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Reply #210 posted 04/30/19 5:24pm

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I went back and checked and nowhere does she claim Prince mom was a prostitute. She said his mom ran from one relationship to the next to feed her drug habit. Big difference there, and this could certainly be true. I don’t think the entire book is a pack of lies.
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Reply #211 posted 04/30/19 5:54pm

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muchtoofast said:

I went back and checked and nowhere does she claim Prince mom was a prostitute. She said his mom ran from one relationship to the next to feed her drug habit. Big difference there, and this could certainly be true. I don’t think the entire book is a pack of lies.

I dont think any of the things she said were lies ( except maybe for the mayte pregnancy situation) i just dont think she should have put his mom out on blast like that
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Reply #212 posted 04/30/19 6:54pm

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muchtoofast said:

I went back and checked and nowhere does she claim Prince mom was a prostitute. She said his mom ran from one relationship to the next to feed her drug habit. Big difference there, and this could certainly be true. I don’t think the entire book is a pack of lies.

Prince(r.i.p.) said similar things about his mother in the beginning interviews of his career. He didn't paint a flattering picture of her that's for sure. In fact he paraded his father around more than anything.

[Edited 4/30/19 19:26pm]

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #213 posted 04/30/19 7:24pm

MoodyBlumes

Shockadelica9 said:

muchtoofast said:

I went back and checked and nowhere does she claim Prince mom was a prostitute. She said his mom ran from one relationship to the next to feed her drug habit. Big difference there, and this could certainly be true. I don’t think the entire book is a pack of lies.

I dont think any of the things she said were lies ( except maybe for the mayte pregnancy situation) i just dont think she should have put his mom out on blast like that


Could you tell us how she calculates that she was Prince's hairdresser for 29 years, because many of us doing research find that not to be the case. Why do you reckon she put his mom.on blast like that?
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Reply #214 posted 04/30/19 7:25pm

MoodyBlumes

Shockadelica9 said:

muchtoofast said:

I went back and checked and nowhere does she claim Prince mom was a prostitute. She said his mom ran from one relationship to the next to feed her drug habit. Big difference there, and this could certainly be true. I don’t think the entire book is a pack of lies.

I dont think any of the things she said were lies ( except maybe for the mayte pregnancy situation) i just dont think she should have put his mom out on blast like that


Could you tell us how she calculates that she was Prince's hairdresser for 29 years, because many of us doing research find that not to be the case. Why do you reckon she put his mom.on blast?
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Reply #215 posted 04/30/19 7:55pm

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Reply #216 posted 04/30/19 7:58pm

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Reply #217 posted 04/30/19 8:02pm

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Reply #218 posted 04/30/19 9:09pm

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[Off topic snip - luv4u]

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done. "Life is a Box Of Chocolates"
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Reply #219 posted 04/30/19 9:11pm

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Reply #220 posted 04/30/19 9:43pm

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[Please discuss the book only, thanks]

Edmonton, AB - canada
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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
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Reply #221 posted 05/01/19 8:43am

Shockadelica9

luv4u said:

[Please discuss the book only, thanks]


Not to argue with you but his mother was a vital part in kims book. I dont know how that is derailing the thread
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Reply #222 posted 05/01/19 9:51am

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Shockadelica9 said:

luv4u said:

[Please discuss the book only, thanks]

Not to argue with you but his mother was a vital part in kims book. I dont know how that is derailing the thread

Discussing the contents of the book is what this thread is all about. So staying on topic would be appreciated.

Not a good idea to discuss stuff that is NOT even in the book.

