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Reply #120 posted 08/23/16 8:42pm

Iamtheorg

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purplerabbithole said:

Synergy said:

wavesofbliss said:

Is it possible she was infatuated with him, thought she loved him but then realized that this workaholic ways meant little time with the man, so she cheated due to loneliness.

Its not right but its understandable.

lol

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Reply #121 posted 08/23/16 8:43pm

strawberrylova
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Not trying to be rude but who is this synergy person??
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Reply #122 posted 08/23/16 8:45pm

malbena

strawberrylova123 said:

Not trying to be rude but who is this synergy person??

lol lol For a moment, I thought it was Eric Benet. Please forgive me if I'm wrong.

This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.
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Reply #123 posted 08/23/16 8:46pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Iamtheorg said:

purplerabbithole said:

Is it possible she was infatuated with him, thought she loved him but then realized that this workaholic ways meant little time with the man, so she cheated due to loneliness.

Its not right but its understandable.

lol

Love your name.

bananadance

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Reply #124 posted 08/23/16 8:47pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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malbena said:

strawberrylova123 said:

Not trying to be rude but who is this synergy person??

lol lol For a moment, I thought it was Eric Benet. Please forgive me if I'm wrong.

OMG I just spit my wine on my monitor.
Stop.

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Reply #125 posted 08/23/16 8:49pm

malbena

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

malbena said:

lol lol For a moment, I thought it was Eric Benet. Please forgive me if I'm wrong.

OMG I just spit my wine on my monitor.
Stop.

lol lol lol

This is my normal life. These marital standards cannot be recreated with money.
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Reply #126 posted 08/23/16 9:01pm

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I guess I am not as cynical.

Iamtheorg said:

purplerabbithole said:

Is it possible she was infatuated with him, thought she loved him but then realized that this workaholic ways meant little time with the man, so she cheated due to loneliness.

Its not right but its understandable.

lol

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Reply #127 posted 08/23/16 9:07pm

GhostChick

wavesofbliss said:

GhostChick said:

We can't blame everything on childhood. Eventually, children become adults who have their own life experiences that can help shape the decisons they make as later adults.

Prince had some failed relationships and marriages. Period. It happens.

And to be honest, being together and STAYING together is not the barometer of a healthy and happy marriage either.

i appreciate what you're saying here but prince really is the bad guy in a lot of his break-ups. that is not to say that he WAS a bad guy,but he obviously didn't know how have a relationships, to take in love and care and nuturing. tht made toxic in so many ways.

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Um, we are sayin the same thing.

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Reply #128 posted 08/23/16 9:08pm

wavesofbliss

malbena said:

strawberrylova123 said:

Not trying to be rude but who is this synergy person??

lol lol For a moment, I thought it was Eric Benet. Please forgive me if I'm wrong.

razz :rolling:

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Reply #129 posted 08/23/16 9:14pm

GhostChick

Krystalkisses said:

wavesofbliss said:

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i would add that having a willingness to stay in a relationship and work through problems is a good barometer for a healthy marriage. prince was clearly NOT willing to do that with either marriage and other business relationships. "my way or i'm leavin" is not healthy,wise or mature. but that's exactly how he lived in ALL of his relationships. and a lifetime of wreckage behind you doesn't speak well of person - prince or anyone else.

highfive I totally agree with you. That is why people say marriage is work, because a loving marriage can force you to grow, compromise, consider others...I think that is the whole point...you commit to someone to grow together, support and love eachother through good times and bad. It isn't always going to be a fairy tail but it feels good that someone always has your back. Marriage is something to fight for.

And I love Prince, have immense respect for him and am in awe of his talent but the dude was a piece of work. I mean I think his second wife was forced to file for divorce because he refused to talk to her and communicate. How can you deal with someone like that? She is not the only person he's acted that way towards. Prince was always the BOSS and always had the power, both with women and bandmates and the such. He pushed a lot of strong, loving people away....I'm not blaming everything on his childhood but in all honesty it is the foundation of our lives and it sets the tone for alot in our lives as we grow. If there is neglect and abuse, someone is just NOT going to learn how to love or accept love from others. They can be very rejecting, controlling and have poor communication skills. If you become so engrained in your habits that you can't even see what you or doing or why you are doing them.

Oh and also I actually do think Prince's willingness to marry Mayte because of getting her pregnant (if that is true) is actually very honorable and speaks highly of his character. I think Prince was old school and he came from a different generation so I think his intentions were good. Even though he does not strike me as someone who would have made a good husband.

