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Reply #30 posted 09/26/19 4:25pm

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My Graham was the nicest person. But when I met him, I pretend I didn't know him because I didn't want him to think I was a fan or starstruck. He did the WT at his KH. Although I couldn't hear him singing because I was in back of him :-?

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So true. Don't understand why some people he cut out of his life seemingly for good, get all the praise and love where the folks he was still close with throughout his life and up until the end get the most hate. smh

Because the people he cut out now have the most to say and are the main ones trying to capitalize off of his passing. Some fans feel special when these former associates give them access. It is no coincidence that his close circle of friends that he had before his passing generally have been quiet.

Like who? Kirk?

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I wonder if Prince's fans feel that Larry was too influential in Prince's life when Prince was vulnerable after the death of his baby. LG's influence/JW may have had a de-stablizing effect on his marriage to Mayte during this time.


I think it's entirely possible that Larry saved Prince's life.

Maybe, I wonder what Prince we would have seen if Larry did not introduce the JW to Prince.
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If Prince had to go into seclusion for a while, it rock bottom so to speak...

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As interesting as Prince's Princeology and religious mix could be at times, it also came across as more arrogant at times. To apologetic for his past at times.

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Larry Graham is awesome and is a legend musically , but I don't think people really hate on Larry Graham but on his JW influence and his blind following of it that rubbed off to much on Prince.
It was his mothers dying wish for Prince to be saved JW style and in came Larry I guess.

I thought she wanted him to go into 7th Day Adventists?

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Neither were you. Apparently if he and Mayte's marriage was "so strong and meant to be" like some of you all still want to believe, then they wouldve worked through it TOGETHER without him having to turn to Larry and the JW for comfort and guidance. This is what couples who are serious about their vows and their commitment to each other do, you know "for better or worse". Losing a child couldn't be no worse. Besides he looked extremely miserable to me for the majority of that marriage anyway. Appears he wanted to act like that marriage never happened in the first place.

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People who have worked with Prince and also associates have said he never seemed happier and more content with any other women than with Mayte. Besides he barely cracked a smile it was his persona he tried to cultivate. Prince faith was so strong that losing his children broke him. He questioned his faith and his relationship with the higher power.

I'm not a Mayte or Mani fan or hater.
But the interviews Prince gave during the 1997-1998 were the most open, most accepting of his career, people from the 80s talking about music unreleased even, talked soooo much about intricate aspects of music Outside of 1985-1986 1997-1998 gave the 2nd best Prince interviews.

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Reply #35 posted 09/27/19 6:30am

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1998-1999... weird/interesting time in Prince's history. I've been re-visiting some of the live shows from these years and can't help feeling Prince was scrambling around looking for something new musically and personally. He really pushed others ahead of him (Larry, Chaka, NPG). I don't think it's a coincedence that he changed his name back to Prince in 2000. It was like a new start (same as on 07/06/93).

I saw Larry live with Prince twice: Wembley '98 and Hop Farm in '11. I have nothing but respect for him as an artist and as a friend of Prince's. I just associate 98-99 as a sad time as Prince and Mayte separated (even though he tried to hide it from the public) and it was an end of an era. I kind of lost interest 99-01 but he won me back with The Rainbow Children.

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1998-1999... weird/interesting time in Prince's history. I've been re-visiting some of the live shows from these years and can't help feeling Prince was scrambling around looking for something new musically and personally. He really pushed others ahead of him (Larry, Chaka, NPG). I don't think it's a coincedence that he changed his name back to Prince in 2000. It was like a new start (same as on 07/06/93).

I saw Larry live with Prince twice: Wembley '98 and Hop Farm in '11. I have nothing but respect for him as an artist and as a friend of Prince's. I just associate 98-99 as a sad time as Prince and Mayte separated (even though he tried to hide it from the public) and it was an end of an era. I kind of lost interest 99-01 but he won me back with The Rainbow Children.

U have to learn to seperate the artist from the person.

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rlittler81 said:

1998-1999... weird/interesting time in Prince's history. I've been re-visiting some of the live shows from these years and can't help feeling Prince was scrambling around looking for something new musically and personally. He really pushed others ahead of him (Larry, Chaka, NPG). I don't think it's a coincedence that he changed his name back to Prince in 2000. It was like a new start (same as on 07/06/93).

I saw Larry live with Prince twice: Wembley '98 and Hop Farm in '11. I have nothing but respect for him as an artist and as a friend of Prince's. I just associate 98-99 as a sad time as Prince and Mayte separated (even though he tried to hide it from the public) and it was an end of an era. I kind of lost interest 99-01 but he won me back with The Rainbow Children.

U have to learn to seperate the artist from the person.

What did rlttler81 say that promted your reply?

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To be honest, I think Prince the Artist was authentically the artist and the person

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How do we seperate artists/person. If he was an 'actor-artist' that would be different. As in seperating the tv/movie role from the person playing it. But most other artists -musicians/visual artists tend to be who they are. Great art only comes from an authentic source. Not role players.

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Like the people, some here, who tried to say, Prince's ambiguity and gender blending etc was all an act. of course on stage you take something to a different expression, but from the beginning to the end it was Prince.

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Yes there are some aspects I strongly believe Prince was 'trying on' like the 1990s more harder image. There are some pieces that is acting. But for example the expression he gave us in UTCM was authentic Prince just as the expression in Purple Rain.

