rogifan said:

IstenSzek said:

just reserve a large wall or corridor inside paisley park for notes and little items from fans
that they can leave after the tour. done.

According to the local paper they're creating an online wall where people will be able to post tributes. This online wall will include stuff that was left at PP.

that's a nice idea too. plus, it can be seen by everyone, everywhere that way, which is nice

Revolution said:

RJOrion said:

1Sasha said:

I understand that people grieve in different ways. Shame on Prince for not leaving the documents necessary to avoid this quagmire. "Regular" people don't know how to play at his level. He even didn't know how to properly handle his business affairs.

I believe in another thread on the org is the statement that she has retained new legal counsel, dismissing her other attorneys. There is fighting amongst the siblings with Bremer Trust. By the way, do you know where your sibling(s) bank? She seemed to know, rather quickly, in April whom to ask to oversee the Estate. Maybe her monthly allotment came from Bremer. I cannot shake the feeling that they would all be happy to have money now and to let the rest of the estate go. JMO

I can't shake the feeling that Prince DID leave an estate plan/will. I'll never believe otherwise. Somebody knows something, including certain family members. I'm convinced.

FlyOnTheWall said:

1Sasha said:

I understand that people grieve in different ways. Shame on Prince for not leaving the documents necessary to avoid this quagmire. "Regular" people don't know how to play at his level. He even didn't know how to properly handle his business affairs.

I believe in another thread on the org is the statement that she has retained new legal counsel, dismissing her other attorneys. There is fighting amongst the siblings with Bremer Trust. By the way, do you know where your sibling(s) bank? She seemed to know, rather quickly, in April whom to ask to oversee the Estate. Maybe her monthly allotment came from Bremer. I cannot shake the feeling that they would all be happy to have money now and to let the rest of the estate go. JMO

I can't shake the feeling that Prince DID leave an estate plan/will. I'll never believe otherwise. Somebody knows something, including certain family members. I'm convinced.

The blind leading the blind.

EmmaMcG said:

That's all well and good, I'm not in any hurry for them to open the vault and release some previously unreleased music. I just hope that when it does happen, they don't hold back on releasing any songs that may feature themes which contradict his JW beliefs, which I think may happen. I'd doubt they'll be releasing sexually explicit material, regardless of how good the song may be. I still believe that the best way of doing it is to create a website and put every single unreleased song they have on it for download and charge 50 cent - 1 dollar/euro per song. They could still release collectors edition versions of the big albums with unreleased songs bundled in for those of us who prefer physical stuff.

Since they're having tribute parties for Prince with liquor, just five months after his passing, I'd bet money that they won't withhold unreleased music because of explicit lyrics.

tish9311 said:

Genesia said:

It depends how you do it. Frankly, there's really nothing to bitch about with respect to this because no one is making you pay that amount. There are lower-priced tickets - or you could just stay home.

And, yes - what did Prince charge for a meet and greet?

This is my opinion-it makes whomever{let's not assume this is just Tyka alone} seem to play into the handos the people talking about the family on wanting Prince's money. It is my opinion.

For the record, I will be at the party-not doing the meet and greet with the family.

I thought Bremer, McMillan and Koppleman were in control of the estate?

I don't think these parties have anything to do with the estate, other than the involvement of his siblings. PRNFamily is a new entity that lists Omar Baker as its principal.

NinaB said:

Good luck Tyka, you're doing the best u can, that's all anyone can do. I dread 2 think of the massive amount of work & responsibilities that have fallen into your lap. All the changes & challenges whilst you are grieving.