No, Prince dating an 19/20 years and he was pushing 40 was not really that honorable. I mean, really? Get someone around your own age or at least closer to your adult age.

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Reply #130 posted 08/23/16 9:18pm

GhostChick

This is how I look at Prince's marriages.

We don't know what happened and what broke them up. Yes, we "hear" and read stuff about what some of the reasoning might be BUT unless we personally knew the man and the couple, we don't know jack.

We can't believe everything read or hear from other insiders, including people from the Org.

I didn't know him. I can assume all I want and infer all I want but in reality, I didn't know what broke them up. And I kinda don't care anymore. I just miss Prince, seeing his presence and knowing that he won't be on any more award shows or make any grand entrances at awards shows like the NAACP Image Awards really hurts my heart cry

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Reply #131 posted 08/23/16 9:23pm

tmo1965

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Okay guys, thanks for feedback. I'll send message when I wake up tmrw. If you want to co-sign can you let me know what name to put by replying to this...

Thanks. Man, the last couple of days have been hard. I'm glad you're all here. Prince2Eternity grouphug

cosign: tmo1965

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Reply #132 posted 08/23/16 9:26pm

tmo1965

Synergy said:

wavesofbliss said:

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and yeah we all know she loved him enough for a greencard, some reflected shine and some money to roll on. which equals didn't love him as much as benet. wink

--- She was a fan. Described as obsessed with Prince by college mates, a loner. When she finally came into the holy river chatroom it was with a mission and she got it. She was hired for the gift shop, then promoted to his tour crew manager, then personal assistant; then wife, at which time, they moved to LA. ... Eric Benet.

An obsessed fan with a man on the rebound. That's a great receipe for a good marriage. Sarcasm

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Reply #133 posted 08/23/16 9:40pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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tmo1965 said:

Synergy said:

wavesofbliss said:

An obsessed fan with a man on the rebound. That's a great receipe for a good marriage. Sarcasm

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Reply #134 posted 08/23/16 10:40pm

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Reply #135 posted 08/24/16 12:22am

DollyDagger

LBrent said:

1Sasha said:
Excellent message to Jill. Just perfect as it is. Thank you for writing it.
It was a nice gesture. I just wish that when she saw what made her uncomfortable she would have been more proactive in putting her feelings into action. I'm not placing any blame on her, but I think we all wish things could've ended differently. I wish her peace.

Please send the note to Jill!!! Always thought she was the coolest.

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Reply #136 posted 08/24/16 1:06am

LBrent

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LBrent said:


1Sasha said:
Excellent message to Jill. Just perfect as it is. Thank you for writing it.

It was a nice gesture. I just wish that when she saw what made her uncomfortable she would have been more proactive in putting her feelings into action. I'm not placing any blame on her, but I think we all wish things could've ended differently. I wish her peace.



Please send the note to Jill!!! Always thought she was the coolest.




Yes, I liked Jill, too. She cracks me up in the beginning of Graffiti Bridge. I know it's just a movie, but I always thought her character got a raw deal in Purple Rain and it was nice to see her get him back a bit in Graffiti Bridge. Lol

As for MT, I was around for MG then busy with my own life right around the time she lost the baby, and when I looked up MG was gone and there was this MT chick lookin like Vanity and confusion the Heck out of me. I never saw much of her then she was gone so I don't know her. I've only heard rumors and the rumors weren't enough to keep my interest in MT. Frankly, her only relevance came from being with a celebrity so she's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

As far as P's choices of females, I think he always thought like a teenager in his choices cuz that's where he was stunted emotionally. He was a sexy, charming, kind, generous, 57 year old who was still emotionally 17-19 years old.

Women saw a sexy rich grown up and were infatuated. He saw females the age he felt inside and was infatuated. As the females matured, he didn't catch up with them emotionally. That's death to a relationship.

Nobody's fault.

And if a goldigger got hurt feelings dealing with P...so what?
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Reply #137 posted 08/24/16 1:32am

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GhostChick said:

This is how I look at Prince's marriages.



We don't know what happened and what broke them up. Yes, we "hear" and read stuff about what some of the reasoning might be BUT unless we personally knew the man and the couple, we don't know jack.



We can't believe everything read or hear from other insiders, including people from the Org.

