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Thread started 08/08/04 5:02am

Byron

Prince Fakes His Guitar Playing!!!!

Or so says some guy on some website I stumbled upon during my late night/early morning excursion online...

The topic was underrated and overrated guitarist...apparently someone must have listed Prince as underrated and this other guy responded:

"prince makes me laugh.i have seen him live twice.once in london and once in las vegas.both times he had the guitarist in the backline (who got no spotlight whatsoever)play the guitar parts and solo's while prince air guitared it.he's a shame,faking people out and you all bought it.so many excuses,he doesn't need to show off his solo talent cause his songwriting is so talented(bullcrap.does he go to berkley,g.i.t.,or any other music teaching school..no.does he put out video and cd/cassete teaching aids..no.has he ever done an unplugged session...no.is he on video backstage or in the studio just jamming on a guitar by himself ..no.decietfull.he air guitars great.i've even seen him play a barre chord,but master he is not.he has fooled everyone about as much as john kerry."


I had no idea!! eek
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Reply #1 posted 08/08/04 5:08am

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hmm
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Reply #2 posted 08/08/04 5:35am

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Reply #3 posted 08/08/04 5:41am

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I do not think that this is true at all. HOWEVER, on stage Prince has mimed his guitar to a pre-recorded DAT on the odd occasion. For example, on the livesexy video, During the redition of 'lets go crazy'. At one point, Prince is at centre stage and he is squated down to the floor with his right hand supporting the weight of his body behind him on the floor. A rapid fire guitar line kicks in, Prince is not playing his guitar though! Realising that he has missed his cue (u can tell by his reaction), he quickly resumes to mimimg the line, albeit too late.

Now, i'm aware that people are gonna be quick to defend prince and preach that he wasnt miming the guitar line. I was as saddened as the next person when i noticed it. The guitar work in that song had amazed me for years and finally when i discovered that he had mimed certain parts, i was let down.

Possible other explanations:

1) he was playing in unison with Miko and missed his cue. Thus there was at least ONE guitar playing when prince missed his cue. Wrong, it was prince's tone and style. Completely different from Miko's style.

2) He was 'hammering on/pulling off' the notes with his left hand. For the non-guitar player, these terms are methods of playing notes one handed. This would seem plausible if princes left hand was seen to be moving during the clip but it is not.


He mimed sad
You do as I say
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Reply #4 posted 08/08/04 6:31am

jayaredee

Wow, if this was true he would have made a major contradiction to himself regarding the lip synching.
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Reply #5 posted 08/08/04 6:54am

Spookymuffin

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Wow, if this was true he would have made a major contradiction to himself regarding the lip synching.


He lipsynched on the SOTT DVD/VHS
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Reply #6 posted 08/08/04 7:11am

Anxiety

And I've got more news for ya - HE WASN'T REALLY IN FARGO, EITHER!!!! mad
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Reply #7 posted 08/08/04 7:15am

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he's probably faked more than one orgasm in his lifetime too. big hurrah.
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Reply #8 posted 08/08/04 7:43am

salvo

Who was playing the guitar at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, there was plenty of guitarists up there but I think it was definately Prince doing his thing. It wasn't pre recorded or anything. It was smoking. At the after hours show at the HOB, it was him too. Give him his props, he can play a little bit. He's not Hendrix but who is lol
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Reply #9 posted 08/08/04 7:48am

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howcomeudontcallme said:


2) He was 'hammering on/pulling off' the notes with his left hand. For the non-guitar player, these terms are methods of playing notes one handed. This would seem plausible if princes left hand was seen to be moving during the clip but it is not.


He mimed sad



Well now wait a minute. If the action is low enough it wouldn't take much effort at all to play hammer ons and pull offs which might explain the apparent lack of obvious movement. Possible?
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Reply #10 posted 08/08/04 8:07am

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Know ur saying that Prince can't play guitar live. How stupid. And ur going 2 try 2 justify it. Dude ur reaching way 2 hard. U must B a Madonna fan. Anxiety, Can u please put this dude in his place?
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Reply #11 posted 08/08/04 8:19am

Spookymuffin

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Reply #12 posted 08/08/04 8:30am

RipHer2Shreds

Ever heard of rythm guitar and lead guitar? You're allowed to have more than one guitar at the same time.

his songwriting is so talented(bullcrap.does he go to berkley,g.i.t.,or any other music teaching school..no.does he put out video and cd/cassete teaching aids..no.

We should check Berkley and Juilliard to see if Clapton, Robert Johnson, Eddie Van Halen or Hendrix went there, much less if any of them released one of those classy how-to videos that so many of the other guitar greats have released guitar

has he ever done an unplugged session...no.is he on video backstage or in the studio just jamming on a guitar by himself ..no.decietfull

Guess it must have been one of the countless other musician's named Prince sitting up on stage strumming during the acoustic session on the Musicology tour. shrug

he air guitars great.i've even seen him play a barre chord,but master he is not.he has fooled everyone about as much as john kerry.

So, nobody? You've proved my point! wink
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Reply #13 posted 08/08/04 9:00am

PaisleyPark

Byron said:

Or so says some guy on some website I stumbled upon during my late night/early morning excursion online...

The topic was underrated and overrated guitarist...apparently someone must have listed Prince as underrated and this other guy responded:

"prince makes me laugh.i have seen him live twice.once in london and once in las vegas.both times he had the guitarist in the backline (who got no spotlight whatsoever)play the guitar parts and solo's while prince air guitared it.he's a shame,faking people out and you all bought it.so many excuses,he doesn't need to show off his solo talent cause his songwriting is so talented(bullcrap.does he go to berkley,g.i.t.,or any other music teaching school..no.does he put out video and cd/cassete teaching aids..no.has he ever done an unplugged session...no.is he on video backstage or in the studio just jamming on a guitar by himself ..no.decietfull.he air guitars great.i've even seen him play a barre chord,but master he is not.he has fooled everyone about as much as john kerry."


Prince is just a good guitar player but no master, that's the truth.
And he isn't a musical genius either, he's a succesful pop musician but no genius.

So basically this guy is telling the truth.
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Reply #14 posted 08/08/04 9:41am

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PaisleyPark said:

Byron said:

Or so says some guy on some website I stumbled upon during my late night/early morning excursion online...

The topic was underrated and overrated guitarist...apparently someone must have listed Prince as underrated and this other guy responded:

"prince makes me laugh.i have seen him live twice.once in london and once in las vegas.both times he had the guitarist in the backline (who got no spotlight whatsoever)play the guitar parts and solo's while prince air guitared it.he's a shame,faking people out and you all bought it.so many excuses,he doesn't need to show off his solo talent cause his songwriting is so talented(bullcrap.does he go to berkley,g.i.t.,or any other music teaching school..no.does he put out video and cd/cassete teaching aids..no.has he ever done an unplugged session...no.is he on video backstage or in the studio just jamming on a guitar by himself ..no.decietfull.he air guitars great.i've even seen him play a barre chord,but master he is not.he has fooled everyone about as much as john kerry."


Prince is just a good guitar player but no master, that's the truth.
And he isn't a musical genius either, he's a succesful pop musician but no genius.

So basically this guy is telling the truth.



hahahaha. Man if Prince is not a genius then there is no genius anymore. Someone who can do what he does in the studio, on stage and who released a sound that had changed the approach of music by creting this amazing electrofunk deserves to be called a genius.

I'm sorry you never had the opportunity to have Prince playing the guitar, the bass or the keyboards a yard away from you in a club. You would feel quite ridiculous right now.

In fact in the huge amounts of musicians I have seen in the same conditions in my life, only Miles Davis and Oscar Peterson have made the same effect tome and people who were there.

If you question that prince is a genius, I'm not questionning your...Finish the sentence yourself. smile
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Reply #15 posted 08/08/04 9:47am

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Looks like some one is just jealous ... please ignore...
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Reply #16 posted 08/08/04 10:11am

PaisleyPark

VINCENT said:

Someone who can do what he does in the studio, on stage and who released a sound that had changed the approach
of music by creting this amazing electrofunk deserves to be called a genius.



Electrofunk? Man please Prince just made a few nice pop/funk songs
in the 8ties but he is not a genius. Maybe he is a workaholic but that
does not make him a genius. Get over your fixation, please.

Not many musicians are geniuses and Prince isn't one of them!
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Reply #17 posted 08/08/04 10:28am

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PaisleyPark said:

...Not many musicians are geniuses and Prince isn't one of them!


So, Prince isn't one of the musicians who aren't geniuses? So he's a genius? Got it.
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Reply #18 posted 08/08/04 10:35am

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Who knew? eek
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #19 posted 08/08/04 10:40am

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May I be the first to nominate this as the most idiotic thread of the month ,sheesh confused
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Reply #20 posted 08/08/04 10:40am

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IGNORANCE!!!! Oh my heavens. THis forum is just dripping down the sides with IGNORANCE. Whoever this moron was that said prince fakes his guitar playing obviously knows less about playing guitar than a puppy with a broken paw. Of course Mike SCott strums the chords during the acoustic set. He's the rythmn guitar player. IF you watch what he does, you seem his strumming the basic rythmn. IT's no secret. If you watch what prince does you see him playing all the licks and funky syncopations. You can see it on the bigscreen clear as day that he's not faking. And if seen the tour 11 times this year. It's totally different every time. If Prince was going to rehearse fingersynching a freeflowing guitar riff, i garauntee you the show wouldn't change every night. And what about all those years where prince didn't even have a rythmn guitar player. Can someone say The One Night Alone Tour...I saw that one 10 times too, and it was different every night, and different on every bootleg. ANd what about The Undertaker.....C'mon....I can't believe I'm even dignifying this thread with a response, but i felt compelled to dilute this lunacy with some rational thought.
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Reply #21 posted 08/08/04 10:54am

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drclay said:

IGNORANCE!!!! Oh my heavens. THis forum is just dripping down the sides with IGNORANCE. Whoever this moron was that said prince fakes his guitar playing obviously knows less about playing guitar than a puppy with a broken paw. Of course Mike SCott strums the chords during the acoustic set. He's the rythmn guitar player. IF you watch what he does, you seem his strumming the basic rythmn. IT's no secret. If you watch what prince does you see him playing all the licks and funky syncopations. You can see it on the bigscreen clear as day that he's not faking. And if seen the tour 11 times this year. It's totally different every time. If Prince was going to rehearse fingersynching a freeflowing guitar riff, i garauntee you the show wouldn't change every night. And what about all those years where prince didn't even have a rythmn guitar player. Can someone say The One Night Alone Tour...I saw that one 10 times too, and it was different every night, and different on every bootleg. ANd what about The Undertaker.....C'mon....I can't believe I'm even dignifying this thread with a response, but i felt compelled to dilute this lunacy with some rational thought.

Thing is: I don't think 99.9% of the people on this site take it seriously.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #22 posted 08/08/04 11:24am

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Bull shit course he plays his guitar jesus what next he doesnt write his own songs his name is not Prince. I think if he faked his guitar playing we would have heard it by now as he has been out there playing his guitar since the late 70s such shit jealous crap. prince prince shoot3 punch saw laser blackeye uzi punching flipped off disbelief kitty
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Reply #23 posted 08/08/04 11:31am

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He lipsynched on the SOTT DVD/VHS


The SOTT movie was not live... well, it was recorded live, but the music tracks were recorded poorly, so they had to record most of the music anew in a studio afterwards. As a matter of fact, the majority of live albums/videos have got some overdubbed studio-work on it.
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Reply #24 posted 08/08/04 11:46am

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Byron said:

Or so says some guy on some website I stumbled upon during my late night/early morning excursion online...

The topic was underrated and overrated guitarist...apparently someone must have listed Prince as underrated and this other guy responded:

"prince makes me laugh.i have seen him live twice.once in london and once in las vegas.both times he had the guitarist in the backline (who got no spotlight whatsoever)play the guitar parts and solo's while prince air guitared it.he's a shame,faking people out and you all bought it.so many excuses,he doesn't need to show off his solo talent cause his songwriting is so talented(bullcrap.does he go to berkley,g.i.t.,or any other music teaching school..no.does he put out video and cd/cassete teaching aids..no.has he ever done an unplugged session...no.is he on video backstage or in the studio just jamming on a guitar by himself ..no.decietfull.he air guitars great.i've even seen him play a barre chord,but master he is not.he has fooled everyone about as much as john kerry."


I had no idea!! eek


lol That guy is a fucking riot! falloff

star

On the other hand...

howcomeudontcallme said:

I do not think that this is true at all. HOWEVER, on stage Prince has mimed his guitar to a pre-recorded DAT on the odd occasion. For example, on the livesexy video, During the redition of 'lets go crazy'. At one point, Prince is at centre stage and he is squated down to the floor with his right hand supporting the weight of his body behind him on the floor. A rapid fire guitar line kicks in, Prince is not playing his guitar though! Realising that he has missed his cue (u can tell by his reaction), he quickly resumes to mimimg the line, albeit too late.


hmm
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Reply #25 posted 08/08/04 12:07pm

Byron

We've been duped, people....duped!!! bawl
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Reply #26 posted 08/08/04 12:11pm

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CalhounSq said:

Byron said:

Or so says some guy on some website I stumbled upon during my late night/early morning excursion online...

The topic was underrated and overrated guitarist...apparently someone must have listed Prince as underrated and this other guy responded:

"prince makes me laugh.i have seen him live twice.once in london and once in las vegas.both times he had the guitarist in the backline (who got no spotlight whatsoever)play the guitar parts and solo's while prince air guitared it.he's a shame,faking people out and you all bought it.so many excuses,he doesn't need to show off his solo talent cause his songwriting is so talented(bullcrap.does he go to berkley,g.i.t.,or any other music teaching school..no.does he put out video and cd/cassete teaching aids..no.has he ever done an unplugged session...no.is he on video backstage or in the studio just jamming on a guitar by himself ..no.decietfull.he air guitars great.i've even seen him play a barre chord,but master he is not.he has fooled everyone about as much as john kerryline, albeit too late.


hmm

BULLSHIT GET A GRIP PRINCE PLAYS HIS FUCKING GUITAR LIVE GET A LIFE mad
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Reply #27 posted 08/08/04 12:33pm

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I wouldn't give a rat's ass, he's sexy as hell!

Got my undivided attention air guitar, lip sync, butt naked, whatever!
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Reply #28 posted 08/08/04 12:39pm

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Spookymuffin said:

jayaredee said:

Wow, if this was true he would have made a major contradiction to himself regarding the lip synching.


He lipsynched on the SOTT DVD/VHS


He was not lypsynching that was an overdubbed performance. With the exception of one song U Got The Look which was obviously the music video shoot of that whole show. But he did not lip synch other than that.

Peace
THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!!
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Reply #29 posted 08/08/04 12:40pm

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fit Prince isn't Prince anymore fit
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