NinaB said:

wavesofbliss said:

that they overlapped in their time working @ PP. they both look self-interested.

I didn't get a good vibe frm Meron either. And what was that u said about some fuss on twitter with Maya Brown? (I've not heard of her b4) was she an assistant too?

oh sorry. ther name is mariah brown,not maya. she got very salty after she stopped working for prince. sh was on twitter being bitchy. people suspected her of being theFB hacker. i don't no what she's up to now. she was asked after his death and commented that he was healthy when she was there. she left in early 2015, i think.

LBrent said:

Um. If we read MT's post, isn't that invading her privacy? Cuz, ya know, they're not married and she made a point to the judge about wanting to be the private Mrs Benet for her kid's sake and all... Or has she given up on that pretense? Just sayin

Two options: She could either reconsider who is in her friends list or change her privacy setting so as to keep her posts private from unwanted audience.

Bria is the only person who has been completely silent.I've been very impressed with her around this. She's a married woman and was with Prince (I think seriously) for quite some time - and recently. She must be very sad. Yet she has remained totally silent - and I imagine grieving in her own quiet way.

I believe Mayte was his true partner. Even she isn't going on and on about Prince with long, extremely emotional posts and extreme words.

However I have come to like Mani a little bit and can see why Prince loved her too, even though she does this. I think I understand her a little better now.

However, I do not think she's helping herself by making these posts. It seems opposite what she said she wanted to achieve at the court hearing.

It's hard, but sometimes the best thing to do is just stay quiet.

Krystalkisses said:

NinaB said:

Krystalkisses said: Parasites. Least Jill & Susan etc were making plans 2 go out 2 PP & fatten him up.

Yeah after reading JJ post about her gut feelings surrounding seeing Prince at Denise's memorial I have a lot of respect for her. She geninuley seemed to care about him...even if over the years he had not always treated her so nicely.

I can't figure out why Prince would want to hang around kids so young (ok maybe I can understand a man wanting to be with women in their early 20s) but friends? I can't really stomach the immaturity of people much younger than myself for too long ..was Prince honestly lonely? or just emotionally immature? I am really sad this is how his life ended....I really hoped that he was going to live a long life still preforming into his old age like James Brown....

I am very grateful for JJ's post because it shed some real light on what was going on earlier this year.

I simply believe that Prince was on pain medication which could have slightly clouded things for him - but most of all, he was not finding a spiritual partner who could love him and whom he could love ...someone mature, trustworthy, and attractive on the INSIDE.

I feel for him and am so sad about this,

But he knows nowhow much we all love him.

Hindsight is a terrible thing. I could cry right now.

anangellooksdown said:

Krystalkisses said:

Yeah after reading JJ post about her gut feelings surrounding seeing Prince at Denise's memorial I have a lot of respect for her. She geninuley seemed to care about him...even if over the years he had not always treated her so nicely.

I can't figure out why Prince would want to hang around kids so young (ok maybe I can understand a man wanting to be with women in their early 20s) but friends? I can't really stomach the immaturity of people much younger than myself for too long ..was Prince honestly lonely? or just emotionally immature? I am really sad this is how his life ended....I really hoped that he was going to live a long life still preforming into his old age like James Brown....

I am very grateful for JJ's post because it shed some real light on what was going on earlier this year.

I simply believe that Prince was on pain medication which could have slightly clouded things for him - but most of all, he was not finding a spiritual partner who could love him and whom he could love ...someone mature, trustworthy, and attractive on the INSIDE.

I feel for him and am so sad about this,

But he knows nowhow much we all love him.

Hindsight is a terrible thing. I could cry right now.

What did JJ say? If I may ask...

Krystalkisses said:

wavesofbliss said:

LBrent said:

Um. If we read MT's post, isn't that invading her privacy? Cuz, ya know, they're not married and she made a point to the judge about wanting to be the private Mrs Benet for her kid's sake and all... Or has she given up on that pretense? Just sayin

LBrent said:

Um. If we read MT's post, isn't that invading her privacy? Cuz, ya know, they're not married and she made a point to the judge about wanting to be the private Mrs Benet for her kid's sake and all... Or has she given up on that pretense? Just sayin

Vague-booking on a public post isn't the same as the ST asking to unseal their divorce records from 10 years ago. Knowing that mommy was married before isn't the same as knowing the dirt on how mommy split from her first husband years ago and why.

