OldFriends4Sale said:

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The Revolution had NOTHING to do with Jills relationship with Prince nor her follow -up album or career.

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Susannah Melvoin does not equal the Revolution. Technically during that period, she was still with the Family.
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But Jill was seeing Prince at the same time of Sheila E, and Devin. So even that cannot be put on Susannah. Not to mention Susannah left Prince Decemeber 1986. He got engaged to Sheila E during the SOTT period and she was living with him. So do we blame Sheila E now? or do wie blame Jills current friend Anna Garcia ie Anna Fantastic, or who about the EuroAsian woman Cat said Prince started seeing in 1987 who is at the beginning of the SOTT movie? or maybe actress Troy Breyer?

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Let's go further back before Susannah... Vanity. Did Jill get in the way of Vanity's relationship with Prince. In the song Samuelle(1984) which is about Prince she refers to Marilyn who is Jill Jones

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Samuelle,do you belong to Marilyn?
I know she could never love your heart like me
I'm quite sure we belong together
Oh Samuelle,you cannot tell a lie
it echoes across the moon and the sky

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or was Vanity in Jills way? Didn't Prince have Vanity & Jill living in his house at the same time for a period?
Jill recently 'playfully?' lamented that why couldn't it be her who filled Vanity's spot in Purple Rain.

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Ok seriously in 1987 Jill and Prince were still 'intimately' connected? Even though he was engaged to Sheila E and moved her in his home [just like he did with Susannah in 1986]

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or maybe again Anna Fantastic 1988-89 or maybe it was Madonna or Robin Power or maybe Elisa Fiorillo (he did have JJ lip sync to Elisa's vocals in the movie and he had a little fling with her too) or maybe Mayte 1991 and Carmen Electra since he focused on Carmens career and derailed JJ's 2nd album of music

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Jill Jones' role in the Graffiti Bridge movie was originally much larger than what she ended up playing. Kim Basinger was intended as the original lead in the movie, but when she and Prince parted company shortly before filming began, Prince simply combined Kim's and Jill's parts together and gave them to Ingred Chavez. Jill was then given a much smaller role as Prince's girlfriend.

While flying to Minneapolis to film the movie, Jill read the revamped script and began to tear it up and started to throw pages all around the cabin. Jill retired to the bathroom while her PA had to walk around the plane asking fellow passengers for pages of the script back.

Jill later said that if she had not been on the plane already she would have turned right round and returned home.

Jill did turn up in Minneapolis but she refused to talk to Prince on the set of Graffiti Bridge. In fact she refused to communicate with anyone except in French. Prince got upset and told Jill "If you don't smile and act better round here, then this is your replacement," and then showed Jill a photograph. Jill replied "Oh, an old girlfriend?" She stayed to complete the film but her relationship with Prince was never the same.

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the Revolution had nothing to do with Jills relationship with Prince nor her follow-up album(which was 1988 -1990 period) nor her career.

Every single woman that you mentioned above, knew that Prince had side pieces. Jill knew what she was getting into. Just like when Prince suggested to Jill that she would be his side piece when he was engaged to be married to Susannah. Jill went along with it, what type of person does that make Jill?

OldFriends4Sale said:

[...]Jill did turn up in Minneapolis but she refused to talk to Prince on the set of Graffiti Bridge. In fact she refused to communicate with anyone except in French. Prince got upset and told Jill "If you don't smile and act better round here, then this is your replacement," and then showed Jill a photograph. Jill replied "Oh, an old girlfriend?" She stayed to complete the film but her relationship with Prince was never the same.[...]

That's my girl!

Thanks for all the background history OF4S! It must have been really strange times for all of them to be juggled around by Prince like that...

I wonder if the chemistry would have been better in the circle if he could have made his mind up or even not mixed the professional with the private. I guess that was probably easier said than done at the time as he was a slightly different Prince then. He seemed to have wisened up a lot towards the end, at least in comparison with his former lifestyle, so perhaps he had learned and grown from past mistakes...

Going back to the current plot, if anyone has time to listen to or just skip to the end of the January interview that Laurarichardson posted yesterday, Jill actually still talked positively about Brownmark (and Matt Fink) at the time (starts around 1:02:00). The rest of that part is very interesting too, and helps understand why recognition is so important to Jill.

[Edited 12/14/17 2:28am]

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

The Revolution had nothing to do with Jills relationship with Prince nor her follow-up album or career.

Not true. Jill has said that Prince came to her and told her he was engaged to Susannah and was going to continue to see Jill but that could not see each other in public anymore. He put her up in apartment in NYC. She said he started flying her out on the road to see him and she even visted him in Paris after Susannaha was sent back to MN. Associates saw her around and started to figure out that she was still in the picture. I believe she bring this up in this interview.

I believe she talks about this in this interview. She said a lot to Mike Dean as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgPsnBnqOY

The Revolution had NOTHING to do with Jills relationship with Prince nor her follow -up album or career.

.

Susannah Melvoin does not equal the Revolution. Technically during that period, she was still with the Family.
.
But Jill was seeing Prince at the same time of Sheila E, and Devin. So even that cannot be put on Susannah. Not to mention Susannah left Prince Decemeber 1986. He got engaged to Sheila E during the SOTT period and she was living with him. So do we blame Sheila E now? or do wie blame Jills current friend Anna Garcia ie Anna Fantastic, or who about the EuroAsian woman Cat said Prince started seeing in 1987 who is at the beginning of the SOTT movie? or maybe actress Troy Breyer?

.

Let's go further back before Susannah... Vanity. Did Jill get in the way of Vanity's relationship with Prince. In the song Samuelle(1984) which is about Prince she refers to Marilyn who is Jill Jones

.

Samuelle,do you belong to Marilyn?
I know she could never love your heart like me
I'm quite sure we belong together
Oh Samuelle,you cannot tell a lie
it echoes across the moon and the sky

.

or was Vanity in Jills way? Didn't Prince have Vanity & Jill living in his house at the same time for a period?
Jill recently 'playfully?' lamented that why couldn't it be her who filled Vanity's spot in Purple Rain.

.

Ok seriously in 1987 Jill and Prince were still 'intimately' connected? Even though he was engaged to Sheila E and moved her in his home [just like he did with Susannah in 1986]

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or maybe again Anna Fantastic 1988-89 or maybe it was Madonna or Robin Power or maybe Elisa Fiorillo (he did have JJ lip sync to Elisa's vocals in the movie and he had a little fling with her too) or maybe Mayte 1991 and Carmen Electra since he focused on Carmens career and derailed JJ's 2nd album of music

.

Jill Jones' role in the Graffiti Bridge movie was originally much larger than what she ended up playing. Kim Basinger was intended as the original lead in the movie, but when she and Prince parted company shortly before filming began, Prince simply combined Kim's and Jill's parts together and gave them to Ingred Chavez. Jill was then given a much smaller role as Prince's girlfriend.

While flying to Minneapolis to film the movie, Jill read the revamped script and began to tear it up and started to throw pages all around the cabin. Jill retired to the bathroom while her PA had to walk around the plane asking fellow passengers for pages of the script back.

Jill later said that if she had not been on the plane already she would have turned right round and returned home.

Jill did turn up in Minneapolis but she refused to talk to Prince on the set of Graffiti Bridge. In fact she refused to communicate with anyone except in French. Prince got upset and told Jill "If you don't smile and act better round here, then this is your replacement," and then showed Jill a photograph. Jill replied "Oh, an old girlfriend?" She stayed to complete the film but her relationship with Prince was never the same.

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the Revolution had nothing to do with Jills relationship with Prince nor her follow-up album(which was 1988 -1990 period) nor her career.

Long post that tells us nothing. Listen to Jill's interview. Susan and Wendy knew Jill was still seeing Prince while he was engaged to Susannah and Wendy has actually mentioned his running around in other interviews. That was her sister if you think she did not give a hang about his behavior you are delusional. She in as much called him a manwhore. Why would she comment on his sex life if his running around on her sister did not bother her.

From the point of view of female I could see how Jill would not be her favorite person? Then you have Bitchy Mark who seems to have been jelous of any women Prince took shopping well Prince put Jill up in a New York apartment so maybe he is mad that he did not get an apartment. He is a bitchy man so who the hell knows.

I think they all have beefs from years ago and at least Jill is honest about her beefs and not living in a state of delusion. She even admits how angry she was for being hidden away and treated like a side piece in New York. She said that was the beginning of the end of their relationship.

He flew her in to Nice to see him right afte he flew Susannah out and Alan Leeds said he flew Sheila E in later on. Devin said he called her numorous times to try and get her to visit because he was bored and wanted to spend sometime with her. He was like a greedy child left loose at the Slurpee machine. Listen to the damm interview.

[Edited 12/14/17 4:34am]

PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The Revolution had NOTHING to do with Jills relationship with Prince nor her follow -up album or career.

.

Susannah Melvoin does not equal the Revolution. Technically during that period, she was still with the Family.
.
But Jill was seeing Prince at the same time of Sheila E, and Devin. So even that cannot be put on Susannah. Not to mention Susannah left Prince Decemeber 1986. He got engaged to Sheila E during the SOTT period and she was living with him. So do we blame Sheila E now? or do wie blame Jills current friend Anna Garcia ie Anna Fantastic, or who about the EuroAsian woman Cat said Prince started seeing in 1987 who is at the beginning of the SOTT movie? or maybe actress Troy Breyer?

.

Let's go further back before Susannah... Vanity. Did Jill get in the way of Vanity's relationship with Prince. In the song Samuelle(1984) which is about Prince she refers to Marilyn who is Jill Jones

.

Samuelle,do you belong to Marilyn?
I know she could never love your heart like me
I'm quite sure we belong together
Oh Samuelle,you cannot tell a lie
it echoes across the moon and the sky

.

or was Vanity in Jills way? Didn't Prince have Vanity & Jill living in his house at the same time for a period?
Jill recently 'playfully?' lamented that why couldn't it be her who filled Vanity's spot in Purple Rain.

.

Ok seriously in 1987 Jill and Prince were still 'intimately' connected? Even though he was engaged to Sheila E and moved her in his home [just like he did with Susannah in 1986]

.

or maybe again Anna Fantastic 1988-89 or maybe it was Madonna or Robin Power or maybe Elisa Fiorillo (he did have JJ lip sync to Elisa's vocals in the movie and he had a little fling with her too) or maybe Mayte 1991 and Carmen Electra since he focused on Carmens career and derailed JJ's 2nd album of music

.

Jill Jones' role in the Graffiti Bridge movie was originally much larger than what she ended up playing. Kim Basinger was intended as the original lead in the movie, but when she and Prince parted company shortly before filming began, Prince simply combined Kim's and Jill's parts together and gave them to Ingred Chavez. Jill was then given a much smaller role as Prince's girlfriend.

While flying to Minneapolis to film the movie, Jill read the revamped script and began to tear it up and started to throw pages all around the cabin. Jill retired to the bathroom while her PA had to walk around the plane asking fellow passengers for pages of the script back.

Jill later said that if she had not been on the plane already she would have turned right round and returned home.

Jill did turn up in Minneapolis but she refused to talk to Prince on the set of Graffiti Bridge. In fact she refused to communicate with anyone except in French. Prince got upset and told Jill "If you don't smile and act better round here, then this is your replacement," and then showed Jill a photograph. Jill replied "Oh, an old girlfriend?" She stayed to complete the film but her relationship with Prince was never the same.

.

the Revolution had nothing to do with Jills relationship with Prince nor her follow-up album(which was 1988 -1990 period) nor her career.

Every single woman that you mentioned above, knew that Prince had side pieces. Jill knew what she was getting into. Just like when Prince suggested to Jill that she would be his side piece when he was engaged to be married to Susannah. Jill went along with it, what type of person does that make Jill?

Makes her a side piece which she was when he brought her to Minnie from California. He had Kim Upshur in his house when Jill arrived.

He had Jill in his house when Vanity arrived. He had muliple side pieces and later mistresses.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Every single woman that you mentioned above, knew that Prince had side pieces. Jill knew what she was getting into. Just like when Prince suggested to Jill that she would be his side piece when he was engaged to be married to Susannah. Jill went along with it, what type of person does that make Jill?

Makes her a side piece which she was when he brought her to Minnie from California. He had Kim Upshur in his house when Jill arrived.

He had Jill in his house when Vanity arrived. He had muliple side pieces and later mistresses.

Yup.

