considering they didnt even add the Call My Name Video to their playlist on MTV or MTV2
then this comment yesterday from mtv.com

".Without any tour dates to bolster his album sales — since a portion of every ticket price involuntarily buys a copy (see Billboard Sours On Prince's Musicology Sales Experiment") — Prince's Musicology plummeted 49 spots, from #16 to #64, two weeks ago. However, with last week's five-night run of shows in New York and New Jersey padding his weekly totals, the Purple One will re-enter the top 10 at #8, with more than 74,000 copies sold".

i would say Prince and MTV are on the outs again.....man i fucking hate MTV with a passion

I second your emotion about hating "empty-vee". They don't play hardly any videos anymore!!

I don't know when the hell MTV plays music videos anyway. All they ever show is reality shows. Every time a flip through the channels, I NEVER see a music video unless it's 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning.

VH1 used to be pretty good but they are getting to be just like MTV.

vainandy said:

vh1 dropped Call My Name from Medium rotation to "ON" this week which means good luck of every seeing it "on" again

This may be blasphemy, but "Call My Name" just isn't a single that catches most people's ear. I found it dreadfully boring.

And the video. Well, it's nice looking but that's about it.

He really needs to just go ahead and release Cinamon Girl or something.
Call My Name just isn't "Single" Material except in adult R&B audiences, and MTV & VH1 have very little intention of catering to that.

"Call My Name" isn't exactly one of my favorites either. "Cinnamon Girl" was the first track to catch my ear when I bought the album.

well, was i the only one who thought "man in yo life" SHOULD have been the next single?? would love hearing that on the radio!!

regardless on whether 'call my name' isn't your favorite song or if its too soulish for mtv, its still Prince's latest video and should be played everywhere...because theres tons of rubbish that doesn't appeal to each and everyone of us that still gets a great deal of airplay!

Like why play the same 10 videos all day when you got some new ones coming from PRINCE, ALANIS AND GEORGE MICHEAL!

Mtv is full of it!
If Mtv doesn't show his videos as much as they did MUSICOLOGY, of course sells will be low in retail...duh!

If Mtv didnt play Musicology often then I guarrantee this album wouldn't have sold as much as it did its first few weeks in stores...it wouldve only been concert sales, simply because BET didnt play it much and Vh1 isn't everyones favorite music tv network!

some cable companies don't even carry BET and the record buying public largely views MTV or listens to radio and we know how radio feels about PRINCE!

Mtv played "Morning Papers, Betcha By Golly Wow, and The Greatest Romance' Videos and reading so many negative comments about PRINCE releasing ballads and so on....MTV didnt seem to mind playing those videos, especially Morning Papers, which was pre-slave days for PRINCE...So there's a reason why MTV isn't showing this video and BABY YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT AIN'T ABOUT THE SONG BEING WEAK!!!
Because MTV already has the weakest playlist on the planet!!!
'Call My Name' is a great song, it ranks up there next to any ballad of the past, Mtv is just busy catering to Fat Joe, Jo Jo, and Hillary Duff, all of which aren't that great any damn way!
These songs will not even be thought of in 5 years...
As much as I support Terror Squad and Fat Joe! (Latino 4 LIFE)...but 'Call My Name' is alot better...its only because PRINCE doesn't kiss MTV's ASS!

I bet Cinnamon Girl will be the next video thou!
If Europe gets it soon, I'm sure it'll be rushed to the USA, being that its the kind of song VH1 and MTV wants PRINCE to sing anyways!

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Mazerati said:

Rule # 1: Ignore MTV.

Rule # 2: If tempted to watch MTV, see rule # 1.

Luv & Peace,
Alex
The ONLY Catwoman review w/ Prince!

dolphin2K4 said:

But they do play constant repeats of Beavis and Butthead, even though a new episode hasn't aired in almost a decade.

Luv & Peace,
Alex
The ONLY Catwoman review w/ Prince!

vainandy said:

And MTV2, which was meant to be a VIDEO ONLY channel, is getting just like MTV and VH1. It's pretty sad. If you want to watch actual videos, you have to turn to FUSE, but they mostly play fake punk. I called FUSE and asked them where the hell Prince is. They had the nerve to respond to me by saying, "that's the question all of us have been asking for over a decade."

Luv & Peace,
Alex
The ONLY Catwoman review w/ Prince!

AsianBomb777 said:

I agree. Call My Name is pretty boring, unless you're using it at a wedding reception. On the other hand, Cinnamon Girl friggin' ROCKS and could possibly make it on MTV and MTV2 and would FOR SURE get plenty of airtime on VH1.

Luv & Peace,
Alex
The ONLY Catwoman review w/ Prince!

sloopydrew4u said:

vainandy said:

Exactly.MTV is a joke these days.

MTV is a joke these days. where the hell are the music videos instead of those senseless shows that have become the network's norm? Having said that, though, I can't fault them for not playing CMN because the song - and video, for that matter - lacks the kind of appeal that videos in rotation seem to have. I agree with the earlier note that neither the song nor the video would enjoy any measure of support.

Man, MTV sucks monkey ass. I don't remember the last time MTV was worth a damn. Plus, I think that CMN could be a big hit if they just played the damn thing. I don't find it boring or too slow. It's a great song that should be heard and a cool video that should be seen by all. Having said that, I would really like to see Prince release Cinnamon Girl as the next single. I agree with those who said that the video and song would get a lot of airplay.

I like Call my name...its just a bad follow up....but hate Cinamonomoin girl

AsianBomb777 said:

co-sign. nice, but not much beyond that in my opinion.'cinammon girl' or 'dear mr. man' would have been good picks. or 'on the couch would have been a better choice for a ballad. at least that song kind of highlights his vocals, and he displays good humor on that cut.

dealodelandron said:

A couple weeks ago I took MTV and VH1 off my tv's memory so I don't even have to see what they're playing if I'm surfing. As for "Call My Name", I think it sounds really good on the radio when you hear it. Is it my fave Prince ballad? No. But it's a good ballad. It's as good as "Burn" or "Confessions".

vainandy said:

Does MTV still play music? Because I heard that Jessica Simpson's father bought out the channel and took over programming???

Am I the only one that thinks that ICP&C would be a big one to market? I've been a big Prince fan for a VERY long time and in my opinion it's the hottest song on the CD..it's also one of the Prince songs that I would love to crawl in his head and find out what he was thinking about when he wrote it.

I'd love yo hear what others think about this.

As far as MTV goes - I lost that lovin feelin a long time ago..the reality thing is getting rediculous.

Voidra said:

I agree...marketing-wise, ICP&C would be a great single. The video for that could be silly/funky. Lyric-wise, it's a silly song, but it goes great with what is typically played on MTV nowadays. It seems that folks want MTV to change a programming that works for it ($$$) to allow for different videos to be played. Quit thinking about MTV as a struggling channel that was trying to be vanguard. That was the early to late 80's, not now. I'm 31, and I could only truly recognize a fraction of the acts on the channel...that tells you something. I stick to my guns, to what my ears like. For me, and probably for many others here, this would be the 80's and 90's. Why? Because that's the flavor that I liked when I was the correct MTV age. I like 80's music, and don't care that much for today's acts. Prince is an 80's artist (in the sense that at that time he was in the limelight), and I dig his music as well as many other 80's acts. However, MTV doesn't see this and won't. Why should they, when they have youngbuck acts like Usher to fall on. Ten, fifteen years from now, these MTV-watching kids will gripe about the same thing, wishing they had Usher to listen to, and wishing his videos would still be in rotation. It's just how things are.

I mean, MTV plays little homage to great acts (prince included) of the past. Oh, they have few exceptions, like Madonna. But, she's a unique breed in that she is able to still come out with music that the young crowd can relate to.

Could Prince do this? Sure he could. Has he? Yes, in my opinion, ICP&C would fill this nitch very nicely. Should he release this single, then yes, MTV would most likely play it (at least for a couple of weeks). That channel is as fickle as it's viewers, anyway!

Do I see ICP&C being a single anytime soon? Sadly, no. It would be a fun song. However, prince isn't out to please the other masses. He let's the CD do the talking, not the video. This has always been the case. The only difference between now and back then is that people in majority dug the music prior to the video, that's all.

P.S. - I remember watching the top 20 countdown in the afternoon. This was followed by blocks of videos. I remember watching premier videos on mtv and waiting for them.

In fact, FUCK IT, i remember Video One with Richard Blade. HELL! Bring that shit back. It played more videos on it's one hour show than MTV does all day now.
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mtv sucks. I dont watch it. it sucks. leave Prince off it anyway, the kids that watch it dont know or care about a real musician, they care about justin timberwack and britney or whoever. that channel isnt for real musicians anymore. it sucks.

It seems like I see Call My Name every time I turn on VH1 Soul and many other Prince videos on VH1 Classic--heck, VH1 Classic played I Wish U Heaven the other day. I've only seen that video like one time since it came out!

I've been hearing a lot of Prince songs on Detroit radio lately too. Much more than usual. Does anyone from Detroit every listen to 90.9 (the Detroit Public School station)? They love to be kicking out some old Prince, The Time and many other funk bands from back in the day. I love them!

'Call My Name' is Prince at his blandest.

If MTV had played 'Call My Name' even once, then they'd have done him a far bigger favour than the song deserves.

It just isn't single material (or even album material). He's done songs like this SO many times before, and SO much better each time.

MTV are, like just about every other commercial TV station out there, trying to gain as many viewers as possible - and there's nothing wrong with that. 'Call My Name' just won't keep people interested. Why the hell should they play it?

In 2004, Prince is irrelevant on the popular music scene. The stations that are playing his music are playing it purely because of who he is. If a new artist came up with the Musicology album, it's highly unlikely that it would get any airplay.

Personally, I'm quite happy about that as it means that he's more likely to concentrate on the fans and provide us with more interesting, less commercial-orientated music, á la The Rainbow Children and NEWS. Music that comes from Prince's heart, not from his money-making head.

It seems odd that the man who always claimed that he wasn't interested in record sales devised a scheme where he'd give away a CD at concerts that would up the chart position of that particular CD.

Haystack said:

how is an artist who sells 172,000 copies the 1st week of an album irrelevant? and that wasnt counting the cd giveaways..also i guarantee you if Usher had done Call My Name MTV would have played it like crazy

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Interesting point...just goes to show you that MTV looks at image. Like I said, the station is as fickle as its viewers.

Let's face it, prince is old school, and there's nothing wrong with that. Be content with knowing that he is legit. Hand any of those top ten artists on mtv an acoustic and a mic and let's see what they can really do. No playback, no backup singers, nothing but an acoustic and a mic. Hmm....where did the top ten go now?!?

If you have that kind of reality, then who really gives a care about what MTV plays. Besides, you don't actually think that serious music lovers listen to MTV for any period of time. In my opinion, true lovers of music won't watch mtv, because mtv only deals with image, not musical product.

This same type of mentality transcends to radio as well. So yes, Haystack's words are correct, Prince IS irrelevant on the popular music scene. But today's music scene is populated with, not "one-hit wonders" (that was the 80's), but rather "one-cd wonders". Seldom do you see a new so-called musician or band go beyond that first CD. Today's music is plagued with the sophomore slump.

No, Prince, who's been around since the late 70's, does not belong among those who will not be heard of come January 2005. Take note of the top 20 on the Billboards this week and compare it six months from now. Chances are, not one of those artists will be around on that chart.

Wasn't prince playing what was in back in the 80's? Sure he was, he was edgy then and he played stuff that was catchy for the time to the youngins. He was "Popular". As he began to experiment through the years, he alienated himself from the young "popular" kids who were attracted to music that is not complex or expanding. Better for us who have stuck with him, and who cares for those that dismissed him as not being "cool" anymore.

Today, he is even more alienated from the general music masses. This just demonstrates how narrow-minded the listeners of MTV can be. Not all of them, of course, but many.

Again I say, prince, nor any other well-deserved true musician out there, do not need MTV to deem them "cool", "hip", "popular" or anything else of the like.

And yeah, MTV would have played Usher singing "Call My Name". But there's a flaw there....because you and I and everyone else here knows that Usher and anyone else who's "Popular" out there could never write anything as cool as Call My Name. Not the wasy it is presented by Prince.

I guess it all goes back to the idea of Musicology....

Mazerati said:

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True about Usher. If Usher has recorded Call My Name you would see the video 100 times a day. Keep in mind Usher just put out two ballads back to back and some portion of the record buying public seems to like his ballads. Prince is just getting dissed because of his past comments and his age.

Mtv is still around?