That's not all that has fallen into Tyka's lap, NinaB.

rogifan said:

www.facebook.com/tyka.nel...4585882005

Hi, Please understand that I'm Doing The VERY Best I Can! Don't 4 Get I've Lost from this Earth someone I've been with All My Life...He Loves U and I Will Make Sure My WONDERFUL Brother/Friend/Man/Musician/Entertainer and Son of GOD! WILL Remain Accessible 2 the Ones Who Loved him 2 Prince Lives... Eternally ~Tyka

I sometimes need to remind myself that while I lost an artist I loved dearly Tyka lost a brother. Even if they didn't always have the best relationship they were FAMILY and they loved each other. The fans are important but it's not just about the fans. I'm sure she is doing the best she can right now. 💜

I can't even begin to imagine all that Tyka is dealing with; however, this is only the beginning. I wish her well, but this all comes with the territory, that of being an heiress to a rock and roll god. One piece of advice for Tyka: TAKE A PAGE OUT OF THE PRINCE PLAYBOOK: LIMIT INTERVIEWS. USE THE MEDIA SPARINGLY AND STRATEGICALLY. OTHERWISE, THEY WILL CHEW YOU UP AND SPIT YOU OUT.

FlyOnTheWall said:

purplethunder3121 said:

RJOrion said:

NinaB said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That's not all that has fallen into Tyka's lap, NinaB.

You mean money right? All the tea in China can't replace a loved one. Believe I know. I ain't gonna lie, I have my worries over so many parties being involved - Bremer, Graceland, 6 sibs, McM & Kopp. Dave Hampton saying the sibs communicate thru lawyers concerns me (IF that's accurate). BUT I will say Tyka has done nothing so far that disturbs me. I pray she has good peep around & good counsel to help. My spirit took 2 her frm many yrs ago. I also feel her boys & Alfred & Omarr are good peep too. I can't speak on any of the other parties involved. I have said b4 I wish someone would say something 2 shut down the slanderous shite I've seen about P. But I do get its not up 2 me & most likely they are honoring P's long time example regarding such things. [Edited 9/30/16 21:15pm]

Yes, I do mean money. But I don't mean that the money somehow replaces Prince. It would be insensitive for me to suggest any such thing. I'm just saying that along with "the massive amount of work & responsibilities that have fallen into [Tyka's] lap" is an almost incalculable fortune. As Luke 12:48 declares, and I'm paraphrasing, "To whom much is given, much is required." I've read that Tyka is a devout Christian, so I think she understands this.

FlyOnTheWall said:

derrick31 said:

26ten said:

rogifan said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Since they're having tribute parties for Prince with liquor, just five months after his passing, I'd bet money that they won't withhold unreleased music because of explicit lyrics.

As far as I know when P performed at venues other than PP there was no ban on alcohol. Your argument might hold water if the official tours were offering alcohol, but they're not.

Someone made this same point earlier, rogifan. As I said then, those performances at other venues were not sponsored by Prince or his representatives. And speaking of PP, as several have suggested on other threads, it would seem that Paisley Park would have been the obvious choice for the PRNFamily tribute parties. After all, PP will be officially open for tours by that time ... and we know that having the parties at PP would have meant far more to fams. So, the point some have made, including myself, is that his family seemingly chose to have the Prince tribute parties at that venue, which has less seating capacity than PP, because they serve liquor. But that aside, the Muse Event Center looks to be very nice. I hope everyone has a wonderful time. Lastly, and to return to my original point in this regard, I reason (and pray!) that, since Prince's JW conversion didn't factor into this venue choice, it is not likely to keep the estate from releasing his never-before-heard explicit music in The Vault.

http://musemn.com/event-spaces/

[Edited 10/1/16 4:26am]

[Edited 10/1/16 4:27am]

FlyOnTheWall said:

tish9311 said:

This is my opinion-it makes whomever{let's not assume this is just Tyka alone} seem to play into the handos the people talking about the family on wanting Prince's money. It is my opinion.

For the record, I will be at the party-not doing the meet and greet with the family.

I thought Bremer, McMillan and Koppleman were in control of the estate?

I don't think these parties have anything to do with the estate, other than the involvement of his siblings. PRNFamily is a new entity that lists Omar Baker as its principal.

Thanks for the investigative work. I didn't know if this was really a family situation or not. That is why I took Tyka off total blast and shared my side eye with everybody. My opinon hasn't changed and I will be in the 3121 section.

tish9311 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I don't think these parties have anything to do with the estate, other than the involvement of his siblings. PRNFamily is a new entity that lists Omar Baker as its principal.

Thanks for the investigative work. I didn't know if this was really a family situation or not. That is why I took Tyka off total blast and shared my side eye with everybody. My opinon hasn't changed and I will be in the 3121 section.

