I read her twitter feed (sorry Jill for stalking) and she is firing insults on Trump cronies twitter feeds etc. . I don't really even disagree with her (her politics are mostly in line with my own--apologies to conservatives on the board, but I am just being honest) , but she is going to give herself a damn stroke if she doesn't calm down. She is also pretty angry about hte Prince investigation obviously. Some of her more vulgar insults are kind of funny though..I have to say.

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She needs anger management. I had to tune her out.

I think it would be best if Jill came off Twitter. It's like she's addicted 2 it. Concentrate on performing and making music. At least that is positive.

again?

purplerabbithole said:

I read her twitter feed (sorry Jill for stalking) and she is firing insults on Trump cronies twitter feeds etc. . I don't really even disagree with her (her politics are mostly in line with my own--apologies to conservatives on the board, but I am just being honest) , but she is going to give herself a damn stroke if she doesn't calm down. She is also pretty angry about hte Prince investigation obviously. Some of her more vulgar insults are kind of funny though..I have to say.

*** MOD NOTE ***

"If you have nothing positive to post then don't post it at all. Keep all discussion civil. Anyone turning this thread into a bashing session will be dealt with accordingly. Any issues concerning the Estate or the Investigation must be discussed in the appropriate threads/forums. No more derailing of threads."

I am more "old school" - don't get into Twitter. What is her issue with the investigation?

She is perpetually perturbed. She's not happy and she doesn't want anyone else to be happy either. It's a terrible waste of life. You miss all the good stuff.

I am not bashing Jill. It is just an observance. I actually like Jill for the most part.

purplerabbithole said:

I read her twitter feed (sorry Jill for stalking) and she is firing insults on Trump cronies twitter feeds etc. . I don't really even disagree with her (her politics are mostly in line with my own--apologies to conservatives on the board, but I am just being honest) , but she is going to give herself a damn stroke if she doesn't calm down. She is also pretty angry about hte Prince investigation obviously. Some of her more vulgar insults are kind of funny though..I have to say.

*** MOD NOTE ***

"If you have nothing positive to post then don't post it at all. Keep all discussion civil. Anyone turning this thread into a bashing session will be dealt with accordingly. Any issues concerning the Estate or the Investigation must be discussed in the appropriate threads/forums. No more derailing of threads."

Her issue is with the cops not getting the computer in time and she is disgusted by Phaedra, Meron, and Kirk and presumably others.

violetcrush said:

purplerabbithole said:

I read her twitter feed (sorry Jill for stalking) and she is firing insults on Trump cronies twitter feeds etc. . I don't really even disagree with her (her politics are mostly in line with my own--apologies to conservatives on the board, but I am just being honest) , but she is going to give herself a damn stroke if she doesn't calm down. She is also pretty angry about hte Prince investigation obviously. Some of her more vulgar insults are kind of funny though..I have to say.

*** MOD NOTE ***

"If you have nothing positive to post then don't post it at all. Keep all discussion civil. Anyone turning this thread into a bashing session will be dealt with accordingly. Any issues concerning the Estate or the Investigation must be discussed in the appropriate threads/forums. No more derailing of threads."

I am more "old school" - don't get into Twitter. What is her issue with the investigation?

She's a miserable woman. It has to be exhausting to be soooo outraged and lashing out all the time. I feel bad for her that's she's so full of anger; her life must be very unhappy.

LilaLiebe said:

She's a miserable woman. It has to be exhausting to be soooo outraged and lashing out all the time. I feel bad for her that's she's so full of anger; her life must be very unhappy.

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I can't believe someone can be so miserable! My God!! She needs to stop and smell the coffee. Life is precious!

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If she is upset with Kirk, Meron or Phaedra, then she needs to take it up with them, and if she has info she wants to share, she needs to contact the authorities!

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She needs to stop going on social media, because she's looking very childish. She knows Prince didn't like all this drama either.

She's angry. That's fine, it's her platform and she can say whatever she wants. I may not always agree with what she says, but I do admire that she is no shrinking violet. Strong women are all that and then some

post em here so we dont have to bother going there...

Mumio said:

NotACleverName said:

Mumio said:

She's angry. That's fine, it's her platform and she can say whatever she wants. I may not always agree with what she says, but I do admire that she is no shrinking violet. Strong women are all that and then some

I agree that it is her platform and how she uses her voice is her choice; however, there are ways to present a strong presence w/o coming across as angry (which she does, imo). There are plenty of examples of strong women who get their point across, affect change, etc. w/o offending or shaming.

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Jill is very abrasive. Anger is very self-destructive. People should be concerned for her and not encouraging that type of behavior, imo.

purplerabbithole said:

Her issue is with the cops not getting the computer in time and she is disgusted by Phaedra, Meron, and Kirk and presumably others.

violetcrush said:

I am more "old school" - don't get into Twitter. What is her issue with the investigation?

Yep

NotACleverName said:

Mumio said:

She's angry. That's fine, it's her platform and she can say whatever she wants. I may not always agree with what she says, but I do admire that she is no shrinking violet. Strong women are all that and then some

I agree that it is her platform and how she uses her voice is her choice; however, there are ways to present a strong presence w/o coming across as angry (which she does, imo). There are plenty of examples of strong women who get their point across, affect change, etc. w/o offending or shaming.

So what???? She IS angry so why is it wrong that she is coming across as such???? There is nothing wrong with expressing passion for what you feel!

Aren't you all a bit angry with Phaedra, Meron and Kirk? And we didn't even know Prince, so just imagine how someone who knew him feels? I think it is rather disgusting that Phaedra and Meron lawyered up so quickly and Phaedra wouldn't even speak with investigators and Meron gave what, 1 interview? I know that eventually you have to let go of the anger, but I feel her.

cloveringold85 said:

NotACleverName said:

Mumio said: I agree that it is her platform and how she uses her voice is her choice; however, there are ways to present a strong presence w/o coming across as angry (which she does, imo). There are plenty of examples of strong women who get their point across, affect change, etc. w/o offending or shaming.

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Jill is very abrasive. Anger is very self-destructive. People should be concerned for her and not encouraging that type of behavior, imo.

No, it's not. It's better for someone who is angry to express it than hold it in and PRETEND to feel some other way. Strong emotions should always be expressed no matter what others think. What are you talking about????

Mumio said:

NotACleverName said:

Mumio said:

So what???? She IS angry so why is it wrong that she is coming across as such???? There is nothing wrong with expressing passion for what you feel!

Passion and anger are two different emotions, Mumio. Maybe it's just me, but when someone is coming from a place of anger, I tend to discount anything they say and will choose not to listen. Could be that I might be missing some valuable information. Might be worthwhile to consider the following approach: Proverb "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" It is easier to persuade others with polite requests and a positive attitude rather than with rude demands and negativity

Like Jill, you are entitled to feel and speak however you want to. I don't think Jill really cares if she is coming across in another way, and that is her right. She's expressing how she feels and I don't get the sense that she cares what others think about that. More power to her for not following social niceties in order to be acceptable

Anger IS a valid emotion. There are things in life that do make us angry, and rightly so. The thing with anger, though, is that you cannot allow it to control you. If you lash out all of the time, it's controlling you. If you withhold it all the time, afraid to express it, it's controlling you. As with all things, there is a balance that one achieves when they rightly and justly express anger, and through withholding it. You don't cling to that anger, you let it come and go.

I used to follow Jill on FB and finally had to unfollow her. I adore her, love her voice as a singer. But it seemed difficult for me to reconcile the spiritual side of her, which she tries to express, with a lot of the cursing and angry outbursts she'd display on FB. There wasn't really a balance there, but I did see a lot of pain and hurt behind her anger outbursts. I also saw a lot of passion and a fearlessness against standing up and speaking out at what she sees as injustices. She's definitely not afraid to speak to her mind. I just couldn't deal with it all the time. To me, truly spiritual people evolve past the need to curse consistently and to be angry all the time.

But having said that, it is her right to speak her mind and state what she feels and believes. And it's our right to decide what we allow ourselves to take in and witness. I still adore her, still love her voice, her art, but I have enough negativity in my life, enough stress, without having to take in someone else's on my down time.

Mumio said:

NotACleverName said:

Mumio said: I agree that it is her platform and how she uses her voice is her choice; however, there are ways to present a strong presence w/o coming across as angry (which she does, imo). There are plenty of examples of strong women who get their point across, affect change, etc. w/o offending or shaming.

So what???? She IS angry so why is it wrong that she is coming across as such???? There is nothing wrong with expressing passion for what you feel!

U KNOW I adore U, but Jill has issues. She's been carrying for a LONG time, and it is not healthy.

When you have misdirected anger and lashing out at innocent people, it is not passion but wrath.

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All that wrath turning around inside you will kill you. She needs avenues to express herself concerning things that help bring resolve. But FB rants is just not going to do anything but keep you in the tabloid news.

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Her anger at the Revolution was and is misdirected 100%. If they are so fake why would you want to be asked to sing with them to begin with? I think I told you in private what the real issue was. She went as far as to say things like 'Wendy was not on Irresistable Bitch, that was Sheila E!!' and it was her anger that had her mind clouded, because she was mixing up Erotic City & Irresistable Bitch. And when I laughed at Paulludvig who hates the Melvoins, who believing it, reposted it, someone who was on the Org and on her FB page pointed it out, and she didn't even know the context of what was said. She just went the fuck off. People only saw 'part' of it. And when I talked to her, it was clear she didn't even know what or why she was going off about. And didn't realize that people took what she said and ran with it before she was corrected.
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Jill was co signing all kinds of crazy twitter and blog pages. I remember when some prejudiced person who did that anti-Mayte page. And the person made crazy race insinuated comments about the Purple Rain Deluxe ... Susan Rogers talking about Jill being in the kitchen (and they BLEW THAT UP LIKE CRAZY) relating being 'in the kitchen' to segregation.it was clear Jill and people who cosigned it did NOT read it. They read absolutely nothing. And was 100% wrong on everything they said.

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And prior to Prince passing, that unresolved anger, was lashing out on her FB page directed totally at PRince. Everyone is going after Sinead OConnor right now, but a few years before Prince passed when Sinead made the comment again, Jill Jones cosigned her on her FB page, and at another time when commenting about Chris Brown, she said Prince was the same.

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Hey I too, STILL adore Jill Jones for her time in the purple camp. I still champion her in that. But when you lash out at people it only hurts your 'brand'. Passion is one thing, but unchecked anger will have you rolling around on the ground in public fighting someone with your 'business' showing.

endiadj said:

It's her social media account, so she can say what she wants to say. Crazy how others seek out someone's words just to criticize them.

No, don't do that. Don't put on purple sunglasses and glaze over the obvious in lieu of a filtered view of things. This is not one of those rainbows and unicorn moments.

What you said is simply untrue. No one is seeking out words just for the sake of criticizing them. When someone puts out such consistent vitriol and a public forum then it has to be critiqued like anything else in the public. If she didn't want her shit gone over, don't put it out in public, or lock down the Twitter account to private. It's like walking outside naked, then being upset because you either get arrested or pointed at and laughed at for it. Don't fucking do it.

Folks can be in the exact same situation but have a totally different experience. Sort of like being in a car crash. 4 people in the car, all got t-boned by a drunk driver. One died, one is paralyzed, one is in a coma and one walks away with some bruises. Same situation, different experiences. This is true about anyone around Prince. Jill's anger is hers to own, though. Instead of just having a difference of opinion, she attacks on such a personal level, dismissing people's almost-lifelong ability to play music, work with Prince, or whatever.

Jill comes across as a very angry person. She's gone in on Susannah, members of the Revolution and anyone else who does not fit her idea of what Prince was as a person. Granted, she had a lot of access to him, probably fucked him for a while, and was maybe even in love with him. But she comes out of the gates like an angrier version of Sheila E. She's a know-it-all and anyone that disagrees with her is just wrong (comparing how Sheila sometimes comes across as the default "I knew him best" spokesperson). The fact is everyone that worked with Prince has their version of reality because their experience with him was different. Of course, there are commonalities.

Jill's problem is that she can't challenge a situation without making so incredibly personal. She can't own her shit from the past, and maybe - just maybe - she has regrets about some things and is now lashing out to distract from it. Maybe she's suffering trauma from something else and it is playing out in some other way on Twitter. I don't know. I hope she finds the help and comfort she needs to rise above it and find the other side of peace and happiness.

TrivialPursuit said:

No, don't do that. Don't put on purple sunglasses and glaze over the obvious in lieu of a filtered view of things. This is not one of those rainbows and unicorn moments.

What you said is simply untrue. No one is seeking out words just for the sake of criticizing them. When someone puts out such consistent vitriol and a public forum then it has to be critiqued like anything else in the public. If she didn't want her shit gone over, don't put it out in public, or lock down the Twitter account to private. It's like walking outside naked, then being upset because you either get arrested or pointed at and laughed at for it. Don't fucking do it.

Folks can be in the exact same situation but have a totally different experience. Sort of like being in a car crash. 4 people in the car, all got t-boned by a drunk driver. One died, one is paralyzed, one is in a coma and one walks away with some bruises. Same situation, different experiences. This is true about anyone around Prince. Jill's anger is hers to own, though. Instead of just having a difference of opinion, she attacks on such a personal level, dismissing people's almost-lifelong ability to play music, work with Prince, or whatever.

Jill comes across as a very angry person. She's gone in on Susannah, members of the Revolution and anyone else who does not fit her idea of what Prince was as a person. Granted, she had a lot of access to him, probably fucked him for a while, and was maybe even in love with him. But she comes out of the gates like an angrier version of Sheila E. She's a know-it-all and anyone that disagrees with her is just wrong (comparing how Sheila sometimes comes across as the default "I knew him best" spokesperson). The fact is everyone that worked with Prince has their version of reality because their experience with him was different. Of course, there are commonalities.

Jill's problem is that she can't challenge a situation without making so incredibly personal. She can't own her shit from the past, and maybe - just maybe - she has regrets about some things and is now lashing out to distract from it. Maybe she's suffering trauma from something else and it is playing out in some other way on Twitter. I don't know. I hope she finds the help and comfort she needs to rise above it and find the other side of peace and happiness.

Great, thoughtful post. Very well stated.

NotACleverName said:

Mumio said:

So what???? She IS angry so why is it wrong that she is coming across as such???? There is nothing wrong with expressing passion for what you feel!

Passion and anger are two different emotions, Mumio. Maybe it's just me, but when someone is coming from a place of anger, I tend to discount anything they say and will choose not to listen. Could be that I might be missing some valuable information. Might be worthwhile to consider the following approach: Proverb "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" It is easier to persuade others with polite requests and a positive attitude rather than with rude demands and negativity

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Thank you, NotAClever!

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I love this quote from Buddha:

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Holding onto anger is like holding a hot stone in your hand -- you are the one who gets burned.

malbena said:

Disturbing! I am worried about her mental health. Needs professional counsel and very possibly medication.

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I agree; it's not a healthy way to live your life. Someone at her age should not be so angry and miserable. She needs to direct her pain/emotions/anger in a more positive way. If she's not already in therapy, she really needs to do so!! If you do not let go of anger, it will destroy you.

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It's one thing to express yourself and be vocal about it, but it's entirely another thing when you are hurting yourself and taking others down with you.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Mumio said:

So what???? She IS angry so why is it wrong that she is coming across as such???? There is nothing wrong with expressing passion for what you feel!

U KNOW I adore U, but Jill has issues. She's been carrying for a LONG time, and it is not healthy.

When you have misdirected anger and lashing out at innocent people, it is not passion but wrath.

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All that wrath turning around inside you will kill you. She needs avenues to express herself concerning things that help bring resolve. But FB rants is just not going to do anything but keep you in the tabloid news.

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Her anger at the Revolution was and is misdirected 100%. If they are so fake why would you want to be asked to sing with them to begin with? I think I told you in private what the real issue was. She went as far as to say things like 'Wendy was not on Irresistable Bitch, that was Sheila E!!' and it was her anger that had her mind clouded, because she was mixing up Erotic City & Irresistable Bitch. And when I laughed at Paulludvig who hates the Melvoins, who believing it, reposted it, someone who was on the Org and on her FB page pointed it out, and she didn't even know the context of what was said. She just went the fuck off. People only saw 'part' of it. And when I talked to her, it was clear she didn't even know what or why she was going off about. And didn't realize that people took what she said and ran with it before she was corrected.
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Jill was co signing all kinds of crazy twitter and blog pages. I remember when some prejudiced person who did that anti-Mayte page. And the person made crazy race insinuated comments about the Purple Rain Deluxe ... Susan Rogers talking about Jill being in the kitchen (and they BLEW THAT UP LIKE CRAZY) relating being 'in the kitchen' to segregation.it was clear Jill and people who cosigned it did NOT read it. They read absolutely nothing. And was 100% wrong on everything they said.

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And prior to Prince passing, that unresolved anger, was lashing out on her FB page directed totally at PRince. Everyone is going after Sinead OConnor right now, but a few years before Prince passed when Sinead made the comment again, Jill Jones cosigned her on her FB page, and at another time when commenting about Chris Brown, she said Prince was the same.

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Hey I too, STILL adore Jill Jones for her time in the purple camp. I still champion her in that. But when you lash out at people it only hurts your 'brand'. Passion is one thing, but unchecked anger will have you rolling around on the ground in public fighting someone with your 'business' showing.

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You said it, perfectly!!

TrivialPursuit said:

endiadj said:

It's her social media account, so she can say what she wants to say. Crazy how others seek out someone's words just to criticize them.

No, don't do that. Don't put on purple sunglasses and glaze over the obvious in lieu of a filtered view of things. This is not one of those rainbows and unicorn moments.

What you said is simply untrue. No one is seeking out words just for the sake of criticizing them. When someone puts out such consistent vitriol and a public forum then it has to be critiqued like anything else in the public. If she didn't want her shit gone over, don't put it out in public, or lock down the Twitter account to private. It's like walking outside naked, then being upset because you either get arrested or pointed at and laughed at for it. Don't fucking do it.

Folks can be in the exact same situation but have a totally different experience. Sort of like being in a car crash. 4 people in the car, all got t-boned by a drunk driver. One died, one is paralyzed, one is in a coma and one walks away with some bruises. Same situation, different experiences. This is true about anyone around Prince. Jill's anger is hers to own, though. Instead of just having a difference of opinion, she attacks on such a personal level, dismissing people's almost-lifelong ability to play music, work with Prince, or whatever.

Jill comes across as a very angry person. She's gone in on Susannah, members of the Revolution and anyone else who does not fit her idea of what Prince was as a person. Granted, she had a lot of access to him, probably fucked him for a while, and was maybe even in love with him. But she comes out of the gates like an angrier version of Sheila E. She's a know-it-all and anyone that disagrees with her is just wrong (comparing how Sheila sometimes comes across as the default "I knew him best" spokesperson). The fact is everyone that worked with Prince has their version of reality because their experience with him was different. Of course, there are commonalities.

Jill's problem is that she can't challenge a situation without making so incredibly personal. She can't own her shit from the past, and maybe - just maybe - she has regrets about some things and is now lashing out to distract from it. Maybe she's suffering trauma from something else and it is playing out in some other way on Twitter. I don't know. I hope she finds the help and comfort she needs to rise above it and find the other side of peace and happiness.

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I could not agree with you more on this one!!

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I think Jill has a hard time letting things go. That used to be me. I had to learn the hard way to let go of certain people and situations in my life, because if I didn't, I would end up miserable and never moving on, and never being the person that God intended me to be!

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I am a big quote person, and this is another quote that I love:

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"When things don't change around YOU, then YOU have to change!"

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I can see Prince and Jill butting heads a lot, because they are both very strong individuals. I think Prince was better at moving on and not letting people get the best of him though.