LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

BklynDiamond said:

That was what, 20 years ago....has she asked recently since he died?

Seems that would be the easiest way to find out where iit is.

And she simply said the urn was not given to her, nothing about a court proceeding, nor did she ever say she asked for the ashes, or about them. Saying she was not awarded the ashes in court is very very different.

malbena said:

LBrent said:

You know dat's so wrong.

Leave Apples alone. She's got alot on her plate.

At least she's hangin in there and now that I think about it, I really haven't seen any of the Purple Harem aging badly. Evreyone seems to still be in shape for a bunch of middleaged gals.

Even Vanity/Denise looked pretty good before she passed (a little puffy but I figure that was from medication for her medical issues RIP)

So all in all, P had pretty good taste as far as goodlookin gals.

I know. Sorry.

I'm just irritated about a the last attack on Mayte whom I usually don't defend but I thought she had taken it too far.

Nothing against you though

Oh, I know and I'm cool.

I'm not offended by anyone steppin up for whatever they're feelin. I was just teasin ya. Lol

That is standard passive aggressive bs. You don't bring up something negative and then say but "I am not going into its details" leaving people to imagine the worse. If you are being generous, you leave it out completely or quickly state the fact and move on.... It is one thing to say," we had a fight" and then leave it like that. Its another thing to say "We had a fight but I am not going to go into it".

DD55 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

BklynDiamond said: And she simply said the urn was not given to her, nothing about a court proceeding, nor did she ever say she asked for the ashes, or about them. Saying she was not awarded the ashes in court is very very different.

In the book she is extremely kind to him, even in places where she could have easily blasted him. It maybe that they did have an argument / discussion / talk about it and he was a jerk about it, then when writing the book she decided not to go down that road and discuss it with anyone. That may be a detail she wants to keep private. I forget off hand but in a few places in the book she will mention something then say, 'that’s all I’m going to say on that subject' or words to that effect. Someone who read the book, correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks ~~DD55

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DD55 said:

DD55 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

BklynDiamond said: And she simply said the urn was not given to her, nothing about a court proceeding, nor did she ever say she asked for the ashes, or about them. Saying she was not awarded the ashes in court is very very different.

In the book she is extremely kind to him, even in places where she could have easily blasted him. It maybe that they did have an argument / discussion / talk about it and he was a jerk about it, then when writing the book she decided not to go down that road and discuss it with anyone. That may be a detail she wants to keep private. I forget off hand but in a few places in the book she will mention something then say, 'that’s all I’m going to say on that subject' or words to that effect. Someone who read the book, correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks ~~DD55

Yup, she says that a coupla times. I took it as, "This happened or this person was involved, but I'm not gonna go into detail cuz...let's move one."

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

DD55 said:

In the book she is extremely kind to him, even in places where she could have easily blasted him. It maybe that they did have an argument / discussion / talk about it and he was a jerk about it, then when writing the book she decided not to go down that road and discuss it with anyone. That may be a detail she wants to keep private. I forget off hand but in a few places in the book she will mention something then say, 'that’s all I’m going to say on that subject' or words to that effect. Someone who read the book, correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks ~~DD55

Anything is possible, but she felt o.k. About saying he burnt the urn which seems a little more personal than we argued about it. She through him under the bus, but in the process she through herself there as well, what mother does not know for sure what happened to their child remains, not one I can think of except her.

That's not true.

She says she doesn't have the urn.

She says she was told that her belongings and "anything that reminded P of her or the baby was burnt".

To burn an urn, the temperature required would need a fire far hotter than could be safely accomplished in a backyard fire. Smelting temperature would be require. That would've hd the fir department involved.

She also, I found interesting, never mentions the belongings being burnt in LG's backyard like M2 has said in those texts to P.

That urn still exists somewhere. It'll turn up...it's just a matter of time. Know it.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Maybe they just don't like her. Why would they be jeoulus of mayte, prince dumped her hard.

True, but before he did, he paraded her around acknowledging her publicly as his mate and most importantly in this scenarion...actually married her, which he didn't do with any of them...and some of them aspired to be his "one and only", therefore the opportunity for jealousy.

LBrent said:

How did this M2 thread turn in the urn thread?

LBrent said:

The Vegas Bookmakers are setting the odds for the Paisley Ex-wife Cage Catfight.

I'd put my money on M1, but although I think she has the skills to demolish M2, I don't think M1 has the heart to do it.

At the last moment, just before delivering the fatal blow, M1 will feel sorry for M2 and pull the punch instead of hitting her with a one hitter quitter...M2 wouldn't have the same compassion.

