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Reply #60 posted 04/20/19 6:05pm

rogifan

Kares said:



PennyPurple said:


Had a lot of free time while the Org was down. There was a link provided on the web and I read it there. smile



Let's just say there is sooo much wrong in this book that I don't know where to begin. Kim must be living in her own time, because her timelines are way off.



What she said about his mother isn't cool and can't be backed up. mad



She said Mayte had the miscarriage before the baby was born, Mayte said she had the miscarriage after the baby was born. Who you gonna believe Mayte or the hairdresser?



She said that she couldn't see Prince the day he died because he had already been cremated. NO, he was cremated the next day after the autopsy. Then she said she called Sheila E who told her the memorial service at PP was the next morning, Again not true because that service was on Saturday.

She has a problem with Tyka spending some time with her brother after he passed, and she didn't get to.



She said she was there when the baby was born in the hospital, somehow I don't believe that. She said that when the Drs. were talking about putting a tube in the baby, she told Prince about her brother who had to have a tube and he kept pulling it out, Prince told her not to make him laugh, that he is suppose to be serious.....



I don't believe her on 95% of her book. Her work timeline is off too, Earl Jones was the hairdresser then Tonya, some of the stuff Kim is claiming is their work.....




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What a load of rubbish this book is. I just read it but wish I didn't.
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Apart from all the points above (and I agree with them), here's a few more:


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– The cover says "29 years with Prince" but inside she claims she was hired on Christmas 1988. Now I have no idea why she felt necessary to lie in the first place, but at least she could've made sure that her statements in the book actually support that lie. No matter how I calculate, from December 1988 to April 2016 is only 27 years and 4 months, not 29 years. So even her own statements inside the book contradict the title of the book. Brilliant, isn't it? While of course we all know that neither the 27 nor the 29 years can be true. In reality she must've started sometime during or after the Diamonds & Pearls Tour. That's 24 years the most.
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– The book is 187 pages in total, but contains only about a 100 pages worth of actual text we might be interested in. The rest is blank pages with some recurring ornaments (most probably from an ancient CorelDraw version) she calls "graphic design", pages with names of hairstyling products, some dreadful drawings P (I'm not referring to Debbie's costume designs) and other nonsense, just to fill the pages.
All this is just to try maximising the income by spreading what could've been a 250 page book into 3 volumes of rubbish. Disgusting.
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– The writing is terrible, even with the help she got, it's still full of stupid lines like "P was in control of the Monopoly board playing chess while everybody else played checkers". She even repeats something like this later, and by the third mention it becomes a chessboard with Mayte being treated as the queen on it – Berry obviously has no clue of the role of the queen chess piece...


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Badmouthing not only Prince's, but Mayte's mum, as well as Manuela, is of very poor taste, in my opinion.


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She's talking about P routinely juggling 2-3 women, yet on another page she says that far fewer women who claimed to have slept with P actually did.
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Some of the things she gossips about are most probably true but that's no excuse for the rest which are obviously either made up or just hearsay she's trying to pass on as first hand experience. She's totally discredited herself with this one and I've no idea how much support she will get for the next volumes.


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I had zero intention of buying this but now even the pirated pdf will go to the trash where it belongs.
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Well now I have really no interest in reading this. Once again total false advertising. Kim never said she was going to write a book full of gossip. Sad thing is a lot of Prince fans (like the ones attending Celebration) think Kim is great. I’m sure all of them are buying this book. Though I wonder if their impression will change after reading it.
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Reply #61 posted 04/21/19 5:47am

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What about that voodoo stuff? I remember reading somewhere from others that they had some voodoo things just for fun or something like that but I‘m 100% certain it wasn’t the nannies, did they even talk after they been fired?. I bet Kim read that too and just re-wrote the story. But I also seriously don’t believe in voodoo so I found that really laughable.
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Reply #62 posted 04/21/19 10:38am

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She said P told her the end was near on April 1, 2016.

