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Thread started 04/17/13 3:42pm

purplethunder3
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Appreciation For Jill Jones

I'm listening to Jill Jones today--the Prince tunes--and it is such a shame that he didn't appreciate a vocal talent like this--compared to most of his protegees. I know threads about this have been posted before...but I feel like I have to give Jill her props. cool

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Reply #1 posted 04/21/13 12:48am

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The 'Jill Jones' album - for me - is easily the best album released on Paisley Park. Not sure if Prince didn't appreciate her as such - she's carried on working with him off and on for years - but more that the whole Warners promotion dept, his time and attention etc were stretched too thin for any of these projects to really get their due. The only Prince associated albums that sold in any quantity were the Sheila E debut and The Time albums really.

You can really hear the influence of Teena Marie on Jill's vocal approach after they worked together so long before she hooked up with Prince. Especially on tracks like Violet Blue + Baby You're A Trip.

The tracks from the 2nd unreleased album are sadly a bit rubbish. Do like her Sakamoto collab 'You Do Me' - that should have been a smash!

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Reply #2 posted 04/22/13 6:01am

OldFriends4Sal
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I wish that 1981-1986 Period was more extensive

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I love Jill JOnes place in Prince's camp, her persona, her vibe, I wish we had more of her

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I've said it before and will say it again, she should have had a Purple Rain album or some song releases and she should have had a Parade album or some song releases

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and it would have been cool 2 have some co-lead songs with Jill and Prince or another protege group.

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Reply #3 posted 04/22/13 6:47am

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Reply #4 posted 04/22/13 10:59am

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There is one Jill/Prince duet I know of - "For Lust" - it was for the unreleased 2nd Jill Paisley Park album. (Not to be confused with "For Love" on the "Jill Jones" album which was virtually a duet too!)

And don't forget, Jill was the "Lady Cab Driver"!

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Reply #5 posted 04/22/13 11:28am

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bleekerstreet77 said:

There is one Jill/Prince duet I know of - "For Lust" - it was for the unreleased 2nd Jill Paisley Park album. (Not to be confused with "For Love" on the "Jill Jones" album which was virtually a duet too!)

And don't forget, Jill was the "Lady Cab Driver"!

Right, 4 Lust

there should be an official "Erotic City/A Love Bizarre' Prince/Jill release

Jill was all over 1999: lover her responses on Automatic, and her piece on the extended part of Kiss

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Reply #6 posted 04/22/13 2:04pm

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I didn't realise Jill was on the Kiss extended version? How did I not know this?! Will pull it out shortly and have a listen. Thanks!

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Reply #7 posted 04/23/13 6:38am

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bleekerstreet77 said:

I didn't realise Jill was on the Kiss extended version? How did I not know this?! Will pull it out shortly and have a listen. Thanks!

lol yes!!! How did u not know this???

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Reply #8 posted 04/23/13 12:09pm

cbarnes3121

jill has a damn good voice i wish prince would bring her back in2 his camp now he has with elisa.

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Reply #9 posted 04/23/13 12:50pm

bleekerstreet7
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Have just revisited Kiss Extended and feel shamed by not realising for over 3 decades of listening to this tune that it was Jill at the end.

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Reply #10 posted 04/23/13 5:52pm

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its obvious that her first album got some exposure because I remember seeing the album poster hanging in dwayne's dorm room on an episode of a different world. I wanted to add that hear jill screaming and hollering on lady cab driver blew my mind at 3 yrs old.

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Reply #11 posted 04/23/13 5:55pm

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she also did background vocals on I guess its all over by mazarati.

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Reply #12 posted 04/23/13 9:28pm

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Oh my God...isnt that Prince on television, Saul? Is he the strangest lookin thing you've eva seen or what?

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As for her album, "Violet Blue" and "For Love" were always my faves. I never dug her version of "With You" and have never seen what the big deal is about "All Day, All Night" (Jill's or Prince's version), but a fantastic album indeed. Oh...and I never, ever, ever get tired of "77 Bleeker Street". Just ridiculously good (should it have been on the album?)

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Reply #13 posted 04/26/13 6:16am

Scotsman1999

I love Jill's album, I got in on vinyl when it was released and played it to death.

To my shame, I never even knew she was on the '1999' album, let alone 'Kiss'!!

She and Taja Sevelle were really talented vocally and it's a shame they didn't get more exposure.

Apart from maybe in his bedroom. lol

Who knows? Anyway, they were streets ahead in singing talent compared to Apples or Vanity, let alone some of the later batch who came along.

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Reply #14 posted 04/26/13 7:01am

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She said she did work on the Time albums, the Family, Mazarati, Sheila E. Vanity 6 & Apollonia 6

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1.) 1999: rel 12.18.1982
Don't worry, I won't hurt you. I only want you to have some fun
colead vocals:Dez Dickerson & Lisa Coleman
background vocals:Jill Jones

6.) Automatic: background vocals-Lisa Coleman & Jill Jones
A promotional music video directed by Bruce Gowers, who previously directed the "1999" video, was produced for the song, which features band mates Lisa Coleman and Jill Jones whipping Prince in a simulated S&M session. The video was not released through conventional outlets but circulates amongst collectors.

8.) Free background vocals: Lisa Coleman, Jill Jones, Vanity & Wendy Melvoin

9.) Lady Cab Driver
lady cab driver: Jill Jones

being a sessions vocalist for Prince she's probably on a lot of outtakes as well.

Prince and related artist recordings with guest appearances by Jill Jones.

Prince

Backing vocals on 1999, Automatic, Free, Lady Cab Driver and Hello (b-side). the Ladder... Jill also sang on Sign O The Times' It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night.

Sheila E

Backing vocals on The Belle Of St Mark.

Apollonia 6

Backing vocals on Oo She She Wa Wa.

The Bangles

Backing vocals on Manic Monday.

Mazarati

Backing vocals on Strawberry Lover and I Guess It's All Over.

The Time

Backing vocals on unspecified tracks.

^This is not a complete list.

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Reply #15 posted 04/26/13 7:01am

OldFriends4Sal
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From Jill's myspace page:

DISCOGRAPHY

1980 Lady T - Teena Marie(Gordy/Motown.)

Backing vocals Produced by Richard Rudolph

Co-produced by Teena Marie

1980 Irons in the Fire Teena Marie (Gordy/Motown.)

Backing vocals

Produced by Teena Marie

1981 It Must Be Magic - Teena Marie (Gordy/Motown)

Backing vocals

Co-wrote The Ballad of Cradle Rob and Me

Produced by Teena Marie

1982 1999 Prince (Warner Bros.)

Featured vocals on 1999 & Lady Cab Driver

Backing vocals

Produced by Prince

1984 Purple Rain Prince & The Revolution (Warner Bros.)

Backing Vocals

Produced by Prince & The Revolution

1984 Apollonia 6 Apollonia 6 (Warner Bros.)

backing vocals

Produced by Apollonia 6 & The Star Company

1984 The Glamorous Life Shella E (Warner Bros.)

Backing vocals on The Belle of St. Mark

1984 Starchild Teena Marie (Gordy/Motown)

Backing vocals

1985 Manic Monday The Bangles (Columbia)

Featured backing vocals (Uncredited)

Produced by David Kahne

1985 Hello (B- Side) Prince (Paisley Park / Warner Bros.,)

Backing vocals

1986 Mazarati Mazarati (Paisley Park/ Warner Bros.)

Backing vocals on Strawberry Lover & I Guess its All Over

1987 JILL JONES - Jill Jones (Paisley Park/Warner Bros.)

Produced by Jill Jones & David Z. (* Co-produced by Prince)(.. Video available)

Mia Bocca* .. b/w 77 Bleeker St

Extended & Dub version Mia Bocca Remixed by Arthur Baker G-Spot b/w Baby

Cries (Ay- Yah) For Love * b/w Baby Youre a Trip

1987 Its Gonna Be A Beautiful Night Prince (Paisley Park/ Warner Bros.)

Co- lead vocals

Produced by Prince

1988 Bright Lights, Big City (Warner Bros.)

Backing Vocals (Uncredited) for Good Love by Prince

Good Love Song included on independently released Crystal Ball by Prince

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Reply #16 posted 04/26/13 2:00pm

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outsideofthebox said:

its obvious that her first album got some exposure because I remember seeing the album poster hanging in dwayne's dorm room on an episode of a different world. I wanted to add that hear jill screaming and hollering on lady cab driver blew my mind at 3 yrs old.

Haha, thought I was the only one who caught that Different World scene. Also recall Brenda on 227 wanting to go see the Sheila E. concert. biggrin

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Reply #17 posted 04/26/13 8:53pm

SoulAlive

I like the song "My Man".I would have chosen that song to be the first single.

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Reply #18 posted 04/27/13 11:30pm

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The first time I heard Jill was on the "Lady T" by Teena Marie. I didn't realise it at the time - the years later when her debut came out I read the credits again and figured it was the same person. Jill co-wrote a funky little number called 'Young Girl In Love' with Teena that will rock your sox off. She must have been 17, 18 yrs old.

If you're familiar with Teena's work you'll recognise a similiarity in Teena and Jill's vocal attack - Jill was clearly very influenced by her no-holds-barred delivery.

Often wondered how her transition from the Teena camp (if I'm not mistaken I think they were related, maybe cousins?) to the Prince one. Didn't Teena and Prince tour at one point in the US?

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Reply #19 posted 04/30/13 3:02am

SoulAlive

OldFriends4Sale said:

I've said it before and will say it again, she should have had a Purple Rain album or some song releases

I agree nod it's such a shame that Jill wasn't able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Imagine if her debut album had been released in late 1984 or early 1985.Songs like "G-Spot","All Day/All Night" and "Mia Bocca" were perfect for that time period.By the time her album was finally released in 1987,those songs were old and didn't stand a chance on pop radio.

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Reply #20 posted 04/30/13 12:25pm

2elijah

Didn't know much about her or her music, during or right after the Purple Rain tours. Only found out about her years later, that she was the girl working at the club in the movie.

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Reply #21 posted 04/30/13 4:28pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:


1984 The Glamorous Life Shella E (Warner Bros.)

Backing vocals on The Belle of St. Mark

She's also on Oliver's House, isn't she? It almost sounds like a co-lead vocal.

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Reply #22 posted 04/30/13 8:46pm

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bleekerstreet77 said:

The first time I heard Jill was on the "Lady T" by Teena Marie. I didn't realise it at the time - the years later when her debut came out I read the credits again and figured it was the same person. Jill co-wrote a funky little number called 'Young Girl In Love' with Teena that will rock your sox off. She must have been 17, 18 yrs old.



If you're familiar with Teena's work you'll recognise a similiarity in Teena and Jill's vocal attack - Jill was clearly very influenced by her no-holds-barred delivery.

Often wondered how her transition from the Teena camp (if I'm not mistaken I think they were related, maybe cousins?) to the Prince one. Didn't Teena and Prince tour at one point in the US?



They are not related. Jill's mom was Teena's first manager and at the start of her career, Teena lived with Jill's family. Jill's stepfather was Fuller Gordy, Berry Gordy's brother.

Jill met Prince on the Dirty Mind Tour, where Teena was the opening act and Jill was singing background for her.
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Reply #23 posted 04/30/13 10:57pm

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MissEmeraldCity said:

bleekerstreet77 said:

The first time I heard Jill was on the "Lady T" by Teena Marie. I didn't realise it at the time - the years later when her debut came out I read the credits again and figured it was the same person. Jill co-wrote a funky little number called 'Young Girl In Love' with Teena that will rock your sox off. She must have been 17, 18 yrs old.

If you're familiar with Teena's work you'll recognise a similiarity in Teena and Jill's vocal attack - Jill was clearly very influenced by her no-holds-barred delivery.

Often wondered how her transition from the Teena camp (if I'm not mistaken I think they were related, maybe cousins?) to the Prince one. Didn't Teena and Prince tour at one point in the US?

They are not related. Jill's mom was Teena's first manager and at the start of her career, Teena lived with Jill's family. Jill's stepfather was Fuller Gordy, Berry Gordy's brother. Jill met Prince on the Dirty Mind Tour, where Teena was the opening act and Jill was singing background for her.

That's interesting - I didn't know Jill was connected to the Gordy family.
Odd that Teena would be opening for Prince at that time - she was a much bigger star than him at that point. I wondered how that happened? Maybe Warners putting a lot of $s into promoting Prince and bought her onto the tour?

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Reply #24 posted 05/01/13 9:13am

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Efan said:

OldFriends4Sale said:


1984 The Glamorous Life Shella E (Warner Bros.)

Backing vocals on The Belle of St. Mark

She's also on Oliver's House, isn't she? It almost sounds like a co-lead vocal.

I don't know, she's on more than I posted.

This is why I wish 'credits' on those albums back then were correct

Jill was on a lot of songs, also reading the Susannah Melvoin interview she also was used as a sessions singer during the PR period. Lisa Coleman said Prince had her sing 'underneath' Apollonias vocals on Take Me With U, Wendy played guitar on some Family tracks etc etc etc Mico was also a sessions guitarist

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Reply #26 posted 05/01/13 9:19am

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Mia Bocca was the first single to be released from Jill Jones' first album Jill Jones, and was released shortly before the album. Mia Bocca was written, produced and largely performed by Prince. The b-side, 77 Bleeker St., was a non-album track featuring Prince as a guest musician. Some versions of the single also contained remixes of Mia Bocca.
The single did not enter the charts except in Italy where it reached #4 (more information needed).
Mia Bocca was initially recorded by Prince in May, 1982.

Tracklist

A Mia Bocca (Extended Version)
Co-producer – Prince Written-By – Jill Jones, Prince
6:04
B1 Mia Bocca (Dub Version)
Co-producer – Prince Written-By – Jill Jones, Prince
5:48
B2 77 Bleeker St. (Extended Version)
Written-By – Jill Jones
4:34
Jill Jones (Front Cover)

Credits

I have only had one lover
Since I was 12 years old
So I don't care how hot U get me
I wouldn't do him cold
But there's somethin' about U, baby
That's got me koo koo
Would U hold it against me
If I said I loved another?
Tu vuole la mia bocca {U want my lips}

CHORUS:
Tu vuole la mia bocca
I love another
Tu vuole la mia bocca
Don't want no other

Something's happenin', I just can't explain it
U're doin' somethin' 2 me
My body's shakin', baby, shake, shake, shakin', baby
Shakin' like a leaf on a tree
I could never be unfaithful
Baby, I could never be
Boy, I got a feelin' that I ain't used 2 feelin'
I gotta do somethin'
Tu vuole la mia bocca

CHORUS

(I love a drama) {repeat in BG)
I'll pretend I'm in a movie
A make believe dream world caprice de la drama {... whimsical drama}
U can be a page in my diary
If U promise not 2 tell my mama

There's somethin' about U, baby
That's got me koo koo
I can't explain what's dancin' in my brain
We gotta do somethin'
Tu vuole la mia bocca

CHORUS

Sono caliente d' amore {I'm hot with love}
Il mio labio sono resbaloso {My lips are boiling hot}
Puoi toccare piano {U can touch softly}
Lo siento ma io voglio un altro {I'm sorry, but I love another one}

I love another! (CHORUS {x3})
I don't want no other! {x2}

Tu vuole la mia bocca
I love another

I'm going koo koo

Sono caliente d' amore
Il mio labio sono resbaloso
Puoi toccare piano
Lo siento ma io voglio un altro

Mia bocca

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Tu vuole la mia bocca

U want my lips


Tu vuole la mia bocca

Tu vuole la mia bocca

Tu vuole la mia bocca

I love a drama

I'll pretend I'm in a movie
A make believe dream world caprice de la drama ... whimsical drama
U can be a page in my diary

Tu vuole la mia bocca

Sono caliente d' amore

I'm hot with love
Il mio labio sono resbaloso

My lips are boiling hot
Puoi toccare piano

U can touch softly
Lo siento ma io voglio un altro

I'm sorry, but I love another one

I love another!

Tu vuole la mia bocca

Sono caliente d' amore
Il mio labio sono resbaloso
Puoi toccare piano
Lo siento ma io voglio un altro

Mia bocca

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Reply #28 posted 05/01/13 9:25am

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1985 Eddie M Jill Jones (correction:Suzie Davis) & Miko Weaver Romance 1600 crew

[Edited 5/2/13 10:54am]

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Reply #29 posted 05/01/13 9:31am

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SoulAlive said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I've said it before and will say it again, she should have had a Purple Rain album or some song releases

I agree nod it's such a shame that Jill wasn't able to take advantage of the Purple Rain hype.Imagine if her debut album had been released in late 1984 or early 1985.Songs like "G-Spot","All Day/All Night" and "Mia Bocca" were perfect for that time period.By the time her album was finally released in 1987,those songs were old and didn't stand a chance on pop radio.

Yep,

G-Spot

All Day All Night (maybe a duet with Prince)

Wednesday (What Will I Do?)

Sugar Walls

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Mia Bocca did sound really good with the Parade era (that should have been the next period she had an album)

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