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Reply #223 posted 05/01/19 10:41am

MoodyBlumes

Shockadelica9 said:

muchtoofast said:
I went back and checked and nowhere does she claim Prince mom was a prostitute. She said his mom ran from one relationship to the next to feed her drug habit. Big difference there, and this could certainly be true. I don’t think the entire book is a pack of lies.
I dont think any of the things she said were lies ( except maybe for the mayte pregnancy situation) i just dont think she should have put his mom out on blast like that

Kim in her book claims Tonya Thompson walked out on Prince in Dec 1988, and she started taking over as hairdresser. According to available records, Tonya Thompson was still doing his hair in 1993; she took over from Earl Jones who did his hair up to Diamonds and Pearls (album). So Kim takes credit for Batman, Graffiti Bridge (album, film), Diamonds and Pearls, Love Symbol album, and his Act I and Act II tours (1993) for which Tonya Thompson is credited.

http://www.princevault.co...itle=Act_I

http://www.princevault.co...tle=Act_II

http://www.princevault.co...earls_Tour

http://www.princevault.co...And_Pearls

http://www.princevault.co...um:_Symbol

In 2002, we find Rob Kelly doing hair for the One Nite Alone tour.

http://www.princevault.co...ne..._Tour

Tresha Williams, personal hair stylist to Prince, 2006 - 2011

In addition to Prince, worked with Misty Copeland, Sheila E, Randee St Nicholas, Bria Valente, Cora Dunham

https://www.kimberlyelise...-williams/

https://www.williamsbooks...fUzaspYJaU

Tresha's husband Carlton Williams:

"It wasn't until his wife, Tresha got the opportunity of a lifetime to travel and work with the world-renowned pop music artist Prince from 2006 - 2011 as his personal hair stylist and personal assistant, and Carlton came on board in 2010 to work with Prince. It was the positive conversations and influence Prince had on Carlton that help motivate him to believe in himself to do whatever he wanted to do."

https://www.williamsbooks...fUzaspYJaU

Prince's mother -

"Earned a master's degree in social work from the University of Minnesota and spent more than 20 years as a social worker at Edison, Franklin, Harrison and other Minneapolis schools...

After divorcing Nelson, she married Baker 34 years ago... They lived in a suburban Minneapolis house that Prince bought for them about 15 years ago."

https://www.postbulletin....ed958.html

[Edited 5/1/19 20:26pm]

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Reply #224 posted 05/01/19 2:27pm

rogifan

I read on social media that Kim is deleting negative comments on her Instagram. Wow if true. eek
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Reply #225 posted 05/01/19 7:49pm

laytonian

Mumio said:

Kares said:

I would ask her to sign my pirated pdf on screen and immediately delete it in front of her.


spit

For sure.
I'm glad I've got the.pdf because I damned sure haven't got my "pre-ordered" book yet.

Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #226 posted 05/01/19 8:19pm

PennyPurple

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laytonian said:

Mumio said:


spit

For sure.
I'm glad I've got the.pdf because I damned sure haven't got my "pre-ordered" book yet.

eek You still haven't gotten your pre ordered book? Why? She brought books to the Celebration.

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Reply #227 posted 05/01/19 8:22pm

MoodyBlumes

MoodyBlumes said:

Shockadelica9 said:

muchtoofast said: I dont think any of the things she said were lies ( except maybe for the mayte pregnancy situation) i just dont think she should have put his mom out on blast like that

Kim in her book claims Tonya Thompson walked out on Prince in Dec 1988, and she started taking over as hairdresser. According to available records, Tonya Thompson was still doing his hair in 1993; she took over from Earl Jones who did his hair up to Diamonds and Pearls (album). So Kim takes credit for Batman, Graffiti Bridge (album, film), Diamonds and Pearls, Love Symbol album, and his Act I and Act II tours (1993) for which Tonya Thompson is credited.

http://www.princevault.co...itle=Act_I

http://www.princevault.co...tle=Act_II

http://www.princevault.co...earls_Tour

http://www.princevault.co...And_Pearls

http://www.princevault.co...um:_Symbol

In 2002, we find Rob Kelly doing hair for the One Nite Alone tour.

