We need to stop post stuff Jill Jones said on her FB page Jebus!!!

luv4u said:

I think I will do just that too I feel as if this thread too will be heading to lock, unfortunately. It was interesting reading up until a certain point.

poppys said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Why would that matter?

Trying to figure out if your maturity level matches your age. You are aware that you are going after women talking about femimism on Prince.org in a nasty way, right?

OldFriends4Sale said:

We need to stop post stuff Jill Jones said on her FB page Jebus!!!

I am respectfully asking why should Jill be immune to discussion?

I think she knows her posts will be discussed and this is why she keeps posting.

I have seen much worse discussions about P and Tyka on the org.

Much, much, worse.

Just saying.

Just asking.

Time for wine!

OldFriends4Sale said:

She can post whatever she wants on her social media. I think she already said she could less what people on this board have to say.

laurarichardson said:

She can post whatever she wants on her social media. I think she already said she could less what people on this board have to say.

Then she won't mind if we are talking about it.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

We need to stop post stuff Jill Jones said on her FB page Jebus!!!

I am respectfully asking why should Jill be immune to discussion?

I think she knows her posts will be discussed and this is why she keeps posting.

I have seen much worse discussions about P and Tyka on the org.

Much, much, worse.

Just saying.

Just asking.

Time for wine!

She isn't immune, I'm just making fun at how this thread and certain JJ threads get so wild

NouveauDance said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I am respectfully asking why should Jill be immune to discussion?

I think she knows her posts will be discussed and this is why she keeps posting.

I have seen much worse discussions about P and Tyka on the org.

Much, much, worse.

Just saying.

Just asking.

Time for wine!

She isn't immune, I'm just making fun at how this thread and certain JJ threads get so wild

This one's tame compared to Crazy Cat.

BillieBalloon said:

NouveauDance said:

Agreed. Whilst the album cover isn't a "pussy shot" per se - it's a classic advertising technique to divert the eye - you're meant to look at her crotch from how the picture is composed, this was done on purpose. I'm not saying it's good, or bad - it's certainly not a new or revolutionary technique, far from it - but that's what it is in that sense, a pussy shot.

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I mean, well done - we're talking about it. I've never heard her music, have no interest in hearing it - but I've discussed the cover, so I've not spent money on it, but I've contributed to promoting it. Purpose achieved.

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We all know Jill's career with Prince, so she's done/sang worse - so maybe she's speaking from experience rather than just taking a shot?

Thats exactly what it is, the way the photo is composed is deliberate to draw your eye to a certain part of the picture. As for the Lovesexy cover, theres no comparison, why that was posted is bizarre.

My eye continually goes to the center, where her hand his hanging between her breasts

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I think they used the Lovesexy cover because of nudity in general to get attention. Which is why people usually say people pose nude(it isn't) but where we have so many people with opinions and morals on sex and nudity, everyone interprets things different. Until people get over the shock of the pussy/cunt/vulva, how women sit stand etc will be scrutinized & judged. Mrs Manners says a woman should always sit with her legs closed so as to not draw unwanted lewed attention...

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But I think this photo would be a better comparison

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BillieBalloon said:

NouveauDance said:

Agreed. Whilst the album cover isn't a "pussy shot" per se - it's a classic advertising technique to divert the eye - you're meant to look at her crotch from how the picture is composed, this was done on purpose. I'm not saying it's good, or bad - it's certainly not a new or revolutionary technique, far from it - but that's what it is in that sense, a pussy shot.

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I mean, well done - we're talking about it. I've never heard her music, have no interest in hearing it - but I've discussed the cover, so I've not spent money on it, but I've contributed to promoting it. Purpose achieved.

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We all know Jill's career with Prince, so she's done/sang worse - so maybe she's speaking from experience rather than just taking a shot?

Thats exactly what it is, the way the photo is composed is deliberate to draw your eye to a certain part of the picture. As for the Lovesexy cover, theres no comparison, why that was posted is bizarre.

has done a few things like this that draw attention to the groin.

The use of the Iris that resembles a womans sexual area and the metaphors of flowers and female sexual innocence and chastity...

OldFriends4Sale said:

BillieBalloon said:

That photo isnt a comparison because Prince doesnt have a narrow piece of cloth covering his groin, while his legs are bare, he is wearing pants.

And that's why the Lovesexy cover was posted, he had nothing on, or so it appeared. Which was racier, the Lovesexy cover, or CC's cover? Bizarre, huh?

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

BillieBalloon said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

has done a few things like this that draw attention to the groin.

The use of the Iris that resembles a womans sexual area and the metaphors of flowers and female sexual innocence and chastity...

Princes Lovesexy cover is more akin to an artistic nude than an im sexually available image. The two images are worlds apart. The Lovesexy album contained somgs where Prince sang about an epiphany, a feeling of being born again, hence the nude image. If you listen to the album the cover makrs aense. The Lovesexy cover is not about displaying his sexuality to sell records.

And that's what I meant when I was talking about double standards

Jill can be extremely insightful, sensitive, and intelligent one minute and off the mark, dramatic, hurtful and hyperbolic the next. I chuck that up to her being extremely emotional when she writes online. I chose to think of it as her working her shit out and sometimes people/common sense are the collatoral damage from the process. I do think she has said some smart stuff about how the harassment issue is more complicated than the woman is always innocent/the victim. However, that cover she posted is not dirty and even if it were, I am not sure how that sends the message that harassment is okay.

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ThatWhiteDude said:

BillieBalloon said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

And that's what I meant when I was talking about double standards

At the end of tbe day Camilla Cabelo cam dosplay herself how she likes on her cover, i couldmt care less about this non emtity. I was pointing out the difference between the Lovesexy cover and her album cover. Now if you dont think tbey are different than you need to open your mind and try to look beyond your narrow view of nudity.

And what exactly is nude about Camila's Cover? She doesn't display her private parts, while Prince is completely naked.

And don't act like Prince never used sex to sell his Albums, but he gets a pass because he's a man, or why is it different? Think about the Dirty Mind Cover.....Every woman would've got slut shamed for posing like that.

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

And that's why the Lovesexy cover was posted, he had nothing on, or so it appeared. Which was racier, the Lovesexy cover, or CC's cover? Bizarre, huh?

You dont understand Lovesexy, so dont bother.

Bizarre that you think you know what I understand or not. When we have evidence you totally don't understand this thread.

ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

BillieBalloon said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

has done a few things like this that draw attention to the groin.

The use of the Iris that resembles a womans sexual area and the metaphors of flowers and female sexual innocence and chastity...

Princes Lovesexy cover is more akin to an artistic nude than an im sexually available image. The two images are worlds apart. The Lovesexy album contained somgs where Prince sang about an epiphany, a feeling of being born again, hence the nude image. If you listen to the album the cover makes sense. The Lovesexy cover is not about displaying his sexuality to sell records. . . [Edited 1/23/18 17:11pm]

Hey you don't have to explain the art of Lovesexy to me lol I don't see it as displaying sexuality to sell records.

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

Bizarre that you think you know what I understand or not. When we have evidence you totally don't understand this thread.

The ample evidence in this thread is your complete inability to comprehemd anything beyond your very basic understanding of artistic integrity. Not only have you never heard the Lovesexy album but even if you did you would not understand it. I would suggest you dont even try given your limited reasoning skills

Now you're fetching too far, how do you know that Penny never listened to the Album?

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BillieBalloon said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

And what exactly is nude about Camila's Cover? She doesn't display her private parts, while Prince is completely naked.

And don't act like Prince never used sex to sell his Albums, but he gets a pass because he's a man, or why is it different? Think about the Dirty Mind Cover.....Every woman would've got slut shamed for posing like that.

Of course Prince sang about sex and used provocative images. The Dirty Mind album tells you in the title itself along with the cover. Primce WAS ripped for his lyrics and images many times. He was considered risque and not someone some parents approved of. They didnt want their kids listening to Prince. There are no double standards, it was a discussion of the Lovesexy cover and trying to understand why Primce was nude on it, which you clearly cant get your head around.

It was a discussion on SEVERAL album covers, I understand you came into the conversation late (of course the only reason you came here at all is to tell people how 'bizarre' the use of the LoveSexy cover was, meaning me, because you just can't stop following me around.) but please stop embarrassing yourself.

ThatWhiteDude said:

Now you're fetching too far, how do you know that Penny never listened to the Album?

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She doesn't know jack shit. She likes to follow me around and make snide comments to me and about me. You notice she came into the conversation late, meaning she wasn't really interested in it, until she saw me use the lovesexy photo, and then tried to 'ding' me. How bizarre.

She's a Mayte hater and has had it out for me ever since I did the Mayte book thread.

PennyPurple said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Now you're fetching too far, how do you know that Penny never listened to the Album?

[Edited 1/23/18 17:34pm]

She doesn't know jack shit. She likes to follow me around and make snide comments to me and about me. You notice she came into the conversation late, meaning she wasn't really interested in it, until she saw me use the lovesexy photo, and then tried to 'ding' me. How bizarre.

She's a Mayte hater and has had it out for me ever since I did the Mayte book thread.

I see Some people are living for the drama I guess

OldFriends4Sale said:

Hey you don't have to explain the art of Lovesexy to me lol I don't see it as displaying sexuality to sell records.

I also don't see CC's cover as being sexual.

Jill Jones rant was like she never seen a racy cover before. I posted covers that were nudes to show the difference between a clothed CC and a naked JJ, and also posted P's cover to just show that it's not only the females who can be nude on a cover.

BB just likes to nit pick.