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Yeah, I just finished reading Mayte's bookand I think that she has adequately dealt her strikeback to Mani and has nothing more to say publicly about the woman. As for Mani, I don't think she can ever come up with enough words to make nice. She'll have to settle for deeds in that regard. Very quiet deeds.

Come on. Are these women that insecure? Maybe, its not jealousy but genuine dislike and protectiveness of Prince. Jill never stated that PRince was her one and only. she joked about his player ways and gave him ribbing at times. Apollonia's widow statements were symbolic not literal. She denied having a real relationship with Prince. Anna did have a real relationship and Pink Cashmere is about her. Manuela also had a marriage to him.

LBrent said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Maybe they just don't like her. Why would they be jeoulus of mayte, prince dumped her hard.

True, but before he did, he paraded her around acknowledging her publicly as his mate and most importantly in this scenarion...actually married her, which he didn't do with any of them...and some of them aspired to be his "one and only", therefore the opportunity for jealousy.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

LBrent said:

That's not true.

She says she doesn't have the urn.

She says she was told that her belongings and "anything that reminded P of her or the baby was burnt".

To burn an urn, the temperature required would need a fire far hotter than could be safely accomplished in a backyard fire. Smelting temperature would be require. That would've hd the fir department involved.

She also, I found interesting, never mentions the belongings being burnt in LG's backyard like M2 has said in those texts to P.

That urn still exists somewhere. It'll turn up...it's just a matter of time. Know it.

The point is you don not know, I do not know, and mayte does not know what happened, but she included apparently without any proof, prince burned it (she was told) Her editing skills on this subject failed

Editing aside, Mayte never wrote or said in the book that Pburned the urn. It isn't in there. Sorry.

LBrent said:

True, but before he did, he paraded her around acknowledging her publicly as his mate and most importantly in this scenarion...actually married her, which he didn't do with any of them...and some of them aspired to be his "one and only", therefore the opportunity for jealousy.

purplerabbithole said:

Come on. Are these women that insecure? Maybe, its not jealousy but genuine dislike and protectiveness of Prince. Jill never stated that Prince was her one and only. she joked about his player ways and gave him ribbing at times. Apollonia's widow statements were symbolic not literal. She denied having a real relationship with Prince. Anna did have a real relationship and Pink Cashmere is about her. Manuela also had a marriage to him.

All that you said about them is true, but the fact remains that there is resentment on their part and it goes deeper than, "Oh, let's protect P!"

Jill never said P was her one and only, but at one point she wanted to be his one and only but she has acknowledged that it wasn't possible.

They're all being "mean girls" and Manuela can't be proud of the way she got him so, yeah...

LBrent said:

LBrent said:

purplerabbithole said:

Come on. Are these women that insecure? Maybe, its not jealousy but genuine dislike and protectiveness of Prince. Jill never stated that Prince was her one and only. she joked about his player ways and gave him ribbing at times. Apollonia's widow statements were symbolic not literal. She denied having a real relationship with Prince. Anna did have a real relationship and Pink Cashmere is about her. Manuela also had a marriage to him.

All that you said about them is true, but the fact remains that there is resentment on their part and it goes deeper than, "Oh, let's protect P!"

Jill never said P was her one and only, but at one point she wanted to be his one and only but she has acknowledged that it wasn't possible.

They're all being "mean girls" and Manuela can't be proud of the way she got him so, yeah...

Actually, Mayte is the only woman who came in unaware, without any intentions other than her bellydancing career. She was not a superfan, not a stalker, didn't pretend to believe whatever Larry was spouting about torture stakes and JW doctrine, their love came naturally and truthfully and so I do believe she was "THE ONE," ---- although he seemed to genuinely love Manuela, there was manipulation going on.

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Superfan1984 said:

Actually, Mayte is the only woman who came in unaware, without any intentions other than her bellydancing career.

Um, what?

Superfan1984 said:

LBrent said:

All that you said about them is true, but the fact remains that there is resentment on their part and it goes deeper than, "Oh, let's protect P!"

Jill never said P was her one and only, but at one point she wanted to be his one and only but she has acknowledged that it wasn't possible.

They're all being "mean girls" and Manuela can't be proud of the way she got him so, yeah...

Actually, Mayte is the only woman who came in unaware, without any intentions other than her bellydancing career. She was not a superfan, not a stalker, didn't pretend to believe whatever Larry was spouting about torture stakes and JW doctrine, their love came naturally and truthfully and so I do believe she was "THE ONE," ---- although he seemed to genuinely love Manuela, there was manipulation going on.

