Shockadelica9 said: CatB said:
The stuff about his mom is what bothered me the most Im split on that. Technically it wasn't her place, but it ain't like there aren't a couple of very much alive folks with their own SM platforms and fanbases that lived it daily who could easily shut it down if its a lie. It damned sure answers some questions which at the end of the day, truth be told, tons of people around here have been digging for. Folks been talking about wanting to go through his closets and drawers looking for secrets then act brand new and shocked when something is laid in their laps. [Edited 4/22/19 11:38am] Time keeps on slipping into the future...
This moment is all there is... | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Yep, someone should have advised her better.
[Edited 4/22/19 11:21am] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
"Time is space spent with U" | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I feel the same way about his bootlegs and unreleased stuff. Its not what he obviously want shared with the general public but obviously other people feel differently. Apples, oranges I guess. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
This moment is all there is... | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
. My opinion is that Berry feels it's OK to warp the truth or even make up things because that's what he witnessed Prince doing several times, and she even mentions a couple of such incidents in the book. But what she doesn't understand is that there's a big difference between a celebrity making up stories for the press, and a former employee making up things in a book that is marketed with the promise of being an honest account of events. And Berry has lost my last remaining bit of trust on the cover, with the blatant lie of "29 years" – something that she herself contradicts inside the book by claiming to have been hired at Christmas 1988 (another lie). [Edited 4/22/19 12:05pm] Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.
The Paisley Park Vault spreadsheet: https://goo.gl/zzWHrU | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
CatB said:
[Off topic snip. This is a discussion about the book - luv4u] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
That's true. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
PennyPurple said:
That's true. Just can’t get the discussion rules through my thick head so I give up! [Edited 4/22/19 13:42pm] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
It could be. She does seem to have a fondness for some of the women and she admitted to not getting along with Mani which I guess explains why there aren't any photos of her or with her on her IGs yet there are plenty of Mayte. Kim seemed to mainly have some resentment towards the "fly by nighters" she said were around for a short time. I assume you are suggesting the reality of it eventually being revealed that Prince was abused as a child. Some of his lyrics such as the line that you posted are very biting so I would not be surprised to learn that it was the case. What he said during some of the P&M shows was suggestive of that as well. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
pinkcashmere23 said:
It could be. She does seem to have a fondness for some of the women and she admitted to not getting along with Mani which I guess explains why there aren't any photos of her or with her on her IGs yet there are plenty of Mayte. Kim seemed to mainly have some resentment towards the "fly by nighters" she said were around for a short time. I assume you are suggesting the reality of it eventually being revealed that Prince was abused as a child. Some of his lyrics such as the line that you posted are very biting so I would not be surprised to learn that it was the case. What he said during some of the P&M shows was suggestive of that as well. Well Mayte stopped following Kim in IG and Kim stopped following her. I wonder what went down between them 🧐 don’t know if it was before or after the steve parke fiasco | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I'm the type of person who, if you told me you'd killed someone I'd probably stop talking to you but I'd never tell either. That's between you and your Maker, if and when it comes out, so I don't understand when someone else doesn't respect boundaries or even have personal boundaries, especially when it comes to someone in the public eye.
Prince was pretty smart and I don't for one minute think he didn't really know Kim deep down. He wouldn't have kept her on for 20+ years (whatever the real number is) which leads me to question some of the things she's said she was privy to. When a person lies about something, they can usually justify lying about anything. I'm disappointed she took liberties with the story of his mother if she wants to come across all Christian and stuff. "Honor Thy Mother and Father" covers all parents if that's her stance.
I only read the book as a free Kindle but, unless she truly takes a different tack and covers stories about their collaboration, tours, funny anecdotes or what she learned from the experience - instead of badly repeated gossip - I won't be looking out for anything further from her.
God is my Sugar Daddy. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
onlyforaminute said: Shockadelica9 said: The stuff about his mom is what bothered me the most Im split on that. Technically it wasn't her place, but it ain't like there aren't a couple of very much alive folks with their own SM platforms and fanbases that lived it daily who could easily shut it down if its a lie. It damned sure answers some questions which at the end of the day, truth be told, tons of people around here have been digging for. Folks been talking about wanting to go through his closets and drawers looking for secrets then act brand new and shocked when something is laid in their laps. [Edited 4/22/19 11:38am] THIS. Before I even read that part about the mother I felt that people here were being very judgemental and harsh with Kim for saying whatever it was she said. What she said was honest, and it explains his always being afraid of being stolen from and some of why he protected himself and definitely his heart so much. We can”t sit here for years wanting to know things, discussing things to death and then be angry when somebody finally gives us an answer. I’m glad Kim was honest. Prince is certainly not alone and having these experiences. I mean, is it really that unique ? | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
CatB said:
She helped me understand him more. I have much more compassion for him than I did before. And in time, others will too. Is he upset right now? I dont know. I Do you know that when people are with God, they change. [Edited 4/22/19 16:08pm] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
“Marco81: This book is a joke…” So true!
