...hmmm...


bwwwuuhhaaaaa
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Reply #181 posted 03/21/02 2:59pm

jaikman

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PFunkjazz said:

jaikman said:

Read the goddamn heading on the motherfuckin' thread. DUH! It's gonna invite references to other people DUH! wotadafuckizdaproblem?





Actually.....This thread was intended as "Who can do all

the things that Prince does so well?",- "Who can do

everything

he does.....Not who's better on the Guitar, or Who's a

better songwriter..or pianist..etc....But Who else do you

know of

that can do Eveything that Prince does.....My answer

is No-one.....But as I can see from the lists so

far, It takes just that, A LIST of people to top

just One Prince.






bgladthaturfree

Shut up jaik. You're one of those people I was talking about! razz[/quote]






That's the best you can come up with?? Shutup?.....how

about a list of people who can start a better thread.....

maybe that will make you happy.....chill out dude/chick,

whatever!....go put on a Tina Marie record and a happy face

razz and just....





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Reply #182 posted 03/21/02 3:14pm

PFunkjazz

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jaikman said:

go put on a Tina Marie record and a happy face

razz and just....





bgladthaturfree
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It's TEENA dude ...T E E N A.

U know I was only shittin' you. You are, after all, my favortie turd.
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Reply #183 posted 03/21/02 3:20pm

PurplePaisley

RiccotheArtist: I may have let you down when you were singing "Head" in the middle of Paisley Park last June (and for that I am TRUELY sorry - I honestly forgot the lyrics !), but I definately got your back on this one and agree with everything you said. There's a lot of great artists out there but let's face it, if Prince wasn't who he is, would we all be here chatting right now ???? Ain't nothin but a muffin, gotta lotta butter to go.
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Reply #184 posted 03/21/02 3:36pm

RiccotheArtist

PurplePaisley said:

RiccotheArtist: I may have let you down when you were singing "Head" in the middle of Paisley Park last June (and for that I am TRUELY sorry - I honestly forgot the lyrics !), but I definately got your back on this one and agree with everything you said. There's a lot of great artists out there but let's face it, if Prince wasn't who he is, would we all be here chatting right now ???? Ain't nothin but a muffin, gotta lotta butter to go.

It's all good, next time we are gonna sing Jack U off u down.....LOL
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Reply #185 posted 03/21/02 3:55pm

drufus

Look, as far as THE WHOLE PACKAGE goes (singing, playing, writing, dancing, recording, and live performance) no one even comes close. He can do it all, and in an amazing variety of styles. But there are some folks out there who can sing and dance, or play and write as it were. Certainly Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, and Al Green all had/have amazing talents that could move us in ways others could not. I think we should leave the jazz greats out of this conversation--comparing Miles to Prince is interesting in terms of "how are they similar," but really, it's a different ballgame. They're having different conversations in different arenas. But I'm going to throw out the name of a performer who I think is one of the best songwriters, musicians, and certainly performers of all time. He has a similar relationship to his fans that Prince has, he's had critical success, he's had hits, he's tried a few different styles, and his live shows are (still) AMAZING. I keep going back on who's one and who's two, but right next to Prince I put Bruce Springsteen. With as much soul as that brother has I've always found it odd that he hasn't attracted a more diverse audience--the curse of an icon, I guess. Anyway, Zappa was great, Joni is brilliant, Hendrix was on another level, and Sly visited him frequently, but few, if any, can take their audience on a journey--unite them, make 'em feel good, make 'em dance, make them think, and most importantly, make them happy to be alive RIGHT NOW--more than Prince and Springsteen. Whaddya think?
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Reply #186 posted 03/21/02 4:24pm

SkletonKee

Let me drop attention to the only human to ever win an Oscar,Emmy, Tony and Grammy...The beautiful and talented Rita Moreno...

hehehehehheehhe.....

hahahahahahaha
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Reply #187 posted 03/21/02 4:35pm

PFunkjazz

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LOL you had me interested. Nice set-up, but you must be crazy. BROOOCE does maybe 3 styles rock, folk and rockabilly. He can't dance. His voice is like a sack of shit in bog. He's not much to root for as a guitar player. I'll grant he can write a few good songs. His appeal is really limited to the demographic of white male, over 30 and drives a Camaro/Firebird. If you wanna list the top acts of the 80s, yeah he's right up there, but whatever he had blew way the fuck over my head.

drufus said:

Look, as far as THE WHOLE PACKAGE goes (singing, playing, writing, dancing, recording, and live performance) no one even comes close. He can do it all, and in an amazing variety of styles. But there are some folks out there who can sing and dance, or play and write as it were. Certainly Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, James Brown, and Al Green all had/have amazing talents that could move us in ways others could not. I think we should leave the jazz greats out of this conversation--comparing Miles to Prince is interesting in terms of "how are they similar," but really, it's a different ballgame. They're having different conversations in different arenas. But I'm going to throw out the name of a performer who I think is one of the best songwriters, musicians, and certainly performers of all time. He has a similar relationship to his fans that Prince has, he's had critical success, he's had hits, he's tried a few different styles, and his live shows are (still) AMAZING. I keep going back on who's one and who's two, but right next to Prince I put Bruce Springsteen. With as much soul as that brother has I've always found it odd that he hasn't attracted a more diverse audience--the curse of an icon, I guess. Anyway, Zappa was great, Joni is brilliant, Hendrix was on another level, and Sly visited him frequently, but few, if any, can take their audience on a journey--unite them, make 'em feel good, make 'em dance, make them think, and most importantly, make them happy to be alive RIGHT NOW--more than Prince and Springsteen. Whaddya think?
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Reply #188 posted 03/21/02 5:00pm

Datruth

Aint narrie a person alive!!
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Reply #189 posted 03/21/02 5:11pm

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NPGJughead said:

sambluedolphin said:

WHAT BOUT BILLY CORGAN!!!!!???




BILLY CORGAN, MY ASS!!! So freakin' overrated!!! Most of his songs you can throw into the trash.....A riff here, a riff there.....his melodies are mediocre, both instrumentally and in vocals.....i'd pick kurt cobain before i ever picked old billy.....and he's nowhere near on the list either.....nuff said

A peaceful wild, ya'll!
T-O-DoubleD


Thanks 4 answerin, Overrated?! In the 90s, the Pumpkins were sellin millions! the best sellin rock band in dat period, they sold 4Mill. of there least commercial album, Machina, in the Us alone! Billy can play all the instruments like Prince, and writes all of the songs. So their are more comparrisions than any other artist. Cobain didn't do enough albums to make it on the list, Billy did! Also u just have to listen to Tonight, Tonight to hear real melody! one of the top 20 all time voted MTV UK videos! I don't think u'v listened enought to Billy to make these accusations. Billys, voice is exceptional, most emotive voice i eav heard, just listen 2 Disarm. The fact here is dat Billy sold more in the sales, than Cobain at the same period. So he deserves to be on the list both commercially and none-commercially

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Reply #190 posted 03/21/02 5:24pm

starfishandcof
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One word: Madonna!
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Reply #191 posted 03/21/02 5:31pm

starfishandcof
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I WAS KIDDING
PRINCE HAS BEEN BY FAR THE MOST TALENTED ARTIST TO DATE!
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Reply #192 posted 03/21/02 7:27pm

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I just wanted to add my 2 cents re: the Michael Jackson comment . . . (I know, I know, but I ain't tryin to start another MJ vs. Prince thread)
Back in the late 60's/early 70's there was much respect and admiration for the Jacksons because they were talented and successful. . . when Prince (as a teen) was first getting his band together he wanted the same success as the Jacksons, hence . . . your influence
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Reply #193 posted 03/21/02 8:57pm

herbthe4

Nobody that I know of...Why else would I visit this page every day? And folks, please NEVER confuse reocrd sales with talent, unless we want 2 talk anout David Hasselhoff, Britney and The Backstreet Boys as people with great talent.

"Who? Prince? That skinny motherfucker with the high voice? Please."

Herbthe4
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Reply #194 posted 03/21/02 11:05pm

purpleleaf7

AIN'T NOBODY GOT HIS TALENT. NOT OF THAT KIND. NOBODY.
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Reply #195 posted 03/22/02 1:06am

Amaya

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WHAT BOUT BILLY CORGAN




yep have to agree with you about billy..
i also would ad bjork to this list!
Amaya
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Reply #196 posted 03/22/02 4:31am

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"With the Jackson5 they've had a string of top selling albums and #1 hit singles, plus worldwide tours. Is that not a life dedicated to music? Plus an animated Sat morning TV cartoon show that featured Black characters as the stars and their own music! You may not like his new music, but even to this day MJ is still a creative force.

You want to argue MJ vs Prince (who by the way has not had a hit in years) go on. That's a "fool's argument", that I won't bother with. "

- Are you the same Pfunkjazz from the old P.org?? I wouldnt expect that you would talk about hits, since you usually like artists that arent on the Top 10 (Stevie Ray Vaughan, Living Colour, etc). Of course, all artists must make a living from their art, nobody works for free. But the difference is that some people seem to USE the music to make money, while others make it for the simple pleasure of making art. And THEN they receive the money. Frank Zappa never hired ´hot´producers to be #1 at the bank. And he earned enough money to live well.
Honestly...do you put Thelonious Monk and TLC on the same level of quality, creativity, artistry?
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Reply #197 posted 03/22/02 4:42am

DavidEye

This is really a silly argument.Why does one artist have to be "more talented" than another? Why does music always have to be some endless competition anyway? I listen to everyone from Barry Manilow to George Clinton.I don't group my favorite artists into different categories,comparing them to each other,obsessing over who plays more instruments.That is so childish!
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Reply #198 posted 03/22/02 4:45am

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PFunkjazz said:

Knowing that you have not seen Prince Live, how do you know you've heard him doing these things? While it's true you may have identified his style, looks like you're relying on credits that could be scrambled, erroneous or just PR propaganda.

RE BOOTSY: Indeed the shame is on you. You'd actually get a better understanding of Prince if you got deep into Bootsy.

- Who said I never saw Prince live?? I have at least 5 or 6 videos, and they sound pretty authentic to me (I dont believe somebody was soloiong backstage). Plus, I have Undertaker, SOTT, Lovesexy, Sacrifice of Victor, Jam of the Year Tour, Freedom Day concert, etc. I believe some people were mis-credited on his albums, that´s why I dont argue about some things (I still dont know if it´s Prince or Levi on ´Get some solo´ or ´She spoke 2 me´) but I recognize his style on most of his songs (unless he hired the same ghost guitar player for all his Cds).
About Bootsy, I know about his influence on Prince´s music, and I know about Parliament/Funkadelic´s influence too. I listened to at least 10 songs of Bootsy that made me acknowledge that..smile. When I said I wasnt familiar with Bootsy´s career I was referring to credits of the albums, if he plays guitar, drums, etc. But I will search for more of his stuff.
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Reply #199 posted 03/22/02 5:19am

DavidEye

Uh,Gustavo....I think he means you never saw Prince LIVE IN CONCERT.Watching concert videos do not count...lol...he means you were never actaully at a Prince concert,in person.smile
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Reply #200 posted 03/22/02 6:25am

PurplePaisley

RiccotheArtist - Yep, I'm down with singing "Jack U Off" at Paisley this year (listening to it right now). To be on the safe side, I'll bring the lyrics ! LOL See you there. wink
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Reply #201 posted 03/22/02 7:31am

SkletonKee

DavidEye said:

That is so childish!


Ohh lighten up my bay area neighbor...if we dont ask these types of questions we are stuck with people *only* arguing why prince is better then maddy or michael...

or why they were first in a post....

or why they want to boink this person or that person....

one person's chidlishness is another's deep conversation..

Viva La Difference!!!!!

smile


.....

yeaaahh!!! i get an "edit" thingie under me.
[This message was edited Fri Mar 22 7:33:39 PST 2002 by SkletonKee]
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Reply #202 posted 03/22/02 7:31am

GustavoRibas

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DavidEye said:

Uh,Gustavo....I think he means you never saw Prince LIVE IN CONCERT.Watching concert videos do not count...lol...he means you were never actaully at a Prince concert,in person.smile

-= yeah, David, but he meant it because he insinuated I never saw Prince playing piano solos or slap bass, and some of the best Prince moments as an instrumentalist could have been performed by somebody else....that´s why I said i saw him live...smile
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Reply #203 posted 03/22/02 8:17am

PFunkjazz

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- Are you the same Pfunkjazz from the old P.org?? I wouldnt expect that you would talk about hits, since you usually like artists that arent on the Top 10 (Stevie Ray Vaughan, Living Colour, etc). Of course, all artists must make a living from their art, nobody works for free. But the difference is that some people seem to USE the music to make money, while others make it for the simple pleasure of making art. And THEN they receive the money. Frank Zappa never hired ´hot´producers to be #1 at the bank. And he earned enough money to live well.
Honestly...do you put Thelonious Monk and TLC on the same level of quality, creativity, artistry?


Everything has it's time and place, Gustavo. If I'm throwing a house party, NAW I ain't playin no MONK. People would think I've lost my FUNKY mind. Yeah I could find a nice bangin' cut from TLC for the part people.

BTW I heard "Waterfalls" for the 4th or 5th time. It does have heavy Prince inflection on its' funk.
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Reply #204 posted 03/22/02 8:21am

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PFunkjazz said:

GustavoRibas said:



- Are you the same Pfunkjazz from the old P.org?? I wouldnt expect that you would talk about hits, since you usually like artists that arent on the Top 10 (Stevie Ray Vaughan, Living Colour, etc). Of course, all artists must make a living from their art, nobody works for free. But the difference is that some people seem to USE the music to make money, while others make it for the simple pleasure of making art. And THEN they receive the money. Frank Zappa never hired ´hot´producers to be #1 at the bank. And he earned enough money to live well.
Honestly...do you put Thelonious Monk and TLC on the same level of quality, creativity, artistry?


Everything has it's time and place, Gustavo. If I'm throwing a house party, NAW I ain't playin no MONK. People would think I've lost my FUNKY mind. Yeah I could find a nice bangin' cut from TLC for the party people. The big difference is I'd pay $$$ to hear some one like MOnk play live, but TLC I'm fine with the records (if at all). It's political, TLC don't need my support cuz the marketing of pop will get them their royalties.

BTW I heard "Waterfalls" for the 4th or 5th time. It does have heavy Prince inflection on its' funk.
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Reply #205 posted 03/22/02 12:15pm

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Reply #206 posted 03/22/02 8:44pm

PFunkjazz

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GustavoRibas said:

PFunkjazz said:

Knowing that you have not seen Prince Live, how do you know you've heard him doing these things? While it's true you may have identified his style, looks like you're relying on credits that could be scrambled, erroneous or just PR propaganda.

RE BOOTSY: Indeed the shame is on you. You'd actually get a better understanding of Prince if you got deep into Bootsy.

- Who said I never saw Prince live?? I have at least 5 or 6 videos, and they sound pretty authentic to me (I dont believe somebody was soloiong backstage). Plus, I have Undertaker, SOTT, Lovesexy, Sacrifice of Victor, Jam of the Year Tour, Freedom Day concert, etc. I believe some people were mis-credited on his albums, that´s why I dont argue about some things (I still dont know if it´s Prince or Levi on ´Get some solo´ or ´She spoke 2 me´) but I recognize his style on most of his songs (unless he hired the same ghost guitar player for all his Cds).
About Bootsy, I know about his influence on Prince´s music, and I know about Parliament/Funkadelic´s influence too. I listened to at least 10 songs of Bootsy that made me acknowledge that..smile. When I said I wasnt familiar with Bootsy´s career I was referring to credits of the albums, if he plays guitar, drums, etc. But I will search for more of his stuff.



That's cool Gustavo, CONCERT video's count. Anything that helps you identify exactly who is playing at the time you hear him . And yes that is what I meant about Bootsy. If you're into multi-instrumetalists, you must check out Bootsy a lot more.
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Reply #207 posted 03/22/02 8:58pm

Paisley

Eye'm sorry but no one and eye mean no one is more talented than Prince, he's the best!
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Reply #208 posted 03/22/02 10:42pm

digitalgarden

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Great Question....

A few names come to mind

1. David Bowie (Songwriting and Playing)
2. Madonna (Did U know she plays drums, guitar & keys)
3. Miles Davis (Legend)
4. Tori Amos (4 her songwriting and piano playing)

The above are just as talented, but showcase their talents in different ways than Prince has. Out of the new crop of Artist's of the 90's and beyond, no one comes to mind, the only one I'd keep an eye on is Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins, because he writes and produces(some of his music is very good, and has a good mind for new sounds and ideas).
I wish U love & peace.

Digital Garden
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Reply #209 posted 04/01/02 6:57pm

jaikman

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So, does anyone have an answer to my question?

Who IS more Talented than Prince?


Can any name given up above do at least all the same things

as Prince?

Songwrite

Compose music

produce everything he writes(intrumentally, play all his

own music)

sing everything he writes

act (sorta)

Direct

arrange his own stage, from the sound board to the lighting

choreograph

dance



Yeah, no shit there are some on those lists that can do one or two

those skills up to or better than Prince's standards


But,.....Whao Can Do It All??





nobody








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