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These chicks like to pop up out of nowhere which seems to indicate they are following my posts. It’s okay though. Does not phase me one bit 
Yep, Larry saw an opening and he took it. | |
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ThatWhiteDude said: PennyPurple said:
He took advantage of a vunerable Prince. It has been said that Prince gave him $1 million dollars to have until Larry was ready to build a house...I don't think Larry ever built that house.
As sad as it might be to some, but I also believe that this is the truth about LG.  But didn’t Larry uproot his life and relocate to NN at Prince’s request? I’m not saying he did not influence Prince, but clearly Prince wanted him there. I believe he moved there not long after they met. | |
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Larry saw a free ride. | |
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Prince also invited both Larry and Chaka Kahn to record their records at PP. They were both idols of his. I think he would have had Larry in the mix regardless of the JW piece. One could also argue that Prince was using them, as I’m sure he received a cut of their record sales - I don’t think he was, but promoting them also brought attention to what he was doing. He was marketing and promoting all three records together. | |
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PennyPurple said:
Larry saw a free ride. Why are you constantly so negative about every single person who loved and/or worked with Prince?? Can you name just one associate/friend/girlfriend that you DON’T think used him in some way or was “out to get him”?? | |
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Larry saw a free ride and he took it. Why does it bother you so much that my opinion doesn't jive with your pack of lies? You always, always try to change the narrative.always.
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PennyPurple said:
Larry saw a free ride and he took it. Why does it bother you so much that my opinion doesn't jive with your pack of lies? You always, always try to change the narrative.always.
Nice try at deflecting and blatantly exaggerating here!! You are welcome to search out my posting history which will confirm that I have commented on most of the people in Prince’s camp through the years, and am actually interested in other things involved in his music and career. * Unlike you, my sole mission here is not just to bash his associates. * So, you still did not answer my question?? Can you name one?? [Edited 10/6/19 17:06pm] | |
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That's all you do is bash everyone but Susannah.
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PennyPurple said:
He took advantage of a vunerable Prince. It has been said that Prince gave him $1 million dollars to have until Larry was ready to build a house...I don't think Larry ever built that house.
Yes I agree. So then what does that say about LGs intentions? I don't know how else to look at it than he used him. Which is so sad to me as he really seemed to admire LG. Imho using God/religion as a way to make money is abhorrent. I don't want to think that's what happened, but at this point, it sure looks that way. The kind of love that takes over your body, mind, & soul | |
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violetcrush said: Morgaine said: You sure assume a lot. The wink was to get back on topic & nothing more. If I'd wanted to bait you, trash you, etc I'd do it right out in the open. I'm not shy that way. Aw come on! At least be honest about it. Your “wink” response to PennyP came immediately after her explicit baiting with the rest of the herd. All of this, as per usual, is Jr High level behavior. Very typical with these chicks, but I did not peg you to be part of that group. * You were discussing the relationships with the women with TheTruth123 before I even joined the mix. Look at post #64. * Either way, this is exactly how meanings get misconstrued. Nothing good comes out of baiting, bullying, immature and obnoxious behavior - and I don’t mean you, but yours was hard to decipher as it was attached to that mess. Omg. Think what you want, it makes no difference to me. I am fully aware of what I do & don't do & don't need you or anyone else to validate my actions, beliefs, feelings, or thoughts. The wink was as I stated. If you want to believe otherwise, feel free. I did not bait, bully, intimidate, demean or state anything obnoxiously. I know what I said & why. I'm not a part of any 'mix' here; I don't post often enough as I'm too busy most days. You seem to be insinuating I blamed you for detailing the topic when I've done no such thing. I know I took part on posting off topic, which is why I created another thread & took responsibility for going off topic in previous posts. You want to read something into what I've said, go ahead, I have no control over that. If you took the time to check my previous posts here, you'd see that is not something I do. I'm grown & don't play that. Imho it's a waste of time & energy I'd rather spend on something more meaningful. [Edited 10/6/19 17:44pm] The kind of love that takes over your body, mind, & soul | |
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PennyPurple said:
That's all you do is bash everyone but Susannah.
