she seemed to get a couple big breaks, the last dragon and action jackson, after that she fell of the map.

And don't forget Jackie Collins Lady Boss (1992) its a trashy classic.

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Goddess4Real said:

she seemed to get a couple big breaks, the last dragon and action jackson, after that she fell of the map.

And don't forget Jackie Collins Lady Boss (1992) its a trashy classic.

Does anyone remember a 1991 cable-TV movie called 'Memories Of Murder'? Vanity appears in this trashy,murder-drama...she plays a bad girl

LBrent said:

I've always liked V within the context of P's world. She was pretty and I liked the way they looked together, but I never found her to be particularly talented although I tried. I wanted to like her. I wanted to miss her when she left P's world. I just couldn't find enough to make me care much about her journey.

me either but like all the ladies of that era, people are just stuck on them. You never hear people reminiscing over andre, dez,fink or z like that.

^^I've always like Memories of Murder. Next to The Last Dragon I think it was her best role, and something different for her.

I don't think the remark about her dad ended her career. I think it was drugs, and not being particularly talented that ended it for her. I always felt that she would have been a good host for an MTV/BET type show.

She stands out among the other ladies and associated artists because of her charisma. She made you want to watch her, listen to her and look at her. Unfortunately there was nothing to really keep you there, she was definitely a novelty act. She would have done better with better songwriters and stylists. The diy approach did her no favors.

Jill is is my fave protege next to Vanity, but she didn't really have the charisma to go far. Neither did Apollonia (boring as all get out), or the rest of the bunch. For most of these women it stopped at their looks.

I kind of got a kick out of this movie.

SoulAlive said:

Goddess4Real said:

And don't forget Jackie Collins Lady Boss (1992) its a trashy classic.

Does anyone remember a 1991 cable-TV movie called 'Memories Of Murder'? Vanity appears in this trashy,murder-drama...she plays a bad girl

Yuuuuuup it was melodramatic, but Vanity was great, she could have been a bond girl or a great villain......would have been perfect in something like American Horror Story: Hotel, had she continued acting.

Here are some from Action Jackson (1988) some I have never seen before

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Goddess4Real said:

SoulAlive said:

Does anyone remember a 1991 cable-TV movie called 'Memories Of Murder'? Vanity appears in this trashy,murder-drama...she plays a bad girl

Yuuuuuup it was melodramatic, but Vanity was great, she could have been a bond girl or a great villain......would have been perfect in something like American Horror Story: Hotel, had she continued acting.

I agree! She plays a great villian.I would have loved to have seen her in a movie like "Basic Instinct" could you imagine Vanity being the star of that film?!

LBrent said:

The one thing I always appreciated about V was that she never seemed deluded. What I mean is, she showed up and seemed to be trying to do her best at singing, the dance steps, acting...but she even said in her interview with Donny Simpson that she knew she was no singer or actress but that she was trying. Also, she never said anything mean about her experience in P's world. She said she was friends with Appolonia (all those gals came to her funeral all these years later too which says alot). She seemed to know that she was pretty and not much more in terms of talent. She knew people were expecting her just to be pretty, but she wanted to be more than that. But she also knew that she wasn't good at being more than pretty. She seemed so sad to be marginalized like that. I respected that she acknowledged her deficits. I don't think she felt that people, including P, had faith in her ability. That's why she left P's world, where it was "safe", but she was just a pretty girl in a box. She wanted to be more and even though life tried to keep her from her goals, she kept trying to reach them...until she changed focus to her religious beliefs. I didn't follow her career much past the Last Dragon and Action Jackson era until I heard she had died. I felt sad and Googled to see what she'd been up to. The drug use surprised me, but it looked like after she got off drugs she did end up having many years of a satisfying life. I was glad to hear that.

Yuuuuuuuup she was realistic about her talents as an entertainer.

Does anyone remember this film Never Too Young To Die (1986)? Never Too Young To Die Interviews 1986 John Stamos Gene Simmons & Vanity

Goddess4Real said:

I never saw 'Never Too Young To Die' in its entirety.....just a few clips.In one scene,Vanity gets tied up by the bad guys and when they get in her face,she spits on them in the other scene that I recall,Vanity is taking a shower outside,using a water hose while John Stamos watches and loses his mind,lol

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SoulAlive said:

phunkdaddy said:

I agree. While I dug Nasty Girl the Vanity 6 album wasn't anything to write about.

You can only give kudos to the music somewhat thanks to the Purple one.

Her acting was just okay.

As far as her singing career goes...I think she just needed stronger material.Her first album,Wild Animal,was a mess....sterile production,lousy songs and alot of squealing throughout The second album,Skin On Skin showed some improvement,but what Vanity really needed was some heavyweight producers like Jam and Lewwere both is.Look what they were able to do with Janet Jackson (who's not really much of a singer,either).