I didn't know him. I can assume all I want and infer all I want but in reality, I didn't know what broke them up. And I kinda don't care anymore. I just miss Prince, seeing his presence and knowing that he won't be on any more award shows or make any grand entrances at awards shows like the NAACP Image Awards really hurts my heart cry



-- Funny how there is no interest when we find out MT ran around on his.
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Reply #138 posted 08/24/16 2:09am

jayseajay

Synergy said:

jayseajay said:

Just to clarify, we were talking about sending a message to Jill not MT, thread went a bit elsewhere...

The post began with MT FB post and maybe she should be written to for moral support was in the posts that precede mine and then the idea of writing Jill came up, because Jill is keeping it real and ppl are throwing shade instead of listening to her. So, my comment is within bounds, I've been an orger for nearly 11 years. I know the rules and how to follow the threads.

Hi, was just answering to the question of whether it was a new post from Mani. Didn't mean to suggest that there was anything out of bounds about your comment, just clarifying for ppl following the thread. Sorry if I offended you smile

Not like I love my guitar....
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Reply #139 posted 08/24/16 5:00am

wavesofbliss

laurarichardson said:

GhostChick said:

This is how I look at Prince's marriages.

We don't know what happened and what broke them up. Yes, we "hear" and read stuff about what some of the reasoning might be BUT unless we personally knew the man and the couple, we don't know jack.

We can't believe everything read or hear from other insiders, including people from the Org.

I didn't know him. I can assume all I want and infer all I want but in reality, I didn't know what broke them up. And I kinda don't care anymore. I just miss Prince, seeing his presence and knowing that he won't be on any more award shows or make any grand entrances at awards shows like the NAACP Image Awards really hurts my heart cry

-- Funny how there is no interest when we find out MT ran around on his.

i thought it was understood that MT cheated during the marriage just like it was understood that she was covering her own ass about wanting the divorce records to remain sealed. i can remember rumors of her cheating floating around several years ago. mostly i was confused about the drug comment. her and eric really are peas in a pod.

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Reply #140 posted 08/24/16 5:14am

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wavesofbliss said:

laurarichardson said:

GhostChick said: -- Funny how there is no interest when we find out MT ran around on his.

i thought it was understood that MT cheated during the marriage just like it was understood that she was covering her own ass about wanting the divorce records to remain sealed. i can remember rumors of her cheating floating around several years ago. mostly i was confused about the drug comment. her and eric really are peas in a pod.

No it was just a rumor that popped here and there. If you go back and look at old post about the divorce most people thought he cheated on her with Tamar.

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Reply #141 posted 08/24/16 6:17am

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1Sasha said:

Excellent message to Jill. Just perfect as it is. Thank you for writing it.

Agree completely. Perfectly written letter. Thank you from me, also, for writing it.

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Reply #142 posted 08/24/16 6:24am

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Krystalkisses said:

jayseajay said:

All of the above. It's one of the many ironies about P, the incredible romanticism is intoxicating, but that's not a great foundation for a marriage when the rubber hits the road. And he always seems to have decided to just move onto the next thing/romance rather than stick around and try and work anything out, b/c like you said, he didn't have the emotional skills...For someone so generally amazing in so many other ways, it really makes me sad...

I have a B.A. in Psychology so I have a bit of background in stuff like this and it is true our brains get flooded with feel good neroutransmitters and create a sense of euphoria with new romances and it can feel intoxicating and addicting...partially it's natures way to design us to procrate and stay together long enough to have children...but those feelings can dwindle as time goes on (usually at a two year mark ) and then people either advance into a more "mature" kind of love or breakup....however, research has shown couples can reawaken these feelings by engaging in new or novel experiences together to trigger some of those same neroutransmitters and make you feel "in love" again...

...as for Prince he was a true romantic, a poet, an artist...all these new girls in his life were like a spark of new inspiration that added to his creative output....but I'm not sure how he felt about that...I wonder if he felt ambivalent about his casannova ways or he really wanted a "deeper" love...perhaps at different stages in his life he wanted different things...

Just wanted to say I really enjoy your posts. They're very insightful and well stated. I remember you from way back when here on the Org and I'm glad you came back again (although I'm sorry it was under the circumstances that it was.) Anyway I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your input and thoughts.

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Reply #143 posted 08/24/16 7:46am

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I also feel the note was lovely. Pitch-perfect. Thank you for writing it.
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Reply #144 posted 08/24/16 9:14am

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slowlywiltingflower said:

Krystalkisses said:

I have a B.A. in Psychology so I have a bit of background in stuff like this and it is true our brains get flooded with feel good neroutransmitters and create a sense of euphoria with new romances and it can feel intoxicating and addicting...partially it's natures way to design us to procrate and stay together long enough to have children...but those feelings can dwindle as time goes on (usually at a two year mark ) and then people either advance into a more "mature" kind of love or breakup....however, research has shown couples can reawaken these feelings by engaging in new or novel experiences together to trigger some of those same neroutransmitters and make you feel "in love" again...

...as for Prince he was a true romantic, a poet, an artist...all these new girls in his life were like a spark of new inspiration that added to his creative output....but I'm not sure how he felt about that...I wonder if he felt ambivalent about his casannova ways or he really wanted a "deeper" love...perhaps at different stages in his life he wanted different things...

Just wanted to say I really enjoy your posts. They're very insightful and well stated. I remember you from way back when here on the Org and I'm glad you came back again (although I'm sorry it was under the circumstances that it was.) Anyway I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your input and thoughts.

Thank you for letting me know, that is a really nice thing to say. It is nice to have the org as a sounding board to work out your thoughts and feelings surrounding this. No one in my life is going to listen to me talk about Prince blahblah ....lol....so it has been a useful space for me to work out how this has affected me ...especially because he died in such a shocking and scary way. I always knew Prince would die someday but I was unprepared for my level of grief.....everything that is being revealed is so contradictory to what I remember of my childhood idol so I'm still processing all of it. I know there is a lesson somewhere in all of it and I have more compassion for him now than I ever did. heart

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Reply #145 posted 08/24/16 9:45am

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LBrent said
As far as P's choices of females, I think he always thought like a teenager in his choices cuz that's where he was stunted emotionally. He was a sexy, charming, kind, generous, 57 year old who was still emotionally 17-19 years old. Women saw a sexy rich grown up and were infatuated. He saw females the age he felt inside and was infatuated. As the females matured, he didn't catch up with them emotionally. That's death to a relationship.

Wow, that is so true! I think in some other thread on here, someone mentioned a theory that the age someone became famous is the mental age they are throughout their life. That would coencide with the age range you suggested. And I do thing your right, he acted like a teenager throughout much of his life, especially with women. However, I am not down on him really for that, he had a unique life which was unconventional and men are kind of primed to find women most attractive in their most fertile years so that would be young women of that age range (althought the Anna Garcias and Maytes, were kinda pushing it I admit) so him having young girlfriends never really was that big of an issue for me as a fan. Besides think back to when you were those women's ages? Do you remember what you were like? What you valued? How you thought? If one of the richest, most famous, sexiest superstars turned their attentions on you how would you feel? It would be so easy to get swept up in it.

I always wondered though if the women who were his friends got the better side of Prince though. Like Ingrid Chavez (although I don't know if what they had was completley platonic) or Apollonia or Wendy Melvoin...as opposed to the wives/girlfriends....sure you would miss out on the romance and the sex with a dreamboat (love who could pass that up????) but there would also be alot you could have avoided with him (like the mind games)....and maybe see the real guy, and he was pretty cool. It struck me as interesting that Kandance girl's interview when she said he came on to her and she was like "No" but he seemed to respect her for that and they were able to sustain a cool friendship...she proably by passed a lot of heartache that way and I'm sure he could be a cool dude who was fun to hang out with so I guess she made a smart choice. razz

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Reply #146 posted 08/24/16 10:09am

Vannormal

:'(((((

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One can read loads of crap here on the ORG.

This site is way too democratic imho.

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Sure y'all are fans ?

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Are you really sure you like Prince for his music ?

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #147 posted 08/24/16 10:12am

terrig

LBrent said
As far as P's choices of females, I think he always thought like a teenager in his choices cuz that's where he was stunted emotionally. He was a sexy, charming, kind, generous, 57 year old who was still emotionally 17-19 years old. Women saw a sexy rich grown up and were infatuated. He saw females the age he felt inside and was infatuated. As the females matured, he didn't catch up with them emotionally. That's death to a relationship.


This. You can see this in Madonna as well.

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Reply #148 posted 08/24/16 12:03pm

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nursev said:

[img:$uid]http://i497.pho.../img:$uid] lol

I Love Dave Chapelle! lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #149 posted 08/24/16 12:08pm

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terrig said:


This. You can see this in Madonna as well.

nod And MJ.

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