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From everything I've learned thus far about Manuela, she designed herself to be exactly what would appeal to P in his most emotionally fragile moment and that was her being very calculating and manipulative.

Unfortunately, she couldn't maintain the charade forever and even if she coud've, eventually P's needs and tastes morphed and she was no longer his flavor.

In Mayte's case, I think he had already molded/groomed her into what he wanted/needed and she willingly enjoyed that cuz she was learning about herself as well and their paths were entwined, but the death of Amiir flipped P so far on his head that he had to/needed to morph himself again out of self-preservation...but he morphed himself into something that couldn't mesh with the version of Mayte that he had helped mold/create and was she was unwilling to be molded in the direction he was headed in.

Let's say Mayte had accepted the JW doctrine and followed P into it...I think they would've still been together, but when he got to the point where it no longer resonated for him they still might've parted because they would've come to another crossroad of "I'm going this way". If she decided she couldn't follow him as he constantly morphed, he was never going to NOT morph. Any partner he had would've had to keep up with the changes P made and become the next partner...so he wouldn't find someone who could be the next partner.

Which is, of course, ludicrous to expect your whims to be accepted and enacted by your partner or you find a new one, but there ya go...

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

LBrent said:

Editing aside, Mayte never wrote or said in the book that Pburned the urn. It isn't in there. Sorry.

I am reading her book slowly and have not gotten to these parts myself. But it is out there all over the place, headlines saying mayte Garcia says prince burned their babies ashes. If she did not say that in the book, or elsewhere, then why on earth would she not put a stop to that disgusting rumor, she is being interviewed all over the place?

She does say in a later chapter that when folks go "low" she chooses to go high, like Michelle Obama. I think she feels by not addressing the lies she's being classy and taking the high road. I agree, when they say the wrong thing during interveiws I wish she'd correct them, but maybe she tinks "it's already in my book, if they read it they'll see that isn't true".

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CatB said:

LBrent said:

LBrent said:

kiki5490 said:

I noticed that the day Mayte's book come out and she is making all these apperances on TV, Mani (or M2) decides to change her FB profile picture a photo Prince took of her on their Marriage/honeymoon trip to Hawaii. All I could think of was someone (M2) is a little jealous and seeking some people to ackowledge that she was his most recent wife..... I just felt some shade toward Mayte with the timing of that profile pic change and her comment, "photo taken my a mystery photographer " Then today, Apples makes a comment under it with all sorts of praise and emoji's of this photo. To me, it looks like M2 thinks M1 is stealing the spotlight and she acting a little desparate. Something tells me to expect a new memoir from M2 in the near future but she will position it as all proceeds go to her charity so haters won't hate. M2 craves the attention she no longer gets and is resentful she is not part of the attention M1 is receiving. It seems like Mani and Apples have sister-wifed up against M1. SMH

Now let's comment on WHY someone who is "happily married" with 2 children and "family is her everything" would use a profile photo of herself from her first husband's wedding 17 years ago if they she wasn't needing attention? How on earth is that lifting up her current husband and showing her pride in what they have built together? It's a public slap in Eric's face!!! It's like Prince is her show pony and Eric is stud horse she leaves in the barn. Thoughts?

FINALLY someone says what I thought, too!

Sums up everything I was thinking, something along the lines of, "Heffa, ain't you re-married?"

As a married woman in a couple with a plethora of other married-couple friends, I can't visualize any husband that I know that would be that comfortable living in an ex-husbands shadow that flagrantly. It strikes me as entirely bizarre and disrespectful to the marriage covenant. Marriage is about you and your spouse being the prioritized team against all things and above all others; not me, you, and your ex-spouse, are you nuts? Even placing the shoe on the other foot imagining one of my girls having to say this to a husband? No M'am, Sam

morningsong said:

purplegirl00 said:

laurarichardson said: Yep, they are the same. I'm an equal opportunity goldigger flamer. The amusing thing here is that Mani gets attention by just posting a pic with a few words.

Yep.

The fallout if she does an interview, let alone a book...oh my.

I'm curious, Morningsong, have you read the book? I'm curious as to what particular parts people object to.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

LBrent said:

She does say in a later chapter that when folks go "low" she chooses to go high, like zmichelle Obama. I think she feels by not addressing the lies she's being classy and taking the high road. I agree, when they say the wrong thing during interveiws I wish she'd correct them, but maybe she tinks "it's already in my book, if they read it they'll see that isn't true".

It is not going "high" to not clear up a "rumor" of a disgusting action by the love of your life, somehow generated by your actions, especially when have just written 400 and some pages about him.

There were many rumors that went around about Prince that he never deigned to acknowledge or give it any credence. He simply ignored it. I think there was an interview in which he once said that he would let people believe whatever they wanted to believe, that was on them, but he would laugh that they could come up such outlandish stuff. Maybe Mayte learned from him to not engage the rumor mill, knowing it would run itself out, and that those that wanted to know the truth, would find the truth and not listen to the rumor mill.

morningsong said:

LBrent said:

Guuuuurl...

Somebody has that urn.

I'm not religious but there's got to be a special place wherever bad people go in the Afterlife where someone who would take the urn/ashes of someone's loved one, especially a child's remains.

I can't imagine wanting them. Weird item to steal.

Gurlll, the way stans are these days there's likely a market for a dead celebrities dirty drawers at the time they exit the earth. There are a lot of psycho fanatics out there, and especially when you're dealing with an icon of Prince's stature. I would hate to see what's desired or advertised re: him and other legends of his ilk on illicit forums like the Dark Net. Society and the insatiable longing for some people to feel close to celebrities can reach into bizarre territory with little regard for boundaries.

babynoz said:

annalizer said:

babynoz said: I smell trouble in paradise.

No man with an ounce of self respect would be okay with his wife obsessing over her ex like this.

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Maybe they just don't like her. Why would they be jeoulus of mayte, prince dumped her hard.

You have a point. As for Prince, there is/was no envy to want to live a similar experience.

I think the jealousy would be related to the attention Mayte is getting from the release of the book these days.

purplerabbithole said:

That is standard passive aggressive bs. You don't bring up something negative and then say but "I am not going into its details" leaving people to imagine the worse. If you are being generous, you leave it out completely or quickly state the fact and move on.... It is one thing to say," we had a fight" and then leave it like that. Its another thing to say "We had a fight but I am not going to go into it".

DD55 said:

In the book she is extremely kind to him, even in places where she could have easily blasted him. It maybe that they did have an argument / discussion / talk about it and he was a jerk about it, then when writing the book she decided not to go down that road and discuss it with anyone. That may be a detail she wants to keep private. I forget off hand but in a few places in the book she will mention something then say, 'that’s all I’m going to say on that subject' or words to that effect. Someone who read the book, correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks ~~DD55

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Is this how you felt after reading the book?

LBrent said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

LBrent said: I am reading her book slowly and have not gotten to these parts myself. But it is out there all over the place, headlines saying mayte Garcia says prince burned their babies ashes. If she did not say that in the book, or elsewhere, then why on earth would she not put a stop to that disgusting rumor, she is being interviewed all over the place?

She does say in a later chapter that when folks go "low" she chooses to go high, like Michelle Obama. I think she feels by not addressing the lies she's being classy and taking the high road. I agree, when they say the wrong thing during interveiws I wish she'd correct them, but maybe she tinks "it's already in my book, if they read it they'll see that isn't true".

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Did you see that horrendous interview on Australian morning tv? They steamrolled the **** out of her. I was offended as a woman and a person who's worked in media formats at how disrespectful the show hosts were. In all objectivity, I think she she have had a media training drill beofre she started her press junkets - so that she could head some of the more zealously unchivalrous particpants off at the pass. It was unbeleiveable to me that show hosts would so blatantly attack a guest like that, I don't care if it's a rock star's ex-wife or a popsicle chef. It was foul.

Ottensen said:

morningsong said:

I can't imagine wanting them. Weird item to steal.

Gurlll, the way stans are these days there's likely a market for a dead celebrities dirty drawers at the time they exit the earth. There are a lot of psycho fanatics out there, and especially when you're dealing with an icon of Prince's stature. I would hate to see what's desired or advertised re: him and other legends of his ilk on illicit forums like the Dark Net. Society and the insatiable longing for some people to feel close to celebrities can reach into bizarre territory with little regard for boundaries.

Yup.

I remember awhile back somebody who had worked for Marilyn Monroe's gynecologist, this person tried to auction MM's pap smear.

First off, ew!

Second, what kinda whackadoodle would buy it???

I never heard if it sold.

Someone saw Justin Beiber eating at a restaurant early in his career and saved his partially eaten sandwich, which was then auctioned on EBay.

More to the point, I don't think the urn was stolen by a whackadoodle fan. I think the urn is somewhere...purple. And not being given to Mayte for spiteful reasons.

I can't prove that, of course. It's a gut feeling. I also think that after the spiteful reson faded, they couldn't be revealed without revealing who had them and the reason that person took them. Until that person decides to be honest...no urn for Mayte. It's a Catch-22 situation.

Just my opinion, of course.

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