:rolleyes:

anangellooksdown said:

Bria is the only person who has been completely silent.I've been very impressed with her around this. She's a married woman and was with Prince (I think seriously) for quite some time - and recently. She must be very sad. Yet she has remained totally silent - and I imagine grieving in her own quiet way.

I believe Mayte was his true partner. Even she isn't going on and on about Prince with long, extremely emotional posts and extreme words.

However I have come to like Mani a little bit and can see why Prince loved her too, even though she does this. I think I understand her a little better now.

However, I do not think she's helping herself by making these posts. It seems opposite what she said she wanted to achieve at the court hearing.

It's hard, but sometimes the best thing to do is just stay quiet.

Bria seemed like the kind of woman he was sorta looking for, a beautiful woman who adored him, was religious and let him run the show. I think it was important to him that a woman in his life share his faith and life philosophies. I can't speak to their soul connection though, I have no idea about that.

Yeah I like Mani, he seemed really happy and down to earth when he was with her. I don't understand what happened between them. I'm happy for her now though...she has a beautiful family and doing work she loves.

I don't know what to make of all the young girlfriends reading about in the last few years. Hopefully, they kept him company and he had some fun times with them. He could be such a Shallow Hal and the girls were probably there for their looks, so if that was important to him then so be it...some guys are just like that.

As much as I fantasized about meeting Prince, falling in love with him and getting married () I know I would not have been a good match for him -I'm way too fiesty, outspoken (in a tactful way) and I don't like controlling people in general, I'm very headstrong and independent-not saying Prince would ever give me the time of day ...but what I'm saying is perhaps fantasy is better. He seemed to need a specific type of woman/soulmate....to keep him happy, so many women have came and went over the years, and I'm sure quite a few of them were really deep and special.

malbena said:

anangellooksdown said:

I am very grateful for JJ's post because it shed some real light on what was going on earlier this year.

I simply believe that Prince was on pain medication which could have slightly clouded things for him - but most of all, he was not finding a spiritual partner who could love him and whom he could love ...someone mature, trustworthy, and attractive on the INSIDE.

I feel for him and am so sad about this,

But he knows nowhow much we all love him.

Hindsight is a terrible thing. I could cry right now.

What did JJ say? If I may ask...

This was on her Facebook I guess...and orger copied it and posted it in another thread:

Jill jones posted this earlier, not sue if it's been deleted now? (FROM THE MIND & HEART OF Jill Jones-Mühlum)
MAD <3 JJ
This has been heavy on my heart for months now since his passing. Only a few close friends know this story. I don't know if what I am about to say will help the situation any or perhaps it may raise more questions. But I will say that when I saw Prince in February in the early part of this year at the show he had in Oakland, right after the death of Denise.I told the girls, Apples, my friend Seth,Susan and Susan's sister, "He's on something". I was even speaking on it when he just popped up out of no where. And said, "hey what are you guys talking about?"...I was mortified, I was certain first that he heard me, and second he knew I knew something and that he might have been thinking,"oh here comes Jill after all these years and immediately she is in the corner starting shit".(FYI, he was a bit telepathic, no joke and psychically tuned, so i knew) I looked at him. Susan responded to his question with, "you". I immediately said, in order not to embarrass him at that moment, I said, "You know what guys, we are not spring chickens anymore, maybe we should all make a pact to get together once a year and take a vacation just to catch up and touch base on each others lives" (something like that) Then I made a joke about us all doing something together of things we had never done but wanted to and my first suggestion was, "Let's all go skydiving?" They all looked at me like I was crazy and Prince stated firmly, "I'm not gonna go skydiving thats for sure. I said, "yes, lets all go to Dubai and skydive over the islands!" laughingly I knew they thought I was mad. But they all said they would go to Dubai, but maybe shop while I went skydiving. This is bittersweet for me to speak on. I had not seen or spoken with him in years. Others kept giving me the old, reason that he might have been sedated was because he had hip pain. So I accepted that.reluctantly and begrudgingly. But I could see that he thoroughly enjoyed seeing us and we all joked like time had never passed. But I knew him. The real him. The goofy him, the generous him. This was a man that I loved dearly and he meant so much to me in my life. My first love. And I am still utterly destroyed that he is gone. He said he would be in touch with me in about two months as he wanted to talk about some things.
I will say that the people serving around him at this time, I would have been hard pressed to find anyone over the age of 25 years old, aside from Kirk...lol. And even when I went to the bathroom, I could see two young Afro-centric hipster cool jazzy young women hanging together in a bathroom stall fidgeting with their make up and lighting up and smoking some weed. I had never known this to be the "norm" around anything in Prince's environment.
I grew up in a musical entertainment family. My step father was part of the Gordy dynasty. So from a very young age, I understood the importance and value of maintaining close relationships.And family. All too often I had witnessed the trappings of fame and the hangers on that always, (it doesn't matter what generation) always show up. I saw this with Rick James, Teena Marie, Marvin Gaye and others who reach a level of status. To be honest, I never really liked it. I love performing, but I never cared for the adulation on my "famous" friends or for myself. It makes me uncomfortable.
It also made a battle difficult to win with a friend , when a loved ones , has someone blowing smoke up their ass at all times. When you watch people prey on your friends weaknesses and insecurity. And you have to slay the dragons...Sometimes you find yourself getting kicked out of the kingdom....but i digress eventually people come back to what is true, in fact they long for it...once again..
I still find it tremendously difficult to understand how I , having not seen him in years could detect an immediate problem? Was it because I had a comparison of Prince in the early days to reference? Were these new people around him unaware because they did not know him before? Did I pick up on it because I had grown up with alcoholics and medication/prescription abusers? (I am very sensitive to this, as it creates a lot of anxiety in me).
I do not mean to offend anyone by sharing this, but it is a burden that I don't want to carry alone. I feel pretty guilty. Like I should have kidnapped him. I am NOT saying he was falling down, slurring, drugged up, not at all, but I felt it. I felt it strongly. He was functioning and to the naked eye, perhaps no one noticed. But i find it hard to believe.
From my observation, His chi was off. i thought it was wild that he was using fractal mandalas as the backdrop for his show. We talked and Yes, we got some closure. I won't share those details. But I am grateful for that. All I will say is that I fulfilled and played out the role he had created in the song She's always in my Hair....
The girls had started to plan initiatives to alternate time to go to Paisley and take care of him, feed him, get his weight back. He was a bit gaunt. That was our solution when we left Oakland. As he seemed ok with everyone going there. But this organizing perhaps made him feel a bit smothered and soon he dashed saying he had to eat something. Before going he looked at me and said, "if you ever need me or anything, please call Kirk and he will get me."
I guess my main question has been this, did i let him down? For a selfish bit of closure? Did i miss that opportunity to save him? Because in my narcissistic brain, i really believe that i could have. Or is it all just fantasy. How i would liked the ending to have been? I feel we all feel this.
For truly it is you, his fans who carried him when many of us ( old timers) were not there physically. I am grateful he had that. And i just want to say, i am sorry for dropping the ball. That moment in February was bigger than my closure. I had no idea that it was goodbye.

Krystalkisses said:

malbena said:

What did JJ say? If I may ask...

This was on her Facebook I guess...and orger copied it and posted it in another thread:

Jill jones posted this earlier, not sue if it's been deleted now? (FROM THE MIND & HEART OF Jill Jones-Mühlum)
MAD <3 JJ
This has been heavy on my heart for months now since his passing. Only a few close friends know this story. I don't know if what I am about to say will help the situation any or perhaps it may raise more questions. But I will say that when I saw Prince in February in the early part of this year at the show he had in Oakland, right after the death of Denise.I told the girls, Apples, my friend Seth,Susan and Susan's sister, "He's on something". I was even speaking on it when he just popped up out of no where. And said, "hey what are you guys talking about?"...I was mortified, I was certain first that he heard me, and second he knew I knew something and that he might have been thinking,"oh here comes Jill after all these years and immediately she is in the corner starting shit".(FYI, he was a bit telepathic, no joke and psychically tuned, so i knew) I looked at him. Susan responded to his question with, "you". I immediately said, in order not to embarrass him at that moment, I said, "You know what guys, we are not spring chickens anymore, maybe we should all make a pact to get together once a year and take a vacation just to catch up and touch base on each others lives" (something like that) Then I made a joke about us all doing something together of things we had never done but wanted to and my first suggestion was, "Let's all go skydiving?" They all looked at me like I was crazy and Prince stated firmly, "I'm not gonna go skydiving thats for sure. I said, "yes, lets all go to Dubai and skydive over the islands!" laughingly I knew they thought I was mad. But they all said they would go to Dubai, but maybe shop while I went skydiving. This is bittersweet for me to speak on. I had not seen or spoken with him in years. Others kept giving me the old, reason that he might have been sedated was because he had hip pain. So I accepted that.reluctantly and begrudgingly. But I could see that he thoroughly enjoyed seeing us and we all joked like time had never passed. But I knew him. The real him. The goofy him, the generous him. This was a man that I loved dearly and he meant so much to me in my life. My first love. And I am still utterly destroyed that he is gone. He said he would be in touch with me in about two months as he wanted to talk about some things.
I will say that the people serving around him at this time, I would have been hard pressed to find anyone over the age of 25 years old, aside from Kirk...lol. And even when I went to the bathroom, I could see two young Afro-centric hipster cool jazzy young women hanging together in a bathroom stall fidgeting with their make up and lighting up and smoking some weed. I had never known this to be the "norm" around anything in Prince's environment.
I grew up in a musical entertainment family. My step father was part of the Gordy dynasty. So from a very young age, I understood the importance and value of maintaining close relationships.And family. All too often I had witnessed the trappings of fame and the hangers on that always, (it doesn't matter what generation) always show up. I saw this with Rick James, Teena Marie, Marvin Gaye and others who reach a level of status. To be honest, I never really liked it. I love performing, but I never cared for the adulation on my "famous" friends or for myself. It makes me uncomfortable.
It also made a battle difficult to win with a friend , when a loved ones , has someone blowing smoke up their ass at all times. When you watch people prey on your friends weaknesses and insecurity. And you have to slay the dragons...Sometimes you find yourself getting kicked out of the kingdom....but i digress eventually people come back to what is true, in fact they long for it...once again..
I still find it tremendously difficult to understand how I , having not seen him in years could detect an immediate problem? Was it because I had a comparison of Prince in the early days to reference? Were these new people around him unaware because they did not know him before? Did I pick up on it because I had grown up with alcoholics and medication/prescription abusers? (I am very sensitive to this, as it creates a lot of anxiety in me).
I do not mean to offend anyone by sharing this, but it is a burden that I don't want to carry alone. I feel pretty guilty. Like I should have kidnapped him. I am NOT saying he was falling down, slurring, drugged up, not at all, but I felt it. I felt it strongly. He was functioning and to the naked eye, perhaps no one noticed. But i find it hard to believe.
From my observation, His chi was off. i thought it was wild that he was using fractal mandalas as the backdrop for his show. We talked and Yes, we got some closure. I won't share those details. But I am grateful for that. All I will say is that I fulfilled and played out the role he had created in the song She's always in my Hair....
The girls had started to plan initiatives to alternate time to go to Paisley and take care of him, feed him, get his weight back. He was a bit gaunt. That was our solution when we left Oakland. As he seemed ok with everyone going there. But this organizing perhaps made him feel a bit smothered and soon he dashed saying he had to eat something. Before going he looked at me and said, "if you ever need me or anything, please call Kirk and he will get me."
I guess my main question has been this, did i let him down? For a selfish bit of closure? Did i miss that opportunity to save him? Because in my narcissistic brain, i really believe that i could have. Or is it all just fantasy. How i would liked the ending to have been? I feel we all feel this.
For truly it is you, his fans who carried him when many of us ( old timers) were not there physically. I am grateful he had that. And i just want to say, i am sorry for dropping the ball. That moment in February was bigger than my closure. I had no idea that it was goodbye.

be kind, be a friend, not a bully.

Thank you for sharing that Krystalkisses. My, this is a powerful statement.

Morningstarlet said:

fanoftheman said:

Yeah I saw that.. I wondered what he thought about that... maybe he didnt care..

I don't know. I have no doubt he could probably be difficult to live with, but still it would have to hurt somewhat that she was selling her engagement ring. And now she claims he was "everything" to her? Some of this seems so phony, but who am I to say.

I don't think it's complicated, they'd been divorced for 15 years, she still had a load of his stuff, she was trying to move on at last, and then this happened, and now she isn't. I feel for the girl, she got hooked up with a rockstar when she was basically a child, married him, had his child, lost the child and then got dumped. She evidently never really got over it, and now maybe she never well. Really. Give her a break.

Krystalkisses said:

malbena said:

What did JJ say? If I may ask...

This was on her Facebook I guess...and orger copied it and posted it in another thread:

Jill jones posted this earlier, not sue if it's been deleted now? (FROM THE MIND & HEART OF Jill Jones-Mühlum)
MAD <3 JJ
This has been heavy on my heart for months now since his passing. Only a few close friends know this story. I don't know if what I am about to say will help the situation any or perhaps it may raise more questions. But I will say that when I saw Prince in February in the early part of this year at the show he had in Oakland, right after the death of Denise.I told the girls, Apples, my friend Seth,Susan and Susan's sister, "He's on something". I was even speaking on it when he just popped up out of no where. And said, "hey what are you guys talking about?"...I was mortified, I was certain first that he heard me, and second he knew I knew something and that he might have been thinking,"oh here comes Jill after all these years and immediately she is in the corner starting shit".(FYI, he was a bit telepathic, no joke and psychically tuned, so i knew) I looked at him. Susan responded to his question with, "you". I immediately said, in order not to embarrass him at that moment, I said, "You know what guys, we are not spring chickens anymore, maybe we should all make a pact to get together once a year and take a vacation just to catch up and touch base on each others lives" (something like that) Then I made a joke about us all doing something together of things we had never done but wanted to and my first suggestion was, "Let's all go skydiving?" They all looked at me like I was crazy and Prince stated firmly, "I'm not gonna go skydiving thats for sure. I said, "yes, lets all go to Dubai and skydive over the islands!" laughingly I knew they thought I was mad. But they all said they would go to Dubai, but maybe shop while I went skydiving. This is bittersweet for me to speak on. I had not seen or spoken with him in years. Others kept giving me the old, reason that he might have been sedated was because he had hip pain. So I accepted that.reluctantly and begrudgingly. But I could see that he thoroughly enjoyed seeing us and we all joked like time had never passed. But I knew him. The real him. The goofy him, the generous him. This was a man that I loved dearly and he meant so much to me in my life. My first love. And I am still utterly destroyed that he is gone. He said he would be in touch with me in about two months as he wanted to talk about some things.
I will say that the people serving around him at this time, I would have been hard pressed to find anyone over the age of 25 years old, aside from Kirk...lol. And even when I went to the bathroom, I could see two young Afro-centric hipster cool jazzy young women hanging together in a bathroom stall fidgeting with their make up and lighting up and smoking some weed. I had never known this to be the "norm" around anything in Prince's environment.
I grew up in a musical entertainment family. My step father was part of the Gordy dynasty. So from a very young age, I understood the importance and value of maintaining close relationships.And family. All too often I had witnessed the trappings of fame and the hangers on that always, (it doesn't matter what generation) always show up. I saw this with Rick James, Teena Marie, Marvin Gaye and others who reach a level of status. To be honest, I never really liked it. I love performing, but I never cared for the adulation on my "famous" friends or for myself. It makes me uncomfortable.
It also made a battle difficult to win with a friend , when a loved ones , has someone blowing smoke up their ass at all times. When you watch people prey on your friends weaknesses and insecurity. And you have to slay the dragons...Sometimes you find yourself getting kicked out of the kingdom....but i digress eventually people come back to what is true, in fact they long for it...once again..
I still find it tremendously difficult to understand how I , having not seen him in years could detect an immediate problem? Was it because I had a comparison of Prince in the early days to reference? Were these new people around him unaware because they did not know him before? Did I pick up on it because I had grown up with alcoholics and medication/prescription abusers? (I am very sensitive to this, as it creates a lot of anxiety in me).
I do not mean to offend anyone by sharing this, but it is a burden that I don't want to carry alone. I feel pretty guilty. Like I should have kidnapped him. I am NOT saying he was falling down, slurring, drugged up, not at all, but I felt it. I felt it strongly. He was functioning and to the naked eye, perhaps no one noticed. But i find it hard to believe.
From my observation, His chi was off. i thought it was wild that he was using fractal mandalas as the backdrop for his show. We talked and Yes, we got some closure. I won't share those details. But I am grateful for that. All I will say is that I fulfilled and played out the role he had created in the song She's always in my Hair....
The girls had started to plan initiatives to alternate time to go to Paisley and take care of him, feed him, get his weight back. He was a bit gaunt. That was our solution when we left Oakland. As he seemed ok with everyone going there. But this organizing perhaps made him feel a bit smothered and soon he dashed saying he had to eat something. Before going he looked at me and said, "if you ever need me or anything, please call Kirk and he will get me."
I guess my main question has been this, did i let him down? For a selfish bit of closure? Did i miss that opportunity to save him? Because in my narcissistic brain, i really believe that i could have. Or is it all just fantasy. How i would liked the ending to have been? I feel we all feel this.
For truly it is you, his fans who carried him when many of us ( old timers) were not there physically. I am grateful he had that. And i just want to say, i am sorry for dropping the ball. That moment in February was bigger than my closure. I had no idea that it was goodbye.

be kind, be a friend, not a bully.

I know this is kind of crazy but all afternoon I've been thinking about how much I'd like us - the fam - to write to her telling her how moved we are and thanks for telling the truth, and to be kind to herself.

jayseajay said:

Morningstarlet said:

fanoftheman said: I don't know. I have no doubt he could probably be difficult to live with, but still it would have to hurt somewhat that she was selling her engagement ring. And now she claims he was "everything" to her? Some of this seems so phony, but who am I to say.

I don't think it's complicated, they'd been divorced for 15 years, she still had a load of his stuff, she was trying to move on at last, and then this happened, and now she isn't. I feel for the girl, she got hooked up with a rockstar when she was basically a child, married him, had his child, lost the child and then got dumped. She evidently never really got over it, and now maybe she never well. Really. Give her a break.

Sorry if that came out abrupt. We're all a bit on edge. I just really feel for Mayte, the way P treated her was not his finest hour...

I guess the memorial didn't give any answers to burning questions so now people are going to say what they've been wanting to say.

jayseajay said:

Krystalkisses said:

This was on her Facebook I guess...and orger copied it and posted it in another thread:

Jill jones posted this earlier, not sue if it's been deleted now? (FROM THE MIND & HEART OF Jill Jones-Mühlum)
MAD <3 JJ
This has been heavy on my heart for months now since his passing. Only a few close friends know this story. I don't know if what I am about to say will help the situation any or perhaps it may raise more questions. But I will say that when I saw Prince in February in the early part of this year at the show he had in Oakland, right after the death of Denise.I told the girls, Apples, my friend Seth,Susan and Susan's sister, "He's on something". I was even speaking on it when he just popped up out of no where. And said, "hey what are you guys talking about?"...I was mortified, I was certain first that he heard me, and second he knew I knew something and that he might have been thinking,"oh here comes Jill after all these years and immediately she is in the corner starting shit".(FYI, he was a bit telepathic, no joke and psychically tuned, so i knew) I looked at him. Susan responded to his question with, "you". I immediately said, in order not to embarrass him at that moment, I said, "You know what guys, we are not spring chickens anymore, maybe we should all make a pact to get together once a year and take a vacation just to catch up and touch base on each others lives" (something like that) Then I made a joke about us all doing something together of things we had never done but wanted to and my first suggestion was, "Let's all go skydiving?" They all looked at me like I was crazy and Prince stated firmly, "I'm not gonna go skydiving thats for sure. I said, "yes, lets all go to Dubai and skydive over the islands!" laughingly I knew they thought I was mad. But they all said they would go to Dubai, but maybe shop while I went skydiving. This is bittersweet for me to speak on. I had not seen or spoken with him in years. Others kept giving me the old, reason that he might have been sedated was because he had hip pain. So I accepted that.reluctantly and begrudgingly. But I could see that he thoroughly enjoyed seeing us and we all joked like time had never passed. But I knew him. The real him. The goofy him, the generous him. This was a man that I loved dearly and he meant so much to me in my life. My first love. And I am still utterly destroyed that he is gone. He said he would be in touch with me in about two months as he wanted to talk about some things.
I will say that the people serving around him at this time, I would have been hard pressed to find anyone over the age of 25 years old, aside from Kirk...lol. And even when I went to the bathroom, I could see two young Afro-centric hipster cool jazzy young women hanging together in a bathroom stall fidgeting with their make up and lighting up and smoking some weed. I had never known this to be the "norm" around anything in Prince's environment.