Actually, this information was posted on another thread here on The Org.

http://prince.org/msg/7/432573

TrivialPursuit said:

PRNFamily.com, .net, and .org were just purchased a month ago today (20.Aug.2016), so you could almost surmise it's going to be a site coming up. They also list the contact as Omar Baker. The address for the person who registered is 115 King Creek Road (this is public information, by the way). If you look at an article by TheCurrent.org when they listed Prince's properties, it lists that address as where Mattie & Hayward lived: http://blog.thecurrent.or...-property/ One could think that Omar lives there now.

PS I once noted that Prince owned a house on Dakota Avenue in Chanhassen ( http://prince.org/msg/7/423014 ), very close to Paisley Park. That same house is listed in that article.

Prince loved Tyka very much. People keep forgetting they are blood siblings.

StopIt said:

Tyka and the other relatives never asked for this job, and never proclaimed publicly that they are the most prepared people in the world to handle his estate. They were thrust into this because, for whatever reason, Prince didn't make any arrangements for something different to happen, and so it falls to the law to determine who's the beneficiaries.

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If you have a problem with his family's involvement, then it's really Prince you should be blaming.

SheLovesMeNot said:

StopIt said:

With all due respect, must call b.s.

Given the utter Slew of legal, administrative, business folks, and their underlings retained by her and others to be paid in specified billable minutes for what they're claiming to be doing on Prince's dime on her behalf and on behalf of the other beneficiaries, there should be/is very minimal being asked of her, frankly.

However, such clients who have never functioned consistently in this world with any structured work ethic, nor ever even been self-sufficient in meeting their own most basic, real world, daily demands financially as others must, anything would be "overwhelming."

Those who loved him do know this is not "the very best" folks can do on any level, and hasn't been from the beginning. If anything, true grief would push you to function harder.

Totally Agree!

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Prince loved Tyka very much. People keep forgetting they are blood siblings.

Blood doesn't mean much.

purplethunder3121 said:

SanDiegoFunkDaddy said:

Prince loved Tyka very much. People keep forgetting they are blood siblings.

Blood doesn't mean much.

I know firsthand, it doesn't mean ish to some.

I'm still reeling over no public memorial for this megastar. Can't get my head around it.

[Edited 10/2/16 13:19pm]

rogifan said:

sonshine said:

rogifan said:

From the medical examiner's report we know what caused the death. Setting aside conspiracy theories (I think they're silly and just harm his legacy) do we need to know more? We certainly don't have the right to know more and honestly I don't want to. None of that is going to bring him back. If people need to know all the intimate details of his last days to find "closure" then maybe they need to seek help.

AMEN!

endiadj said:

rogifan said:

endiadj said:

I know firsthand, it doesn't mean ish to some.

I'm still reeling over no public memorial for this megastar. Can't get my head around it.

[Edited 10/2/16 13:19pm]

This may sound harsh but at this point people need to get over the no public memorial. A public memorial for a celebrity is the exception not the rule. Most celebrities don't have them.

Personally, I've never cared for big public memorials. They seem so unecessarily gauche and gaudy. Like someone has something to prove. They've already had 3 important services: 1. Private for family, 2. At his place of worship, 3. Private for freinds. There are publce tributes for fans, but hinestly dragging this out seems to prolong the healing process. I'm doing better by simply listening to live performances, music, etc and immersing myslf in a purple bubble of denial.

Frankly, I don't think P would want a bunch of carrying on over him.

rogifan said:

endiadj said:

I know firsthand, it doesn't mean ish to some.

I'm still reeling over no public memorial for this megastar. Can't get my head around it.

[Edited 10/2/16 13:19pm]

This may sound harsh but at this point people need to get over the no public memorial. A public memorial for a celebrity is the exception not the rule. Most celebrities don't have them.

Of course I'll get over it, cause I have to, but it doesn't mean it just seems wrong. Ex-wives wouldn't have needed to put on their own to mourn him. Maybe it would've helped people/fans heal faster, better. It's just seems incomplete, imo. He deserved a public memorial. He should've had one.

[Edited 10/3/16 5:40am]