She said in another interview too that Prince gave her hints that his time on this earth was almost up due to illiness and hell no it wasn't because of the drugs. She wasn't the only associate said that. I said from day one that Prince knew he was dying and the estate and his family and industry heads knows but mainly the family and estate trying to keep the fans from knowing what happen out of shame and stigma. I hope some of us are going to be around in 2046 because that is when the full autospy will be available.

But I am going to read book with open minded. I am looking more to read books from Morris Day and Brownmark and possibly Susannah they seem more frank and trustworthy.

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Reply #63 posted 04/21/19 1:23pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


She said P told her the end was near on April 1, 2016.

She said in another interview too that Prince gave her hints that his time on this earth was almost up due to illiness and hell no it wasn't because of the drugs. She wasn't the only associate said that. I said from day one that Prince knew he was dying and the estate and his family and industry heads knows but mainly the family and estate trying to keep the fans from knowing what happen out of shame and stigma. I hope some of us are going to be around in 2046 because that is when the full autospy will be available.

But I am going to read book with open minded. I am looking more to read books from Morris Day and Brownmark and possibly Susannah they seem more frank and trustworthy.

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Reply #64 posted 04/21/19 2:01pm

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peggyon said:



ladygirl99 said:




ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



She said P told her the end was near on April 1, 2016.





She said in another interview too that Prince gave her hints that his time on this earth was almost up due to illiness and hell no it wasn't because of the drugs. She wasn't the only associate said that. I said from day one that Prince knew he was dying and the estate and his family and industry heads knows but mainly the family and estate trying to keep the fans from knowing what happen out of shame and stigma. I hope some of us are going to be around in 2046 because that is when the full autospy will be available.



But I am going to read book with open minded. I am looking more to read books from Morris Day and Brownmark and possibly Susannah they seem more frank and trustworthy.





Yes.


PLEASE DO NOT TURN THIS THREAD INTO A DEATH THREAD
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Reply #65 posted 04/21/19 2:27pm

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peggyon said:

Yes.

PLEASE DO NOT TURN THIS THREAD INTO A DEATH THREAD

Not doing that.

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Reply #66 posted 04/21/19 2:31pm

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I did come away with a better understanding of him and the possible reason behind some of his behavior. I found myself questioning a lot that was wrtten,mainly the stories about he and Mayte. The way she had described the book in her interviews,she made it sound like she was going to paint him in a more positive light and focus mainly on the good and I felt she spent needless time talking about the more negative traits of his personality. I came away with the feeling that she didn't have much respect for him or the people in his life She had also said in interviews that the book would be full of stories of her time with him on the road and that ended up not being the case. I was kind of disappointed about that. Glad I didn't buy it and downloaded it fom a link someone shared in a group. I'm hoping that someone who worked closely with him and seems to have love for him as a person like Shelby J or Elisa Fiorillo Dease will eventually write a book about their time with him. I've really enjoyed the stories they have shared in interviews and they seem to have genuinely cared for him.

But this is only part 1, It's still Part 2 & 3 left.

Right. I had forgotten about that. Well,hopefully if there are volumes 2 and 3 they will be more focused on those things. She said in interviews and even at the beginning of the book that it would not be about salacious gossip and she ended up a few pages later mentioning him sending girls out to bring others back to Paisley for threesomes so I don't have much hope that the next two volumes will be any better. Hopefully I'm wrong and she'll share more positive stories about him as a friend,husband and philanthropist as she said she would in the interviews prior to the book's release.

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Reply #67 posted 04/21/19 2:34pm

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peggyon said:

Shockadelica9 said:

peggyon said: PLEASE DO NOT TURN THIS THREAD INTO A DEATH THREAD

There is no need to shout at me. What I was referencing was talked about in her book.