I grew up in a musical entertainment family. My step father was part of the Gordy dynasty. So from a very young age, I understood the importance and value of maintaining close relationships.And family. All too often I had witnessed the trappings of fame and the hangers on that always, (it doesn't matter what generation) always show up. I saw this with Rick James, Teena Marie, Marvin Gaye and others who reach a level of status. To be honest, I never really liked it. I love performing, but I never cared for the adulation on my "famous" friends or for myself. It makes me uncomfortable.
It also made a battle difficult to win with a friend , when a loved ones , has someone blowing smoke up their ass at all times. When you watch people prey on your friends weaknesses and insecurity. And you have to slay the dragons...Sometimes you find yourself getting kicked out of the kingdom....but i digress eventually people come back to what is true, in fact they long for it...once again..
I still find it tremendously difficult to understand how I , having not seen him in years could detect an immediate problem? Was it because I had a comparison of Prince in the early days to reference? Were these new people around him unaware because they did not know him before? Did I pick up on it because I had grown up with alcoholics and medication/prescription abusers? (I am very sensitive to this, as it creates a lot of anxiety in me).
I do not mean to offend anyone by sharing this, but it is a burden that I don't want to carry alone. I feel pretty guilty. Like I should have kidnapped him. I am NOT saying he was falling down, slurring, drugged up, not at all, but I felt it. I felt it strongly. He was functioning and to the naked eye, perhaps no one noticed. But i find it hard to believe.
From my observation, His chi was off. i thought it was wild that he was using fractal mandalas as the backdrop for his show. We talked and Yes, we got some closure. I won't share those details. But I am grateful for that. All I will say is that I fulfilled and played out the role he had created in the song She's always in my Hair....
The girls had started to plan initiatives to alternate time to go to Paisley and take care of him, feed him, get his weight back. He was a bit gaunt. That was our solution when we left Oakland. As he seemed ok with everyone going there. But this organizing perhaps made him feel a bit smothered and soon he dashed saying he had to eat something. Before going he looked at me and said, "if you ever need me or anything, please call Kirk and he will get me."
I guess my main question has been this, did i let him down? For a selfish bit of closure? Did i miss that opportunity to save him? Because in my narcissistic brain, i really believe that i could have. Or is it all just fantasy. How i would liked the ending to have been? I feel we all feel this.
For truly it is you, his fans who carried him when many of us ( old timers) were not there physically. I am grateful he had that. And i just want to say, i am sorry for dropping the ball. That moment in February was bigger than my closure. I had no idea that it was goodbye.

be kind, be a friend, not a bully.

I know this is kind of crazy but all afternoon I've been thinking about how much I'd like us - the fam - to write to her telling her how moved we are and thanks for telling the truth, and to be kind to herself.

Oh I know...I feel bad because she sounds like she feels so guilty...but really I don't know if there was much she could do...who knew that it would end up this way....this isn't her fault...

jayseajay said:

jayseajay said:

I don't think it's complicated, they'd been divorced for 15 years, she still had a load of his stuff, she was trying to move on at last, and then this happened, and now she isn't. I feel for the girl, she got hooked up with a rockstar when she was basically a child, married him, had his child, lost the child and then got dumped. She evidently never really got over it, and now maybe she never well. Really. Give her a break.

Sorry if that came out abrupt. We're all a bit on edge. I just really feel for Mayte, the way P treated her was not his finest hour...

boy, you can say that again.

Krystalkisses said:

jayseajay said:

I know this is kind of crazy but all afternoon I've been thinking about how much I'd like us - the fam - to write to her telling her how moved we are and thanks for telling the truth, and to be kind to herself.

Oh I know...I feel bad because she sounds like she feels so guilty...but really I don't know if there was much she could do...who knew that it would end up this way....this isn't her fault...

