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Thread started 07/24/04 5:39pm

darladee

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Is Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic a goodbye to Mayte?

Did they have "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold"? Man of War, Undisputed, I Love U but I Don't Trust You Anymore, and Strange but True all seem to pour out alot of pain to me and Wherever U go, Whatever U do seems so sad if viewed as referring to Mayte. Maybe this is all in my head, but it seems like these were written for her. Strange but True really blows my mind--it stirs up a whole sea of emotions! Anyone else think so?
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Reply #1 posted 07/24/04 5:42pm

luv4u

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I thinks he was singing about Mayte. Some artists that go through bad times do songs to get rid of the pain or tell their story to their fans.
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Reply #2 posted 07/24/04 6:05pm

darladee

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Thanks Luv4U. This question has been bugging me for some time. If this is truly the story he's telling his fans, then I'm even more amazed by him. The way he sings these, he tears your guts up right along with his!!! What an artist!!!!
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Reply #3 posted 07/24/04 9:00pm

chewymusic

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nod i have always thought that a lot of Rave was about Mayte.
"Hyperactive when I was small, Hyperactive now I'm grown, Hyperactive 'till I'm dead and gone"
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"Midnight is where the day begins"
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Reply #4 posted 07/24/04 9:26pm

EverlastingNow

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I'll never forget at the 2nd Celly when he played I Love U But I Don't... the second night, it was so BEAUTIFUL and at the end he WIPED his eyes...it even got to HIM. THAT was a moment!
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Reply #5 posted 07/26/04 4:43am

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I've always thought that a lot of the songs were in reference to Mayte. But the album is called Rave in2 the joy fantastic for crissakes! and there are more melancholy songs than Joyous ones. Just seems weird to me that he called an album by an amazingly upbeat name then put a lot of sad songs on it? he should have called it strange but true, that would have suited it better! and used the Rave title for a release of the original 88-89 version!!!!
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Reply #6 posted 07/26/04 4:53am

DavidEye

"Silly Game" sounds like it was definitely written for/about Mayte,but you never know.When I first heard this CD,I was shocked at how "personal" many of the songs are.
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Reply #7 posted 07/26/04 4:59am

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I think it didn't start out as such. Remember, he made a first configuration of the album
and let Clive listen to it in his limo.

Clive then suggested that he'd put some more 'commercial' sounding tracks on there
and Prince went back into the studio and wrote some more tracks.

I think the later tracks he wrote after that meeting must have been more about Mayté
and him than the earlier tracks. Since, heck, Mayte was still in a lot of pics together with
Prince around that time. A lot of those pics were even used to promote RAVE.

So they were probably not that much about Mayté as they were directed to how he was
feeling at the time. Most of his songs are fiction, as he said himself before. But even
if you write something that's a work of fiction, a lot of real emotions and feelings you're
dealing with at the time are poured into such a song or lyric.

Anywho, I keep wondering what the album sounded like BEFORE Clive told Prince to put
some more commercial songs on there.

Minus "Hot Wit U", "Silly Game" and some of the other cast-off pieces and instead adding
some more well-written more carefully thought out songs -this could have easily been a
very good effort for Prince. Instead, it contained just enough real good songs to fill an EP.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #8 posted 07/26/04 6:00am

OdysseyMiles

DavidEye said:

"Silly Game" sounds like it was definitely written for/about Mayte,but you never know.When I first heard this CD,I was shocked at how "personal" many of the songs are.


I agree. I got the same vibe when I first hear "Silly Game".
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Reply #9 posted 07/26/04 6:09am

Heidi

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Ok, then what about The Rainbow Children?? .. I mean i definitely see a few lines that may have been about mayté .. but then quite negative. Like he's bitter towards her now.
Anyone else feel this way?

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Reply #10 posted 07/26/04 12:32pm

David1974

Heidi said:

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Ok, then what about The Rainbow Children?? .. I mean i definitely see a few lines that may have been about mayté .. but then quite negative. Like he's bitter towards her now.
Anyone else feel this way?

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Yeah. But then again, love and hate are very close to one another. Loving somebody with all your heart can turn to hate when it all goes wrong, at least for a little while. After that, it get's better again. I think that was one of those moments. I bet he feels bitter towards her, for leaving him, but I don't think she had an easy life. It all went wrong once the baby died and he decided to hide it for the world. That was kind of hypocrith (spelled this wrong, I guess), especially when you listen to the lyrics on Emancipation and when you see the booklet. The second half of the '90s was a very sad era for Prince: trubble with the record companies, the name jokes, the baby that died, his marriage... No wonder he looked for something to hold on to. To bad it was Larry Graham and his JW...
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Reply #11 posted 07/26/04 2:33pm

Marrk

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It kind of makes this album better if taking all this in account. Kind of neutral
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Reply #12 posted 07/30/04 3:10pm

AsianBomb777

Heidi said:

[color=darkred:f8c56c9967]
Ok, then what about The Rainbow Children?? .. I mean i definitely see a few lines that may have been about mayté .. but then quite negative. Like he's bitter towards her now.
Anyone else feel this way?

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No. No. No.

I've established before that The Rainbow Children is about multi-colored fake vaginas manufactured in a factory owned by the Bush administration and funded by the Saudi Royal family in an attempt to make all real vaginas obsolete, thereby necessitating the importation of massive amounts of plastic vaginas at a marked up price, 3 times market value, every December. This massive influx of fake vaginas then allows real vaginas to be kept at a marginal price, and through vaginal control policies, the current adminstration can control inflation.

Poeple just don't understand.

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[This message was edited Fri Jul 30 15:14:05 2004 by AsianBomb777]
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Reply #13 posted 07/30/04 3:45pm

MrJoker

AsianBomb777 said:

Heidi said:

[color=darkred:f8c56c9967]
Ok, then what about The Rainbow Children?? .. I mean i definitely see a few lines that may have been about mayté .. but then quite negative. Like he's bitter towards her now.
Anyone else feel this way?

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No. No. No.

I've established before that The Rainbow Children is about multi-colored fake vaginas manufactured in a factory owned by the Bush administration and funded by the Saudi Royal family in an attempt to make all real vaginas obsolete, thereby necessitating the importation of massive amounts of plastic vaginas at a marked up price, 3 times market value, every December. This massive influx of fake vaginas then allows real vaginas to be kept at a marginal price, and through vaginal control policies, the current adminstration can control inflation.

Poeple just don't understand.

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[This message was edited Fri Jul 30 15:14:05 2004 by AsianBomb777]


Umm...

confuse

I agree! nod

lol
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Reply #14 posted 07/30/04 4:14pm

darladee

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Asian Bomb, I love your posts. They always make me go into hysterics and I love to laugh. Thanks and keep them coming!
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Reply #15 posted 07/30/04 4:25pm

darladee

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Everlasting Now, I wish I could have been there to see that one, but I'm kinda glad I wasn't. I probably would have been sobbing to beat the band. I read somewhere that Prince cheated on Mayte. Was that true? I also read that he was beginning his thing with Mani in 1998 already. Maybe he wrote I Love You, But I Don't Trust You about himself???? or was it perhaps a payback that Mayte gave him? Guess we'll never know.
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