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Reply #38 posted 09/27/19 8:18am

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I don´t think that people here really "hate" Larry. Most of them probably used to be fans of Larry before the late 90s and early 00s. I was never really a fan because I was too young to appreciate him in his prime years but Prince´s cover versions around 1993-95 such as The Jam, Hair and I Believe in You got me interested in Larry´s music so I bought some of his older albums and his GCS 2000 album but I think fans just had a problem with Prince playing the same old cover versions again and again and again for more than a decade, hence why many got a bit fed up, and they didn´t like him as part of the NPG which I think had very little to do with Larry´s legendary bass skills but more to do with his stage persona and how it clashed with the way Prince used to be before he met Larry.


As far as the JWs are concerned, you are right that Prince was a grown man who made his own decisions but for some reason many things, including lyrics and behavior, changed when Larry became part of Prince´s camp, and we´ve had a gazillion threads and discussions here where fans outlined why they disliked Larry, and many didn´t hate him at all but just wished his influence wasn´t as big as it obviously was.


Personally, I am a bit undecided because as much as I understand some fans´ criticism, I think we will never know what might have happened to Prince if he had not met Larry in the late 90s. Maybe things would have been different, maybe better, but maybe even worse.


To me, he always came across as someone who Prince could rely on, someone who was there for him when he was no longer part of the mainstream media and charts.




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He is one of the greatest bass players in the world, a legend on his own, one of the nicest people in the world and always treading his fans the best.



There are people here who hates LG. How can you hate somebody?




I do not know Larry, most P fams probably don't either so I don't dislike the man, however I do dislike some of his actions. Case in point is the performance of Baby Knows. Great song but what's off to me is LG, a supposedly devout JW singing the chorus. I am not a JW, though I am very good friends with two & have asked them whether singing lyrics like
She got the long dark legs
(Baby knows) She got the butt that go round
(Baby knows) This kind of poochie make you beg
(Baby knows) Turn a dog into a hound
Would be acceptable for a JW. I'll bet you all can guess they said NO.
So I don't know LG. All I know is P obviously respected his opinion & work & some of LGs actions are questionable to me.
As for the demise of P & Mayte's marriage, I would not blame it on LG though I do think, again, some of his actions were questionable in re their marriage. It does not appear that anyone tried to support them after the loss of their son. And yes, you can be that IN LOVE & not have it last. Upwards of 70% of couples that lose children divorce & they lost two. Imho a lack of communication is ultimately what caused their marriage to fail.
Most people are a mix of positive & negative traits which includes all of Ps associates - none of us can say exactly what P, LG, Mayte, Apples, etc etc were & are thinking & feeling.
I do believe that if they'd not lost a son, even if they hadn't stayed married, the relationship between P & Mayte would have continued & given him a foundation outside music. Which is sadder to me than their divorce, LG possibly manipulating P, etc.
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I don´t think that people here really "hate" Larry. Most of them probably used to be fans of Larry before the late 90s and early 00s. I was never really a fan because I was too young to appreciate him in his prime years but Prince´s cover versions around 1993-95 such as The Jam, Hair and I Believe in You got me interested in Larry´s music so I bought some of his older albums and his GCS 2000 album but I think fans just had a problem with Prince playing the same old cover versions again and again and again for more than a decade, hence why many got a bit fed up, and they didn´t like him as part of the NPG which I think had very little to do with Larry´s legendary bass skills but more to do with his stage persona and how it clashed with the way Prince used to be before he met Larry.

As far as the JWs are concerned, you are right that Prince was a grown man who made his own decisions but for some reason many things, including lyrics and behavior, changed when Larry became part of Prince´s camp, and we´ve had a gazillion threads and discussions here where fans outlined why they disliked Larry, and many didn´t hate him at all but just wished his influence wasn´t as big as it obviously was.

Personally, I am a bit undecided because as much as I understand some fans´ criticism, I think we will never know what might have happened to Prince if he had not met Larry in the late 90s. Maybe things would have been different, maybe better, but maybe even worse.

To me, he always came across as someone who Prince could rely on, someone who was there for him when he was no longer part of the mainstream media and charts.

I do not know Larry, most P fams probably don't either so I don't dislike the man, however I do dislike some of his actions. Case in point is the performance of Baby Knows. Great song but what's off to me is LG, a supposedly devout JW singing the chorus. I am not a JW, though I am very good friends with two & have asked them whether singing lyrics like She got the long dark legs (Baby knows) She got the butt that go round (Baby knows) This kind of poochie make you beg (Baby knows) Turn a dog into a hound Would be acceptable for a JW. I'll bet you all can guess they said NO. So I don't know LG. All I know is P obviously respected his opinion & work & some of LGs actions are questionable to me. As for the demise of P & Mayte's marriage, I would not blame it on LG though I do think, again, some of his actions were questionable in re their marriage. It does not appear that anyone tried to support them after the loss of their son. And yes, you can be that IN LOVE & not have it last. Upwards of 70% of couples that lose children divorce & they lost two. Imho a lack of communication is ultimately what caused their marriage to fail. Most people are a mix of positive & negative traits which includes all of Ps associates - none of us can say exactly what P, LG, Mayte, Apples, etc etc were & are thinking & feeling. I do believe that if they'd not lost a son, even if they hadn't stayed married, the relationship between P & Mayte would have continued & given him a foundation outside music. Which is sadder to me than their divorce, LG possibly manipulating P, etc.

I think the same thing.

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If Larry was such a good friend of P's why did he lie to the police?

Everyone is always talking about Kirk not being truthful but give Larry a pass.

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I remember they had a 'public' falling out maybe around 2012/2013. I'll try to find the link, it was posted on the Org

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If Larry was such a good friend of P's why did he lie to the police?

Everyone is always talking about Kirk not being truthful but give Larry a pass.

And tried to hide from them, when they went to his house. lol

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I remember they had a 'public' falling out maybe around 2012/2013. I'll try to find the link, it was posted on the Org

Now, that's interesting...

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Reply #44 posted 09/30/19 12:04am

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Larry Graham is awesome and is a legend musically , but I don't think people really hate on Larry Graham but on his JW influence and his blind following of it that rubbed off to much on Prince.
It was his mothers dying wish for Prince to be saved JW style and in came Larry I guess.

I thought she wanted him to go into 7th Day Adventists?


That's what he always was and raised as.
Apparently on het deathbed she wanted Prince to repent and convert to JW.

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If Larry was such a good friend of P's why did he lie to the police?



Everyone is always talking about Kirk not being truthful but give Larry a pass.



How did Larry lied to the police – specifically? What exactly did he say that was a lie?
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People who have worked with Prince and also associates have said he never seemed happier and more content with any other women than with Mayte. Besides he barely cracked a smile it was his persona he tried to cultivate. Prince faith was so strong that losing his children broke him. He questioned his faith and his relationship with the higher power.

(He was always smiling more in other pics than he was with her, based on many ones I have seen. With M2 he smiled more.) Yet he and Mayte STILL divorced so if he was supposedly "SO" happy with her, then why did they break up? Some people keep bringing up "oh he just LOVED her SO Much" nonsense over and over! Ugh, give it a rest already! And NOPE, losing their child should not be an excuse for them to end a marriage. I understand she was young and thrown into his world and suffered trauma also but I am saying if people are supposedly "SO IN LOVE" then they should find a way to work it out IMO. I am not trying in any way to be rude towards you it is just that some folks wanna hang on to their marriage as if it was some sort of fairy tale that was so meant to be. Of course people around them during that time will say that lovey dovey stuff because maybe they like Mayte the best, their opinion of course, but apparently it was not meant to be in the end. Why can't some people just accept that and move on? He sure did!! At the end of the day I am here for Prince and not Mayte. BTW however, I don't wish her any ill will. I am just basing my thoughts on how things ended. So if he found a sense of comfort and guidance confiding in Larry Graham than so be it.

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[Edited 8/29/19 15:31pm]

GOOD MORNING AMERICA (1998)

The Artist sat for a short interview with Kevin Newman on ABC-TV's Good Morning America morning news/talk show on July 1 (postponed from June 30) to promote the release of his new album, Newpower Soul.

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0{+> : So many different things happen 2 u when u finally connect with your soul mate. U eat better . . .

Kevin: She cooks meals?

0{+> : Oh, yeah. U sleep more, u want 2 stay in the house a little more. I don't record as much as I used 2. Crystal Ball was just released, that's all old material, it's a 5-record set that's available through a 1-800 line, 1-800-NEW-FUNK, and you can also pick it up, a four-CD set, in local stores.

Kevin: Alright. But you know you're quite romantic and I think that might surprise people who were familiar with your early music. I mean you're almost reverential, in fact I think you are reverential towards women. You have a line in "The One": "If U're looking' 4 a man who will make U feel like time has just begun/A man that'll make U feel like U're the only thing that ever mattered underneath the sun/I'm the one." Is that the way you feel about women now? In some ways you put "the one" on a pedestal.

0{+> : "The One" video is very special 2 Mayte and I. We tried 2 go back 2 the notion of The Garden of Eden, when there was one idea, instead of having ten women and thinking that that is equivalent to wealth, we wanted 2 just focus on the one idea and see if that would bring us our personal heaven. She did a wonderful job with the video. I'm so proud I finally found a director that I don't have 2 scream at.

Kevin: Can she direct you? I would think it would be hard to work with your wife.

0{+> : No, no, no -- I completely trust her. She edits with "the one" in mind. "The one" being the choreography, the music, she makes her edits and all her shot selection based upon what it is she's trying 2 convey. That's what the song is about, it's about respecting "the one" idea, whatever that genesis is, so that u reach your revelation.

Kevin: You said a minute ago that you've been writing a little bit less because of more time obviously for your family life and for romance. Has that been hard for Mayte or either yourself to sort of figure out because you're somebody who's had a creative surge in your life and to share that surge and to find a place for the love in your heart with that music, has that been an interesting process to come together?

0{+> : She represents music 2 me. She's a dancer by trade and she's inspired so much of my work. The whole second side of Emancipation is dedicated 2 her.

Kevin: She brings the color to your life?

0{+> : Yeah, she brings the glint in my eye, so 2 speak.

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Missmusicluver72 said:




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People who have worked with Prince and also associates have said he never seemed happier and more content with any other women than with Mayte. Besides he barely cracked a smile it was his persona he tried to cultivate. Prince faith was so strong that losing his children broke him. He questioned his faith and his relationship with the higher power.



(He was always smiling more in other pics than he was with her, based on many ones I have seen. With M2 he smiled more.) Yet he and Mayte STILL divorced so if he was supposedly "SO" happy with her, then why did they break up? Some people keep bringing up "oh he just LOVED her SO Much" nonsense over and over! Ugh, give it a rest already! And NOPE, losing their child should not be an excuse for them to end a marriage. I understand she was young and thrown into his world and suffered trauma also but I am saying if people are supposedly "SO IN LOVE" then they should find a way to work it out IMO. I am not trying in any way to be rude towards you it is just that some folks wanna hang on to their marriage as if it was some sort of fairy tale that was so meant to be. Of course people around them during that time will say that lovey dovey stuff because maybe they like Mayte the best, their opinion of course, but apparently it was not meant to be in the end. Why can't some people just accept that and move on? He sure did!! At the end of the day I am here for Prince and not Mayte. BTW however, I don't wish her any ill will. I am just basing my thoughts on how things ended. So if he found a sense of comfort and guidance confiding in Larry Graham than so be it.


[Edited 8/29/19 15:20pm]


[Edited 8/29/19 15:31pm]




GOOD MORNING AMERICA (1998)


The Artist sat for a short interview with Kevin Newman on ABC-TV's Good Morning America morning news/talk show on July 1 (postponed from June 30) to promote the release of his new album, Newpower Soul.


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0{+> : So many different things happen 2 u when u finally connect with your soul mate. U eat better . . .


Kevin: She cooks meals?


0{+> : Oh, yeah. U sleep more, u want 2 stay in the house a little more. I don't record as much as I used 2. Crystal Ball was just released, that's all old material, it's a 5-record set that's available through a 1-800 line, 1-800-NEW-FUNK, and you can also pick it up, a four-CD set, in local stores.


Kevin: Alright. But you know you're quite romantic and I think that might surprise people who were familiar with your early music. I mean you're almost reverential, in fact I think you are reverential towards women. You have a line in "The One": "If U're looking' 4 a man who will make U feel like time has just begun/A man that'll make U feel like U're the only thing that ever mattered underneath the sun/I'm the one." Is that the way you feel about women now? In some ways you put "the one" on a pedestal.


0{+> : "The One" video is very special 2 Mayte and I. We tried 2 go back 2 the notion of The Garden of Eden, when there was one idea, instead of having ten women and thinking that that is equivalent to wealth, we wanted 2 just focus on the one idea and see if that would bring us our personal heaven. She did a wonderful job with the video. I'm so proud I finally found a director that I don't have 2 scream at.


Kevin: Can she direct you? I would think it would be hard to work with your wife.


0{+> : No, no, no -- I completely trust her. She edits with "the one" in mind. "The one" being the choreography, the music, she makes her edits and all her shot selection based upon what it is she's trying 2 convey. That's what the song is about, it's about respecting "the one" idea, whatever that genesis is, so that u reach your revelation.


Kevin: You said a minute ago that you've been writing a little bit less because of more time obviously for your family life and for romance. Has that been hard for Mayte or either yourself to sort of figure out because you're somebody who's had a creative surge in your life and to share that surge and to find a place for the love in your heart with that music, has that been an interesting process to come together?


0{+> : She represents music 2 me. She's a dancer by trade and she's inspired so much of my work. The whole second side of Emancipation is dedicated 2 her.


Kevin: She brings the color to your life?


0{+> : Yeah, she brings the glint in my eye, so 2 speak.





Do you think it is possible that he felt this at at that time and then the same way about other people later on? Mani, Bria, Andy
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If Larry was such a good friend of P's why did he lie to the police?

Everyone is always talking about Kirk not being truthful but give Larry a pass.

How did Larry lied to the police – specifically? What exactly did he say that was a lie?



Read his interview by police in the investigative file.

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(He was always smiling more in other pics than he was with her, based on many ones I have seen. With M2 he smiled more.) Yet he and Mayte STILL divorced so if he was supposedly "SO" happy with her, then why did they break up? Some people keep bringing up "oh he just LOVED her SO Much" nonsense over and over! Ugh, give it a rest already! And NOPE, losing their child should not be an excuse for them to end a marriage. I understand she was young and thrown into his world and suffered trauma also but I am saying if people are supposedly "SO IN LOVE" then they should find a way to work it out IMO. I am not trying in any way to be rude towards you it is just that some folks wanna hang on to their marriage as if it was some sort of fairy tale that was so meant to be. Of course people around them during that time will say that lovey dovey stuff because maybe they like Mayte the best, their opinion of course, but apparently it was not meant to be in the end. Why can't some people just accept that and move on? He sure did!! At the end of the day I am here for Prince and not Mayte. BTW however, I don't wish her any ill will. I am just basing my thoughts on how things ended. So if he found a sense of comfort and guidance confiding in Larry Graham than so be it.

[Edited 8/29/19 15:20pm]

[Edited 8/29/19 15:31pm]

GOOD MORNING AMERICA (1998)

The Artist sat for a short interview with Kevin Newman on ABC-TV's Good Morning America morning news/talk show on July 1 (postponed from June 30) to promote the release of his new album, Newpower Soul.

.

0{+> : So many different things happen 2 u when u finally connect with your soul mate. U eat better . . .

Kevin: She cooks meals?

0{+> : Oh, yeah. U sleep more, u want 2 stay in the house a little more. I don't record as much as I used 2. Crystal Ball was just released, that's all old material, it's a 5-record set that's available through a 1-800 line, 1-800-NEW-FUNK, and you can also pick it up, a four-CD set, in local stores.

Kevin: Alright. But you know you're quite romantic and I think that might surprise people who were familiar with your early music. I mean you're almost reverential, in fact I think you are reverential towards women. You have a line in "The One": "If U're looking' 4 a man who will make U feel like time has just begun/A man that'll make U feel like U're the only thing that ever mattered underneath the sun/I'm the one." Is that the way you feel about women now? In some ways you put "the one" on a pedestal.

0{+> : "The One" video is very special 2 Mayte and I. We tried 2 go back 2 the notion of The Garden of Eden, when there was one idea, instead of having ten women and thinking that that is equivalent to wealth, we wanted 2 just focus on the one idea and see if that would bring us our personal heaven. She did a wonderful job with the video. I'm so proud I finally found a director that I don't have 2 scream at.

Kevin: Can she direct you? I would think it would be hard to work with your wife.

0{+> : No, no, no -- I completely trust her. She edits with "the one" in mind. "The one" being the choreography, the music, she makes her edits and all her shot selection based upon what it is she's trying 2 convey. That's what the song is about, it's about respecting "the one" idea, whatever that genesis is, so that u reach your revelation.

Kevin: You said a minute ago that you've been writing a little bit less because of more time obviously for your family life and for romance. Has that been hard for Mayte or either yourself to sort of figure out because you're somebody who's had a creative surge in your life and to share that surge and to find a place for the love in your heart with that music, has that been an interesting process to come together?

0{+> : She represents music 2 me. She's a dancer by trade and she's inspired so much of my work. The whole second side of Emancipation is dedicated 2 her.

Kevin: She brings the color to your life?

0{+> : Yeah, she brings the glint in my eye, so 2 speak.

The only problem I have with this interview is that we now know that during this time Prince and Mayte were having issues. Larry was in the mix, and I believe Manuela was also working closely with him at PP. Soon after, Mayte was moved to Spain, and Prince was spending most of his time in MN. I think this discussion is more tied to the fact that he had an album to promote, and he was being drilled about his relationship and the song.

*

The funniest part of this interview is when the host starts reciting Prince's lyrics back to him, and Prince pulls out a thin white cracker and starts eating it lol Poor guy...he clearly didn't get the memo that Prince would really not appreciate his lyrics being recited back to him by some stiff white dude biggrin

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OldFriends4Sale said:

GOOD MORNING AMERICA (1998)

The Artist sat for a short interview with Kevin Newman on ABC-TV's Good Morning America morning news/talk show on July 1 (postponed from June 30) to promote the release of his new album, Newpower Soul.

.

0{+> : So many different things happen 2 u when u finally connect with your soul mate. U eat better . . .

Kevin: She cooks meals?

0{+> : Oh, yeah. U sleep more, u want 2 stay in the house a little more. I don't record as much as I used 2. Crystal Ball was just released, that's all old material, it's a 5-record set that's available through a 1-800 line, 1-800-NEW-FUNK, and you can also pick it up, a four-CD set, in local stores.

Kevin: Alright. But you know you're quite romantic and I think that might surprise people who were familiar with your early music. I mean you're almost reverential, in fact I think you are reverential towards women. You have a line in "The One": "If U're looking' 4 a man who will make U feel like time has just begun/A man that'll make U feel like U're the only thing that ever mattered underneath the sun/I'm the one." Is that the way you feel about women now? In some ways you put "the one" on a pedestal.

0{+> : "The One" video is very special 2 Mayte and I. We tried 2 go back 2 the notion of The Garden of Eden, when there was one idea, instead of having ten women and thinking that that is equivalent to wealth, we wanted 2 just focus on the one idea and see if that would bring us our personal heaven. She did a wonderful job with the video. I'm so proud I finally found a director that I don't have 2 scream at.

Kevin: Can she direct you? I would think it would be hard to work with your wife.

0{+> : No, no, no -- I completely trust her. She edits with "the one" in mind. "The one" being the choreography, the music, she makes her edits and all her shot selection based upon what it is she's trying 2 convey. That's what the song is about, it's about respecting "the one" idea, whatever that genesis is, so that u reach your revelation.

Kevin: You said a minute ago that you've been writing a little bit less because of more time obviously for your family life and for romance. Has that been hard for Mayte or either yourself to sort of figure out because you're somebody who's had a creative surge in your life and to share that surge and to find a place for the love in your heart with that music, has that been an interesting process to come together?

0{+> : She represents music 2 me. She's a dancer by trade and she's inspired so much of my work. The whole second side of Emancipation is dedicated 2 her.

Kevin: She brings the color to your life?

0{+> : Yeah, she brings the glint in my eye, so 2 speak.

The only problem I have with this interview is that we now know that during this time Prince and Mayte were having issues. Larry was in the mix, and I believe Manuela was also working closely with him at PP. Soon after, Mayte was moved to Spain, and Prince was spending most of his time in MN. I think this discussion is more tied to the fact that he had an album to promote, and he was being drilled about his relationship and the song.

*

The funniest part of this interview is when the host starts reciting Prince's lyrics back to him, and Prince pulls out a thin white cracker and starts eating it lol Poor guy...he clearly didn't get the memo that Prince would really not appreciate his lyrics being recited back to him by some stiff white dude biggrin

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^^^ Side note from a woman’s perspective: he was SO freaking cute in that clip!! Also seems that he is holding that original glitter cane that he had made in ‘86 smile
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biggrin Eating cracka's for breakfast.
Even a cracka like me loves this lol

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GOOD MORNING AMERICA (1998)

The Artist sat for a short interview with Kevin Newman on ABC-TV's Good Morning America morning news/talk show on July 1 (postponed from June 30) to promote the release of his new album, Newpower Soul.

.

0{+> : So many different things happen 2 u when u finally connect with your soul mate. U eat better . . .

Kevin: She cooks meals?

0{+> : Oh, yeah. U sleep more, u want 2 stay in the house a little more. I don't record as much as I used 2. Crystal Ball was just released, that's all old material, it's a 5-record set that's available through a 1-800 line, 1-800-NEW-FUNK, and you can also pick it up, a four-CD set, in local stores.

Kevin: Alright. But you know you're quite romantic and I think that might surprise people who were familiar with your early music. I mean you're almost reverential, in fact I think you are reverential towards women. You have a line in "The One": "If U're looking' 4 a man who will make U feel like time has just begun/A man that'll make U feel like U're the only thing that ever mattered underneath the sun/I'm the one." Is that the way you feel about women now? In some ways you put "the one" on a pedestal.

0{+> : "The One" video is very special 2 Mayte and I. We tried 2 go back 2 the notion of The Garden of Eden, when there was one idea, instead of having ten women and thinking that that is equivalent to wealth, we wanted 2 just focus on the one idea and see if that would bring us our personal heaven. She did a wonderful job with the video. I'm so proud I finally found a director that I don't have 2 scream at.

Kevin: Can she direct you? I would think it would be hard to work with your wife.

0{+> : No, no, no -- I completely trust her. She edits with "the one" in mind. "The one" being the choreography, the music, she makes her edits and all her shot selection based upon what it is she's trying 2 convey. That's what the song is about, it's about respecting "the one" idea, whatever that genesis is, so that u reach your revelation.

Kevin: You said a minute ago that you've been writing a little bit less because of more time obviously for your family life and for romance. Has that been hard for Mayte or either yourself to sort of figure out because you're somebody who's had a creative surge in your life and to share that surge and to find a place for the love in your heart with that music, has that been an interesting process to come together?

0{+> : She represents music 2 me. She's a dancer by trade and she's inspired so much of my work. The whole second side of Emancipation is dedicated 2 her.

Kevin: She brings the color to your life?

0{+> : Yeah, she brings the glint in my eye, so 2 speak.

The only problem I have with this interview is that we now know that during this time Prince and Mayte were having issues. Larry was in the mix, and I believe Manuela was also working closely with him at PP. Soon after, Mayte was moved to Spain, and Prince was spending most of his time in MN. I think this discussion is more tied to the fact that he had an album to promote, and he was being drilled about his relationship and the song.

*

The funniest part of this interview is when the host starts reciting Prince's lyrics back to him, and Prince pulls out a thin white cracker and starts eating it lol Poor guy...he clearly didn't get the memo that Prince would really not appreciate his lyrics being recited back to him by some stiff white dude biggrin

Of course, nothing he said in this time period into 1999 indicated they were splitting. Going back to the garden...

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lol yeah I don't think Prince cared if the person was black white mixed or puerto rican, reciting lyrics back to him lol probably wouldn't mind if they were a musician though

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GOOD MORNING AMERICA (1998)

The Artist sat for a short interview with Kevin Newman on ABC-TV's Good Morning America morning news/talk show on July 1 (postponed from June 30) to promote the release of his new album, Newpower Soul.

.

0{+> : So many different things happen 2 u when u finally connect with your soul mate. U eat better . . .

Kevin: She cooks meals?

0{+> : Oh, yeah. U sleep more, u want 2 stay in the house a little more. I don't record as much as I used 2. Crystal Ball was just released, that's all old material, it's a 5-record set that's available through a 1-800 line, 1-800-NEW-FUNK, and you can also pick it up, a four-CD set, in local stores.

Kevin: Alright. But you know you're quite romantic and I think that might surprise people who were familiar with your early music. I mean you're almost reverential, in fact I think you are reverential towards women. You have a line in "The One": "If U're looking' 4 a man who will make U feel like time has just begun/A man that'll make U feel like U're the only thing that ever mattered underneath the sun/I'm the one." Is that the way you feel about women now? In some ways you put "the one" on a pedestal.

0{+> : "The One" video is very special 2 Mayte and I. We tried 2 go back 2 the notion of The Garden of Eden, when there was one idea, instead of having ten women and thinking that that is equivalent to wealth, we wanted 2 just focus on the one idea and see if that would bring us our personal heaven. She did a wonderful job with the video. I'm so proud I finally found a director that I don't have 2 scream at.

Kevin: Can she direct you? I would think it would be hard to work with your wife.

0{+> : No, no, no -- I completely trust her. She edits with "the one" in mind. "The one" being the choreography, the music, she makes her edits and all her shot selection based upon what it is she's trying 2 convey. That's what the song is about, it's about respecting "the one" idea, whatever that genesis is, so that u reach your revelation.

Kevin: You said a minute ago that you've been writing a little bit less because of more time obviously for your family life and for romance. Has that been hard for Mayte or either yourself to sort of figure out because you're somebody who's had a creative surge in your life and to share that surge and to find a place for the love in your heart with that music, has that been an interesting process to come together?

0{+> : She represents music 2 me. She's a dancer by trade and she's inspired so much of my work. The whole second side of Emancipation is dedicated 2 her.

Kevin: She brings the color to your life?

0{+> : Yeah, she brings the glint in my eye, so 2 speak.

Do you think it is possible that he felt this at at that time and then the same way about other people later on? Mani, Bria, Andy

Hard to say, different people, differerent passages of time

I mean in each circumstance I would suspect individuals bring out certain things.
Mayte was in his band, dancing, singing, touring etc since the latter part of the Diamonds & Pearls tour. I suspect he would look at her differently than Bria or Mani

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I don't know. I'll post stuff Prince said about Larry. I believe Larry Graham did introduce and guide 0(+> into Jehovah's Witness. You might not be seeing things clearly.

From my understanding a person cannot just join the JW.

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Yes the changed of religious denomination and influence by an older person respected by Prince can have a changed affect on the music. Has nothing to do with respect or disrespect. I don't have to like everything Prince puts out or says.

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You assume you know what happiness and friendship is between the two, but you don't know. Just like people feel the love and see it between to lover who get married. But then the two are divorced a few years or months later.

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And I personally don't hate him or anyone of them. I have no reason. But I don't like so much who the connection affected the music. No we don't go to respect Larry Graham..

amsterdamman said:

I am a big fan of Larry Graham. Even work with the legend. I met Prince many times with LG. And I saw one thing you 'fans' never saw: the friendship between two man. They were really great friends, yes indeed almost brothers.

Say what you want about LG religon, but you can't tell me that LG guide Prince into Jehova. Prince was an adult and not someone who had no opion. So it was his own choice.

Any of you who blames LG of the dead of Prince or his changed in music, does not respect Prince.

I witness myself that Prince was happy with LG around. True, the mix of they two doesn't produced the greatest music what you can expected.

You might don't like the music of Sly & the Family Stone, you might don't like the music of Graham Central Station, you might don't like the music of Larry Graham solo, or you might don't like Jehova. That's fine, but please don't be rude on Larry Graham.

He is one of the greatest bass players in the world, a legend on his own, one of the nicest people in the world and always treading his fans the best.


There are people here who hates LG. How can you hate somebody? You can not blame LG for Prince. Sorry, but Prince was his own boss. If you are truly a Prince fan, you've got to respect LG. He is a true friend of Prince.


LG is still grieving for the dead of his friend. And still in pain of losing his brother. He never wrote a book or a song about Prince.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

GOOD MORNING AMERICA (1998)

The Artist sat for a short interview with Kevin Newman on ABC-TV's Good Morning America morning news/talk show on July 1 (postponed from June 30) to promote the release of his new album, Newpower Soul.

.

0{+> : So many different things happen 2 u when u finally connect with your soul mate. U eat better . . .

Kevin: She cooks meals?

0{+> : Oh, yeah. U sleep more, u want 2 stay in the house a little more. I don't record as much as I used 2. Crystal Ball was just released, that's all old material, it's a 5-record set that's available through a 1-800 line, 1-800-NEW-FUNK, and you can also pick it up, a four-CD set, in local stores.

Kevin: Alright. But you know you're quite romantic and I think that might surprise people who were familiar with your early music. I mean you're almost reverential, in fact I think you are reverential towards women. You have a line in "The One": "If U're looking' 4 a man who will make U feel like time has just begun/A man that'll make U feel like U're the only thing that ever mattered underneath the sun/I'm the one." Is that the way you feel about women now? In some ways you put "the one" on a pedestal.

0{+> : "The One" video is very special 2 Mayte and I. We tried 2 go back 2 the notion of The Garden of Eden, when there was one idea, instead of having ten women and thinking that that is equivalent to wealth, we wanted 2 just focus on the one idea and see if that would bring us our personal heaven. She did a wonderful job with the video. I'm so proud I finally found a director that I don't have 2 scream at.

Kevin: Can she direct you? I would think it would be hard to work with your wife.

0{+> : No, no, no -- I completely trust her. She edits with "the one" in mind. "The one" being the choreography, the music, she makes her edits and all her shot selection based upon what it is she's trying 2 convey. That's what the song is about, it's about respecting "the one" idea, whatever that genesis is, so that u reach your revelation.

Kevin: You said a minute ago that you've been writing a little bit less because of more time obviously for your family life and for romance. Has that been hard for Mayte or either yourself to sort of figure out because you're somebody who's had a creative surge in your life and to share that surge and to find a place for the love in your heart with that music, has that been an interesting process to come together?

0{+> : She represents music 2 me. She's a dancer by trade and she's inspired so much of my work. The whole second side of Emancipation is dedicated 2 her.

Kevin: She brings the color to your life?

0{+> : Yeah, she brings the glint in my eye, so 2 speak.

Do you think it is possible that he felt this at at that time and then the same way about other people later on? Mani, Bria, Andy

Prince(r.i.p.)although he was obviously smitten with her NEVER took his relationship with Andy public.

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This piece alone tells you who prosylatized Prince. There is a lot of Larry Graham-ing in this one, like a lot of interviews from 98-2000

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While waiting for the Great and Powerful Oz to arrive, I chat with our hired stenographer -- who, like many, was once a Prince fan but hasn't followed his career since the late '80s. "Are there names or technical terms I should be familiar with?" Not really -- Larry Graham and "bass" are all that come to mind with the scary moment fast approaching. After reading numerous accounts of The Artist's often combative demeanor toward journalists, I was still unsure how to keep the conversation steered toward music specifics and away from his usual fashion-mag spiel: God, the millennium, and record-label wars.
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So how can a bassist achieve that kind of lock with a live drummer? "I'll tell you how Larry Graham does it: through his relationship with God. Bootsy plays a little behind the beat -- the way Mavis Staples sings -- but Larry makes the drummer get with him. If he wants to, he can stand up there and go [mimics 16th-note slap line] all night long and never break a sweat." Like the whirling dervishes of Sufi tradition? Exactly. But isn't it possible to create music as deep as Graham's without drawing inspiration from a higher power? "No, it isn't. All things come from God and return to God. I wouldn't say it necessarily needs to come from a higher place -- but it does need to come from another place."
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The Artist still raves about the original Revolution bassist, Brown Mark (who took over for Andre Simone), calling him the tightest bass player next to Graham himself.

in addition to Graham, the group's Mill City Music Festival performance included James Brown saxophonist Maceo Parker, who also has free rein over the Paisley Park facilities for his own projects. Of course, Graham fits seamlessly into New Power Generation -- and you can be sure The Artist never needs to tell him to play less and listen more.
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Because nobody can play that line like I can. It's like 'Hair' [1973's Graham Central Station, Warner Bros.], or 'Lopsy Lu' [Stanley Clarke, Epic] - nobody can play those parts better than Larry and Stanley."
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The Artist picks up a phone receiver and -- without dialing -- summons Hans-Martin Buff, his engineer, who fetches Graham's white Moon bass. "Now imagine me teaching Larry Graham how to play this," he scoffs as he plugs into the board and lays into the "Let's Work" line.
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Skipping my planned opening query, I quick-search the page for the most technical question I can find. "Okay. Do you have a tone recipe for great funk bass?"

Without a pause: "Larry Graham. Larry Graham is my teacher." The Artist continues, veering quickly away from funk tone to God, to all of us being connected by the Spirit -- but just as suddenly he claps his hands sharply, jumps up from his seat, and bellows a joyful noise. "Why do you need a stenographer to type out 'Larry Graham'? That's my answer to your question -- it is all you need to know. Just write down 'Larry Graham' in your notebook!"
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Things went much smoother once I had been paisley-whipped into shape. Yet it seemed no matter what I asked, the conversation turned to either God, Larry Graham, or both -- The Artist freely admitting he modeled his bass style after Graham's. Prince first briefly met the slap pioneer at a Warner Bros. company picnic in 1978, by which time Larry had moved on from Sly & the Family Stone and was a star in his own right fronting Graham Central Station. The two met again a few years later, this time at a Nashville jam. "Larry's wife came up to him and pulled an effects box and cord out of her purse," The Artist remembers warmly. "Now that's love." But Graham and the man he calls "Little Brother" didn't develop a real relationship until the '90s -- "relationship" perhaps being an inadequate description. "Here's a guy who has a brother hug for you every day," says The Artist. "And once Larry taught me The Truth, everything changed. My agoraphobia went away. I used to have nightmares about going to the mall, with everyone looking at me strange. No more." The couple forged an ocean-deep spiritual connection -- The Artist is a Seventh Day Adventist, Graham a Jehovah's Witness. "I mean, Larry still goes around knocking on doors telling people The Truth. You don't see me doing that!"
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The Artist invited his "older brother" to Minneapolis, set him up with a house of his own, and welcomed him into the Paisley Park family, "signing" him to a handshake-based deal with NPG Records. Before long Graham was playing with The Artist's band New Power Generation and feasting Graham Central Station on Paisley's incredible rehearsal and studio facilities. And ever since, after years of always picking up the bass for at least a few numbers per set, The Artist has hardly touched the instrument onstage. "I can't even physically reach for it anymore," he laughs. Why? "I don't know. I hope it's out of respect for Larry, and not because I feel inadequate compared to him."

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Later The Artist reclined on a riser and pouted, "You might love Larry Graham, and you might love Morris Day -- but you don't love me!"

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Yet The Artist has plenty to say about the dangers of ego in a musical context. "My first bass player was Andre Cymone," he remembers, "and Andre's ego always got in the way of his playing. He always played on top of the beat, and I'm convinced that was just because he wanted to be heard. Andre and I would fight every night, because I was always trying to get him to sound like Larry Graham. Larry's happy just going [mimics thumping open-string quarter-notes] -- he's not interested in showing off. When you're showing off it means you aren't listening."
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The Artist currently owns eight basses, according to his tech, Takumi (who also works for Larry Graham).

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November, 1999 His Highness Gets Down!
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TheTruth123 said:


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GOOD MORNING AMERICA (1998)


The Artist sat for a short interview with Kevin Newman on ABC-TV's Good Morning America morning news/talk show on July 1 (postponed from June 30) to promote the release of his new album, Newpower Soul.


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0{+> : So many different things happen 2 u when u finally connect with your soul mate. U eat better . . .


Kevin: She cooks meals?


0{+> : Oh, yeah. U sleep more, u want 2 stay in the house a little more. I don't record as much as I used 2. Crystal Ball was just released, that's all old material, it's a 5-record set that's available through a 1-800 line, 1-800-NEW-FUNK, and you can also pick it up, a four-CD set, in local stores.


Kevin: Alright. But you know you're quite romantic and I think that might surprise people who were familiar with your early music. I mean you're almost reverential, in fact I think you are reverential towards women. You have a line in "The One": "If U're looking' 4 a man who will make U feel like time has just begun/A man that'll make U feel like U're the only thing that ever mattered underneath the sun/I'm the one." Is that the way you feel about women now? In some ways you put "the one" on a pedestal.


0{+> : "The One" video is very special 2 Mayte and I. We tried 2 go back 2 the notion of The Garden of Eden, when there was one idea, instead of having ten women and thinking that that is equivalent to wealth, we wanted 2 just focus on the one idea and see if that would bring us our personal heaven. She did a wonderful job with the video. I'm so proud I finally found a director that I don't have 2 scream at.


Kevin: Can she direct you? I would think it would be hard to work with your wife.


0{+> : No, no, no -- I completely trust her. She edits with "the one" in mind. "The one" being the choreography, the music, she makes her edits and all her shot selection based upon what it is she's trying 2 convey. That's what the song is about, it's about respecting "the one" idea, whatever that genesis is, so that u reach your revelation.


Kevin: You said a minute ago that you've been writing a little bit less because of more time obviously for your family life and for romance. Has that been hard for Mayte or either yourself to sort of figure out because you're somebody who's had a creative surge in your life and to share that surge and to find a place for the love in your heart with that music, has that been an interesting process to come together?


0{+> : She represents music 2 me. She's a dancer by trade and she's inspired so much of my work. The whole second side of Emancipation is dedicated 2 her.


Kevin: She brings the color to your life?


0{+> : Yeah, she brings the glint in my eye, so 2 speak.





Do you think it is possible that he felt this at at that time and then the same way about other people later on? Mani, Bria, Andy

Prince(r.i.p.)although he was obviously smitten with her NEVER took his relationship with Andy public.



Why do thou think that is?
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