Man.......them 2 trax on the Action Jackson Sdtk were STRAIGHT FIRE!!!! And they were both produced by Jesse Johnson!!!! so imagine if Vanity had a Project produced by BOTH Jam & Lewis AND Jesse Johnson???? OOOOOOOOOOH WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

woogiebear said:

SoulAlive said:

As far as her singing career goes...I think she just needed stronger material.Her first album,Wild Animal,was a mess....sterile production,lousy songs and alot of squealing throughout The second album,Skin On Skin showed some improvement,but what Vanity really needed was some heavyweight producers like Jam and Lewwere both is.Look what they were able to do with Janet Jackson (who's not really much of a singer,either).

Man.......them 2 trax on the Action Jackson Sdtk were STRAIGHT FIRE!!!! And they were both produced by Jesse Johnson!!!! so imagine if Vanity had a Project produced by BOTH Jam & Lewis AND Jesse Johnson???? OOOOOOOOOOH WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

Exactly!

SoulAlive said:

Goddess4Real said:

And don't forget Jackie Collins Lady Boss (1992) its a trashy classic.

Does anyone remember a 1991 cable-TV movie called 'Memories Of Murder'? Vanity appears in this trashy,murder-drama...she plays a bad girl

I do! I actually liked her movies...I really liked the movie she did "Deadly Illusion" ...but 52 Pickup was probably my fav.

round and round.....see kitty run....when kitty stops.....mousie all done!

luvgirl said:

Goddess4Real said:

Does anyone remember this film Never Too Young To Die (1986)? Never Too Young To Die Interviews 1986 John Stamos Gene Simmons & Vanity

Yes, I tried to buy this movie from Amazon and they didn't have it! I was so disappointed. They had The Last dragon, and Action Jackson which I got, but not this one

It's on YT https://www.youtube.com/w...-RaAfQQHsM

SoulAlive said:

round and round.....see kitty run....when kitty stops.....mousie all done!

Yuuuuuuuup I remember that line and this scene where she had short hair to disguise her appearance to kill Nancy Allen

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Some "mixed" children side with the ones in-power, and hate the other (presumed weaker) heritage at times...I've seen it. Everyone gravititates towards power, presitige, and previledge...

She changed though..

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LBrent said:

I've always liked V within the context of P's world. She was pretty and I liked the way they looked together, but I never found her to be particularly talented although I tried. I wanted to like her. I wanted to miss her when she left P's world. I just couldn't find enough to make me care much about her journey.

+1 :: i liked 52pick-up and last dragon and then she felloff the map until around 2006 or whenever her husband got arrested for double kidnap and murder. she was the most charismatic of all of prince proteges and she was better as an actress than a singer. i'm glad she found peace for the last decades of her life because her childhood was very rough.

morningsong said:

I kind of got a kick out of this movie.

I cannot believe that I sleep on THAT^ one. And it has Michael Ironside in it! I have to find it in my local library.

TonyVanDam said:

morningsong said:

I kind of got a kick out of this movie.

I cannot believe that I sleep on THAT^ one. And it has Michael Ironside in it! I have to find it in my local library.

I remember watching years ago when it was on VHS. There is a copy on YT, but its been dubbed in dutch.

She did an interview on Video Soul 1984 or 1985. She was talking about her gorilla skin coat and she mentioned something to the effect you can't get much blacker than that. This was some time before her comments on Joan Rivers. I don't know if some of you remember but The Joan Rivers Show was cancelled due to low ratings so I doubt if a lot of people heard about the comment and most of Joan's audience didn't even know who Vanity was. Vanity was a star in black America. She was not a mainstream star. So, no, I don't think her comments about her father affected her career at all. It was all about the drugs, the partying and her not being able to handle it or not wanting to handle it as well as many of her other peers.

Enough people heard here remarks about her father that I think it did hurt her with her main audience, Black folks at that time. She was no longer with Prince and she was really on her own. I had to fall back on my fandom at the time. I don't think the remark caused her career to collapse but I don't think it help it much either.

She was blessed to do a movie with Billie Dee Williams, I don't remember the name but I saw it on Bouince TV a few weeks ago.

tish9311 said:

luvgirl said:

tish9311 said:

Enough people heard here remarks about her father that I think it did hurt her with her main audience, Black folks at that time. She was no longer with Prince and she was really on her own. I had to fall back on my fandom at the time. I don't think the remark caused her career to collapse but I don't think it help it much either.

She was blessed to do a movie with Billie Dee Williams, I don't remember the name but I saw it on Bouince TV a few weeks ago.

Really? Wow! I didn't know she did a movie with Billie D!

Deadly Illusion (1987) (after the previews) https://www.youtube.com/w...EWXLUzeyfU

Goddess4Real said:

luvgirl said:

Goddess4Real said:

Deadly Illusion (1987) (after the previews) https://www.youtube.com/w...EWXLUzeyfU

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That's ok, now if only someone would upload the classic Jackie Collins miniseries Lady Boss (1992) on YT I would be a happy gal one of Vanity best performances needs to be seen!