http://www.princevault.co...ne..._Tour

Tresha Williams, personal hair stylist to Prince, 2006 - 2011

In addition to Prince, worked with Misty Copeland, Sheila E, Randee St Nicholas, Bria Valente, Cora Dunham

https://www.kimberlyelise...-williams/

https://www.williamsbooks...fUzaspYJaU

Tresha's husband Carlton Williams:

"It wasn't until his wife, Tresha got the opportunity of a lifetime to travel and work with the world-renowned pop music artist Prince from 2006 - 2011 as his personal hair stylist and personal assistant, and Carlton came on board in 2010 to work with Prince. It was the positive conversations and influence Prince had on Carlton that help motivate him to believe in himself to do whatever he wanted to do."

https://www.williamsbooks...fUzaspYJaU

Prince's mother -

"Earned a master's degree in social work from the University of Minnesota and spent more than 20 years as a social worker at Edison, Franklin, Harrison and other Minneapolis schools...

After divorcing Nelson, she married Baker 34 years ago... They lived in a suburban Minneapolis house that Prince bought for them about 15 years ago."

https://www.postbulletin....ed958.html

[Edited 5/1/19 20:26pm]

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Reply #228 posted 05/02/19 10:46am

Kares

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laytonian said:

Mumio said:

Kares said:

I would ask her to sign my pirated pdf on screen and immediately delete it in front of her.


spit

For sure.

.

For sure.
It's trash and she's a liar.

Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.

The Paisley Park Vault spreadsheet: https://goo.gl/zzWHrU
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Reply #229 posted 05/02/19 11:12am

MoodyBlumes

MoodyBlumes said:

MoodyBlumes said:

Kim in her book claims Tonya Thompson walked out on Prince in Dec 1988, and she started taking over as hairdresser. According to available records, Tonya Thompson was still doing his hair in 1993; she took over from Earl Jones who did his hair up to Diamonds and Pearls (album). So Kim takes credit for Batman, Graffiti Bridge (album, film), Diamonds and Pearls, Love Symbol album, and his Act I and Act II tours (1993) for which Tonya Thompson is credited.

http://www.princevault.co...itle=Act_I

http://www.princevault.co...tle=Act_II

http://www.princevault.co...earls_Tour

http://www.princevault.co...And_Pearls

http://www.princevault.co...um:_Symbol

In 2002, we find Rob Kelly doing hair for the One Nite Alone tour.

http://www.princevault.co...ne..._Tour

Tresha Williams, personal hair stylist to Prince, 2006 - 2011

In addition to Prince, worked with Misty Copeland, Sheila E, Randee St Nicholas, Bria Valente, Cora Dunham

https://www.kimberlyelise...-williams/

https://www.williamsbooks...fUzaspYJaU

Tresha's husband Carlton Williams:

"It wasn't until his wife, Tresha got the opportunity of a lifetime to travel and work with the world-renowned pop music artist Prince from 2006 - 2011 as his personal hair stylist and personal assistant, and Carlton came on board in 2010 to work with Prince. It was the positive conversations and influence Prince had on Carlton that help motivate him to believe in himself to do whatever he wanted to do."

https://www.williamsbooks...fUzaspYJaU

Prince's mother -

"Earned a master's degree in social work from the University of Minnesota and spent more than 20 years as a social worker at Edison, Franklin, Harrison and other Minneapolis schools...

After divorcing Nelson, she married Baker 34 years ago... They lived in a suburban Minneapolis house that Prince bought for them about 15 years ago."

https://www.postbulletin....ed958.html

Larry Graham moved from Jamaica to Minnesota, to become Prince's spiritual advisor, and was a true friend and confidant (someone who keeps confidences).

https://www.jamaicaobserv...-s-Witness

[Edited 5/2/19 15:08pm]

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Reply #230 posted 05/02/19 1:44pm

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rogifan said:

I read on social media that Kim is deleting negative comments on her Instagram. Wow if true. eek

tumblr_pqw9scycZ21v73v70o1_540.jpg

I don't think she does. That's my comment from at least one and a half weeks ago.

[Edited 5/2/19 13:48pm]

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Reply #231 posted 05/02/19 6:14pm

onlyforaminute

Nobody from the inner circle has called her out yet? I think I get why there are 2 more books on the horizon. I mean none of the other hairdressers wanna make claims, nobody, it's all crickets and tumbleweeds. That's what's the most strange.
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Reply #232 posted 05/02/19 7:51pm

MoodyBlumes

onlyforaminute said:

Nobody from the inner circle has called her out yet? I think I get why there are 2 more books on the horizon. I mean none of the other hairdressers wanna make claims, nobody, it's all crickets and tumbleweeds. That's what's the most strange.

Folks who worked for him may not be buying books as they have their own memories and busy lives. Tresha Williams is a cancer survivor with her own business, family, book. When people called Kim out for auctioning Prince's hair, she wrote a note saying there was a misunderstanding (the auction house disagreed). Prince's family are knee deep in financial and legal issues, and are likely seeing Kim as we have been, a sincere person who cared about Prince.

Tommy Barbarella, a member of the inner circle cautions,

"No one was close to him. So for anyone to say they were is [bullshit]. If you really know him, you know that."

http://mspmag.com/arts-an...arbarella/

It seems likely that Larry Graham was a confidant, but Larry isn't going about boasting how he was Prince's confidant, or selling fans 'the truth'.

As the money train has taken off, I am proceeding with caution in my readings. Duane Tudahl put 20 years of research into his book, and that is something worth reading.

[Edited 5/2/19 19:54pm]

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Reply #233 posted 05/02/19 8:02pm

onlyforaminute

MoodyBlumes said:



onlyforaminute said:


Nobody from the inner circle has called her out yet? I think I get why there are 2 more books on the horizon. I mean none of the other hairdressers wanna make claims, nobody, it's all crickets and tumbleweeds. That's what's the most strange.

Folks who worked for him may not be buying books as they have their own memories and busy lives. Tresha Williams is a cancer survivor with her own business, family, book. When people called Kim out for auctioning Prince's hair, she wrote a note saying there was a misunderstanding (the auction house disagreed). Prince's family are knee deep in financial and legal issues, and are likely seeing Kim as we have been, a sincere person who cared about Prince.


Tommy Barbarella, a member of the inner circle cautions,


"No one was close to him. So for anyone to say they were is [bullshit]. If you really know him, you know that."


http://mspmag.com/arts-an...arbarella/



It seems likely that Larry Graham was a confidant, but Larry isn't going about boasting how he was Prince's confidant, or selling fans 'the truth'.



As the money train has taken off, I am proceeding with caution in my readings. Duane Tudahl put 20 years of research into his book, and that is something worth reading.

[Edited 5/2/19 19:54pm]




All that has been true for all the other instances that didn't stop anybody from saying their piece. I guess we'll have to keep waiting.
[Edited 5/2/19 20:14pm]
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Reply #234 posted 05/02/19 8:16pm

MoodyBlumes

onlyforaminute said:

MoodyBlumes said:



onlyforaminute said:


Nobody from the inner circle has called her out yet? I think I get why there are 2 more books on the horizon. I mean none of the other hairdressers wanna make claims, nobody, it's all crickets and tumbleweeds. That's what's the most strange.

Folks who worked for him may not be buying books as they have their own memories and busy lives. Tresha Williams is a cancer survivor with her own business, family, book. When people called Kim out for auctioning Prince's hair, she wrote a note saying there was a misunderstanding (the auction house disagreed). Prince's family are knee deep in financial and legal issues, and are likely seeing Kim as we have been, a sincere person who cared about Prince.


Tommy Barbarella, a member of the inner circle cautions,


"No one was close to him. So for anyone to say they were is [bullshit]. If you really know him, you know that."


http://mspmag.com/arts-an...arbarella/



It seems likely that Larry Graham was a confidant, but Larry isn't going about boasting how he was Prince's confidant, or selling fans 'the truth'.



As the money train has taken off, I am proceeding with caution in my readings. Duane Tudahl put 20 years of research into his book, and that is something worth reading.

[Edited 5/2/19 19:54pm]




All that has been true for all the othdr instances that didn't sgop anybody from saying their piece. I guess we'll have to keep waiting.

True, but may take a while. I read a book sometime ago called 'The Sociopath Next Door'... "The covetous sociopath is the ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing."
A fascinating read by Martha Stout.
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Reply #235 posted 05/02/19 9:58pm

pinkcashmere23

onlyforaminute said:

Nobody from the inner circle has called her out yet? I think I get why there are 2 more books on the horizon. I mean none of the other hairdressers wanna make claims, nobody, it's all crickets and tumbleweeds. That's what's the most strange.

I haven't seen that many of his associates supporting the book. I did see Shelby's name pop up on one of Kim's FB lives during the Celebration. The one when she toured the Riley Creek tunnel. Shelby posted a positive comment and Kim gave her a shout out so I assume that she supports Kim as well as the book.

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Reply #236 posted 05/03/19 6:52am

rogifan

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onlyforaminute said:


Nobody from the inner circle has called her out yet? I think I get why there are 2 more books on the horizon. I mean none of the other hairdressers wanna make claims, nobody, it's all crickets and tumbleweeds. That's what's the most strange.

I haven't seen that many of his associates supporting the book. I did see Shelby's name pop up on one of Kim's FB lives during the Celebration. The one when she toured the Riley Creek tunnel. Shelby posted a positive comment and Kim gave her a shout out so I assume that she supports Kim as well as the book.


I don’t think we an assume it means she supports the book. As far as I know she’s not out there telling people to buy it. My guess is she probably hasn’t even read it. Shelby is positive person who doesn’t seem to have a negative bone in her body. I can’t see her publicly speaking out against anyone.

Looks like Funkenberry is back and will be podcasting again. I’ll be curious to know if he says anything about the book.
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Reply #237 posted 05/03/19 9:41am

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MoodyBlumes said:

onlyforaminute said:

Nobody from the inner circle has called her out yet? I think I get why there are 2 more books on the horizon. I mean none of the other hairdressers wanna make claims, nobody, it's all crickets and tumbleweeds. That's what's the most strange.

Folks who worked for him may not be buying books as they have their own memories and busy lives. Tresha Williams is a cancer survivor with her own business, family, book. When people called Kim out for auctioning Prince's hair, she wrote a note saying there was a misunderstanding (the auction house disagreed). Prince's family are knee deep in financial and legal issues, and are likely seeing Kim as we have been, a sincere person who cared about Prince.

Tommy Barbarella, a member of the inner circle cautions,

"No one was close to him. So for anyone to say they were is [bullshit]. If you really know him, you know that."

http://mspmag.com/arts-an...arbarella/

It seems likely that Larry Graham was a confidant, but Larry isn't going about boasting how he was Prince's confidant, or selling fans 'the truth'.

As the money train has taken off, I am proceeding with caution in my readings. Duane Tudahl put 20 years of research into his book, and that is something worth reading.



Actually, Larry told the police quite the opposite.

I think Tommy's quote is accurate.

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Reply #238 posted 05/03/19 9:48am

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Kinda surprising that Neal Karlen was praising Kim as someone who "accurately captured Prince's voice" towards the end of this podcast: https://www.minneapolis.o...e-fifteen/ .

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Reply #239 posted 05/03/19 2:39pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

Kinda surprising that Neal Karlen was praising Kim as someone who "accurately captured Prince's voice" towards the end of this podcast: https://www.minneapolis.o...e-fifteen/ .



Hey thanks for sharing. That was a really great podcast. I always was very struck by Karlen 's take on Prince.
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