Prince
should grab his balls and release 'Dear Mr Man,' as his next single. Prince hasn't stood up and made a strong political/state of the world commentary through song or video since SOTT and that song was not paired with a strong video (complete with powerful imagery) to get the message to the people. Prince needs to stop being afraid to use his music to say what he believes is wrong with the world; especially in these trying times.
I really believe that Prince missed the boat by not releasing 'last decemba' with a video after 9-11-01. The song contained a strong message that people really needed/were longing to hear at that point in time. The same is true with Dear Mr Man.
The great ones (Marvin, Stevie, John Lennon, Marley, Dylyn, Sly, etc ,) never shyed away when the time to stand up came around . The time is now for Prince to do the same. The music industry is currently chock full of cowards who are afraid to challenge the political powers that be for fear of retribution from their corporate underlings. Prince should set an example by speaking out. He's an elder statesman now and people respect what he has to say.
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I somehow also connect this song with Money Don't Matter 2Nite.

Should Prince ask Michael Moore to make the video?

chrisslope9 said:

i was thinkin the same thing when i seen him perform it on the art of musicology special.

I love Dear Mr.Man

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I was just thinking the same last night.

This song does remind me of a Gaye protest ballad.

MaquisVixen said:

me 2

MamaLisa said:

Me 3

I think it would be a great single, but it would be a huge mistake to have Michael Moore do the video. Isn't he sort of a laughing stock among most people now that much of his latest movie has been discredited? I know there is a certain group that believes some of it, but now that so much has been proven innacurate, I'd stay away from him. Even Kerry won't acknowledge that they agree. He is political suicide for Prince to use.

I couldn't agree more on this choise of single! Isn't there a way we could get this message through on NPGMC? And I mean, through!

Agree as well...

I love this song, but I personally wouldn't want him to release a song with the line "Ain't no point in voting" in the election season. I know that's my personal opinion, but I think that sends a very disempowering message to the audience, and I doubt MTV would play it, given their Rock The Vote stance.

I love the song, though - maybe he could do what John Lennon did on The Beatles' Revolution, and change that one line to something like "Ain't nothin' more important than voting"

booyah said:

well it wouldn't matter what the line was mtv still wouldn't play it. and if they did it would b late @ night. like they did musicology. plus y should he change the line? when he put the line n the song he was grabbin his balls and makin a statement. y should he let his balls go and throw the statment out the window?

Why? lyrically it's naive.

you can't moan about politics and in the same breath tell people 'aint no sense in voting, same song with a different name', Please! and the reference to the ozone layer? how very 1980's?

oh and 'we're tired of y'all' isn't three words, it could be as many as six!

Marrk said:

Hey if Michael Jackson did it with Earth Song and Heal the World. Prince could do it too.

I love this song. I do.

However, that line about voting rubs me the wrong way. I know Prince may feel that way, and he is entitiled to, but when I think about all the sacrifice that people went through to try to get the vote, I am a little unsettled.


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Bsunshine said:[quote]I think it would be a great single, but it would be a huge mistake to have Michael Moore do the video. Isn't he sort of a laughing stock among most people now that much of his latest movie has been discredited? I know there is a certain group that believes some of it, but now that so much has been proven innacurate, I'd stay away from him. Even Kerry won't acknowledge that they agree. He is political suicide for Prince to use.
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Bsunshine said:

where the heck do you get your info from sweety. NOTHING, not one fact, NADA, zero, of Mr. Moore's film has been 'discredited.' I bet you haven't even seen the film. I bet the people who write for the new york post and fox news MADE UP YOUR MIND ABOUT FARENHEIGHT 911 FOR YOU, instead of YOU figuring out how you feel about it for yourself by (GASP) doing some research on your own or (GOD FORBID) reading a book or two on the subjects presented in the film.


Kerry on Larry King Live last week:

King: why do you say you have no interest in seeing Mr. Moore's film.

Kerry: I don't have to . I've been watching it in real life for the past four years.
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chrisslope9 said:

Thank you for proving my point. Kerry won't do a photo op or acknowledge going to see the film because it is full of holes and I mean GAPING holes. I saw it after the 2nd week and anyone who reads the papers can see the problems with the film. I am glad you have taken such a concern in what I am thinking. If you want to see where the rest of us have been clued in, check out http://www.davekopel.com/...it-911.htm

it is a pretty good site that lists many of the problems in F. 911. You don't have to read it if you don't want to open your mind, but if you really are open to the truth, check it out. Have a great one!

B

Bsunshine said:

you have got to be joking. THIS IS AN NRA (national rifle association) sponsered site. Of course they are going to smear mr moore's name . ever heard of BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE. so, exactly how many killing machines do you own??? and what part of the south are you from ???

WOW, i found this on the site that you told me to check out.

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[This message was edited Sun Jul 25 22:50:54 2004 by chrisslope9]

found this too .....






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It is a GOOD Song . Kinda RAPISH . DEAR MR Man Could Be a COOL Song. Remember how he Released MONEY DON"T MATTER WITH SPIKE LEE Doing the VIDEO? Well, this Could be like ANOTHER good song On SOCIAL COMMENTARY.

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I love DMM. It sounds very Gil Scott Heron to me.

Has anyone noticed how much GSH has been influencing P's music over the last 5+ years?

The War was the obvious sign,but I think GSH is a model for P's attempts to incorporate an intelligent political dialectic with his music. Anybody?

Marrk said:

So the ozone and global warming is NOT a problem any longer? I think the statistics would show that you're wrong. The cumulative impact on the ozone by developing countries alone is more than twice the total level 30 years ago. But I guess its the old motto: out of sight out of mind, no?

And I think MOST Prince fans know that the "We're tired a y'all" statement is a joke...

as far as mr moores film, there are too many TRUTHS TO IT! I am neither demo or repub.....Only people trying to say this is lies are hard core bush supporters cause they know there time is close to OVER!!!!!


Dear Mr Man, Prince was RIGHT ON WITH THIS ONE!!!!!

This song would be perfect save for the line about voting. The only way I can stand it is to think of it as "how the people feel that there's no sense in voting" because they are underwhelmed by the choices, rather than advice from Prince that it's better not to vote period. Despite this, I've often stopped to song right before the line rather than hear it once more. Makes my liberal hair stand on my back.

Fuck that.

He should release 'Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance' with a Neptunes remix.