I have no doubt that people tried to reach out to Kirk and others in his circle too. So, because Larry did not want to get involved and/or wanted to respect his friend’s privacy - which he knew was of upmost importance to him - he’s to blame??I have no doubt there were many who knew something was not right. Prince was also not spending much time with Larry during his last couple of years. * There are many who are reluctant to speak to the police. It’s a normal reaction. Obviously, Larry was not charged with any crime, and he was not responsible for Prince’s death. Prince was taking the pills and Larry was not involved. * Do you realize how many people overdose on Opioids without their family or friends knowing how badly they are addicted and/or not being able to help them in time?? Happens every single day. | |
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violetcrush said: ThatWhiteDude said: As sad as it might be to some, but I also believe that this is the truth about LG. But didn’t Larry uproot his life and relocate to NN at Prince’s request? I’m not saying he did not influence Prince, but clearly Prince wanted him there. I believe he moved there not long after they met. What life did he uproot? LG, his wife & child moved into a home on the same property as Mayte & P. Mayte states in her book P did not charge LG rent. I believe P wanted LG closer to continue their spiritual talks & for LG to mentor him in that way, looking to LG as a father figure. So then the question becomes, if P had not been so vulnerable/looking for answers for his grief, would LG still have been able to do what he did? The kind of love that takes over your body, mind, & soul | |
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Morgaine said: violetcrush said: But didn’t Larry uproot his life and relocate to NN at Prince’s request? I’m not saying he did not influence Prince, but clearly Prince wanted him there. I believe he moved there not long after they met. What life did he uproot? LG, his wife & child moved into a home on the same property as Mayte & P. Mayte states in her book P did not charge LG rent. I believe P wanted LG closer to continue their spiritual talks & for LG to mentor him in that way, looking to LG as a father figure. So then the question becomes, if P had not been so vulnerable/looking for answers for his grief, would LG still have been able to do what he did? Larry was living nowhere near MN. He moved there, because Prince specifically asked him to relocate. He may have done that anyway, because Prince also wanted Larry to work and perform with him. Prince ALWAYS paid for his associates accommodations when they were part of his camp. * I am not saying that the JW influence was good for Prince - at least in terms of his music and performing. However, it clearly helped him to work through grief and/or whatever else he was going through during that time. Larry did not force Prince into the JW. Prince listened, questioned, and then made up his own mind about it. Did I like how religious he became? Heck no, but Larry is not singlehandedly to blame. | |
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I think Sly and LG were musicians that Prince looked up to. I think he would have been happy to play with LG frequently but moving him to Minnesota was a bit extreme and showed to me how Prince needed some emotional/spiritual anchoring. I really feel most of his need stemmed from his parental abandonment years earlier. He seemed to not only be grieving but may have felt God was punishing him for his former lifestyle. His world-view seemed shaken as well.
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violetcrush said: Morgaine said: What life did he uproot? LG, his wife & child moved into a home on the same property as Mayte & P. Mayte states in her book P did not charge LG rent. I believe P wanted LG closer to continue their spiritual talks & for LG to mentor him in that way, looking to LG as a father figure. So then the question becomes, if P had not been so vulnerable/looking for answers for his grief, would LG still have been able to do what he did? Larry was living nowhere near MN. He moved there, because Prince specifically asked him to relocate. He may have done that anyway, because Prince also wanted Larry to work and perform with him. Prince ALWAYS paid for his associates accommodations when they were part of his camp. * I am not saying that the JW influence was good for Prince - at least in terms of his music and performing. However, it clearly helped him to work through grief and/or whatever else he was going through during that time. Larry did not force Prince into the JW. Prince listened, questioned, and then made up his own mind about it. Did I like how religious he became? Heck no, but Larry is not singlehandedly to blame. I believe Larry took advantage of Prince when he was searching for answers to his son's death. It's been said more than once that P got the idea that his son's death was due to Ps "sins." Larry may have had good intentions at first but I do not think being a JW helped Prince; I think it hurt him. I do not blame Larry solely: he just happened to be there & imho took advantage of Prince. There is no way any JW would think it's ok to sing lyrics like those in Baby Knows. And that kind of says it all to me. The kind of love that takes over your body, mind, & soul | |
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PeggyO said:
I think Sly and LG were musicians that Prince looked up to. I think he would have been happy to play with LG frequently but moving him to Minnesota was a bit extreme and showed to me how Prince needed some emotional/spiritual anchoring. I really feel most of his need stemmed from his parental abandonment years earlier. He seemed to not only be grieving but may have felt God was punishing him for his former lifestyle. His world-view seemed shaken as well.
It’s possible, but all of Prince’s band members were in MN most of the time while they were part of his camp. Wendy had stated she and Lisa were about to buy a house and relocate to MN prior to Prince disbanding The Revolution. | |
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violetcrush said: PeggyO said:
I think Sly and LG were musicians that Prince looked up to. I think he would have been happy to play with LG frequently but moving him to Minnesota was a bit extreme and showed to me how Prince needed some emotional/spiritual anchoring. I really feel most of his need stemmed from his parental abandonment years earlier. He seemed to not only be grieving but may have felt God was punishing him for his former lifestyle. His world-view seemed shaken as well.
It’s possible, but all of Prince’s band members were in MN most of the time while they were part of his camp. Wendy had stated she and Lisa were about to buy a house and relocate to MN prior to Prince disbanding The Revolution. I agree, Peggy. I think Larry was a father figure for him at a time when he was really looking for answers & stability. It's beyond sad to me that P seems to have blamed himself for Amir's death. That was LG's influence & beliefs, not Prince's. And yes, violet, he did bring everyone to MN & probably wanted to work with him anyway. I just think without LG's religious influence, the situation & possibly even Prince's worsening issues with pain, could have been vastly different. The kind of love that takes over your body, mind, & soul | |
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Morgaine said: violetcrush said: Larry was living nowhere near MN. He moved there, because Prince specifically asked him to relocate. He may have done that anyway, because Prince also wanted Larry to work and perform with him. Prince ALWAYS paid for his associates accommodations when they were part of his camp. * I am not saying that the JW influence was good for Prince - at least in terms of his music and performing. However, it clearly helped him to work through grief and/or whatever else he was going through during that time. Larry did not force Prince into the JW. Prince listened, questioned, and then made up his own mind about it. Did I like how religious he became? Heck no, but Larry is not singlehandedly to blame. I believe Larry took advantage of Prince when he was searching for answers to his son's death. It's been said more than once that P got the idea that his son's death was due to Ps "sins." Larry may have had good intentions at first but I do not think being a JW helped Prince; I think it hurt him. I do not blame Larry solely: he just happened to be there & imho took advantage of Prince. There is no way any JW would think it's ok to sing lyrics like those in Baby Knows. And that kind of says it all to me. Larry has strong convictions about his faith. Prince asked him questions about it when they first met. I do not think Larry intentionally took advantage of Prince. Anyone who is strong in their particular faith is going to be happy to talk about it and how much they believe in it. * Saying that Prince felt that God took his Son because if his former “sins” is complete speculation and fan-based theory. And if you know anything about the Christian faith you know that God is not written as vengeful that way. | |
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But this thread isn't about Kirk or others, it's about Larry Graham. | |
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Let's face the facts, P was supporting Larry and his family for over a decade.
If you recall, M2 went to Larry, and Larry asked her if she was a physician. [Edited 10/6/19 20:33pm] | |
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PennyPurple said:
But this thread isn't about Kirk or others, it's about Larry Graham. Doesn’t matter. Kirk was a better friend and much closer to Prince at the end. It is absolutely relevant to this discussion. All in Prince’s camp walked on egg shells with regard to his privacy. Remember, he had been surrounding himself with “yes” men and women for a long long time. So, Prince was on his own, and that was due to the choices he made. | |
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Kirk is not revelent to the discussion about Larry Graham. This is about Larry Graham and Prince.
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Let's face the facts, P was supporting Larry and his family for over a decade.
If you recall, M2 went to Larry, and Larry asked her if she was a physician. [Edited 10/6/19 20:33pm] Larry obviously did not want to get involved. I’m not saying that was the right decision, however, he is not responsible for Prince’s death. When you make it clear that you don’t want people getting into your personal business and go to great lengths to hide it, as Prince did, you end up on your own. * What Prince did with his money, and how he supported his friends or family was his business. Larry also worked with him for many years. Prince helped to support many associates through the years - paying for funeral expenses, medical bills, etc. I’m sure there is much more that we don’t know. | |
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Don't try to deflect your Susannah obsession with my comment. U are the one squeezing her in EVERY associate,lover,thread topic U can find. "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when  was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." | |
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
Let's face the facts, P was supporting Larry and his family for over a decade.
If you recall, M2 went to Larry, and Larry asked her if she was a physician. [Edited 10/6/19 20:33pm]  | |
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violetcrush said: PennyPurple said:
But this thread isn't about Kirk or others, it's about Larry Graham. Doesn’t matter. Kirk was a better friend and much closer to Prince at the end. It is absolutely relevant to this discussion. All in Prince’s camp walked on egg shells with regard to his privacy. Remember, he had been surrounding himself with “yes” men and women for a long long time. So, Prince was on his own, and that was due to the choices he made. Kirk, a better friend than Larry? Did you read the files of the investigation? | |
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ThatWhiteDude said: violetcrush said: Doesn’t matter. Kirk was a better friend and much closer to Prince at the end. It is absolutely relevant to this discussion. All in Prince’s camp walked on egg shells with regard to his privacy. Remember, he had been surrounding himself with “yes” men and women for a long long time. So, Prince was on his own, and that was due to the choices he made. Kirk, a better friend than Larry? Did you read the files of the investigation? What I meant was, Kirk was WITH Prince on a daily basis during the time he was not doing well - not Larry. Obviously, Prince perceived him as a good friend whether he really was or not. My response was to others who are stating that Larry is to blame for Prince’s OD, or that he should have intervened. Prince was keeping everyone at much more than an “arm’s length” away by the time he died. | |
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violetcrush said: ThatWhiteDude said: Kirk, a better friend than Larry? Did you read the files of the investigation? What I meant was, Kirk was WITH Prince on a daily basis during the time he was not doing well - not Larry. Obviously, Prince perceived him as a good friend whether he really was or not. My response was to others who are stating that Larry is to blame for Prince’s OD, or that he should have intervened. Prince was keeping everyone at much more than an “arm’s length” away by the time he died. No one blamed LG for Prince's OD. But all the people mentioned in the files know more than they let people know. And Larry is one of them, they all act like they loved him so much, but don't come out with the truth of what really went down. | |
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