I like JILL and all but again she does run her mouth a lot. There is a lot of bad blood it seems and people getting there due with who did what who played on this, and the TRUTH is it really is PRINCE's fault. He created this with keeping things so secretive during those years, and notice how there really is no bad blood in later years when his music was not popular and selling, I mean is there a feud between Hannah Welton and Morris Hayes going on? NOPE there is a lot of love from later PRINCE members and bad blood and I did this and that and I want my due etc....from the 80's players.

lastdecember said:

I like JILL and all but again she does run her mouth a lot. There is a lot of bad blood it seems and people getting there due with who did what who played on this, and the TRUTH is it really is PRINCE's fault. He created this with keeping things so secretive during those years, and notice how there really is no bad blood in later years when his music was not popular and selling, I mean is there a feud between Hannah Welton and Morris Hayes going on? NOPE there is a lot of love from later PRINCE members and bad blood and I did this and that and I want my due etc....from the 80's players.

Prince's behavior was a lot more ambiguous in the eighties. Blurred standards often cause chaos, confusion, and a lot of hurt. Along with his spiritual conversion, came a new awareness (and moral values) for him hence a very different way of interacting with people, so of course you won't hear of so many complaints from that time on. The love you hear from new band members might simply be reflective of the respectful love he too gave to them.

lastdecember said:

I like JILL and all but again she does run her mouth a lot. There is a lot of bad blood it seems and people getting there due with who did what who played on this, and the TRUTH is it really is PRINCE's fault. He created this with keeping things so secretive during those years, and notice how there really is no bad blood in later years when his music was not popular and selling, I mean is there a feud between Hannah Welton and Morris Hayes going on? NOPE there is a lot of love from later PRINCE members and bad blood and I did this and that and I want my due etc....from the 80's players.

She has a right to have her say and if her talking ever bothered Prince well he should have treated her better or just been honest that he was never going to comit himself to just her. Althought for all we know he did tell her and she did not want to hear it. I meant he was making it clear when he put her in New York that she was going to be his mistress since he was planning on marrying Susannah.

So she knew where she stood with him.

CherryMoon57 said:

lastdecember said:

I like JILL and all but again she does run her mouth a lot. There is a lot of bad blood it seems and people getting there due with who did what who played on this, and the TRUTH is it really is PRINCE's fault. He created this with keeping things so secretive during those years, and notice how there really is no bad blood in later years when his music was not popular and selling, I mean is there a feud between Hannah Welton and Morris Hayes going on? NOPE there is a lot of love from later PRINCE members and bad blood and I did this and that and I want my due etc....from the 80's players.

Prince's behavior was a lot more ambiguous in the eighties. Blurred standards often cause chaos, confusion, and a lot of hurt. Along with his spiritual conversion, came a new awareness (and moral values) for him hence a very different way of interacting with people, so of course you won't hear of so many complaints from that time on. The love you hear from new band members might simply be reflective of the respectful love he too gave to them.

I also think like everything else he was getting older and pulled back in the control department plus those around were a bit wiser and hip to business, plus he even showed them ways to think more business minded. Coming up it was all about gettting there, and I have no doubt the reality is he probably did 95% of things himself and the other 5% is what everyone is fighting over.

laurarichardson said:

lastdecember said:

I like JILL and all but again she does run her mouth a lot. There is a lot of bad blood it seems and people getting there due with who did what who played on this, and the TRUTH is it really is PRINCE's fault. He created this with keeping things so secretive during those years, and notice how there really is no bad blood in later years when his music was not popular and selling, I mean is there a feud between Hannah Welton and Morris Hayes going on? NOPE there is a lot of love from later PRINCE members and bad blood and I did this and that and I want my due etc....from the 80's players.

She has a right to have her say and if her talking ever bothered Prince well he should have treated her better or just been honest that he was never going to comit himself to just her. Althought for all we know he did tell her and she did not want to hear it. I meant he was making it clear when he put her in New York that she was going to be his mistress since he was planning on marrying Susannah.

So she knew where she stood with him.

