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Reply #180 posted 10/06/19 1:25pm

Mumio

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I think what is significant is that you turn every thread you post in, into a thread about Susannah, just like you use to do about Andy.

lol lol

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Reply #181 posted 10/06/19 1:26pm

violetcrush

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



I think what is significant is that you turn every thread you post in, into a thread about Susannah, just like you use to do about Andy.


lol Think about your completely irrational logic here. If I were someone who thought that Andy Allo was Prince’s greatest love why in the world would I argue about Susannah’s role in his life?? Does that make ANY sense?? Nope! I can assure you that I am not FlyOnTheWall - or whatever his/ her username was.
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Reply #182 posted 10/06/19 1:30pm

violetcrush

Mumio said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




I think what is significant is that you turn every thread you post in, into a thread about Susannah, just like you use to do about Andy.





lol lol


And just like that the “harem vultures” are back lol eek
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Reply #183 posted 10/06/19 1:34pm

Morgaine

violetcrush said:

TheTruth123 said:

https://prince.org/msg/5/432850


Aww, come on!! When Prince first met Mayte he was publicly with a plethora of women, and continued to be through the early to mid 90’s!! Lori Elle, Carmen, Robin P, Troy Beyer, Nona Gaye, the woman in the Insatiable video, etc etc.
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He was as ready to settle down as a Gigolo in his prime biggrin
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He never changed regardless of his age.


Why is it so difficult for you to believe & accept he loved Mayte, married her & wanted to have children with her? It does not mean he didn't love Susannah, Denise. He chose to marry Mayte, try to have children & a family with her, lost those children, cheated, & basically forced her to divorce him. Then he married Mani & I believe he loved her, too, or at least believed he did. And cheated on her, too.

Two common themes with his relationships were infidelity & forcing/making them so uncomfortable they had to leave him.

We know he was not faithful to any female throughout his relationships/marriages. That does not mean he loved any of them any more or less.
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Reply #184 posted 10/06/19 1:40pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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violetcrush said:

Mumio said:

lol lol

And just like that the “harem vultures” are back lol eek



There ya go again with name calling.

This is a Larry Graham thread not a Susannah thread.

Start a Susannah thread instead of killing this thread.

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Reply #185 posted 10/06/19 1:50pm

Morgaine

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



violetcrush said:


Mumio said:




lol lol



And just like that the “harem vultures” are back lol eek



There ya go again with name calling.



This is a Larry Graham thread not a Susannah thread.



Start a Susannah thread instead of killing this thread.



Thank you yes
So to get back to topic, who thinks LG took advantage of P? Why or why not? Do you think P joining the JWs was beneficial for him or not?

Can't say I didn't try 😄
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Reply #186 posted 10/06/19 1:51pm

violetcrush

Morgaine said:

violetcrush said:



Aww, come on!! When Prince first met Mayte he was publicly with a plethora of women, and continued to be through the early to mid 90’s!! Lori Elle, Carmen, Robin P, Troy Beyer, Nona Gaye, the woman in the Insatiable video, etc etc.
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He was as ready to settle down as a Gigolo in his prime biggrin
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He never changed regardless of his age.


Why is it so difficult for you to believe & accept he loved Mayte, married her & wanted to have children with her? It does not mean he didn't love Susannah, Denise. He chose to marry Mayte, try to have children & a family with her, lost those children, cheated, & basically forced her to divorce him. Then he married Mani & I believe he loved her, too, or at least believed he did. And cheated on her, too.

Two common themes with his relationships were infidelity & forcing/making them so uncomfortable they had to leave him.

We know he was not faithful to any female throughout his relationships/marriages. That does not mean he loved any of them any more or less.

I do believe that he loved Mayte and cared for her. I just don’t think there would have been a marriage without a pregnancy. That is just my opinion based on the timing of the wedding and Mayte stating much later that she carried the baby to term - even though back in 1996 it was reported to have been a premature birth.
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I think he was excited to be a Father and he was going to try to make it work. You are 100% right - he was not monogamous with any woman.
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Reply #187 posted 10/06/19 2:14pm

violetcrush

Morgaine said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



violetcrush said:


Mumio said:




lol lol



And just like that the “harem vultures” are back lol eek



There ya go again with name calling.



This is a Larry Graham thread not a Susannah thread.



Start a Susannah thread instead of killing this thread.



Thank you yes
So to get back to topic, who thinks LG took advantage of P? Why or why not? Do you think P joining the JWs was beneficial for him or not?

Can't say I didn't try 😄

C’mon Morgaine, you were also deep into the discussion of the women smile These chicks like to pop up out of nowhere which seems to indicate they are following my posts. It’s okay though. Does not phase me one bit biggrin
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Reply #188 posted 10/06/19 2:21pm

violetcrush

violetcrush said:

Morgaine said:



Thank you yes
So to get back to topic, who thinks LG took advantage of P? Why or why not? Do you think P joining the JWs was beneficial for him or not?

Can't say I didn't try 😄

C’mon Morgaine, you were also deep into the discussion of the women smile These chicks like to pop up out of nowhere which seems to indicate they are following my posts. It’s okay though. Does not phase me one bit biggrin

Oh, and just for the record, the discussion of Prince’s women - beginning with Mayte, Andy Allo, and Manuela - started on page 2 of this thread. None of which were initiated by me. smile
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Reply #189 posted 10/06/19 2:33pm

Morgaine

violetcrush said:

Morgaine said:



Thank you yes
So to get back to topic, who thinks LG took advantage of P? Why or why not? Do you think P joining the JWs was beneficial for him or not?

Can't say I didn't try 😄

C’mon Morgaine, you were also deep into the discussion of the women smile These chicks like to pop up out of nowhere which seems to indicate they are following my posts. It’s okay though. Does not phase me one bit biggrin


More my guilt complex about not being on topic than your comments.
I definitely don't agree with some of what you post, we've had our disagreements in the past. However, I'm always open to discussion & truly enjoy being able to discuss without either of us insulting the other.
That said, I think to continue discussing his relationships with women, another thread should be started. eye
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Reply #190 posted 10/06/19 2:44pm

violetcrush

Morgaine said:

violetcrush said:


C’mon Morgaine, you were also deep into the discussion of the women smile These chicks like to pop up out of nowhere which seems to indicate they are following my posts. It’s okay though. Does not phase me one bit biggrin


More my guilt complex about not being on topic than your comments.
I definitely don't agree with some of what you post, we've had our disagreements in the past. However, I'm always open to discussion & truly enjoy being able to discuss without either of us insulting the other.
That said, I think to continue discussing his relationships with women, another thread should be started. eye

I think you have been posting the way all should here - respectfully and
rationally. I agree that the “relationships with women” are for another thread. However, to be fair, I was not responsible for the initial posts about his relationship with the women. These threads often “ebb and flow” in and around various things as they relate to the main subject. Relationships with women were always intertwined with other aspects of Prince’s life - with songs, events, performances, etc. He wrote the most about love, sex and female relationships.
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Reply #191 posted 10/06/19 3:06pm

mELdOURADOsELV
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Prince and Larry Graham thread has turned into a Susannah stan thread.

eek



Yeah, I forgot what this thread was about already.. duh
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Reply #192 posted 10/06/19 3:06pm

Mumio

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

violetcrush said:

Mumio said: And just like that the “harem vultures” are back lol eek



There ya go again with name calling.

This is a Larry Graham thread not a Susannah thread.

Start a Susannah thread instead of killing this thread.

Yep. Name calling because you made a specific point that is true.

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Reply #193 posted 10/06/19 3:17pm

PeggyO

Mumio said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I think what is significant is that you turn every thread you post in, into a thread about Susannah, just like you use to do about Andy.

lol lol

I agree...I think she is the same poster.

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Reply #194 posted 10/06/19 3:35pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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violetcrush said:


C’mon Morgaine, you were also deep into the discussion of the women smile These chicks like to pop up out of nowhere which seems to indicate they are following my posts. It’s okay though. Does not phase me one bit biggrin



Dont flatter yourself.

I posted on this thread 3 days before you made an appearance.

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Reply #195 posted 10/06/19 3:41pm

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Mumio said:

PennyPurple said:

lol There is just no stopping it.....




Apparently, we either have Fly version 2: Susannah or someone who is a major ST (stalker) fAN (fan). Yep, a stan. And some of them are completely sold on their own ideas of Prince and who was important to him. Here's a newsflash: they were ALL important to him....and conversely, NONE of them were important enough for a lasting committment. nod lol lol

And that is the truth. nod

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Reply #196 posted 10/06/19 3:42pm

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Did you all hear about Larry?

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Reply #197 posted 10/06/19 3:45pm

violetcrush

^^^^ lol The herd is in full attack mode today biggrin Loving it!!!!
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Reply #198 posted 10/06/19 3:51pm

violetcrush

It’s no wonder this thread morphed into other discussions considering there are two active “Larry Graham” threads along with the umpteen Larry threads in the recent past.
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Reply #199 posted 10/06/19 3:51pm

Morgaine

PennyPurple said:

Did you all hear about Larry?



Yeah! Do you think he used his influence in ways that positively or negatively affected P? Both?
wink
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Reply #200 posted 10/06/19 3:59pm

violetcrush

Morgaine said:

PennyPurple said:

Did you all hear about Larry?



Yeah! Do you think he used his influence in ways that positively or negatively affected P? Both?
wink

Hey Morgaine! Here is your post #38 on this thread:
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“I do not know Larry, most P fams probably don't either so I don't dislike the man, however I do dislike some of his actions. Case in point is the performance of Baby Knows. Great song but what's off to me is LG, a supposedly devout JW singing the chorus. I am not a JW, though I am very good friends with two & have asked them whether singing lyrics like
She got the long dark legs
(Baby knows) She got the butt that go round
(Baby knows) This kind of poochie make you beg
(Baby knows) Turn a dog into a hound
Would be acceptable for a JW. I'll bet you all can guess they said NO.
So I don't know LG. All I know is P obviously respected his opinion & work & some of LGs actions are questionable to me.
As for the demise of P & Mayte's marriage, I would not blame it on LG though I do think, again, some of his actions were questionable in re their marriage. It does not appear that anyone tried to support them after the loss of their son. And yes, you can be that IN LOVE & not have it last. Upwards of 70% of couples that lose children divorce & they lost two. Imho a lack of communication is ultimately what caused their marriage to fail.
Most people are a mix of positive & negative traits which includes all of Ps associates - none of us can say exactly what P, LG, Mayte, Apples, etc etc were & are thinking & feeling.
I do believe that if they'd not lost a son, even if they hadn't stayed married, the relationship between P & Mayte would have continued & given him a foundation outside music. Which is sadder to me than their divorce, LG possibly manipulating P, etc.”
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So, enlighten me as to how Prince’s song “Baby Knows”, as well as, all of your rambling about Prince and Mayte’s relationship has anything to do with Prince and Larry Graham??
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My my the hypocrisy continues to be alive and well here on the Org biggrin
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Reply #201 posted 10/06/19 4:04pm

violetcrush

And here is “King Hypocrite” ChocoBox’s post #57 responding to TheTruth’s post about Prince’s relationships with various women:
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“Prince(r.i.p.)although he was obviously smitten with her NEVER took his relationship with Andy public.”
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biggrin razz lol
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Reply #202 posted 10/06/19 4:09pm

Morgaine

violetcrush said:

Morgaine said:



Yeah! Do you think he used his influence in ways that positively or negatively affected P? Both?
wink

Hey Morgaine! Here is your post #38 on this thread:
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“I do not know Larry, most P fams probably don't either so I don't dislike the man, however I do dislike some of his actions. Case in point is the performance of Baby Knows. Great song but what's off to me is LG, a supposedly devout JW singing the chorus. I am not a JW, though I am very good friends with two & have asked them whether singing lyrics like
She got the long dark legs
(Baby knows) She got the butt that go round
(Baby knows) This kind of poochie make you beg
(Baby knows) Turn a dog into a hound
Would be acceptable for a JW. I'll bet you all can guess they said NO.
So I don't know LG. All I know is P obviously respected his opinion & work & some of LGs actions are questionable to me.
As for the demise of P & Mayte's marriage, I would not blame it on LG though I do think, again, some of his actions were questionable in re their marriage. It does not appear that anyone tried to support them after the loss of their son. And yes, you can be that IN LOVE & not have it last. Upwards of 70% of couples that lose children divorce & they lost two. Imho a lack of communication is ultimately what caused their marriage to fail.
Most people are a mix of positive & negative traits which includes all of Ps associates - none of us can say exactly what P, LG, Mayte, Apples, etc etc were & are thinking & feeling.
I do believe that if they'd not lost a son, even if they hadn't stayed married, the relationship between P & Mayte would have continued & given him a foundation outside music. Which is sadder to me than their divorce, LG possibly manipulating P, etc.”
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So, enlighten me as to how Prince’s song “Baby Knows”, as well as, all of your rambling about Prince and Mayte’s relationship has anything to do with Prince and Larry Graham??
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My my the hypocrisy continues to be alive and well here on the Org biggrin


I know what I said. What's your point?

Several posts up I stated I wasn't commenting about your responses, *I* had veered off topic & thought creating a new thread to discuss how P's intimate relationships affected him (which I did) was a better idea than continuing to be off topic on this thread.

I responded to Penny to try to get the thread back to topic.

I've not called you names or been disrespectful to you in this thread. Did you want to bait me?
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Reply #203 posted 10/06/19 4:11pm

mELdOURADOsELV
AGEM

I'm not really paying attention but, are u guys saying that u caught a troll?

😂

Can someone please teach me how to set up a troll trap?

Just joking here, nobody attack me please. 😳


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Reply #204 posted 10/06/19 4:18pm

violetcrush

Morgaine said:

violetcrush said:


Hey Morgaine! Here is your post #38 on this thread:
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“I do not know Larry, most P fams probably don't either so I don't dislike the man, however I do dislike some of his actions. Case in point is the performance of Baby Knows. Great song but what's off to me is LG, a supposedly devout JW singing the chorus. I am not a JW, though I am very good friends with two & have asked them whether singing lyrics like
She got the long dark legs
(Baby knows) She got the butt that go round
(Baby knows) This kind of poochie make you beg
(Baby knows) Turn a dog into a hound
Would be acceptable for a JW. I'll bet you all can guess they said NO.
So I don't know LG. All I know is P obviously respected his opinion & work & some of LGs actions are questionable to me.
As for the demise of P & Mayte's marriage, I would not blame it on LG though I do think, again, some of his actions were questionable in re their marriage. It does not appear that anyone tried to support them after the loss of their son. And yes, you can be that IN LOVE & not have it last. Upwards of 70% of couples that lose children divorce & they lost two. Imho a lack of communication is ultimately what caused their marriage to fail.
Most people are a mix of positive & negative traits which includes all of Ps associates - none of us can say exactly what P, LG, Mayte, Apples, etc etc were & are thinking & feeling.
I do believe that if they'd not lost a son, even if they hadn't stayed married, the relationship between P & Mayte would have continued & given him a foundation outside music. Which is sadder to me than their divorce, LG possibly manipulating P, etc.”
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So, enlighten me as to how Prince’s song “Baby Knows”, as well as, all of your rambling about Prince and Mayte’s relationship has anything to do with Prince and Larry Graham??
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My my the hypocrisy continues to be alive and well here on the Org biggrin


I know what I said. What's your point?

Several posts up I stated I wasn't commenting about your responses, *I* had veered off topic & thought creating a new thread to discuss how P's intimate relationships affected him (which I did) was a better idea than continuing to be off topic on this thread.

I responded to Penny to try to get the thread back to topic.

I've not called you names or been disrespectful to you in this thread. Did you want to bait me?

Actually, your post to PennyP with a “wink” was clearly a bait to me, and I responded accordingly to confirm that I am far from the only one here who discussed the relationships with women. When I am accused/attacked I will call out others as necessary.
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Reply #205 posted 10/06/19 4:19pm

Morgaine

violetcrush said:

Morgaine said:



Yeah! Do you think he used his influence in ways that positively or negatively affected P? Both?
wink

Hey Morgaine! Here is your post #38 on this thread:
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“I do not know Larry, most P fams probably don't either so I don't dislike the man, however I do dislike some of his actions. Case in point is the performance of Baby Knows. Great song but what's off to me is LG, a supposedly devout JW singing the chorus. I am not a JW, though I am very good friends with two & have asked them whether singing lyrics like
She got the long dark legs
(Baby knows) She got the butt that go round
(Baby knows) This kind of poochie make you beg
(Baby knows) Turn a dog into a hound
Would be acceptable for a JW. I'll bet you all can guess they said NO.
So I don't know LG. All I know is P obviously respected his opinion & work & some of LGs actions are questionable to me.
As for the demise of P & Mayte's marriage, I would not blame it on LG though I do think, again, some of his actions were questionable in re their marriage. It does not appear that anyone tried to support them after the loss of their son. And yes, you can be that IN LOVE & not have it last. Upwards of 70% of couples that lose children divorce & they lost two. Imho a lack of communication is ultimately what caused their marriage to fail.
Most people are a mix of positive & negative traits which includes all of Ps associates - none of us can say exactly what P, LG, Mayte, Apples, etc etc were & are thinking & feeling.
I do believe that if they'd not lost a son, even if they hadn't stayed married, the relationship between P & Mayte would have continued & given him a foundation outside music. Which is sadder to me than their divorce, LG possibly manipulating P, etc.”
*
So, enlighten me as to how Prince’s song “Baby Knows”, as well as, all of your rambling about Prince and Mayte’s relationship has anything to do with Prince and Larry Graham??
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My my the hypocrisy continues to be alive and well here on the Org biggrin


Enlighten you? Wth is your issue?

I stated imho a JW, in this case, LG, singing the lyrics to Baby Knows is NOT JW behavior & that it was my seeing this that caused me to have questions as to LGs intentions & sincerity in helping P. I asked what others thought.

And you know why their marriage has something to do with Ps relationship with LG - you yourself stated on another thread that you believed part of the reason they divorced was due to P becoming a JW & Mayte not wanting to as well as LG influencing P into becoming a JW.

So go right ahead & sling away. Everything I've stated is my opinion just like you.
It's not a f*cking contest, it's just a discussion.
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Reply #206 posted 10/06/19 4:23pm

Morgaine

violetcrush said:

Morgaine said:



I know what I said. What's your point?

Several posts up I stated I wasn't commenting about your responses, *I* had veered off topic & thought creating a new thread to discuss how P's intimate relationships affected him (which I did) was a better idea than continuing to be off topic on this thread.

I responded to Penny to try to get the thread back to topic.

I've not called you names or been disrespectful to you in this thread. Did you want to bait me?

Actually, your post to PennyP with a “wink” was clearly a bait to me, and I responded accordingly to confirm that I am far from the only one here who discussed the relationships with women. When I am accused/attacked I will call out others as necessary.


You sure assume a lot. The wink was to get back on topic & nothing more.

If I'd wanted to bait you, trash you, etc I'd do it right out in the open. I'm not shy that way.
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Reply #207 posted 10/06/19 4:32pm

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Morgaine said:

PennyPurple said:

Did you all hear about Larry?

Yeah! Do you think he used his influence in ways that positively or negatively affected P? Both? wink

He took advantage of a vunerable Prince. It has been said that Prince gave him $1 million dollars to have until Larry was ready to build a house...I don't think Larry ever built that house.


I think that Prince was used by Larry to make Larry's life easier and to bring $$ into the JW.

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Reply #208 posted 10/06/19 4:36pm

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PennyPurple said:



Morgaine said:


PennyPurple said:

Did you all hear about Larry?



Yeah! Do you think he used his influence in ways that positively or negatively affected P? Both? wink

He took advantage of a vunerable Prince. It has been said that Prince gave him $1 million dollars to have until Larry was ready to build a house...I don't think Larry ever built that house.



I think that Prince was used by Larry to make Larry's life easier and to bring $$ into the JW.


As sad as it might be to some, but I also believe that this is the truth about LG. sad
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Reply #209 posted 10/06/19 4:36pm

violetcrush

Morgaine said:

violetcrush said:


Actually, your post to PennyP with a “wink” was clearly a bait to me, and I responded accordingly to confirm that I am far from the only one here who discussed the relationships with women. When I am accused/attacked I will call out others as necessary.


You sure assume a lot. The wink was to get back on topic & nothing more.

If I'd wanted to bait you, trash you, etc I'd do it right out in the open. I'm not shy that way.

Aw come on! At least be honest about it. Your “wink” response to PennyP came immediately after her explicit baiting with the rest of the herd. All of this, as per usual, is Jr High level behavior. Very typical with these chicks, but I did not peg you to be part of that group.
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You were discussing the relationships with the women with TheTruth123 before I even joined the mix. Look at post #64.
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Either way, this is exactly how meanings get misconstrued. Nothing good comes out of baiting, bullying, immature and obnoxious behavior - and I don’t mean you, but yours was hard to decipher as it was attached to that mess.
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