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Thread started 07/16/04 11:59pm

DMSR

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The real problem with the new band is it's lost the Mpls sound..

What would the Mpls sound be without the synth horns. Real horns give him the old skool feel, the synth horns are Prince. Everybody copied that sound from Phil Collins "Sussudio" to Van Halen "Jump" Ready for the World, Stevie Nicks and the list goes on. Now Prince is using real horns and sounding like his forefathers, James B, Sly and almost any 70's funk band.

He's also lost the Chic style funk guitar on his new stuff. To me it never gets old.

Anyway that's my 2 cents.. I've found that it's not usually the best technically trained musicians that make the best bands. They usually don't have soul. Check out the E Street Band, Rolling Stones, and a host of others. Those guys don't read music but they got it down and they have their own sound.
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Reply #1 posted 07/17/04 12:02am

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I still wanna see Prince go industrial.
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Reply #2 posted 07/17/04 12:31am

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DMSR said:

What would the Mpls sound be without the synth horns. Real horns give him the old skool feel, the synth horns are Prince.

"Housequake" used real horns...

"Billy Jack Bitch" used real horns...

"Slow Love" used real horns...

"Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" used real horns...

"Alphabet St." used real horns...

"Sexy MF" used real horns...

The live version of "Rebirth Of The Flesh" used real horns...

Are these songs the weak ones of the bunch or something??...
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Reply #3 posted 07/17/04 10:02am

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I didn't know that there was a problem with his new band. There the best band that I have seen in recent years.
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Reply #4 posted 07/17/04 10:47am

PRNelson

EvilWhiteMale said:

I still wanna see Prince go industrial.



I dont think he's gonna become a miner any time soon biggrin
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Reply #5 posted 07/17/04 10:57am

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I think this whole "Prince isn't Prince without synth/synth horns" is so BS.
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Reply #6 posted 07/17/04 11:24am

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calldapplwondery83 said:

I think this whole "Prince isn't Prince without synth/synth horns" is so BS.


Co-sign.

He's still good ol' Prince with or without the synth horns as far as I'm concerned.

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Reply #7 posted 07/17/04 11:43am

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DMSR said:

What would the Mpls sound be without the synth horns. Real horns give him the old skool feel, the synth horns are Prince. Everybody copied that sound from Phil Collins "Sussudio" to Van Halen "Jump" Ready for the World, Stevie Nicks and the list goes on. Now Prince is using real horns and sounding like his forefathers, James B, Sly and almost any 70's funk band.

He's also lost the Chic style funk guitar on his new stuff. To me it never gets old.

Anyway that's my 2 cents.. I've found that it's not usually the best technically trained musicians that make the best bands. They usually don't have soul. Check out the E Street Band, Rolling Stones, and a host of others. Those guys don't read music but they got it down and they have their own sound.



Have you seen the "Musicology" tour? He plays that chicken scratch funk guitar ALOT. He plays "DMSR" and "Let's Work" and they use the synth horns. You don't get much more MPLS sound than that. Besides if he kept it the same instruments he'd sound like The Time-just the same for the last 20 years. Prince isn't about that.
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Reply #8 posted 07/17/04 11:43am

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i think the band sounds great. do i think the horn arrangements get a little gratuitous sometimes? well, sure. but not so much that it ruins the shows for me. i think the current NPG is really focused and sharp - there's not a tony m. in the bunch.
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Reply #9 posted 07/17/04 12:11pm

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One day some people want Prince to pigeonhole himself forever, the next day they want him to do a complete 180. And twice on Sundays the rest want him to be all things to all people. It's good he doesn't pay attention to such burdensome minutia. He couldn't win if he tried.
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Reply #10 posted 07/17/04 1:01pm

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Supernova said:

One day some people want Prince to pigeonhole himself forever, the next day they want him to do a complete 180. And twice on Sundays the rest want him to be all things to all people. It's good he doesn't pay attention to such burdensome minutia. He couldn't win if he tried.


I agree. What you said is obvious to most people I think. Some people can't seem to grasp it.
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Reply #11 posted 07/17/04 7:09pm

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Supernova said:

One day some people want Prince to pigeonhole himself forever, the next day they want him to do a complete 180. And twice on Sundays the rest want him to be all things to all people. It's good he doesn't pay attention to such burdensome minutia. He couldn't win if he tried.



This should be in the Member's Quotes section. wink
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Reply #12 posted 07/17/04 7:47pm

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I'm not a real jazz fan, but I LOVE Prince best when it's all mostly Rock, Funk & R&B...too jazzy is not my fav' type of music.
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Reply #13 posted 07/17/04 9:45pm

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MrTation said:

Supernova said:

One day some people want Prince to pigeonhole himself forever, the next day they want him to do a complete 180. And twice on Sundays the rest want him to be all things to all people. It's good he doesn't pay attention to such burdensome minutia. He couldn't win if he tried.



This should be in the Member's Quotes section. wink


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Reply #14 posted 07/17/04 10:17pm

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MrTation said:

Supernova said:

One day some people want Prince to pigeonhole himself forever, the next day they want him to do a complete 180. And twice on Sundays the rest want him to be all things to all people. It's good he doesn't pay attention to such burdensome minutia. He couldn't win if he tried.



This should be in the Member's Quotes section. wink


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Reply #15 posted 07/17/04 10:24pm

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CalhounSq said:

MrTation said:




This should be in the Member's Quotes section. wink


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Reply #16 posted 07/17/04 10:29pm

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luv4u said:

CalhounSq said:



DONE... Thanks Luv4U!! mr.green You famous, Supernova! lol


Your welcome biggrin


where's the member's quote section confuse
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Reply #17 posted 07/17/04 10:30pm

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psykosoul said:

luv4u said:



Your welcome biggrin


where's the member's quote section confuse


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Reply #18 posted 07/17/04 10:32pm

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CalhounSq said:

psykosoul said:



where's the member's quote section confuse


Front page @ the bottom smile


Damn, I never even noticed that. And I've been quoted before. redface
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Reply #19 posted 07/17/04 10:49pm

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It's been months since I've looked at that area, I had no idea I had another quote down there.


Aiight, there's nothing to see here...everybody back to the subject now, move along...cop
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Reply #20 posted 07/17/04 10:50pm

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DMSR said:

What would the Mpls sound be without the synth horns. Real horns give him the old skool feel, the synth horns are Prince. Everybody copied that sound from Phil Collins "Sussudio" to Van Halen "Jump" Ready for the World, Stevie Nicks and the list goes on. Now Prince is using real horns and sounding like his forefathers, James B, Sly and almost any 70's funk band.

He's also lost the Chic style funk guitar on his new stuff. To me it never gets old.

Anyway that's my 2 cents.. I've found that it's not usually the best technically trained musicians that make the best bands. They usually don't have soul. Check out the E Street Band, Rolling Stones, and a host of others. Those guys don't read music but they got it down and they have their own sound.


I totally agree, the Minneapolis Sound is the synth sound!!!!! I have been saying that since 1985 dammitt!!!!!
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Reply #21 posted 07/17/04 10:53pm

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Byron said:

DMSR said:

What would the Mpls sound be without the synth horns. Real horns give him the old skool feel, the synth horns are Prince.

"Housequake" used real horns...

"Billy Jack Bitch" used real horns...

"Slow Love" used real horns...

"Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" used real horns...

"Alphabet St." used real horns...

"Sexy MF" used real horns...

The live version of "Rebirth Of The Flesh" used real horns...

Are these songs the weak ones of the bunch or something??...


No, those songs are not weak, they are bad as Hell. They sounded better than anything else out there at the time but they are not Prince's best.....the "old Prince".....the synth Minneapolis sound.
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Reply #22 posted 07/18/04 1:09am

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Supernova said:

It's been months since I've looked at that area, I had no idea I had another quote down there.


I didn't either lol Doesn't surprise me though since you da baddest mofo lowdown around 'nis town... SHO NUFF! wink
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Reply #23 posted 07/18/04 1:15am

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DMSR said:

What would the Mpls sound be without the synth horns. Real horns give him the old skool feel, the synth horns are Prince.


Prince used real horns way back. Offhand, I know he used them on Sign 'O' The Times, but maybe even further back than that. This Minnesota resident would take real horns over synth, any day. I've never associated synth horns with the Minneapolis sound.

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Reply #24 posted 07/18/04 1:05pm

vainandy

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sloopydrew4u said

Prince used real horns way back. Offhand, I know he used them on Sign 'O' The Times, but maybe even further back than that.


"Sign O The Times" is not way back.
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Reply #25 posted 07/18/04 3:36pm

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Prince goes through phases. He said he disliked real horns in 81, but in 84-87 he had a massive horn phase (Family, Parade, SOTT etc).

He's having another phase (2002-200?)
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Reply #26 posted 07/18/04 3:46pm

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sloopydrew4u said:

Prince used real horns way back. Offhand, I know he used them on Sign 'O' The Times, but maybe even further back than that.

forgot about the parade era...hell, the live horns go back to at least the pr era.
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Reply #27 posted 07/18/04 3:53pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

sloopydrew4u said:

Prince used real horns way back. Offhand, I know he used them on Sign 'O' The Times, but maybe even further back than that.

forgot about the parade era...hell, the live horns go back to at least the pr era.


Exactly! P started subbing keys with horns on the PR tour I believe. Sheila's influence was rubbing off and Eddie M and Eric began overtaking the Baby I'm a Star Encores.

Before we knew it, ATWIAD had real horns added, Romance 1600, and then The Family, and so on.
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Reply #28 posted 07/18/04 4:54pm

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The first time I remember hearing horns was on the "I Would Die 4 U" 12 Inch. That was the beginning of the end of the "Minneapolis Sound" he made so famous.
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Reply #29 posted 07/18/04 5:10pm

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Supernova said:

One day some people want Prince to pigeonhole himself forever, the next day they want him to do a complete 180. And twice on Sundays the rest want him to be all things to all people. It's good he doesn't pay attention to such burdensome minutia. He couldn't win if he tried.

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