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Krystalkisses said:
terrig said:
This. You can see this in Madonna as well.
And MJ.
Is that what happened to Seinfeld?
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Krystalkisses said:
And MJ.
Is that what happened to Seinfeld?
That I can't speak to ...I don't know much about Jerry.
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Krystalkisses said:
morningsong said:
Is that what happened to Seinfeld?
That I can't speak to ...I don't know much about Jerry.
Same thing, married a really young girl, she grew up, they divorced.
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fanoftheman said: I don't know. I have no doubt he could probably be difficult to live with, but still it would have to hurt somewhat that she was selling her engagement ring. And now she claims he was "everything" to her? Some of this seems so phony, but who am I to say.
Yeah I have to say.. I have though that too but I'm not sure Mayte really took anything did she? The house he brought for her in Spain or wherever was in his name and was sold in 2001 I think I read somewhere so compared to Mani who is worried what everyone will find out about their Divorce settment.. I dont think Mayte got much from their Divorce. But lets face it theyre all cashing in a bit now .. Sheila E is touring flat out, Mayte is selling out her Belly Dancing and The Revolution etc all doing stuff.. and we havent even had a proper Family Authorised Tribute yet..
All still looking to make a buck off him.
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morningsong said:
Krystalkisses said:
That I can't speak to ...I don't know much about Jerry.
Same thing, married a really young girl, she grew up, they divorced.
i happened to have had a front row seat to that ....and yeah-up. lololol
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This is how I look at Prince's marriages.
We don't know what happened and what broke them up. Yes, we "hear" and read stuff about what some of the reasoning might be BUT unless we personally knew the man and the couple, we don't know jack.
We can't believe everything read or hear from other insiders, including people from the Org.
I didn't know him. I can assume all I want and infer all I want but in reality, I didn't know what broke them up. And I kinda don't care anymore. I just miss Prince, seeing his presence and knowing that he won't be on any more award shows or make any grand entrances at awards shows like the NAACP Image Awards really hurts my heart
-- Funny how there is no interest when we find out MT ran around on his.
There is no interest on my part simply because I didn't know the man. I don't know why his marriages failed, to either Mayte or Mani.
And I DON'T care. All I know is that I won't be able to see Prince on any more award shows. Or see the chance for him and Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis to do that project they talked about. Or see him on the cover of Ebony again. Or read his finished memoir.
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Krystalkisses said:
LBrent said As far as P's choices of females, I think he always thought like a teenager in his choices cuz that's where he was stunted emotionally. He was a sexy, charming, kind, generous, 57 year old who was still emotionally 17-19 years old. Women saw a sexy rich grown up and were infatuated. He saw females the age he felt inside and was infatuated. As the females matured, he didn't catch up with them emotionally. That's death to a relationship.
Wow, that is so true! I think in some other thread on here, someone mentioned a theory that the age someone became famous is the mental age they are throughout their life. That would coencide with the age range you suggested.
That's not exactly true. LIFE and having LIFE EXPERIENCES changes your mental age. MJ "grew up" when he finally had those 3 kids to raise. Same with Madonna, there is no way that Madonna "mentally acts" like a 21 year old.
Prince was the same way. He grew up as well. When he was in his 20's, he dated women around his age. BUT as he got older, like after 33ish, his "girlfriends" got younger and younger to the point they were teens.
He got with teen girls and married young women because they were easier to control. Period. Half the crap he pulled with Nona and Anna, there was no way a woman around his age that he knew would take that mess.
Leo DiCaprio does the same thing, and he definetely does not act like a 12 years (around the time he got famous). Let's just call it as it is.
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wavesofbliss said:
GhostChick said:
We can't blame everything on childhood. Eventually, children become adults who have their own life experiences that can help shape the decisons they make as later adults.
Prince had some failed relationships and marriages. Period. It happens.
And to be honest, being together and STAYING together is not the barometer of a healthy and happy marriage either.
i appreciate what you're saying here but prince really is the bad guy in a lot of his break-ups. that is not to say that he WAS a bad guy,but he obviously didn't know how have a relationships, to take in love and care and nuturing. tht made toxic in so many ways.
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i would add that having a willingness to stay in a relationship and work through problems is a good barometer for a healthy marriage. prince was clearly NOT willing to do that with either marriage and other business relationships. "my way or i'm leavin" is not healthy,wise or mature. but that's exactly how he lived in ALL of his relationships. and a lifetime of wreckage behind you doesn't speak well of person - prince or anyone else.
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i don't remember mayte saying anything bitchy about him when they divorced. she seemed to fall off the earth and then resurfaced with tommy lee for a minute. i always thought the rumors about a shotgun wedding were bitchy and unfounded. she was a healthy 22 yo how hard is it for them to get pregnant when u stop taking ur pills. people are just being shady.
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Krystalkisses said:
morningsong said:
Krystalkisses said:
And MJ.
Is that what happened to Seinfeld?
That I can't speak to ...I don't know much about Jerry. --- You can't speak on any of them because you don't know any of them. Older guys have liked young women since the begining of time. Men like looking and being around attractive women it is as normal as the birds and bees. Everybody is different Jerry has a couple of kids and is still married he was so old when he had to marry a young wife to have kids. Charlie Chaplin's wife was younger then him and she stayed with him until he died and they had nine kids. |
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jayseajay said:
Krystalkisses said:
I have a B.A. in Psychology so I have a bit of background in stuff like this and it is true our brains get flooded with feel good neroutransmitters and create a sense of euphoria with new romances and it can feel intoxicating and addicting...partially it's natures way to design us to procrate and stay together long enough to have children...but those feelings can dwindle as time goes on (usually at a two year mark ) and then people either advance into a more "mature" kind of love or breakup....however, research has shown couples can reawaken these feelings by engaging in new or novel experiences together to trigger some of those same neroutransmitters and make you feel "in love" again...
...as for Prince he was a true romantic, a poet, an artist...all these new girls in his life were like a spark of new inspiration that added to his creative output....but I'm not sure how he felt about that...I wonder if he felt ambivalent about his casannova ways or he really wanted a "deeper" love...perhaps at different stages in his life he wanted different things...
I suspect he did feel ambivalent, at least in part...but I think it went so deep, the power of that idealization, and he was so. damn. good. at. it. I can imagine its hard to give that up for something more prosaic like a real longterm partnership...but also, it was part of his defense mechanisms I think...because all the time you're in that inital rush, everyone has stars in their eyes and doves in their brain, and you don't really have to let ppl see the real person, who I suspect he still didn't really believe was loveable.
I feel like this is 100% spot on! But Prince always had his one true love and that was MUSIC-he had it from an early age. He had to be in control and was the type to live in the momet and never look back. Unfortunately, his abandonment and troubled childhood shaped his ability to interact with others and led to his inability to sustain a long term relationship. He was once reportedly asked by a journalist why he was such a control freak and he replied, “What if everyone left me and there was no one around except me? I gotta know how to control things on my own." I think deep down he had a terrible fear of being alone, which makes it all the more sad that he was left alone when he died. ❤ You're filthy cute and baby you know it...❤ |
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Rock stars, actors and rich businessmen have liked Younger women since the days of old.
It doesn't matter if they come from broken homes or 2 parent homes with love being shown everyday.
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and yeah we all know she loved him enough for a greencard, some reflected shine and some money to roll on. which equals didn't love him as much as benet.
--- She was a fan. Described as obsessed with Prince by college mates, a loner. When she finally came into the holy river chatroom it was with a mission and she got it. She was hired for the gift shop, then promoted to his tour crew manager, then personal assistant; then wife, at which time, they moved to LA. ... Eric Benet.
WOW! That is very interesting information about their divorce settlement and what MT received. Have their divorce documents already been made public? Or have you seen them? Are they available online somewhere? I am only curious.
Also, I don't understand why MT would be afraid of those documents being unsealed for fear of something to do with drug use UNLESS she knows there was something to that effect contained in the official record. I mean, she was there, she knows what was contained in the pleadings, deposition testimony, etc. So if drug usage was not an issue then there would be no mention of it in the divorce documents which were sealed. The public will not gain access to attorney work product. ❤ You're filthy cute and baby you know it...❤ |
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malbena said:
strawberrylova123 said:
Not trying to be rude but who is this synergy person??
For a moment, I thought it was Eric Benet. Please forgive me if I'm wrong.
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jayseajay said:
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No, we are exclusively and only interested in his penis. Thanks for stopping by!
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Krystalkisses said:
jayseajay said:
No, we are exclusively and only interested in his penis. Thanks for stopping by!
....girl you are hilarious.
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No, I don't think he ever dealt with it. He just kept moving forwards all the time, and I really don't think he ever learned how to let himself feel bad stuff or acknowledge bad stuff...and yes, Mayte was a casualty of that, and in the end, I think P was himself... If I had a time machine I'd go and wring his mother's neck first of all...but then he might never have become the incredible thing he became
Prince and Mayte's relationship/marriage was very complicated. Mayte was very young when she met Prince and they developed a friendship over time. The story I heard is that Mayte became Pregnant with Prince's child and so they got married. Sadly, they lost their newborn son (you already know this story), but what I'm trying to say here is that there is more to the story than what is put out on social media, and Prince was a very private person. I'm not saying Prince was perfect; he certainly had his faults, but so did Mayte. She did some "unkind" things to Prince as well and when he had the marriage annulled, she went on FB with her Mother and said unkind things about Prince. Prince never once bad-mouthed Mayte. He showed respect for the Mother of his child (deceased). Their love affair seemed like it was a fairy tale in most of our eye's, but I think there was a lot going on there than we know, and it's not really our business to know. The divorce had to have been very hard on them both.
Now, as for Prince's Mother and Father.....they probably weren't the best people equipped to be "parents". I think leaving home at the age of 12 and basically being on your own really changes you. Maybe Prince was always looking for that "true love", and he never got it? I don't know, but I think he tried. He really matured later on and became a better person. I give him so much credit for that because I come from a broken home, so I know what it's like not having that "father figure" around and a loving Mom. Sorry, I said more here than I should have, LOL.
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I agree with most of what you say...but I don't take the fact that she badmouthed him while he didn't really in his favor in this instance. He had all the power in that relationship, not only the age-gap, but also his status and y'now, him being the sexiest mofo in the world, Matye was not playing on a level field in that relationship, at all...I'm sure it was more complicated than we know, but my impression has always been that he emotinally abandoned her after the babies died...and tbh, he shouldn't have left his decision of who to marry to the chance of who happened to get pregnant...and then layered the whole thing with some intensely romanticized narrative about being soulmates and some previous life in Egypt...that's fucked up. I totally get why he was like this, and I have an enormous amount of compassion for the way his childhood left him with certain intimacy issues...but that also doesn't change the fact that I think he really did a number on Mayte, and yes, he did become a better person...because basically he had an amazing heart and soul...but he still sometimes treated women in a way that makes my hair stand on end.
First of all there was no Facebook in the late 90's when the baby died and the split happened. And second of all he DID bad mouth her. After the baby died he went on his website and said that hair dye and nail polish caused birth defects!!!! He was roundabout BLAMING her for the baby's death, by posting things about medical studies but not calling her out by name. Imagine that ladies, your husband putting you through that right after the loss of your child from birth defects, all the while making you put on a show for the public about the truth. He made her act like nothing had happened and deny that the baby had passed away. I cannot imagine it. I saw the post on his website with my OWN eyes so I know that it is true.
I loved and still love Prince with all of my heart, but I will NOT change the facts that I know to be true now that he has passed just because it might reflect badly on him. All of us old timers and even more his bandmates, friends, exes, and ex-wives know EXACTLY who he was with all his flaws and still love him anyway. Most of them were wronged big time by the man but still loved him enough to want to take care of him, and be there for him in spite of their pain caused my him. And the most wronged of all these people of all by a MILE was Mayte. She loved him so much she never got over him, and you could see the love she still had for him all over her face on that show she was on. She would have went back to him in a second if he had asked. And after all he did to her, that is LOVE! [Edited 8/25/16 12:09pm] |
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Synergy said: wavesofbliss said:
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Maybe we should think about it. It seems like she was reaching out. Does anyone know what kind of response she got on her fb? Maybe a fam hug would help...
Is this a new post from Mani? I haven't been on Facebook yet. When she posted about the Strib filing, I replied don't worry, most of us from the holy river know what happened at the time. They're not telling us something new (yes, mildly snaky). But then I read the motion my the strib and I went researching their assumption with the U4770 and, with what I read, I became enraged and even more sad for him, because the things they're saying are all foul. So, I sent her prayers, because she had replied she felt helpless against drug charges during their marriage, and that if he were here, they would fight against this together. (Basically, the strib wants to know if she may have helped him with the preferred method of "administration" - which I think is pure BS. That would not be in Divorce records, she agreed.) Now we know, the U4770 was in the counterfeit pills along with the Fentanyl. So, they're going to expose all the dirt. Prince didn't want a divorce, wouldn't sign or accept papers. it's in the partial divorce decree from 2010. The rest seems to have disappeared, but fam around back then know what happened and She was hated by many. I think she does/did care for Prince, but not as much as he thought she had or does love her current husband. Do a search, it was all over the org (and everywhere) back then.
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She was a fan. Described as obsessed with Prince by college mates, a loner.
When she finally came into the holy river chatroom it was with a mission and she got it. She was hired for the gift shop, then promoted to his tour crew manager, then personal assistant; then wife, at which time, they moved to LA.
... Eric Benet.
Yep, it's all true. I was on the message boards way back in the late 1990's and saw her posting on the boards. She was a super obsessed collage student from CAnada. I thought it was strange that her screen name was her REAL name! Like her real first and last name : Manuela Testolini. I remember thinking it was a unusual name, and when I started hearing about him dating this chick I said hummm, it's the that same super fan chick from the boards? It was all so weird. [Edited 9/1/16 21:06pm] |
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Synergy said: Yep, it's all true. I was on the message boards way back in the early 1990's and saw her posting on the boards. She was a super obsessed collage student from CAnada. I thought it was strange that her screen name was her REAL name! Like her real first and last name : Manuela Testolini. I remember thinking it was a unusual name, and when I started hearing about him dating this chick I said hummm, it's the that same super fan chick from the boards? It was all so weird.
Do you guys think that part of the hate she receives stems from jealousy of achieving her goal? I'm just asking This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money. |
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malbena said:
Purplealegria7 said:
Synergy said: Yep, it's all true. I was on the message boards way back in the early 1990's and saw her posting on the boards. She was a super obsessed collage student from CAnada. I thought it was strange that her screen name was her REAL name! Like her real first and last name : Manuela Testolini. I remember thinking it was a unusual name, and when I started hearing about him dating this chick I said hummm, it's the that same super fan chick from the boards? It was all so weird.
Do you guys think that part of the hate she receives stems from jealousy of achieving her goal? I'm just asking
Do you think all the criticisim P got around here stems from jealousy of achieving his goal? I'm just asking
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Purplealegria7 said: Synergy said: Yep, it's all true. I was on the message boards way back in the early 1990's and saw her posting on the boards. She was a super obsessed collage student from CAnada. I thought it was strange that her screen name was her REAL name! Like her real first and last name : Manuela Testolini. I remember thinking it was a unusual name, and when I started hearing about him dating this chick I said hummm, it's the that same super fan chick from the boards? It was all so weird. Sheesh I'm curious if those posts still exist or did she have sense enough to remove them after she got what she was after. Maybe those posts are part of what she wants to keep out of the media? |
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terrig said:
malbena said:
Do you guys think that part of the hate she receives stems from jealousy of achieving her goal? I'm just asking
Do you think all the criticisim P got around here stems from jealousy of achieving his goal? I'm just asking
Nope. I think the criticism he receives are from those who love him and realizes he is not perfect. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if other artists would be jealous of him because of his high popularity and how he pushed to see the ledge.
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malbena said:
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Do you think all the criticisim P got around here stems from jealousy of achieving his goal? I'm just asking
Nope. I think the criticism he receives are from those who love him and realizes he is not perfect. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if other artists would be jealous of him because of his high popularity and how he pushed to see the ledge.
Ok then... jealousy isnt a valid prism for discounting what many think of Mani.
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malbena said:
Purplealegria7 said:
Synergy said: Yep, it's all true. I was on the message boards way back in the early 1990's and saw her posting on the boards. She was a super obsessed collage student from CAnada. I thought it was strange that her screen name was her REAL name! Like her real first and last name : Manuela Testolini. I remember thinking it was a unusual name, and when I started hearing about him dating this chick I said hummm, it's the that same super fan chick from the boards? It was all so weird.
Do you guys think that part of the hate she receives stems from jealousy of achieving her goal? I'm just asking
I wouldn't call it jealousy per se, but I do think that the fact she was an uber fan first makes some people suspect her motives in marrying him. (Some think she broke up his first marriage but I'm skeptical of that line of thinking. Of course, none uf us knows.)
I'm not saying that's me. I was off of Prince during that time (just life stuff) so I have no preference for one wife/girlfriend over another. I think some around here remember her from early discussion boards and from her time working at PP so maybe it's based on interactions with her? Then she's compared to Mayte and that's such a tragic story there's almost no way to come out looking good.
Personally, as much as I love P, I think once he was in his thirties he mostly stopped dating his contemporaries and went for the young ones. Mayte was much too young for him, but, really, so was MT. She was a recent college grad in her early 20s and the comments of her college mates just make her seem naive (I work with college students so I see this in her). He was at least 40 when they got together depending on when they actually starting dating...I'm not sure either ever actually said. Both wives were his employees first so he had the power in the relationship, in addition to being a whole lot older. I think we can see that the loss of the baby was devastating to his first marriage, although I'm not sure it would have lasted anyway. But it's also possible that both women became a bit feisty as they grew up, and did not want to put up with things. Anyway, divorce is rarely just one person's fault so, yeah, I can't blame MT for the demise of her marriage or his first marriage but she sure does get the hate around here.
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terrig said:
malbena said:
Do you guys think that part of the hate she receives stems from jealousy of achieving her goal? I'm just asking
Do you think all the criticisim P got around here stems from jealousy of achieving his goal? I'm just asking
Some of the criticism of P is constructive, some is honest opinion, but some of it is just baffling. (I don't mean you, but I'm just saying... ) |
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