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Reply #68 posted 04/21/19 3:03pm

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Reply #69 posted 04/21/19 5:51pm

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Read the book and it quickly made me realise that for someone that was around that long she surely didn’t express it in the book. She was all over the place, almost like pointing out things that stood out and things that may have been controversial. Understand she wasn’t a yes person and she’s going to say it how she saw things, one minute exposing Prince’s faults and then praising him. If he really treated all the women in his life that bad don’t you think they would have all come out saying so? All the woman who have come out have praised him and there’s a lot of them.
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Reply #70 posted 04/21/19 6:05pm

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Read the book and it quickly made me realise that for someone that was around that long she surely didn’t express it in the book. She was all over the place, almost like pointing out things that stood out and things that may have been controversial. Understand she wasn’t a yes person and she’s going to say it how she saw things, one minute exposing Prince’s faults and then praising him. If he really treated all the women in his life that bad don’t you think they would have all come out saying so? All the woman who have come out have praised him and there’s a lot of them.

Yeah.....not even Mayte portrayed him as controlling as Kim did....

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Reply #71 posted 04/21/19 8:04pm

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I am going to give these books a chance.
All I want is for her to be honest.
I will start the first one tonight and really look forward to seeing how the other books turn out. Hopefully they won’t take long to write, as I really want to hear about his later years.
So much has been written about the early years and Mayte years...
I want to hear about the last years.
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Reply #72 posted 04/21/19 8:37pm

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TheTruth123 said:

I am going to give these books a chance.
All I want is for her to be honest.
I will start the first one tonight and really look forward to seeing how the other books turn out. Hopefully they won’t take long to write, as I really want to hear about his later years.
So much has been written about the early years and Mayte years...
I want to hear about the last years.


Me too!
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Reply #73 posted 04/21/19 8:52pm

pinkcashmere23

Krystalkisses said:

TheTruth123 said:
I am going to give these books a chance. All I want is for her to be honest. I will start the first one tonight and really look forward to seeing how the other books turn out. Hopefully they won’t take long to write, as I really want to hear about his later years. So much has been written about the early years and Mayte years... I want to hear about the last years.
Me too!

I did appreciate the parts of the book when she shared about some of the spiritual discussions that she said they had and I would enjoy hearing more stories like them.

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Reply #74 posted 04/21/19 9:07pm

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pinkcashmere23 said:



Krystalkisses said:


TheTruth123 said:
I am going to give these books a chance. All I want is for her to be honest. I will start the first one tonight and really look forward to seeing how the other books turn out. Hopefully they won’t take long to write, as I really want to hear about his later years. So much has been written about the early years and Mayte years... I want to hear about the last years.

Me too!

I did appreciate the parts of the book when she shared about some of the spiritual discussions that she said they had and I would enjoy hearing more stories like them.



Yes I was most looking towards reading about his spiritual evolution and the discussions they had about that.

Also I listened to the Michael Dean podcast yesterday and the Dave guy, said something that really gave me pause...with all the anger from the fans it is important to remember Kim Berry is grieving too...i thought that was important to point out because the grieving process is messy and there is no rulebook for this type of stuff. Just something important to keep in mind, I think ...i thought it was a very important point when fans are trying to assign people's motivations based on their behavior. Also I think alot of this anger towards Kim Berry might be misdirected...like they are kinda jolted to find out Prince doesn't align with their fantasy and they can't handle the disappointment so they spend their energy trying to discredit what she says or pick apart details of her story...
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Reply #75 posted 04/21/19 9:40pm

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What's up with so many blank pages?

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Reply #76 posted 04/21/19 9:49pm

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This book is so disjointed. It is as though she spoke into a microphone with her random thoughts, and someone typed it up. And now it is a book

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Reply #77 posted 04/21/19 10:49pm

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All I got to say is this isn't the games of thrones, it doesn't need a series, it all could have been wrapped up in one book.
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Reply #78 posted 04/21/19 11:09pm

pinkcashmere23

Krystalkisses said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I did appreciate the parts of the book when she shared about some of the spiritual discussions that she said they had and I would enjoy hearing more stories like them.

Yes I was most looking towards reading about his spiritual evolution and the discussions they had about that. Also I listened to the Michael Dean podcast yesterday and the Dave guy, said something that really gave me pause...with all the anger from the fans it is important to remember Kim Berry is grieving too...i thought that was important to point out because the grieving process is messy and there is no rulebook for this type of stuff. Just something important to keep in mind, I think ...i thought it was a very important point when fans are trying to assign people's motivations based on their behavior. Also I think alot of this anger towards Kim Berry might be misdirected...like they are kinda jolted to find out Prince doesn't align with their fantasy and they can't handle the disappointment so they spend their energy trying to discredit what she says or pick apart details of her story... [Edited 4/21/19 21:09pm] [Edited 4/21/19 21:13pm]

I was too and was hoping it would cover more about that. I'll have to listen to that podcast. I'm interested in hearing what they had to say. I was surprised to find that she discussed some of those things but not that they had occurred. I just thought she could have been a bit more tactful with her approach and I felt she spent too much time on the subject. I just didn't expect that from her I guess.

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Reply #79 posted 04/21/19 11:19pm

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pinkcashmere23 said:



Krystalkisses said:


pinkcashmere23 said:


I did appreciate the parts of the book when she shared about some of the spiritual discussions that she said they had and I would enjoy hearing more stories like them.



Yes I was most looking towards reading about his spiritual evolution and the discussions they had about that. Also I listened to the Michael Dean podcast yesterday and the Dave guy, said something that really gave me pause...with all the anger from the fans it is important to remember Kim Berry is grieving too...i thought that was important to point out because the grieving process is messy and there is no rulebook for this type of stuff. Just something important to keep in mind, I think ...i thought it was a very important point when fans are trying to assign people's motivations based on their behavior. Also I think alot of this anger towards Kim Berry might be misdirected...like they are kinda jolted to find out Prince doesn't align with their fantasy and they can't handle the disappointment so they spend their energy trying to discredit what she says or pick apart details of her story... [Edited 4/21/19 21:09pm] [Edited 4/21/19 21:13pm]

I was too and was hoping it would cover more about that. I'll have to listen to that podcast. I'm interested in hearing what they had to say. I was surprised to find that she discussed some of those things but not that they had occurred. I just thought she could have been a bit more tactful with her approach and I felt she spent too much time on the subject. I just didn't expect that from her I guess.

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Hmmm, I guess it was important to get that stuff out there I guess. But even Prince already kinda said in " Breakdown" his womanizing was a big part of his life and he paid a price for that lifestyle.
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Reply #80 posted 04/21/19 11:52pm

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Krystalkisses said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I was too and was hoping it would cover more about that. I'll have to listen to that podcast. I'm interested in hearing what they had to say. I was surprised to find that she discussed some of those things but not that they had occurred. I just thought she could have been a bit more tactful with her approach and I felt she spent too much time on the subject. I just didn't expect that from her I guess.

[Edited 4/21/19 23:10pm]

Hmmm, I guess it was important to get that stuff out there I guess. But even Prince already kinda said in " Breakdown" his womanizing was a big part of his life and he paid a price for that lifestyle.

I guess. Perhaps that was a side of his personality she didn't like and felt the need to vent. I'm listening to the podcast now and a few of the hosts had the same feelings that some of us did concerning what she shared about his personal life. I did enjoy the portions of the book where she discussed her personal journey and some of her spiritual experiences. Dave Hampton was bit softer toward her than the other hosts of the podcast but that may be because he knew her personally and is better equipped to speak on her as a person. He didn't like her discussing Prince and Mayte's relationship and the loss of their child or the scattered way that the book was put together. I thought that was a downside as well but I had expected that she would talk a bit about thier marriage and loss since Kim said in the description on her site that the book would be about him as a husband and father. I'm listening to Dave talking about what he said was Prince's perceived disrespect of women and he said that it was associated with artistic behavior. He also said that he saw another side where he was "very reverential" towards women.

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Reply #81 posted 04/22/19 12:45am

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TheTruth123 said:

I am going to give these books a chance. All I want is for her to be honest.

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I admire your optimism about someone who already blatantly lies in the title of her book.

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Reply #82 posted 04/22/19 6:44am

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Krystalkisses said:



Yes I was most looking towards reading about his spiritual evolution and the discussions they had about that. Also I listened to the Michael Dean podcast yesterday and the Dave guy, said something that really gave me pause...with all the anger from the fans it is important to remember Kim Berry is grieving too...i thought that was important to point out because the grieving process is messy and there is no rulebook for this type of stuff. Just something important to keep in mind, I think ...i thought it was a very important point when fans are trying to assign people's motivations based on their behavior. Also I think alot of this anger towards Kim Berry might be misdirected...like they are kinda jolted to find out Prince doesn't align with their fantasy and they can't handle the disappointment so they spend their energy trying to discredit what she says or pick apart details of her story... [Edited 4/21/19 21:09pm] [Edited 4/21/19 21:13pm]

She wasn't grieving so much that she couldn't write a book, or sell his things, or his HAIR, that's why there is anger towards Kim.


She is being discredited because of these 1/2 truths. Am I going to believe Kim over Mayte in regards to the baby and the miscarriage? NO.

Again I wish the people she comments on this book would confirm or deny.

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Reply #83 posted 04/22/19 6:45am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

What's up with so many blank pages?

Filler. biggrin

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Reply #84 posted 04/22/19 7:09am

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PennyPurple said:

She wasn't grieving so much that she couldn't write a book, or sell his things, or his HAIR, that's why there is anger towards Kim.


She is being discredited because of these 1/2 truths. Am I going to believe Kim over Mayte in regards to the baby and the miscarriage? NO.

Again I wish the people she comments on this book would confirm or deny.



It's not even worth it.

Sorry for the trees that had to die for that waste of paper and for his fans that she f***ed over just in time for the 3rd anniversary.

To drag his mother into it, betraying his trust, is just beyond words.



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Reply #85 posted 04/22/19 7:26am

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PennyPurple said:



Krystalkisses said:






Yes I was most looking towards reading about his spiritual evolution and the discussions they had about that. Also I listened to the Michael Dean podcast yesterday and the Dave guy, said something that really gave me pause...with all the anger from the fans it is important to remember Kim Berry is grieving too...i thought that was important to point out because the grieving process is messy and there is no rulebook for this type of stuff. Just something important to keep in mind, I think ...i thought it was a very important point when fans are trying to assign people's motivations based on their behavior. Also I think alot of this anger towards Kim Berry might be misdirected...like they are kinda jolted to find out Prince doesn't align with their fantasy and they can't handle the disappointment so they spend their energy trying to discredit what she says or pick apart details of her story... [Edited 4/21/19 21:09pm] [Edited 4/21/19 21:13pm]

She wasn't grieving so much that she couldn't write a book, or sell his things, or his HAIR, that's why there is anger towards Kim.



She is being discredited because of these 1/2 truths. Am I going to believe Kim over Mayte in regards to the baby and the miscarriage? NO.

Again I wish the people she comments on this book would confirm or deny.



Well, just maybe, their silence could be telling.
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Reply #86 posted 04/22/19 8:01am

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PennyPurple said:






She wasn't grieving so much that she couldn't write a book, or sell his things, or his HAIR, that's why there is anger towards Kim.



She is being discredited because of these 1/2 truths. Am I going to believe Kim over Mayte in regards to the baby and the miscarriage? NO.

Again I wish the people she comments on this book would confirm or deny.





It's not even worth it.

Sorry for the trees that had to die for that waste of paper and for his fans that she f***ed over just in time for the 3rd anniversary.

To drag his mother into it, betraying his trust, is just beyond words.




The stuff about his mom is what bothered me the most
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Reply #87 posted 04/22/19 9:11am

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pinkcashmere23 said:



Krystalkisses said:


pinkcashmere23 said:


I was too and was hoping it would cover more about that. I'll have to listen to that podcast. I'm interested in hearing what they had to say. I was surprised to find that she discussed some of those things but not that they had occurred. I just thought she could have been a bit more tactful with her approach and I felt she spent too much time on the subject. I just didn't expect that from her I guess.


[Edited 4/21/19 23:10pm]



Hmmm, I guess it was important to get that stuff out there I guess. But even Prince already kinda said in " Breakdown" his womanizing was a big part of his life and he paid a price for that lifestyle.

I guess. Perhaps that was a side of his personality she didn't like and felt the need to vent. I'm listening to the podcast now and a few of the hosts had the same feelings that some of us did concerning what she shared about his personal life. I did enjoy the portions of the book where she discussed her personal journey and some of her spiritual experiences. Dave Hampton was bit softer toward her than the other hosts of the podcast but that may be because he knew her personally and is better equipped to speak on her as a person. He didn't like her discussing Prince and Mayte's relationship and the loss of their child or the scattered way that the book was put together. I thought that was a downside as well but I had expected that she would talk a bit about thier marriage and loss since Kim said in the description on her site that the book would be about him as a husband and father. I'm listening to Dave talking about what he said was Prince's perceived disrespect of women and he said that it was associated with artistic behavior. He also said that he saw another side where he was "very reverential" towards women.



I feel ya. Maybe she was friends with some of these women that he hurt and she wanted to reassure them, maybe she held all this in and had to be a source of comfort and a shoulder to cry on for many women that he hurt, and she held in her anger/ disappointment for many years, we really don't know why she chose to say this publicly ...but what I do know is this...God works in mysterious ways and things done in the dark will eventually come to light. It isn't lost on me that April is Child Abuse Awareness month, he died in April...once that info is out there ask yourself what are you going to do with this information? Are you going to do something positive with what you learned or are you going to contribute to the world's misery? Prince already told us " Don't abuse children, or they turn out like me" .
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Reply #88 posted 04/22/19 9:13am

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CatB said:



PennyPurple said:






She wasn't grieving so much that she couldn't write a book, or sell his things, or his HAIR, that's why there is anger towards Kim.



She is being discredited because of these 1/2 truths. Am I going to believe Kim over Mayte in regards to the baby and the miscarriage? NO.

Again I wish the people she comments on this book would confirm or deny.





It's not even worth it.

Sorry for the trees that had to die for that waste of paper and for his fans that she f***ed over just in time for the 3rd anniversary.

To drag his mother into it, betraying his trust, is just beyond words.




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Reply #89 posted 04/22/19 10:27am

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CatB said:



PennyPurple said:






She wasn't grieving so much that she couldn't write a book, or sell his things, or his HAIR, that's why there is anger towards Kim.



She is being discredited because of these 1/2 truths. Am I going to believe Kim over Mayte in regards to the baby and the miscarriage? NO.

Again I wish the people she comments on this book would confirm or deny.





It's not even worth it.

Sorry for the trees that had to die for that waste of paper and for his fans that she f***ed over just in time for the 3rd anniversary.

To drag his mother into it, betraying his trust, is just beyond words.




I do believe it would be worth mentioning by Mayte about the birth of Amiir. Get the truth out there and stop the gossip about who is lying, Kim or Mayte. The other stuff, who cares? Those nanny sisters have always been flakes. I can’t even remember who else she talked about.

As for his mom, if all this is true no one will substantiate it, they’d get raked over the coals. If false, how would they know it’s false? So much deception involved in his life.
[Edited 4/22/19 10:31am]
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