No, I don't think there was...we all wish now that someone could go back and kidnap him and lock him up and watch over him til he was safe...but it had to come from him, and it seems he had chosen to surround himself with ppl who weren't wise or strong enough to even challenge him on it. I'm so sad all over again. It's like watching a train wreck over and over again in slow motion and there being nothing anyone can do. Poor poor poor P, I just wish he'd leaned he didn't have to be a superhero all the damn time

jayseajay said:

Krystalkisses said:

Oh I know...I feel bad because she sounds like she feels so guilty...but really I don't know if there was much she could do...who knew that it would end up this way....this isn't her fault...

No, I don't think there was...we all wish now that someone could go back and kidnap him and lock him up and watch over him til he was safe...but it had to come from him, and it seems he had chosen to surround himself with ppl who weren't wise or strong enough to even challenge him on it. I'm so sad all over again. It's like watching a train wreck over and over again in slow motion and there being nothing anyone can do. Poor poor poor P, I just wish he'd leaned he didn't have to be a superhero all the damn time

Yep.

jayseajay said:

Krystalkisses said:

This was on her Facebook I guess...and orger copied it and posted it in another thread:

Jill jones posted this earlier, not sue if it's been deleted now? (FROM THE MIND & HEART OF Jill Jones-Mühlum)
MAD <3 JJ [...]

I know this is kind of crazy but all afternoon I've been thinking about how much I'd like us - the fam - to write to her telling her how moved we are and thanks for telling the truth, and to be kind to herself.

I felt that way after reading this too

Krystalkisses said:

jayseajay said:

Sorry if that came out abrupt. We're all a bit on edge. I just really feel for Mayte, the way P treated her was not his finest hour...

boy, you can say that again.

Really. The denial was strong with that one

schnupp said:

jayseajay said:

I know this is kind of crazy but all afternoon I've been thinking about how much I'd like us - the fam - to write to her telling her how moved we are and thanks for telling the truth, and to be kind to herself.

I felt that way after reading this too

Maybe we should think about it. It seems like she was reaching out. Does anyone know what kind of response she got on her fb? Maybe a fam hug would help...

anangellooksdown said:

I simply believe that Prince was on pain medication which could have slightly clouded things for him - but most of all, he was not finding a spiritual partner who could love him and whom he could love ...someone mature, trustworthy, and attractive on the INSIDE.

I feel for him and am so sad about this,

I'm just curious angel, why do you feel this way? Is it just a bad feeling or what you've read. Please don't take my question the wrong way. I am just curious how you came to this conclusion that is all.

jayseajay said:

schnupp said:

I felt that way after reading this too

Maybe we should think about it. It seems like she was reaching out. Does anyone know what kind of response she got on her fb? Maybe a fam hug would help...

Sending loving thoughts towards Jill Jones' way....

Krystalkisses said:

jayseajay said:

Maybe we should think about it. It seems like she was reaching out. Does anyone know what kind of response she got on her fb? Maybe a fam hug would help...

Sending loving thoughts towards Jill Jones' way....

Co-sign

jayseajay said:

schnupp said:

I felt that way after reading this too

Maybe we should think about it. It seems like she was reaching out. Does anyone know what kind of response she got on her fb? Maybe a fam hug would help...

Jill received a lot of hateful responses so she posted something else again today. I will go find it for you if you want me to.

jayseajay said:

Krystalkisses said:

boy, you can say that again.

Really. The denial was strong with that one

I feel bad for Mayte. She seemed like she was finally at a good place and ready to really let go of him and her past, enjoying being a mom to her daughter and this all happens and she gets sucked right back in...Prince could be pretty toxic in his relationsips let's just keep it real....and I'm not criticising him either alot of his behavior was unconcious due to a painful childhood....I don't know if he ever really delt with that but it seems like there were many causalties in his love life...Mayte being one..

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

jayseajay said:

Maybe we should think about it. It seems like she was reaching out. Does anyone know what kind of response she got on her fb? Maybe a fam hug would help...

Jill received a lot of hateful responses so she posted something else again today. I will go find it for you if you want me to.

Please do! How can people hate on what she said? She was speaking her truth and her feelings... Some people are just jerks.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: