GoldenParachute said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Was it reported in the Carver County documents that Lala had a separate mailbox? If your claim can be substantiated, that would be pretty convincing to me that she had a substantial relationship with Prince. Just like the reports from THREE Prince insiders who state categorically that Judith Hill was not his girlfriend. I would love to see a link to any such reports about Lala's separate mailbox. Please share.

I have a question, GoldenParachute: Why are you so worried about me? And, why do you want to see me banned? Moreover, why are you consistently bullying me and calling me demeaning names??? This must be what the Salem Witch Hunts were like.

Lastly, for the record, I have never once said that Andy was Prince's soulmate and I have never said that any other woman he was involved with was "unimportant." That is how lies start and spread.

Also, speaking of Andy...and on a more positive note...did you see her sing "Nothing More" at her StageIt concert Saturday? I think her latest rendition was even more soulful than usual. Some thought she might run away from singing that song since it was revealed in her leaked love letter that it was inspired by Prince. I'm glad she held her head high, was in good spirits, and belted out her classic ballad.

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Why does anything have to be convincing to YOU? Why do you think you are so important that something needs to pass by your judge and jury to be labeled truth? Why is it that you think you have Prince’s love life figured out at all? Because you think you are good at Blues Clues and think Prince left you hints? Do you not see your sickness? I cannot even read everything you write because it is SO insane. You have the same tired propaganda insanity of shoving Andy down peoples throats. FOR. MONTHS. You don’t see your unhealthy obsession with her? What does Andy being so important to Prince do for you? Tell us. Do you live vicariously through Andy? I believe you will find any reason to argue that your narrative of Prince’s love life is as you see it. You are in a fit of cognitive dissonance and you absolutely refuse to let anyone else persuade you from your fantasy. I saw you mention bullying in here. Guess what? You are every bit of it. Tell me, is picking apart other female protégée’s here and tearing them down, without having ANY real truth to grasp but your own guesses and delusions, constitute bullying? Are they here to defend themselves or give us the truth? Yet you ply away at every angle you can that strictly fits your perspective towards any female associate with Prince if it is suggested they are romantically tied to him. I have seen you say some pretty AWFUL things about other female associates that were suggested to even have a hint of romance with Prince. But tell us again how you are the victim, you aren’t a bully and you are a peaceful vibe. You absolutely SHRED any female associate who is not Andy. Passive aggressively or directly crude. What makes you think this is going to make people like Andy? One thing is certain, you are NOT the victim, you are the antagonist. You are a hypocrite and a fanatic who denies her own obsessive posting. You actually wrote “I do not come on here for months”. Who are you kidding?

Please cite just ONE example.

No, I wasn't suggesting the conversations about Prince's love life go into GD. I was simpy pointing out, in response to another discussion in this thread about trying to split apart "personal" tallk from "music/professional" talk, that such a split is in effect in the Non-Prince forum and it looks like people adhere to it.

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IF such a split were instituted in this section, the "love life" talk would probably be contained to a particular thread(s) not a separate section entirely (unless the mods wanted to start a whole separate section about Prince's love life).

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I'm not saying it would work well in this section to do that, just that the split-by-subject principle is in effect in that other section already.

poppys said:

disch said:

Well, because like this section, Music: Non-Prince focuses on musical people who aren't Prince, but there's a specific rule there that people can only talk about music-related topics; to discuss non-music topics about those artists, orgers are instructed to go elsewhere (in that case, the General Discussion area).

What makes sense about throwing Prince's personal associations into General Discussion? General Discussion is just that - general - not Prince related. Are you just trying to dump something into a forum you don't use? Do you ever post in GD?

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disch said:

No, I wasn't suggesting the conversations about Prince's love life go into GD. I was simpy pointing out, in response to another discussion in this thread about trying to split apart "personal" tallk from "music/professional" talk, that such a split is in effect in the Non-Prince forum and it looks like people adhere to it.

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IF such a split were instituted in this section, the "love life" talk would probably be contained to a particular thread(s) not a separate section entirely (unless the mods wanted to start a whole separate section about Prince's love life).

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I'm not saying it would work well in this section to do that, just that the split-by-subject principle is in effect in that other section already.

poppys said:

What makes sense about throwing Prince's personal associations into General Discussion? General Discussion is just that - general - not Prince related. Are you just trying to dump something into a forum you don't use? Do you ever post in GD?

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I still don't understand why there is so much talk of "containment" when it comes to discussions of Prince's relationships, especially when that is such a storied part of his legend and mystique. It's simply not possible to examine Prince's full story without looking closely at his relationships, both professional and romantic. Just as there were different hairstyles and fashions during different eras, there were also relationships. I have to wonder if the goal is really to "contain" the discussion of all of his relationships...or just some of them.

I think that containing the talk about his love life is for the same reason that the mods contain talk of other topics (no, not "censor." This is a message board and "censorship" doesn't really apply. And no, not to treat people like victims in the Salem Witch Trials. If someone really feels that posting here is like being hanged or burned alive, they should really find a new hobby!).

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This has already been explained to you a few times, and you become very angry about it but here it goes again: The idea around containing is to make this a welcoming enviroment for ALL orgers, not just those interested in one particular topic. I don't think it shows a lot of community spirit to say that you will create and keep alive thread after thread about the same topic, and demand that everyone else wade your particular favorite threads to find what they are looking for (or else see their threads fall down/off the page quickly).

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It's called being a considerate community member and thoughtful of everyone's varied interests (whether or not those interests have are centered around Prince's personal romantic and sexual habits). I'm perfectly willing to contain topics I'm interested in to one thread to make the community easier and more enjoyable for others. It's hard for me to understand why someone would refuse to do that.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

No, I wasn't suggesting the conversations about Prince's love life go into GD. I was simpy pointing out, in response to another discussion in this thread about trying to split apart "personal" tallk from "music/professional" talk, that such a split is in effect in the Non-Prince forum and it looks like people adhere to it.

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IF such a split were instituted in this section, the "love life" talk would probably be contained to a particular thread(s) not a separate section entirely (unless the mods wanted to start a whole separate section about Prince's love life).

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I'm not saying it would work well in this section to do that, just that the split-by-subject principle is in effect in that other section already.

I still don't understand why there is so much talk of "containment" when it comes to discussions of Prince's relationships, especially when that is such a storied part of his legend and mystique. It's simply not possible to examine Prince's full story without looking closely at his relationships, both professional and romantic. Just as there were different hairstyles and fashions during different eras, there were also relationships. I have to wonder if the goal is really to "contain" the discussion of all of his relationships...or just some of them.

disch said:

I think that containing the talk about his love life is for the same reason that the mods contain talk of other topics (no, not "censor." This is a message board and "censorship" doesn't really apply. And no, not to treat people like victims in the Salem Witch Trials. If someone really feels that posting here is like being hanged or burned alive, they should really find a new hobby!).

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This has already been explained to you a few times, and you become very angry about it but here it goes again: The idea around containing is to make this a welcoming enviroment for ALL orgers, not just those interested in one particular topic. I don't think it shows a lot of community spirit to say that you will create and keep alive thread after thread about the same topic, and demand that everyone else wade your particular favorite threads to find what they are looking for (or else see their threads fall down/off the page quickly).

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It's called being a considerate community member and thoughtful of everyone's varied interests (whether or not those interests have are centered around Prince's personal romantic and sexual habits). I'm perfectly willing to contain topics I'm interested in to one thread to make the community easier and more enjoyable for others. It's hard for me to understand why someone would refuse to do that.

FlyOnTheWall said:

I still don't understand why there is so much talk of "containment" when it comes to discussions of Prince's relationships, especially when that is such a storied part of his legend and mystique. It's simply not possible to examine Prince's full story without looking closely at his relationships, both professional and romantic. Just as there were different hairstyles and fashions during different eras, there were also relationships. I have to wonder if the goal is really to "contain" the discussion of all of his relationships...or just some of them.

For some reason, you have a tendency to mischaracterize me. I have never, ever written or inquired about Prince's "sexual habits." As I've said previously, I'm interested in relationships. And, when have I been "very angry"? I wrote in all caps during a recent exchange with benni, but I was not angry. I was exasperated...and I did not start that curious melee.

And, why does posting about my interests make me an "(in)considerate community member"? Everyone else posts about their interests. Are they not being considerate community members?

Also, for the record, before my threads about Prince and Andy were routinely locked and erased, I never had more than one active thread. But, eventually, as each one was removed, I started another one. I guess you could say that since there seems to be a determined effort to erase that particular Prince relationship, which was a major part of his last years and final musical output, it has made me all the more determined to document it here on Prince.org. For instance, most recently, even a wonderful Superconductor Appreciation Thread, centered around the music and lyrics--and started by someone else--was even removed. Why don't you speak out on that shameful phenomenon, disch?

Why are we beating around the bush here? Fly and her alters are blotting out the sun on every thread. Continuing to argue minutiae is co-dependent. Are posters/the site getting paid for clicks here? Because it will change my viewing style.

poppys said:

Why are we beating around the bush here? Fly and her alters are blotting out the sun on every thread. Continuing to argue minutiae is co-dependent. Are posters/the site getting paid for clicks here? Because it will change my viewing style.

I absolutely this beautiful foliaged tribute to Prince and his magnificent afro. It's a shame to see it used in such a toxic way.

[All links below work. Those not working have been fixed. When posting link ...

[ url ] thread link [ /url], backspace at the end to take out the underline and add [ /url ]

luv4u

Threads dedicated to Superconductor:

http://prince.org/msg/5/442038


http://prince.org/msg/7/430162


http://prince.org/msg/5/3...?&pg=7


Threads about Andy Allo and Prince:


http://prince.org/msg/7/4...7&pg=2


http://prince.org/msg/5/446753


http://prince.org/msg/7/410886


http://prince.org/msg/7/371874


http://prince.org/msg/5/382995


http://prince.org/msg/5/4...?&pg=3


http://prince.org/msg/5/442712


http://prince.org/msg/7/434254


And there are a ton more.

Don't think any one is trying to erase this history. Threads are from 2011 - 2017.

FlyOnTheWall said:

poppys said:

Why are we beating around the bush here? Fly and her alters are blotting out the sun on every thread. Continuing to argue minutiae is co-dependent. Are posters/the site getting paid for clicks here? Because it will change my viewing style.

I absolutely this beautiful foliaged tribute to Prince and his magnificent afro. It's a shame to see it used in such a toxic way.

YOU SUCK the life out of people, that's the shame.

benni said:

Threads dedicated to Superconductor:

http://prince.org/msg/5/442038


http://prince.org/msg/7/430162


http://prince.org/msg/5/3...?&pg=7


Threads about Andy Allo and Prince:


http://prince.org/msg/7/4...7&pg=2


http://prince.org/msg/5/446753


http://prince.org/msg/7/410886


http://prince.org/msg/7/371874


http://prince.org/msg/5/382995


http://prince.org/msg/5/4...?&pg=3


http://prince.org/msg/5/442712


http://prince.org/msg/7/434254


And there are a ton more.

Don't think any one is trying to erase this history. Threads are from 2011 - 2017.

The content of each thread is different. BTW, while you're at it, why don't you provide links to the ones that have been erased.

Update: Also, I just clicked on all the links and 4-5 of them are not accessible, as they are misdirected to some strange, unrelated page.

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[Access links on post 307 - luv4u]

FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

Threads dedicated to Superconductor:

http://prince.org/msg/5/442038


http://prince.org/msg/7/430162


http://prince.org/msg/5/3...?&pg=7" target="_blank">http://prince.org/msg/5/3...?&pg=7


Threads about Andy Allo and Prince:


http://prince.org/msg/7/4...7&pg=2


http://prince.org/msg/5/446753


http://prince.org/msg/7/410886


http://prince.org/msg/7/371874


http://prince.org/msg/5/382995


http://prince.org/msg/5/4...?&pg=3


http://prince.org/msg/5/442712


http://prince.org/msg/7/434254


And there are a ton more.

Don't think any one is trying to erase this history. Threads are from 2011 - 2017.

The content of each thread is different. BTW, while you're at it, why don't you provide links to the ones that have been erased.

You really just try to be difficult because you can, don't you?

The first link I posted under Andy and Prince from 2016:

" I wish he had followed his heart (and hers) and married her. But, to be sure, I don't buy into the notion that Prince wrote the entire album and just gave Andy credit, as many Orgers did at one time. There was even an entire thread dedicated to that notion a few years ago. I absolutely believe that she wrote the six songs that she is credited with and that Prince only co-wrote three songs. It is his PRODUCTION, not the writing, that makes it a Prince album. Huge difference." FlyOnTheWall

The second one from 2017 is titled: Kim confirms that Prince was dating Andy Allo at 16:00

The third one, from 2014, is titled: So, are Andy and Prince still dating?

The fourth one, from 2011, is titled: Does he really love Andy Allo or it's just a PR trick?

The fifth one, from 2012, is an interview in which she is asked about Prince. And the third response in the thread is: Looks like they are married. I like her wedding ring, it's lookign good. Congrats Prince!

The sixth one was a repeat, sorry. I didn't catch that it was the same thread as the one that Kim confirms Prince was dating Andy.

The seventh is a video of the day Prince and Andy met.

The eighth one is about the song The Story of you and I.


WIDE various topics there.

And I just clicked on all of them and they opened right up for me. I clicked on them to get the titles and/or subject matter.

benni said:

And I just clicked on all of them and they opened right up for me. I clicked on them to get the titles and/or subject matter.

I guess others can just click for themselves and see what happens. And, who knows: maybe, they won't be misdirected any longer. Presently, I can copy and paste the links into my browser--for one of the Superconductor threads and four Prince and Andy threads--and the thread will open, but if I click on the links, no such luck. Odds are, most people won't take that extra step unless forewarned.

Perhaps the Google Search at the top of the page?

I typed in Andy Allo and Prince and 10 pages came up.


https://cse.google.com/cs...gsc.page=1

This thread.....daayuum!!

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benni said:

Perhaps the Google Search at the top of the page?

I typed in Andy Allo and Prince and 10 pages came up.


https://cse.google.com/cs...gsc.page=1

You are deflecting. NONE of this has anything to do with the erased links.

FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

Perhaps the Google Search at the top of the page?

I typed in Andy Allo and Prince and 10 pages came up.


https://cse.google.com/cs...gsc.page=1

You are deflecting. NONE of this has anything to do with the erased links.

Fly, I think you miss the point.

You stated: " I guess you could say that since there seems to be a determined effort to erase that particular Prince relationship, which was a major part of his last years and final musical output, it has made me all the more determined to document it here on Prince.org."

I was showing that no one is trying to erase that history. So it's not the history that you are upset by, you really have no proof that anyone is trying to erase that history. What you are upset about are that some of the threads that you've started or engaged in has been erased. It has nothing to do with preserving the history, as you can see that the history is preserved.

benni said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

You are deflecting. NONE of this has anything to do with the erased links.

Fly, I think you miss the point.

You stated: " I guess you could say that since there seems to be a determined effort to erase that particular Prince relationship, which was a major part of his last years and final musical output, it has made me all the more determined to document it here on Prince.org."

I was showing that no one is trying to erase that history. So it's not the history that you are upset by, you really have no proof that anyone is trying to erase that history. What you are upset about are that some of the threads that you've started or engaged in has been erased. It has nothing to do with preserving the history, as you can see that the history is preserved.

Whatever, benni. BTW, it seems you are yet another moderator-like Orger to emerge on this thread. In any case, I don't need to waste my time going back and forth with you. People can read and see for themselves. Buh, bye.

FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

Threads dedicated to Superconductor:

http://prince.org/msg/5/442038


http://prince.org/msg/7/430162


http://prince.org/msg/5/3...?&pg=7


Threads about Andy Allo and Prince:


http://prince.org/msg/7/4...7&pg=2


http://prince.org/msg/5/446753


http://prince.org/msg/7/410886


http://prince.org/msg/7/371874


http://prince.org/msg/5/382995


http://prince.org/msg/5/4...?&pg=3


http://prince.org/msg/5/442712


http://prince.org/msg/7/434254


And there are a ton more.

Don't think any one is trying to erase this history. Threads are from 2011 - 2017.

The content of each thread is different. BTW, while you're at it, why don't you provide links to the ones that have been erased.

Update: Also, I just clicked on all the links and 4-5 of them are not accessible, as they are misdirected to some strange, unrelated page.

[Edited 5/15/18 14:30pm]

I was misdirected on a at least three of the links as well.

[Access links on post 307 - luv4u]

pinkcashmere23 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

The content of each thread is different. BTW, while you're at it, why don't you provide links to the ones that have been erased.

Update: Also, I just clicked on all the links and 4-5 of them are not accessible, as they are misdirected to some strange, unrelated page.

[Edited 5/15/18 14:30pm]

I was misdirected on a at least three of the links as well.

Not sure why, pink. I copied and pasted them straight from the google search after I opened each one to see what it was. And when I typed out what each one was about, I clicked the links and it took me straight to them. :-/

benni said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

I was misdirected on a at least three of the links as well.

Not sure why, pink. I copied and pasted them straight from the google search after I opened each one to see what it was. And when I typed out what each one was about, I clicked the links and it took me straight to them. :-/

I just tried them again and I'm being directed to a post about Graham Central,Chaka Khan and 1999 The New Master and a post about a Computer World lawsuit.

cloveringold85 said:

This thread.....daayuum!!

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i think prince gave a lot of women the impression that they were 'the one' even if he was just being friends.

threads of ALL sorts have been hidden and locked by moderators. For example, have been a ton of death-talk threads and I'd say most of them ended up being hidden (and not to consolidate them, i mean after there were lots of posts on them).

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And I participated on these hidden threads, but you know what? I don't really care that they got hidden. It's the moderators decision and that's the way it goes. This is a message board, and if the rules and actions of the moderators infuriated me that much, I'd just someplace else on this wide-open space we call the internet. Or I'd put the work into starting my own site/facebook group that could work just the way I like it! But, like most of us I suspect, I really don't want to do that kind of work.

FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:

Perhaps the Google Search at the top of the page?

I typed in Andy Allo and Prince and 10 pages came up.


https://cse.google.com/cs...gsc.page=1

You are deflecting. NONE of this has anything to do with the erased links.

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XxAxX said:

cloveringold85 said:

This thread.....daayuum!!

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i think prince gave a lot of women the impression that they were 'the one' even if he was just being friends.

What exactly are you referring to?

XxAxX said:

cloveringold85 said:

This thread.....daayuum!!

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i think prince gave a lot of women the impression that they were 'the one' even if he was just being friends.

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Oh, yea!! Without a doubt, LOL

poppys said:

XxAxX said:

i think prince gave a lot of women the impression that they were 'the one' even if he was just being friends.

What exactly are you referring to?

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.........The fact that Prince made every girl who was in his presence feel special. He had the ability to "read" women and understand them, which made him a chick-magnet, naturally!!

Yes that's a techincal issue when you link to pages within this site. There are sometimes problems with the links.

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OS4S put together a very similar list on the first post of the thread linked below You guys are still actively posting on this thread; did you forget completely how it started?

http://prince.org/msg/5/453701

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pinkcashmere23 said:

benni said:

Not sure why, pink. I copied and pasted them straight from the google search after I opened each one to see what it was. And when I typed out what each one was about, I clicked the links and it took me straight to them. :-/

I just tried them again and I'm being directed to a post about Graham Central,Chaka Khan and 1999 The New Master and a post about a Computer World lawsuit.

XxAxX said:

i think prince gave a lot of women the impression that they were 'the one' even if he was just being friends.

cloveringold85 said:

poppys said:

What exactly are you referring to?

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.........The fact that Prince made every girl who was in his presence feel special. He had the ability to "read" women and understand them, which made him a chick-magnet, naturally!!

So you are answering for XxAxX? How does this fit into the discussion about the constant thread hijacks ?

disch said:

Yes that's a techincal issue when you link to pages within this site. There are sometimes problems with the links.

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OS4S put together a very similar list on the first post of the thread linked below You guys are still actively posting on this thread; did you forget completely how it started?

http://prince.org/msg/5/453701

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pinkcashmere23 said:

I just tried them again and I'm being directed to a post about Graham Central,Chaka Khan and 1999 The New Master and a post about a Computer World lawsuit.

Yeah it's been happening for a while.

duplicate

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