Well like i said 80's PRINCE is far different than the Prince after becoming a JW, to be straight and honest I don't think PRINCE though had women around him, Judith, Andy etc..those last years, had any form of relation with them other then them being next to him and creating with him. I think sex was over for the man. As for the music side of things, in the 80's is where the bad blood is, mainly because of the circle he had, i dont doubt he did 95% of the work and the other 5% is what the rest are fighting over.

lastdecember said:

laurarichardson said:

She has a right to have her say and if her talking ever bothered Prince well he should have treated her better or just been honest that he was never going to comit himself to just her. Althought for all we know he did tell her and she did not want to hear it. I meant he was making it clear when he put her in New York that she was going to be his mistress since he was planning on marrying Susannah.

So she knew where she stood with him.

Well like i said 80's PRINCE is far different than the Prince after becoming a JW, to be straight and honest I don't think PRINCE though had women around him, Judith, Andy etc..those last years, had any form of relation with them other then them being next to him and creating with him. I think sex was over for the man. As for the music side of things, in the 80's is where the bad blood is, mainly because of the circle he had, i dont doubt he did 95% of the work and the other 5% is what the rest are fighting over.

What would make you think sex was over for him? I saw no indication of that. Judith described herself as his girlfriend and she said she came up to Paisley Park every two weeks to see him. I do not think they were knitting. Tamaron said he went to therapy after his death. Kandance Springs said he took her out on a date and tried it with her.

We got a looney tune on Facebook posting pics of what she claims is a computer from Paisley Park with porn films purchased on March 8, 2016. If this is true he was interested in sex.

laurarichardson said:

lastdecember said:

Well like i said 80's PRINCE is far different than the Prince after becoming a JW, to be straight and honest I don't think PRINCE though had women around him, Judith, Andy etc..those last years, had any form of relation with them other then them being next to him and creating with him. I think sex was over for the man. As for the music side of things, in the 80's is where the bad blood is, mainly because of the circle he had, i dont doubt he did 95% of the work and the other 5% is what the rest are fighting over.

What would make you think sex was over for him? I saw no indication of that. Judith described herself as his girlfriend and she said she came up to Paisley Park every two weeks to see him. I do not think they were knitting. Tamaron said he went to therapy after his death. Kandance Springs said he took her out on a date and tried it with her.

We got a looney tune on Facebook posting pics of what she claims is a computer from Paisley Park with porn films purchased on March 8, 2016. If this is true he was interested in sex.

Dating and going to events with beautiful women is a bit different than going to bed with them, I just dont get the vibe that was who he was anymore. I think after Mayte and possibly Manuela though I doubt a lot of their relationship was the typical husband wife thing. I just feel PRINCE was looking at relations a different way when he got to a certain age and certain things happened to him in his life and past relations

lastdecember said:

laurarichardson said:

What would make you think sex was over for him? I saw no indication of that. Judith described herself as his girlfriend and she said she came up to Paisley Park every two weeks to see him. I do not think they were knitting. Tamaron said he went to therapy after his death. Kandance Springs said he took her out on a date and tried it with her.

We got a looney tune on Facebook posting pics of what she claims is a computer from Paisley Park with porn films purchased on March 8, 2016. If this is true he was interested in sex.

Dating and going to events with beautiful women is a bit different than going to bed with them, I just dont get the vibe that was who he was anymore. I think after Mayte and possibly Manuela though I doubt a lot of their relationship was the typical husband wife thing. I just feel PRINCE was looking at relations a different way when he got to a certain age and certain things happened to him in his life and past relations

We know he was spending time with Liza Hernadez, Bria, Tamara and La La after his marriage broke up. Bria told the people in Manchester she broke up with him because he was not serious about the JW lifestyle and she was.

What do you think she meant and why was he in JW marriage consuling with M2? Do you remember he got busted having sex in the movies with M2? Do you remember Mikki White saying he would send M2 back to Canada ( which I think was an immigation thing) and fly other women in to see him in Minn? Come on now. He was more discreet with his behavior and maybe did not juggle as many but dude did not change.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, and she most likely will. This is all very sad and beyond heartbreaking. I'm sorry Jill has so many unresolved issues with Prince. She is hurting and having all these emotions built-up inside her is beyond frustrating. I sincerely wish her peace and hope they can all come together and stop this nonsense. Because really, at the end of the day, it's not worth it. We are only on this earth for a short time. Prince is gone, and we all miss him and we all feel like we didn't have enough time with him.

I just feel that this is happening with the older ladies, drama all the time. The more recent ones like Andy Allo, never start any drama.

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I actually feel very sad for Jill. She has a lot of anger/resentment towards the Revolution and Prince. she has unsolved issues which are haunting her. She needs to let the silly stuff go and focus on what's more imporant in life. I agree; the older ladies seem to be the most problematic.

purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said:

Yup.

I can’t undertand how he got away with it. This portion of him baffles me. Now I didn’t grow up crushing on him either, but I don’t get it!!!!

What I don't get, is the women that went along with this. Did they have low self-esteem, were they money hungry, fame hungry?

I mean they allowed him to use them. And what kind of woman does that to another woman, when Jill knew he was engaged to Susannah, and Jill still went along with Prince to be his side piece?

laurarichardson said:

lastdecember said:

Well like i said 80's PRINCE is far different than the Prince after becoming a JW, to be straight and honest I don't think PRINCE though had women around him, Judith, Andy etc..those last years, had any form of relation with them other then them being next to him and creating with him. I think sex was over for the man. As for the music side of things, in the 80's is where the bad blood is, mainly because of the circle he had, i dont doubt he did 95% of the work and the other 5% is what the rest are fighting over.

What would make you think sex was over for him? I saw no indication of that. Judith described herself as his girlfriend and she said she came up to Paisley Park every two weeks to see him. I do not think they were knitting. Tamaron said he went to therapy after his death. Kandance Springs said he took her out on a date and tried it with her.

We got a looney tune on Facebook posting pics of what she claims is a computer from Paisley Park with porn films purchased on March 8, 2016. If this is true he was interested in sex.

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Woo, porn films? Do tell!!

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Personally, I think Prince was getting older and it was getting more difficult to manage and mend fences with the women he hurt in his past. He admitted, he did things he was not proud of. I respect him for saying that. None of us are perfect.

purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said:

Yup.

I can’t undertand how he got away with it. This portion of him baffles me. Now I didn’t grow up crushing on him either, but I don’t get it!!!!

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These women were okay with it because they wanted to be with Prince. Some women don't think twice about throwing themselves at a man, just to get what they want, whatever that may be (sex, money, lifestyle, jewelry, fame, etc). I guess you could say they were groupies. It's very common for rock stars to sleep with many women when they are on the road. I read some wild stories about what some of them did....just crazy!! Look at Sharon Osbourne, for instance -- she put up with Ozzy's cheating ways; she knew he was doing it.

PennyPurple said:

purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said: I can’t undertand how he got away with it. This portion of him baffles me. Now I didn’t grow up crushing on him either, but I don’t get it!!!!

What I don't get, is the women that went along with this. Did they have low self-esteem, were they money hungry, fame hungry?

I mean they allowed him to use them. And what kind of woman does that to another woman, when Jill knew he was engaged to Susannah, and Jill still went along with Prince to be his side piece?

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As my husband calls these types of women: "loose ass", LOL

PennyPurple said:

purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said: I can’t undertand how he got away with it. This portion of him baffles me. Now I didn’t grow up crushing on him either, but I don’t get it!!!!

What I don't get, is the women that went along with this. Did they have low self-esteem, were they money hungry, fame hungry?

I mean they allowed him to use them. And what kind of woman does that to another woman, when Jill knew he was engaged to Susannah, and Jill still went along with Prince to be his side piece?

Money, fame and I think outside of his running around he treated them nice. You know material things and trips. Sheila E said he would lease a jet and they would go to Oakland to hang with her family. He brought her a fur coat for her birthday. She grew up poor and use to steal food. All of a sudden this man is pouring all of his attention on you. Remember even Mayte said he put her pedestal and she liked being on it.

Keep in mind he even stayed friends with some of then and I bet they are all were crying and having meltdowns when they heard he passed. I feel sorry for them because he really put the whammy on some of them and some cannot get on with their lives.

[Edited 12/14/17 12:51pm]

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

What would make you think sex was over for him? I saw no indication of that. Judith described herself as his girlfriend and she said she came up to Paisley Park every two weeks to see him. I do not think they were knitting. Tamaron said he went to therapy after his death. Kandance Springs said he took her out on a date and tried it with her.

We got a looney tune on Facebook posting pics of what she claims is a computer from Paisley Park with porn films purchased on March 8, 2016. If this is true he was interested in sex.

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Woo, porn films? Do tell!!

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Personally, I think Prince was getting older and it was getting more difficult to manage and mend fences with the women he hurt in his past. He admitted, he did things he was not proud of. I respect him for saying that. None of us are perfect.

Some nut cake claims the screen shot of the porn purchases came from a family member. Which does not surprise me a bit. Some of them are selling the family memorial programs online for 3k.

cloveringold85 said:

purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said: I can’t undertand how he got away with it. This portion of him baffles me. Now I didn’t grow up crushing on him either, but I don’t get it!!!!

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These women were okay with it because they wanted to be with Prince. Some women don't think twice about throwing themselves at a man, just to get what they want, whatever that may be (sex, money, lifestyle, jewelry, fame, etc). I guess you could say they were groupies. It's very common for rock stars to sleep with many women when they are on the road. I read some wild stories about what some of them did....just crazy!! Look at Sharon Osbourne, for instance -- she put up with Ozzy's cheating ways; she knew he was doing it.

This might have been the case for some of them, but Jill was not just a groupie though, she was already in the show business when she met Prince, well before his international fame and she made it clear that she was not in awe of him when they first met. There was obviously more to being with Prince than what we can perceive from the outside, not just romantically, on an artistic level as well, at least to start with... But once she knew the relationship had deteriorated, she did not hang about. I think she's got her head on her shoulders and (the odd rant aside) doesn't sound bitter about the past at all.

CherryMoon57 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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These women were okay with it because they wanted to be with Prince. Some women don't think twice about throwing themselves at a man, just to get what they want, whatever that may be (sex, money, lifestyle, jewelry, fame, etc). I guess you could say they were groupies. It's very common for rock stars to sleep with many women when they are on the road. I read some wild stories about what some of them did....just crazy!! Look at Sharon Osbourne, for instance -- she put up with Ozzy's cheating ways; she knew he was doing it.

This might have been the case for some of them, but Jill was not just a groupie though, she was already in the show business when she met Prince, well before his international fame and she made it clear that she was not in awe of him when they first met. There was obviously more to being with Prince than what we can perceive from the outside, not just romantically, on an artistic level as well, at least to start with... But once she knew the relationship had deteriorated, she did not hang about. I think she's got her head on her shoulders and (the odd rant aside) doesn't sound bitter about the past at all.

i think this leveled the playing field for her for sure ^. I do think at some point she was a high ranking

"sister wife" and had a strength of will of complicity that allowed her to be comfortable and stick

around a while. I do think she is strong willed and speaks her mind, i like that about her. She seems

to speak from a place that doesn't seem dishonest or bitter. Frank, no nonsense, cut thru the BS are

good traits.

lastdecember said:

Dating and going to events with beautiful women is a bit different than going to bed with them, I just dont get the vibe that was who he was anymore. I think after Mayte and possibly Manuela though I doubt a lot of their relationship was the typical husband wife thing. I just feel PRINCE was looking at relations a different way when he got to a certain age and certain things happened to him in his life and past relations

I agree with you. Later years seemed to be all about appearances.

endiadj said:

How did he have the time and energy for all that he did? Juggling a dozen women, studio time, reversals, touring, etc., all at the same time?! Incredible! Nothing against the women involved or Prince. They all knew the deal and were free to leave if they wanted.

Exactly that.

endiadj said:

How did he have the time and energy for all that he did? Juggling a dozen women, studio time, reversals, touring, etc., all at the same time?! Incredible! Nothing against the women involved or Prince. They all knew the deal and were free to leave if they wanted.

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Prince never really had a traditional relationship with anyone. He had no time for that. Well, up until the time he married Mayte, but even then, it wasn't a traditional relationship/marriage either.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Woo, porn films? Do tell!!

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Personally, I think Prince was getting older and it was getting more difficult to manage and mend fences with the women he hurt in his past. He admitted, he did things he was not proud of. I respect him for saying that. None of us are perfect.

Some nut cake claims the screen shot of the porn purchases came from a family member. Which does not surprise me a bit. Some of them are selling the family memorial programs online for 3k.

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That's disgusting! They have no shame.