| |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I don't think she was or is being honest in all things. She probably is being honest about his flings, but heck we all know that. We also know about Maytes mom, and it has been discussed here many times. Her timeline is totally off. Starting with the day of his death. Then she said that Mayte had a miscarriage BEFORE the baby. Mayte herself said it was AFTER the baby. Who are you to believe?, his hairdresser or his wife and mother of the children?
| |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
PennyPurple said:
I don't think she was or is being honest in all things. She probably is being honest about his flings, but heck we all know that. We also know about Maytes mom, and it has been discussed here many times. Her timeline is totally off. Starting with the day of his death. Then she said that Mayte had a miscarriage BEFORE the baby. Mayte herself said it was AFTER the baby. Who are you to believe?, his hairdresser or his wife and mother of the children?
I'm more of the opinion that when it comes to talking about Mayte's miscarriage, Kim Berry shouldn't even have included it in her book. It's not something for her to talk about regardless of whether her information is correct or not. I get that people are interested in what she has to say about Prince's life but some things should be private. So by all means, talk about his womanising, talk about his hair, but don't include details of his dead children in your book. It's tasteless, classless and hurtful to the mother of the child. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Why is it Kim Berry’s place to talk about Prince’s womanizing? Because that’s juicy gossip some people are OK with? This book is 100% false advertising. What that tells me is either Kim wasn’t as close to Prince as she claimed or doesn’t have the stories to tell and so is filling the book with what she thinks will sell. Sad, very sad. Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜 | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
"Time is space spent with U" | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
rogifan said: Why is it Kim Berry’s place to talk about Prince’s womanizing? Because that’s juicy gossip some people are OK with? This book is 100% false advertising. What that tells me is either Kim wasn’t as close to Prince as she claimed or doesn’t have the stories to tell and so is filling the book with what she thinks will sell. Sad, very sad. It's OK to talk about it because it was common knowledge and something he even bragged about himself. We all know he slept with many, many women. That information is not new. Although, for the record, I don't find ANY of the book interesting but that's only because I have no interest in his personal life. But if people are going to try make money off his name and write books about his life, then things like his "womanising" are fair game. His wife's miscarriage is not. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
EmmaMcG said: rogifan said: Why is it Kim Berry’s place to talk about Prince’s womanizing? Because that’s juicy gossip some people are OK with? This book is 100% false advertising. What that tells me is either Kim wasn’t as close to Prince as she claimed or doesn’t have the stories to tell and so is filling the book with what she thinks will sell. Sad, very sad. It's OK to talk about it because it was common knowledge and something he even bragged about himself. We all know he slept with many, many women. That information is not new. Although, for the record, I don't find ANY of the book interesting but that's only because I have no interest in his personal life. But if people are going to try make money off his name and write books about his life, then things like his "womanising" are fair game. His wife's miscarriage is not. So what’s the point of putting it in her book when it’s not new? This book wasn’t billed as a discussion about Prince’s love life or ‘let me tell you how many women he slept with’. Like I said in the other thread, she claims she worked for him for 29 years and in all that time the only thing she thinks is interesting and worthy of a book is his womanizing? There was nothing more to the man than he slept with lots of women? im sorry, she can f—k off and no associate who really gave a damn about the man should be making excuses for her or want anything to do with her. Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜 | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
. [Edited 4/23/19 12:54pm] Friends don't let friends clap on 1 and 3.
The Paisley Park Vault spreadsheet: https://goo.gl/zzWHrU | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Really have to go back and re-read the whole thing again as its done my head in.
[Edited 4/23/19 7:13am] [Edited 4/23/19 7:17am] "Prince don't know how many hits he got" | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
rogifan said: EmmaMcG said: It's OK to talk about it because it was common knowledge and something he even bragged about himself. We all know he slept with many, many women. That information is not new. Although, for the record, I don't find ANY of the book interesting but that's only because I have no interest in his personal life. But if people are going to try make money off his name and write books about his life, then things like his "womanising" are fair game. His wife's miscarriage is not. So what’s the point of putting it in her book when it’s not new? This book wasn’t billed as a discussion about Prince’s love life or ‘let me tell you how many women he slept with’. Like I said in the other thread, she claims she worked for him for 29 years and in all that time the only thing she thinks is interesting and worthy of a book is his womanizing? There was nothing more to the man than he slept with lots of women? im sorry, she can f—k off and no associate who really gave a damn about the man should be making excuses for her or want anything to do with her. Yeah, not disagreeing with you there. I'm just pointing out that IF books like these are going to be written, then don't mention his dead children. It's not her place to talk about that. Mayte and Prince are the only two people who have any right to write about their child. Prince's "womanising" is not private. He bragged about it a lot himself. Now, that stuff doesn't interest me but there are those who like all that tabloid stuff. And seeing as Prince himself never shied away from it, then I have no problem with this woman talking about it. I mean, a book written by a hairdresser is bound to feature gossip. That's what they do. Besides, I don't know how the book was advertised, but you'd have to assume that there would be very little of interest in it anyway. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
The part about Morris shaving his own hair on stage during a show is also inaccurate. It was Prince who shaved Morris´s hair during a live show at Paisley Park that was later used for the Beautiful Experience TV special and most of us know that scene very well. And Morris talked about it in interviews, too. Parts of the book sound more like hearsay than personal anecdotes. [Edited 4/23/19 8:04am] " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I had high expectations for this book. I was rooting for Kim but, I have to admit, I was very disappointed. The #1 thing I'm disappointed about is the length and depth of content in the book. This book is only 194 pages long but it is in large fonts, large quotations fill pages, full page sketches, double spaced lists of people who help finance this book. MAYBE there was 90 pages of Kim's worded material, maybe. In my opintion, this book was only 1/2 complete. It's paperback and $24. It is worth about $12. (actually, buy the kindle for $9)
The other thing that bothers me is that her base is the Purple Family. The same family who helped finance this book and encouraged her and supported her. EVERYTHING should have been done to fulfill her committments and adhere to her timelines to this fan base. She should have kept them informed if delays happened. The book was supposed to be signed and in the hands of her investors in January. Here we are at celebration and those who attend celebration and purchase the book again will have first dibs. Those that supported her will be the last to receive her book. SMH at the business move behind that decision.
Kim, your word and your name are the two most important things you have. You may have squandered those two assets through this whole process. (your manager, Darrell, dropped the ball left and right compounding our disappointment in the project.)
As for the book's content? Nothing really offended me. It was all surface information and most of the information was available in one form or another through the internet.. I thought the stories would be more fleshed out having hired someone to help write this book. Andrea Williams owes Kim and her fans a refund. That was subpar writing.
This post is about as long as her book...and it's free with more exciting information than the book. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Wow, Troy Gua even left an online review of the book on Amazon, and he is not happy. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
“rogigan: Why is it Kim Berry’s place to talk about Prince’s womanizing? Because that’s juicy gossip some people are OK with? This book is 100% false advertising. What that tells me is either Kim wasn’t as close to Prince as she claimed or doesn’t have the stories to tell and so is filling the book with what she thinks will sell. Sad, very sad.” “Kares: I absolutely agree. And the fact that Berry couldn't even be bothered to look up how to spell Amiir's name correctly shows how much she cares about anything or anyone, other then herself.” “EmmaMcG: I’m more of the opinion that when it comes to talking about Mayte’s miscarriage, Kim shouldn’t even have included it in her book. It’s not something for her to talk about regardless of whether her information is correct or not. I get that people are interested in what she has to say about Prince’s life, but some things should be private. So by all means, talk about his womanizing, talk about his hair, but don’t include details of his dead children in your book. It’s tasteless, classless and hurtful to the mother of the child.” All of this! Kim Berry showed very poor judgement in writing this book. In my opinion she is an opportunistic charlatan
| |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
PennyPurple said: Wow, Troy Gua even left an online review of the book on Amazon, and he is not happy. I logged off FB a while ago but logged on last night to see if any Prince groups were discussing this book. None of the ones was a member of were but most of them are heavily moderated and would probably remove any post speaking ill of this book. Especially when Kim is a member of some of them. No doubt Kim will be around all the Celebration events signing pictures or book copies. I just checked out the reviews on Amazon. Brutal. I’d love to know though who the 5 star reviews are from. Must be people who know Kim personally. [Edited 4/23/19 14:00pm] Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜 | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
"Time is space spent with U" | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Moderator moderator |
Here is some of the reviews/opinions on Amazon. Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |