poppys said:

XxAxX said:

i think prince gave a lot of women the impression that they were 'the one' even if he was just being friends.

cloveringold85 said:

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.........The fact that Prince made every girl who was in his presence feel special. He had the ability to "read" women and understand them, which made him a chick-magnet, naturally!!

So you are answering for XxAxX? How does this fit into the discussion about the constant thread hijacks ?

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Huh? XxAxX and I were talking, and I just replied to you, just to clarify what we meant, that's all.

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Relax.

cloveringold85 said:

poppys said:

XxAxX said:

i think prince gave a lot of women the impression that they were 'the one' even if he was just being friends.

So you are answering for XxAxX? How does this fit into the discussion about the constant thread hijacks ?

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Huh? XxAxX and I were talking, and I just replied to you, just to clarify what we meant, that's all.

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Relax.

Clarify? Relax? Bless your heart, lol. This isn't a private website. If you don't want to talk to me don't reply to me.

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I've been having problems posting an org link, within the Org. it does take you to some strange page.

PennyPurple said:

I've been having problems posting an org link, within the Org. it does take you to some strange page.

:-/ When you post them yourself, does it take you elsewhere or to the link you originally posted? I didn't have any trouble going to the links I posted, but obviously others are. But if they are interested in seeing the threads, I just typed "Andy Allo and Prince" in the search bar at the top and looked at the first prince.org threads that were coming up.

benni said:

PennyPurple said:

I've been having problems posting an org link, within the Org. it does take you to some strange page.

:-/ When you post them yourself, does it take you elsewhere or to the link you originally posted? I didn't have any trouble going to the links I posted, but obviously others are. But if they are interested in seeing the threads, I just typed "Andy Allo and Prince" in the search bar at the top and looked at the first prince.org threads that were coming up.

Yes, they work through the Google search.

benni said:

PennyPurple said:

I've been having problems posting an org link, within the Org. it does take you to some strange page.

:-/ When you post them yourself, does it take you elsewhere or to the link you originally posted? I didn't have any trouble going to the links I posted, but obviously others are. But if they are interested in seeing the threads, I just typed "Andy Allo and Prince" in the search bar at the top and looked at the first prince.org threads that were coming up.

When I post them myself and then I check the links it takes me to some wacko place here on the org. It happened again the other day to me, I think it was on the Chris Brown thread. I can post a link from another web page and it works fine, but I try to post a thread link and it doesn't work.

UK availability of GCS2000 and 1999: The New Master

This is what I got when I try to post a link to an org thread.

PennyPurple said:

UK availability of GCS2000 and 1999: The New Master

This is what I got when I try to post a link to an org thread.

Very strange. I think they need to fix this bug!

poppys said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Huh? XxAxX and I were talking, and I just replied to you, just to clarify what we meant, that's all.

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Relax.

Clarify? Relax? Bless your heart, lol. This isn't a private website. If you don't want to talk to me don't reply to me.

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Excuse me? You were asking XxAxX what we meant, and then I explained it to you, because it seemed as though you didn't understand what we meant.

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What's your problem?

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Re-read what you said below and my response -- Did I say anything offensive to you??

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XxAxX said:

i think prince gave a lot of women the impression that they were 'the one' even if he was just being friends.

cloveringold85 said:

poppys said:

What exactly are you referring to?

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.........The fact that Prince made every girl who was in his presence feel special. He had the ability to "read" women and understand them, which made him a chick-magnet, naturally!!

So you are answering for XxAxX? How does this fit into the discussion about the constant thread hijacks ?

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benni said:

I think there needs to be another forum: Prince and the Women He Loved

Leave Associated artists & people as "ex-bandmembers, ex-employees, people he collaborated with" instead of "ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends, etc..."

It is hard to come to this forum to look for information on band members when the number of threads discussing Prince's love life, who Prince loved more, which woman was The One, etc., seems to be the majority of threads over here.

Much of what is talked about in each of the threads involving the exes are the same pictures, the same articles, getting rehashed in each thread as proof to show this is who he loved more.

Personally, I think each of the women brought something to Prince and made him happy while they were together, and none of them were the LOVE of his life. I think they all were loved deeply at various times. I think he continued to care for all of them after the relationships ended, in the same way that we tend to care for those that we were involved with, after the relationships ended. At first, there may be some anger, confusion, and hurt feelings, but as time goes on, those feelings eventually mellow out and we tend to remember the better times more than we do the bad. We don't spend our lives (or at least I hope no one does, because that would be a very painful existence) lamenting the loss of the one that got away and pining after them for the rest of our lives. We may think of them from time to time, but we let them go and we move on with our lives and we meet someone else who we give all of our love to. The whole idea that Prince spent his time pining after this woman or that, that he never moved on from this woman or that one, I don't know how anyone could wish that kind of torment and pain on Prince. And if he were to have done that, that's not love, that's obsession and that is not healthy (nor romantic).

It's like the whole Mani episode, a lot of people blame Mani for the split from Mayte because she moved in on a married man. It takes two to tangle. If Prince were not open to cheating on Mayte, then Mani wouldn't have gotten close to him. Period. He was not innocent in that scenario. And Vanity/Denise was heavy into drugs, and if you've ever been around anyone that uses drugs like that, they have very unhealthy relationships. And Mayte was young when they met and was not fully developed emotionally, nor mentally, and as we all do, we change as we grow up and discover who we want to be as an adult. Those relationships from youth tend to be very emotional, needy, dependent, until we gain the maturity of handling a real relationship and it becomes more refined. None of the relationships Prince had were perfect. Each of them had their issues and Prince wasn't innocent. But people want to romanticize the women that Prince dated, married, had sex with. Prince was someone, when he moved on, he moved on. Too bad his fans couldn't.

Very well said benni. I agree with all of your thoughts here. However, I think because Prince communicated mainly through his music, and often used it to directly speak to those he had relations with - good or bad, many are intrigued by what those relationships were to him, and what his thoughts were about them.

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You mentioned as an example some feeling that Mayte was "the one" and Manuela is to blame for that breakup. But then you hear a song like "Strange But True" a song he wrote at the end of their marriage which speaks to "the one he gave it to and the hole he's been trying to fill with another has now grown" - and one can't help but be intrigued about who he communicating to in that song.

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So, it's Prince's fault The genius of his music has caused many of his fans/friends to try to put the puzzle pieces together, and also debate where those pieces should fit.

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PennyPurple said:

UK availability of GCS2000 and 1999: The New Master

This is what I got when I try to post a link to an org thread.

What's the link? Orgnote me.

cloveringold85 said:

What's your problem?

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Re-read what you said below and my response -- Did I say anything offensive to you??

I replied to xxXxx with a question. You replied to me with your "answer" to the question I asked her. I did not understand your answer so I asked you what you meant. Then you said you weren't really replying to me, just clarifying?, and told me to Relax. Makes no sense at all.

The Associate Artist Forum Refocus info is almost complete

OldFriends4Sale said:

The Associate Artist Forum Refocus info is almost complete

benni said:

PennyPurple said:

UK availability of GCS2000 and 1999: The New Master

This is what I got when I try to post a link to an org thread.

Very strange. I think they need to fix this bug!

It's weird.

[Edited 5/15/18 18:13pm]

OldFriends4Sale said:

The Associate Artist Forum Refocus info is almost complete

Refocus?

Why not just allow 1 thread per associate at a time, for everything, the good, the bad, and the ugly?

violetcrush said:

benni said:

I think there needs to be another forum: Prince and the Women He Loved

Leave Associated artists & people as "ex-bandmembers, ex-employees, people he collaborated with" instead of "ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends, etc..."

It is hard to come to this forum to look for information on band members when the number of threads discussing Prince's love life, who Prince loved more, which woman was The One, etc., seems to be the majority of threads over here.

Much of what is talked about in each of the threads involving the exes are the same pictures, the same articles, getting rehashed in each thread as proof to show this is who he loved more.

Personally, I think each of the women brought something to Prince and made him happy while they were together, and none of them were the LOVE of his life. I think they all were loved deeply at various times. I think he continued to care for all of them after the relationships ended, in the same way that we tend to care for those that we were involved with, after the relationships ended. At first, there may be some anger, confusion, and hurt feelings, but as time goes on, those feelings eventually mellow out and we tend to remember the better times more than we do the bad. We don't spend our lives (or at least I hope no one does, because that would be a very painful existence) lamenting the loss of the one that got away and pining after them for the rest of our lives. We may think of them from time to time, but we let them go and we move on with our lives and we meet someone else who we give all of our love to. The whole idea that Prince spent his time pining after this woman or that, that he never moved on from this woman or that one, I don't know how anyone could wish that kind of torment and pain on Prince. And if he were to have done that, that's not love, that's obsession and that is not healthy (nor romantic).

It's like the whole Mani episode, a lot of people blame Mani for the split from Mayte because she moved in on a married man. It takes two to tangle. If Prince were not open to cheating on Mayte, then Mani wouldn't have gotten close to him. Period. He was not innocent in that scenario. And Vanity/Denise was heavy into drugs, and if you've ever been around anyone that uses drugs like that, they have very unhealthy relationships. And Mayte was young when they met and was not fully developed emotionally, nor mentally, and as we all do, we change as we grow up and discover who we want to be as an adult. Those relationships from youth tend to be very emotional, needy, dependent, until we gain the maturity of handling a real relationship and it becomes more refined. None of the relationships Prince had were perfect. Each of them had their issues and Prince wasn't innocent. But people want to romanticize the women that Prince dated, married, had sex with. Prince was someone, when he moved on, he moved on. Too bad his fans couldn't.

Very well said benni. I agree with all of your thoughts here. However, I think because Prince communicated mainly through his music, and often used it to directly speak to those he had relations with - good or bad, many are intrigued by what those relationships were to him, and what his thoughts were about them.

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You mentioned as an example some feeling that Mayte was "the one" and Manuela is to blame for that breakup. But then you hear a song like "Strange But True" a song he wrote at the end of their marriage which speaks to "the one he gave it to and the hole he's been trying to fill with another has now grown" - and one can't help but be intrigued about who he communicating to in that song.

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So, it's Prince's fault The genius of his music has caused many of his fans/friends to try to put the puzzle pieces together, and also debate where those pieces should fit.

[Edited 5/15/18 17:32pm]

[Edited 5/15/18 18:24pm]

FlyOnTheWall said:

violetcrush said:

Very well said benni. I agree with all of your thoughts here. However, I think because Prince communicated mainly through his music, and often used it to directly speak to those he had relations with - good or bad, many are intrigued by what those relationships were to him, and what his thoughts were about them.

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You mentioned as an example some feeling that Mayte was "the one" and Manuela is to blame for that breakup. But then you hear a song like "Strange But True" a song he wrote at the end of their marriage which speaks to "the one he gave it to and the hole he's been trying to fill with another has now grown" - and one can't help but be intrigued about who he communicating to in that song.

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So, it's Prince's fault The genius of his music has caused many of his fans/friends to try to put the puzzle pieces together, and also debate where those pieces should fit.

[Edited 5/15/18 17:32pm]

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I agree.

PennyPurple said:

benni said:

Very strange. I think they need to fix this bug!

It's weird.

[Edited 5/15/18 18:13pm]

See post 307 only.

The links that were not working are now working. Use the above post to access.

PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The Associate Artist Forum Refocus info is almost complete

Refocus?

Why not just allow 1 thread per associate at a time, for everything, the good, the bad, and the ugly?

Just wait until we present it

violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

Refocus?

Why not just allow 1 thread per associate at a time, for everything, the good, the bad, and the ugly?

Just wait until we present it

Ohhh yesssss

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

Refocus?

Why not just allow 1 thread per associate at a time, for everything, the good, the bad, and the ugly?

Just wait until we present it

luv4u said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Just wait until we present it

Ohhh yesssss

lol - that reminded me of my daughter when she was little:

benni said:

luv4u said:

Ohhh yesssss

lol - that reminded me of my daughter when she was little:

That's so cute Benni!

If someone wants to spend hours and hours mooning over which woman he was sending secret mash notes to in his lyrics, that's their choice; don't put the blame for that on Prince, who never ever said or implied that's what he wanted people to take from his life's work.

NotACleverName said:

violetcrush said:

Very well said benni. I agree with all of your thoughts here. However, I think because Prince communicated mainly through his music, and often used it to directly speak to those he had relations with - good or bad, many are intrigued by what those relationships were to him, and what his thoughts were about them. You mentioned as an example some feeling that Mayte was "the one" and Manuela is to blame for that breakup. But then you hear a song like "Strange But True" a song he wrote at the end of their marriage which speaks to "the one he gave it to and the hole he's been trying to fill with another has now grown" - and one can't help but be intrigued about who he communicating to in that song. So, it's Prince's fault The genius of his music has caused many of his fans/friends to try to put the puzzle pieces together, and also debate where those pieces should fit.[Edited 5/15/18 17:32pm]

Nope. Not intrigued at all.

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disch said:

If someone wants to spend hours and hours mooning over which woman he was sending secret mash notes to in his lyrics, that's their choice; don't put the blame for that on Prince, who never ever said or implied that's what he wanted people to take from his life's work.

NotACleverName said:

violetcrush said: Nope. Not intrigued at all.

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I think that some lyrics weren't meant for the listener but for the one that the song was about.As Prince would sometimes say about a song "She knows." Strange But True does seem to be addressing someone directly and songs like that naturally instill curiosity. I don't do that with every song but some lyrics seem very personal and cause me to wonder who inspired them.

NotACleverName said:

violetcrush said:

Very well said benni. I agree with all of your thoughts here. However, I think because Prince communicated mainly through his music, and often used it to directly speak to those he had relations with - good or bad, many are intrigued by what those relationships were to him, and what his thoughts were about them. You mentioned as an example some feeling that Mayte was "the one" and Manuela is to blame for that breakup. But then you hear a song like "Strange But True" a song he wrote at the end of their marriage which speaks to "the one he gave it to and the hole he's been trying to fill with another has now grown" - and one can't help but be intrigued about who he communicating to in that song. So, it's Prince's fault The genius of his music has caused many of his fans/friends to try to put the puzzle pieces together, and also debate where those pieces should fit.[Edited 5/15/18 17:32pm]

Nope. Not intrigued at all.

Really??? Wow, that is surprising. Especially reading an interview with his Engineer Hans who stated he had to fight to get that song included on the Rave album. Prince thought it was too personal to release. I think it ties in with many of his "love lost" songs throughout the 90's, but of course, just my opinion. I digress.....

If he made the song public (on a record or in performance) it was meant for the listener. Just like ANY artist who produces art and puts it out to the world.

pinkcashmere23 said:

disch said:

If someone wants to spend hours and hours mooning over which woman he was sending secret mash notes to in his lyrics, that's their choice; don't put the blame for that on Prince, who never ever said or implied that's what he wanted people to take from his life's work.

[Edited 5/15/18 20:05pm]

I think that some lyrics weren't meant for the listener but for the one that the song was about.As Prince would sometimes say about a song "She knows." Strange But True does seem to be addressing someone directly and songs like that naturally instill curiosity. I don't do that with every song but some lyrics seem very personal and cause me to wonder who inspired them.

disch said:

If he made the song public (on a record or in performance) it was meant for the listener. Just like ANY artist who produces art and puts it out to the world.

pinkcashmere23 said:

I think that some lyrics weren't meant for the listener but for the one that the song was about.As Prince would sometimes say about a song "She knows." Strange But True does seem to be addressing someone directly and songs like that naturally instill curiosity. I don't do that with every song but some lyrics seem very personal and cause me to wonder who inspired them.

Yes, but Prince said himself that some songs were written about someone in particular and he would occasionally reveal that, such as in the online chat when someone asked who Forever In My Life was about and he replied Susannah. I believe I remember him mentioning in the notes for Crystal Ball that the woman who he wrote The Ride for was present at the performance that is on the album and said "She knows." Anna Garcia said that Prince would gift her with songs such as Pink Cashmere and Anna Waiting.Other women have said the same and that he would leave clues in the lyrics so they would know he was referring to them.